pvp

[lime light]

Got both breach and spite from weeklys

On both druids

Amazing weeklys

Maybe i get some battlemaster today

😐

[clear pulsar]

Tian you'll see brother

When you realize your biggest kill opportunities are with a big breath + bike combo

And those don't scale with mastery

You'll see the truth in crit vers

[lime light]

Sounds about right

But u dont need to stack crit to crit

👆

[obtuse ice]

Uh

[lime light]

[rigid linden]

hmm

checks out

i think

[clear pulsar]

And you dont need to stack versa to stay alive

But they make it more likely

[lime light]

😐

Idk crit master same shit to me

I just like big bites even if they are not big

[clear pulsar]

big bites

same dam as a no-cd chaos bolt

feral gcd locked at 1s fast paced spec

chaos bolt faster than feral gcd

[lime light]

Ye i know

But that's how it is

80k cb in 2k18

We have 2k20

Now

I would say more like 100k with 1sec cast

But might be wrong

What's your biggest

Cuz our disc got banged once with 289k

IT was pretty unlucky, lock got double proc from vision

In opener

And infernals after

Dont think so he was super stacked

[queen copper]

nice zapper staff i raise u

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that's unforch

[lime light]

Ye big scrapper homie

[queen copper]

this is my other

no OH corruptions =/

kinda like the zapper for some big SS

[clear pulsar]

It's garbage

If anything your surges are weaker

Maybe if you're like a fire mage playing combustion cd reduction talent

So you pop that onto a tempshield and then combust afterwards

But like

For boomie

You're super damp

Losing perma int for a 15s int buff that damages yourself isn't really a good deal

@queen copper

[queen copper]

hhmm yea true for damps

can swap out boots for the corrup

no socket yet tho

nah then i gotta change weap. so many choices =S

can cleanse this :>

[queen copper]

thoughts on set? i like the SV and vers%

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j1mjEtQUwBn5agzZui86gr

but if swapping the weap gotta make changes

42 corrup cos i havent upgraded cloak yet

[clear pulsar]

Nah change wep bro

And use the versatility % boots

[queen copper]

yea to which

[clear pulsar]

To no corrupt 1h + offhand that has vers

I think

Idk ask @vestal citrus

That wep sucks

It's like

7% less damage for a 10% damage buff

But the buff is up 30% of the time

And you take free damage

[rustic heron]

how do you feel about mastery procs for 3s?

lock/ww/resto

most of the time I feel like a scuffed mw anyway and I ve been unlucky with my corruptions, only got 1 piece with % mastery

[wise valley]

Doesnt matter

[rustic heron]

hehe

[wise valley]

Debate the mw comment

Rdruid claps

Way more pressure

[rustic heron]

I understand that they are not as good as masterful but yeah.. Do you know the uptime?

[wise valley]

Nah they dont

[rustic heron]

cool cool, I ll give them a go, it feels sad going into the game with 7 corruption xD

[wise valley]

@rustic heron cr?

[rustic heron]

2480

ish

[wise valley]

Idk dude ive been clapping mw's as rdruid in 2s havent done 3s yet tho

Its so easy to big burst trinkey with cat

[patent cradle]

rdruid's pressure works better in 2s where you hit high damp in like 2 minutes

[clear pulsar]

I hate having eye of corruption

So I'm always around 20, if I have eye it's very small

[rustic heron]

that's why you play with a lock always, if they never go for you, the eye is not an issue xD

[wise valley]

@patent cradle yeah i can feel that

[queen copper]

@vestal citrus what saetup in that sim?

[patent cradle]

i play both mw and rdruid, mw in 3s just does whatever it wants lol

[queen copper]

not fussed on holding the weap just what i had on

[clear pulsar]

Yeah whenever I'm desperate for rating I play resto with a lock

But I'm feral main, so they 80% of the time they go me

[wise valley]

Both sides of rdruid/destro are just fun af rn

Cheese and dumb but fun af

[patent cradle]

gdi destro is busted

[wise valley]

Just play guard with pve neck and TD stacks 🤪🤪

Did cta as guard with my td pieces ffs

[queen copper]

yea this is only 24 corrup

we can add 15 :>

[clear pulsar]

Dont have to

I mean

If you want sure

But one game you'll be at 39 and think it's fine cuz no TFB, next game you'll get stunned on the 39-corr eye that hits you for 40k and you'll die ONLY because of it

[queen copper]

nah dont really have anything available for it

[wise valley]

Last time i played i saw a guy get stunned by nothing??? So i assume he was running the dude from around the corner corruption levels

[queen copper]

lol yea

[patent cradle]

thats a long shot tho

unless you're high enough to get people cheesing spite it generally doesnt matter

[wise valley]

@clear pulsar have u played disc feral recently

[queen copper]

yea going for 2.1

spite is annoying but they usually popping it on heals

[clear pulsar]

I havent

Played much of anything recently

No one to q with

But usually with hpal in 2s

[queen copper]

i vsd 3 different disc/feral in 2s today o.0

havent seen it before or since lol

[wise valley]

It used to be a slapper comp

Someone was streaming it a few days ago

Gave me good feelings

Disc feral was fun as fuck

[clear pulsar]

Yeah for sure

Alliance just super dead queues

[wise valley]

Rip to u

[clear pulsar]

So I queue so rarely, always kinda same people too

[wise valley]

Alliance poppin on na cant relate

[clear pulsar]

[queen copper]

RIP. from ilgynoth just now. rat is taking it to cleanse

[wise valley]

Wow

Might que some games this week

U know how many people dont know cloak can cleanse corruptio

U fookin know how many m8

[rustic heron]

so with R9 mastery proc, spirit of preservation, soul of the forest and all hots, inc shroom I got this

[wise valley]

LMFAI

What was the raw heal?

Nvm

Im dumb

[patent cradle]

nice you almost feel like a hpal 😄

[queen copper]

any point going versa chant/gems?

usually just stack hastes

[obtuse ice]

@wise valley no u hot

[wise valley]

Bruh

Someone do my heroic for the week pls

Ill pay u in half drank faygos

[surreal heron]

Full bottle or no deal

[lime light]

😡

[clear pulsar]

That's bis for pve tho

[lime light]

AYWERGHQWEHYQWEYH

kurwa

3rd trophy

in a row

iam done

[small storm]

https://i.imgur.com/sA10aEv.png does this seem optimal

feral

[lime light]

yes

[obtuse ice]

no

need more versa

[lime light]

day 594

still no gw

[small storm]

welcome to our club

[tiny oar]

I hate the echoing void club :/

[hard radish]

is there a good resource out there for someone that wnats to learn guardian FCing?

like what essences and talents

[obtuse ice]

Guardian :(

[wise valley]

The healing ess

Td corrupt

[forest kite]

for feral u guys like iron jaws 3x or 2x iron 1x jungle?

[stray sigil]

i like 0 ij

[forest kite]

what do u play then

[lime light]

Inting

[stray sigil]

im 3 mi engi helm and mas proc

i said it before traits dont matter that much

[neon storm]

@hard radish I responded to someone last week that asked a similar question. Try to search for it in the PvP channel. If you can’t find it I will respond with some basic info later on.

[hard radish]

thank you!! I was doing some searching earlier just didn't see it. I'll look again

found it, thank you again

our FC for our team ghosted us so we're having to find another FC/DPS 🙂

[neon storm]

That is a basic setup. Tailor it to fit your team’s strengths.

[stray sigil]

@lime light ur inting

[lime light]

[stray sigil]

😡

[lime light]

dont be mad ups is hiring

[stray sigil]

why work i get money for free cuz im student

[lime light]

monkaX

[forest kite]

does waking dream work for feral? makes ysera's gift tick every 4 sec

[stray sigil]

ya it does

just gotta go resto to put it on

[forest kite]

Is it any good for survivability?

[lime light]

not rly

avoid

[stray sigil]

its not good na

[lime light]

it was good at some point

like in the middle of ixpac

ysera was topping healing graphs

so it was worth

[forest kite]

ah ok shame

[thick lava]

What melee dps works well with balance in double dps twos

[queen copper]

rogue

how high u wanna go. managed 1900 on my alt with no comms on first run of it 😫

[obtuse ice]

u bon u monte

[clear pulsar]

Its better than nothing

Like id pick waking dream over UF/blood mist/wild fleshrending

Maybe gushing lac

Inconsequential traits

Same with gory regeneration

[formal wave]

is there no cheesy boom boom balance build where i can pretend to be a diet fire mage?

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar na not over wfr bro if u ever have to go bear aff ur playing with 5 traits

[clear pulsar]

Bro 1k more damage on shreds isn't doing jack

[stray sigil]

its doing more than ur waking as bear aff

lol

[clear pulsar]

What I'm saying is

THere are pieces of gear

And sometimes your choices are garbage

[stray sigil]

im just saying i dont think theres a single situation i would go waking over wfr

[clear pulsar]

You clown

[stray sigil]

😡

toxic ragnaros feral

[clear pulsar]

Like bro

If I drop cephalohide jacket

I'm 100% picking gory regen or waking dream

Over the 2 inconsequential procs that happen twice a game and you never capitalize on cuz they're pointless

[stray sigil]

that chest blows though

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it's rng

You dingus

Same with like venture co, whenever I had that I always had mi + waking dream selected

I think gory regen is more "reliable" just cuz bear aff in a game where you'd want resto aff most of the time is better than the other way around

But sometimes you just roll 2 garbage chest pieces

So you have one of each

I did for all of season 3

Venture co and cephalohide

No fucking way I'm running garbage ass wild fleshrending or bleed procs

[stray sigil]

na im sayin id play a 465 with good traits over that shitty chest

bro this one pvp chest

kinda nutty

mi + mas proc

thats like 50% uptime in pvp

me likey

[clear pulsar]

Last gift? 400 mastery proc?

It's like less than half of tradewinds with the same uptime

[stray sigil]

ya but i dont have another chest

its not bad still

good uptime

i have another one actually but still 465

its mi wfr one

[pallid coral]

smh you're missing out on the EU JF IJ meta

get with the times

blighted tribe pvp shoulders and visions helm (or just use the MI IJ helm

[stray sigil]

i really dont like ij idk

its good i know

[pallid coral]

i preffered JF HOD

[obtuse ice]

Only last sentence

[stray sigil]

but im r word

[pallid coral]

but blizzard killed it

so

[obtuse ice]

was relevent

[pallid coral]

unlucky

[stray sigil]

@obtuse ice 😡

[obtuse ice]

that sounds

pve

🤮

[stray sigil]

take it back u fucking baguette

it was pvec

yes

disgusting

mi masterrace

[clear pulsar]

@pallid coral that is formrage meta

Fyi

[obtuse ice]

mi masterace

[pallid coral]

it is naylo meta

[clear pulsar]

Literally who?

[pallid coral]

EU feral

?

[obtuse ice]

< EU feral

[clear pulsar]

Put some respect on my boy formy's name

[stray sigil]

na

naylo was hotd

not ij tf

[pallid coral]

he's the same eu feral that got all the eu ferals playing hotd

naylo is doing ij tf now as well

[stray sigil]

formy was doing it first

100%

[clear pulsar]

Yeah formy is the innovator brother

[stray sigil]

hes special yes

[obtuse ice]

formy is our dad

[stray sigil]

ur my dad

face is my wife

axtin is my shit son

[obtuse ice]

[clear pulsar]

Fax

Axtin queues some degen shit man

Feral ww, feral fdk

[stray sigil]

tianton is the chad brother

[pallid coral]

feral fdk

is this wod

or

[stray sigil]

na ax

just doesnt give a shit

[clear pulsar]

Bro naylo's armory is guardian @pallid coral

[stray sigil]

atm pretty sure

[clear pulsar]

Literal worst kind of druid

[obtuse ice]

Guardian

[pallid coral]

he plays guardian for the eu pvp guild

[obtuse ice]

[pallid coral]

instability

check his alt

that's in pvp guild

bigfeeder

pvp gear*

[clear pulsar]

Ok he has solid name

I approve

Bro that is formy all day

[stray sigil]

ya formy was being stupid with his build

for months now

no way eu can claim this one

i refuse

[clear pulsar]

Also why do all these fuckwits have versa and vers% corruption

And I keep getting haste procs and tdevs

Holy cock and balls

[stray sigil]

bro fuck that

just go

mastery proc all day

[pallid coral]

idk man naylo's been doing degen shit for seasons

yeah

[stray sigil]

i had a 165k bite last night

[pallid coral]

i love honed mind man

[stray sigil]

on a mage

[pallid coral]

165k

[stray sigil]

dude just

insta died

[pallid coral]

is bigger than anything i've seen

[stray sigil]

from full

i have

3 mi

2 r3 honed

[pallid coral]

yeah ok

LMAO

[stray sigil]

i bite flame dres

dude exploded

[pallid coral]

my record is 133k

idk

i really hate MI

like same as you with IJ i guess

[stray sigil]

i just like it cuz big dam

[pallid coral]

i know that it's good

but fuck it feels awful

[stray sigil]

ij awkward for me

cuz it never procs

[clear pulsar]

MI is bis pve

[stray sigil]

when i need it

[clear pulsar]

Just saying

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar go pve channel noob

[clear pulsar]

@pallid coral MI literally outsims every feral trait ykno?

[obtuse ice]

face more pve than pvp

[stray sigil]

truth

hes like

6/12 mythic

hes a pver

not a pvper

[clear pulsar]

My guild is more

I'm bench warmer

[pallid coral]

MI doesn't outsim every feral trait smh

i hope ur memeing

[clear pulsar]

MI only doesn't outsim the 1st JF you hav

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar tell ur guild

to sell me

maut kill

i will pay

for weapon

tell them brother

hook me up

i want the big dick weapon

[pallid coral]

i mean i set up an apl to use MI optimally

[clear pulsar]

It's tied with blightborne on my gorak tul's, and I have 21% inc crit from all sources at that

[stray sigil]

idc about mythic dres

just want

mythic weap

[pallid coral]

and it was worst than p much all other feral traits

[stray sigil]

guilty is hating

[clear pulsar]

You're not using it optimally

[pallid coral]

like i had it precasting MI 6s on opener

[stray sigil]

on the biggest dam bites

[clear pulsar]

No dude

[pallid coral]

precasting MI 6s before cd's

[clear pulsar]

What lines did you write for it?

[pallid coral]

it was a fucking month ago i don't have it around anymore

but it was set up to use 6s before cd's

lining up with zerk tf blood where possible

preusing it on opener

and ensuring it dumped any charges before end of fight

trait is meme tier

[clear pulsar]

actions.precombat+="/survival_instincts,if=azerite.masterful_instincts.enabled"

actions.cooldowns+="/cancel_buff,name=survival_instincts,if=azerite.masterful_instincts.enabled"```

You fucked up

It literally outsims blightborne if I don't have crit increase

[obtuse ice]

pve

🤮

[pallid coral]

yeah i just ran it on shoulders as an example. The only shoulders it's coming out worthwhile on are pistoleers

where it competes with wild fleshrending

on a profile which only has one wild fleshrending

so at peak negative opportunity cost

idk like MI is really good for bursty things

but it's deffinetly not like a peak trait

there's 0 stat amps on this profile as well to avoid skewing things

i guess i can see if you had multiple mastery stat amps

it might be an optimal dps trait

[clear pulsar]

I have no mastery % at all

I'm not saying I use it all the time

Ofc it's inting on most prog fights

But

IT does outsim eveyr feral trait

Except 1st jungle fury

2nd and 3rd might outsim too if you have crit % or high mastery and low base crit

But it's up there

If it doesn't outsim for you, your lines in the APL are just not optimized

MI does a lot of damage

[pallid coral]

i mean the lines were pretty well optimised. and i'm seeing broadly the same thing with these lines as i did with mine

[clear pulsar]

And in pvp

You can play savage momentum

Even better

I get that you don't like the concept

And I don't think it matters all that much, some other traits are almost as good

[pallid coral]

i mean no nothing to do with the concept. Me and xan toyed with playing MI all the way back in BFD

for p3 jaina

[clear pulsar]

You just said

"I really hate MI"

Are you shitting me?

[pallid coral]

yeah i hate it in pvp

different conversations here

i don't like how it dictates where my damage is in pvp

that's what i don't like about it

[clear pulsar]

Bro

It's what's best about it

It's not random proc like IJ, or giving you crit which might not happen like JF

It's right there, consistent big damage buff

[pallid coral]

ok like i said i acknolwedge that it's really good in pvp

but i prefer having control over where my damage is and it not being driven by when i need to use a defensive

it is deffinetly 100% the best (maybe 2nd best behind IJ that's debatable) pvp trait

[clear pulsar]

This with 18% crit increase total

And 2x t2 tendies

Which obv dont scale with mastery

And gore-splattered with jf + mi also 930 dps higher than raiment of blighted tribe with jf + wfr

On same sim

There's this chinese mad lad getting a few hella parses with 1x mi @pallid coral

I play bad and my sim is more than 10k behind fore's, so no chance I parse well

But it's there

[pallid coral]

well they had to move onto something after vop incarn memes kekw

[clear pulsar]

True

At least this meme actually sims well

Even if not practical

Anyway these days I use more MI in pve than in pvp

Now that I got 3x IJ I'm giving that a big try in arena

So I only have 1x MI

On arena set

[stray sigil]

mi is the truth brother

hgeck ij

[formal wave]

can we talk about shadowlands stuff?

wanted to hear your guys thoughts about the covenant abilities

[clear pulsar]

I dont think anyone will have many thoughts brother

We're like 6 months away from release

It's not final

[rigid linden]

skr skr

[tiny oar]

yep

[clear pulsar]

Formy they tryna steal credit

[quaint mulch]

3 x ironjaws or 2x irongjaws and 1x junglefury?

[rigid linden]

feelsgood

no eye

[stray sigil]

bro cass runs 39 corr in pvp

what a mad las

[rigid linden]

i could do that too

with 12% mastery piece i guess

is gutripper nerfed in pvp

well

is that row of pvp traits

azerite traits*

nerfed in pvp?

yup it is

jesus...

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

So with my 3x jf 2x mi set, i had 3x heed my call

If it procd during bote

It was massive

[stray sigil]

ya but 39 sounds so sketch to me

maybe im being dumb

i asked him he says its fine so idk

[rigid linden]

idk 1 spite

and ur fucked

and ur eye is pretty big

[stray sigil]

thats what im thinking

but dude

i could have 50% mastery proc

maut wep

and gushing

all for the low price of 39 corruption

[clear pulsar]

Then you get kidneyd on eye of corruption and it's ticking at you for 50k per second

[tiny oar]

[stray sigil]

ok but ur a party pooper bro 😢

[queen copper]

HOW TF DO YOU COUNTER MONK COCOON AS BOOMY

oops caps

get cocoon > build burst > cocoon ready again

can clone it but still dont get kill on the off target cos no burst left

such a short cd, infuriating vs ret/monk lol

[stray sigil]

swap off of cocoon ig

prob ooms him a bit more if u do that

but idk boomy is dead bud

[clear pulsar]

Especially 2s

With another dps to rot people over you can probably win more games on mana in 3s

Prev is like top 10 playing ww boomie too

[queen copper]

yea idm, just going for 2.1 but theres some stuff just seemingly near impossible to counter

i think my shammy forgets to heal sometimes idk

just died in 6s to spriest >.>

2050 anyway.. we are close

[tiny oar]

Yea kinda counterintuitive to suggest u just play resto for it unless you know the spec but just the state of boomie atm. Gonna be an uphill battle every game.

U can play really well and other team can fuck up infinitely and it'll still be close

2100 should def be doable tho if u guys are already 2050

[queen copper]

yea just depends wat we vs

like the lock that we jsut vs that can incin <1s

rofl

some comps are jsut insta lose

lock druid

[tiny oar]

Yea if u guys are comfortable swapping specs / got gear for it ele rdruid would probably be a stronger comp overall. But if u just rly like boomie then play what u enjoy

[forest kite]

the quartermasters note turn in looks at ur highest rating right?

Do u need to win a game this week or does last weeks count

[clear pulsar]

You can look at teh quest

And mouseover the reward

To check which rating bracket you're getting atm

@forest kite

[forest kite]

Ye will try that need 1 more note

[queen copper]

nearly beat spacerat before

[clear pulsar]

You can do it before you have all the notes but yeah

[queen copper]

nearly . 4k hp

[clear pulsar]

Was he streaming? You could grab the vod and show some rank 1 boomie like @vestal citrus

Even if it's the enemy's pov, there should be stuff he can find to point out to you

That you can do better

Hi glyph

How you doing my friend?

[lime light]

Vaseline

[forest kite]

would u guys use 480 jungle fury hod over 465 MI?

[rigid linden]

just got this after i helped a mate in key

@stray sigil

u have ben surpassed

GET FUCKEDDD

although i got 0 gushing pieces

😦

[queen copper]

ah here we are https://www.twitch.tv/videos/613628662?t=1h35m13s

[unreal jewel]

aus oof unlucky

[queen copper]

wtf vid only for subs

i dont sub to him

[clear pulsar]

I hate you @rigid linden

I have never in my life got that

Not a single one

@queen copper probably gifted randomly?

[queen copper]

oh true

yea i did

haha

ive never had a sub before lol

[clear pulsar]

Unforch tho I dont think glyph is subbed to anyone

My mans got a wedding to pay

[tiny oar]

Glyph has to be subbed to the mies

I can feel it

[clear pulsar]

I think you might be on to something

Time for another horrific vision

And disappointment

[tiny oar]

🧐

Gl f2f

[clear pulsar]

I mean

The mies is legendary

[tiny oar]

Tru

My twitchie p will go to gorecki til the end of time for helping me learn rdruid tho

His journey to Texas will be the next lord of the rings

G E T F A R M E D

[lime light]

Is IT like s1

Dmg

[clear pulsar]

Yeah when glyph abused fotm boomie

Now he abuses fotm destro

[lime light]

😐

[tiny oar]

[wise valley]

you can clearly see the druid symbol near his name

@clear pulsar cant even read english smfh

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that's all old screenshots tho

From 2018

[wise valley]

frostmourne poppin off in LFG lmao

will i notice any lag if i que with them

[clear pulsar]

If you're party leader it should always put you in NA phases

[wise valley]

think about it face

[obtuse ice]

think about it face

[wise valley]

is frostmourne a good realm

[clear pulsar]

Honestly like if you play wow at double digit latency you don't even deserve to queue pvp

[wise valley]

lotta apes on dalaran too

lotta apes everywhere actually, might go to illidan and try to get into a better pve guild since ive vbeen liking it recently

[clear pulsar]

I'd imagine area 52 is better

Or like Tichondrius

Or Zuljin

[obtuse ice]

NA

[wise valley]

illidan is like the pve hub for horde

[patent cradle]

playing a caster on 160ms is the hard mode

[clear pulsar]

Illidan is Limit territory

[fast shuttle]

I’ve been queuing 3s as a boomy around 1900 with 230-260 ping consistently...can’t wait to get back and feel like a god on low ping lol it honestly doesn’t feel “that” bad since it’s stable but getting kicked when you clearly juked and aren’t casting is AIDS lol

[clear pulsar]

Same goes for melee tbh

Way too often my kick will go on cooldown

And I still get cycloned

By the resto druid who my kick went off on

??????

[patent cradle]

juking around a corner is tough with 150+

i've been clone'd behind a pillar one too many times 😔

[wise valley]

might quit my job today

and be free

like a free elf

[obtuse ice]

And?

no more money?

ggwp

[tiny oar]

Cant spend money if u die from the rona

Big brain

Gl sunshine

[lime light]

NA

[rigid linden]

look im finna be honest

this is maim

0.2% of my damage

every arena

think im going back to JF HOD

seriously

[manic arrow]

Guys, which essences should I use as resto?

C&S major?

In RBG's*

[forest kite]

think im going back to JF HOD
@rigid linden I legit feel better with this too xD

[pallid coral]

@rigid linden IJ isn't really about raw damage though

it's about opportunity cost on go's

with 3 IJ maim is a bigger banger than FB

which means when you do your go you get to start with essentially a bite and a stun in same gcd

it's basically internal bleeding

but bursty

[stray sigil]

ur not gonna have ij proc for every go tho

[forest kite]

I feel like IJ sometimes screws up your stun drs too

[normal folio]

hey guys im new to pvp and playing as resto druid. I'm finding myself lost a bit with what to do in 2s and 3s, is there a place I can learn about matchups in depth?

[dreamy aspen]

do Druids have a Mass Root + Solarbeam macro for casters?

cause i'm running into quite alot of that in bg's and it's so annoying

[fringe hare]

i mean u can easily make one but im p sure most ppl just press the buttons

[dreamy aspen]

no i'm just asking if that's a thing Balance does?

yeah it's like they are focusing someone and use mass root + solarbeam to lock down a destro lock for example

[fringe hare]

i mean like i said you can make a macro but it's not hard to press the buttons together

if u want a macro it'd be just /cast /cast

[dreamy aspen]

likely with the PVP talent to stop dots from easily breaking the root

you type fast

[fringe hare]

i spent all of my high school computer classes on wor dracer

type racer whatever its called

[rigid linden]

@pallid coral the raw damage from ij proc isn't worth it for me at least, just doesn't at all feel valuable

[pallid coral]

idk it's def noticeable when you compare maim go with ij vs not

it's like 80k damage difference on the go

[rigid linden]

Played jungle last night and it really just feels like a 1 in 10 chance of in proc with a go

I wish mine were hitting 80k :/

Even with the vers mastery vuildsx was 54k crit

[pallid coral]

i've been getting 80k non crits

[rigid linden]

How tf

[pallid coral]

https://twitter.com/GuiltyasFeral/status/1258222616030085122

The Jungle Book (@GuiltyasFeral)

When 70% health is the kill threshold https://t.co/Yieh1nXGRG

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78k non crit without TF cloak, or honed mind

[rigid linden]

Nutty I see

[obtuse ice]

With BT

Big IJ

[pallid coral]

nah that's without bt

oh wait

you mean

yeah

[obtuse ice]

Yhea yhea

But that's on a mage so

[pallid coral]

I've got a 103k crit on a monk without tf or honed mind as well

it's a lot worse on plate that's true

Like i think from the eye test i'd want JF MI against plate cleaves probably

[stray sigil]

its just not reliablw

honestly have no problems gibbing people in goes without ij

its prob just overkill with ij

[rigid linden]

I haven't tried it yet in 2s

But 3s it felt hard to pull off

[stray sigil]

it feels better in 2s imo

[rigid linden]

Cause of other situations

[stray sigil]

sometimes it just feels hard to line it up in 3s

[pallid coral]

prob needs a fair bit more coordination in 3s

[stray sigil]

when ur hunter has dmg or w.e

[pallid coral]

because you can't do go's just off your initiative

[stray sigil]

in 2s ur more in control

ya

[pallid coral]

I know boomsurge really likes IJ in 3s against some dh comps tho

because they maim dh on every go iirc

[stray sigil]

boomsurge is so geared

prob doesnt even matter that he plays ij

doesnt boom also play bt most of the time

must have some disgusting maims with his gear and bt

[tulip spindle]

For Balance, what should I be focusing on in PvP? Got my Mythic Claw and that thing does a ton of dmg. What else should I be getting? Stack Vers?

Also have a couple rank 3 tendies

Sitting at 23% vers right now

Too low?

Okay. So Tendie not that great?

What about the PvP Talents? What are the go too ones

And Conflict and Strife major always?

[rigid linden]

O perfect, heres my maims breakdown every 3s game last night

it saved after i alt f4ed >:D

Game 3 - No maim

Game 5 - no maim

[stray sigil]

hard to believe those were all ij procs

[rigid linden]

some werent ofc

i had to use maim to stop bolts/stop movement

cant just wait on my maim procs to use a go

wed fall behind

but what im saying is that

2% damage overall

i could get from just 2-3% vers from HOD

[tiny oar]

Yea heck sabertooth heck ironjaws

[rigid linden]

soon as i kill mythic vex and get the chest im gonna try HOD again

[tiny oar]

HOD ALL THE WAY

[rigid linden]

:D

i mean i was using HOD originially and then i got 2 480 TF IJ's

man had a dream

man was sasd

[obtuse ice]

Don't cry Allen

You should be happy

[rigid linden]

if u have to vs mythic nzoth locks

at 4am

3am*

u wouldnt be happy 😦

[obtuse ice]

Sorry

[rigid linden]

😠

:)

[obtuse ice]

😕

[rigid linden]

a literal nightmare BTW

[obtuse ice]

Will you one day

Record your game and upload them on yt

So we can have some good feral content?

[rigid linden]

ill try remember next time i q

LMAO

[clear pulsar]

Bro my maims are 70k noncrit all the time

[stray sigil]

ok but u suc @clear pulsar

jk i love u

[obtuse ice]

Criss

[rigid linden]

ahhh remember this

WHAT IS THAT U HOLD DRUID

[tiny oar]

You fight with the fury of Ursoc himself! No... I will not be defeated!

Classic one

Fuck double destro players

[fringe hare]

imagine taking 2 1 second cast 250k hits all at once

[split berry]

Is feral any good for 2s or should I try my hand at learnin Balance?

[clear pulsar]

^

[tiny oar]

^

[clear pulsar]

If you're not already a balance main that knows what they're doing somewhat, you should not even try. Even if you are a balance main, you might want to just reroll resto for a much easier time.

[surreal glacier]

Somewhat of a pvp noob here. What corruption do I use as resto in arena? Currently using IS rank 3 and one GW, have a lot to choose from so any suggestions?

[clear pulsar]

Gushing is bis but only if you're actively doing damage as well

I think stars procs from just healing spells as long as you're in combat but it's not as good damage per corruption. Still very solid.

Mastery procs and mastery % increase are probably the best for raw healing

Tentacles are also good like infinite stars

Haste and versatility procs are also solid and more consistent options

Tentacles and stars have caveats

[surreal glacier]

Okay! Maybe I should switch out the IS for one more gushing and a tentacle then. But I have to drop a lot of vers since both my gushing is on rings.

[clear pulsar]

Depends on ilvl too

Gushing tentacle and stars all scale with the item's ilvl

I would take gushing all day whenever possible, if good ilvl

Like at least 455

[surreal glacier]

Have 1 460 and one 475

[clear pulsar]

Resto doesnt need to stack versa

Yeah I'd play both of them

Crit is the only bad stat

[tiny oar]

Anything but crit

[clear pulsar]

Mastery best for healing, haste best for damage, versa is uh versatile :D

[surreal glacier]

Okay! Got a lot to think about! Thanks for the help!

[queen copper]

FFFF

needed 3, got 2

[tiny oar]

F

Didn't think anyone did rbgs anymore

[queen copper]

rbgs best pvp

for boomy lol

[tiny oar]

Ya a druid that can flex boomie heals or tank is big value

[clear pulsar]

RBGs meme af

I'm sure there are some good players at that rating

But majority is so dog

Just getting hardcarried

Sucks cuz I kinda enjoy bgs

[tardy hare]

^

[tiny oar]

That ^

S1 rbgs with all the bois at the start of bfa was good shit tho

Now they all quit :(

[celest pollen]

Hey guys, I was wondering what weapon enchants you use in arenas. I've been using machinist for a while now but top players seem to use Oceanic resto

[tardy hare]

Glyph speakd the truth

[celest pollen]

Sitting on 22% mastery and 22% haste RN if that makes a difference

[obtuse ice]

RbG best pvp

Yikes

[clear pulsar]

Chas has versatile nav on his, metaphors has masterful nav, healingstat has oceanic resto, it kinda doesnt matter @celest pollen

They all amount to very similar amounts of throughput gain on average

Oceanic resto probably a bit more heal but doesnt buff your damage for instance

But versatile nav = possibly 600 extra versa, 7% DR during a stun if you play conflict major for instance

[lime light]

Rbg is pve guilds bracket

They suck pve bosses

And q rbg

So almost the same

Still suck pve bosses in bg

[obtuse ice]

Guardian druid are the pvp boss

[tiny oar]

Daily reminder if you play guardian in arena ur getting coal for Christmas

[lime light]

👆

👉 👍

[obtuse ice]

👆👆

👉

[lime light]

Tbh i would change Guardian to destro/assa/fire mage/dh

Honestly maybe not dh even

[tiny oar]

Yea theres just no actual thinking required for it tbh

Oh we won the first team fight cuz we pressed our buttons good and hard cool we won the bg nice

Smxn was talking about that the other day though for mythic raiding tho like you just understand your damage windows better from raiding so you'll just always do more damage than someone without that level of knowledge, everything else equal

[obtuse ice]

wdym no damage?

[clear pulsar]

Pvers dont do damage either

[obtuse ice]

I mean how can you say pvpers don't do dmg?

[clear pulsar]

It just depends on what threshold you're setting and what players you're looking at

Sure people that get cutting edge in less than a month know how to deal damage

But there are hundreds of cutting edge guilds with people who don't know how to play their specs properly too

[obtuse ice]

"properly" kinda relative I suppose

[tiny oar]

Yea kinda a parse culture thing then not raiding in general

Min maxing every point of damage possible

[tardy hare]

Just do good dmg

Unlike 95% of the people

[tiny oar]

disgusting peasants

[queen copper]

trying out some WW boomy rsham

are there any particular setups with it - have literally never played with ww

[lime light]

Ww most dmg is tod that is on 2 min cd

Outside that they have big dmg every sef

The mirrors

Fists got 100% parry and perma slow

They can spec disarm with 45 sec cd

Reverse harm is an ability that heals a friendly target for 8% hp and deals same dmg as IT healed

They can Play ride the wind that clears slows and remove spite stacks

Ring of pce ofc

Lag sweap aoe stun every 1min

So bascilly they have decent dmg all the time, good peels for boomer, and big burst with sef

Or tod

[patent cradle]

arena players don't really need to know how to min-max damage as much as being good at recognizing go's, especially when the former can hurt the latter
i know i first joined arenas with a pve mindset and got completely run over they don't play the same at all, i'd imagine the reverse isn't an easy transition either

[tardy hare]

I mean going from doing optimal rotation while reducing dmg income and cc to doing optimal rotation with predictable movement is not that hard

Compared to the other way around

[obtuse ice]

Well at 0 rating

If you're just doing pve rotation you win lol

[tardy hare]

These days high rated pvp is just pve rotation with some extra steps anyway

[obtuse ice]

No

Or it has always been that

[tardy hare]

Oh i would parse grey when i got 2.7 first time tho

Was a total nutter cause i just rerolled

Only know how to press styn

Stun

Gg

[summer oasis]

as feral you basically just pve, even at r1 rating

the only difference is you use stuns when you feel like it too

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Not even close to true

In pve you dont sit in bear form half the time

[summer oasis]

you dont as feral either

thats moonkin

[clear pulsar]

I do

[summer oasis]

you really only bear if you can preempt a kidney or something

otherwise running is your best defense

[queen copper]

9 points in 2s

cmon

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I'm dog at that, also latency doesnt help, but I've been trying to be better

About pre-bear kidneys or like wwdk goes

Or jungle goes too

Jungle a bit easier

[obtuse ice]

Well I have done pvp and pve not at a high level tough

but gameplay totally different to me

[queen copper]

DID IT BOYS

FUCKING FINALLY

[wise valley]

Ive faced mages who do like fuckin 7k dps tons of shitters who just hopped on the flavor train and get gang banged cus they small brains cant deduce what to do on kick

Mich and i talked this about for awhile a bit ago @vestal citrus

Ive seen fires who just run on kick like they dont have 3 schools to pick from lmao

But then u face lucky corrupts and geared dh or dk and die to unpredictable dmg

[lime light]

peasants

[obtuse ice]

rude

[lime light]

@vestal citrus watch Mies new tweet please

[lime sparrow]

can feral hunter work in 2s or I'm better of playing resto?

[lime light]

better resto

but its ok till some rating

if u play properly

[lime sparrow]

is there an updated guide for resto/hunter? I mean the general playstyle should be pressure the healer and cc dps?

[lime light]

no

depends vs what u play, but mostly u trapping healer into clone/bash and kill dps

swap clones, go feral affinity for damgur

if u know u cant kill dps in cc / they are tanky or playing with something that can dispel cc from the healer (like dh, destro imp)

u trap dps, get dispel so u can claw/meledick for free on the healer

[lime sparrow]

we tried that couple of times but against unholy/rogue/dh I just die if I stay cat

need to run like hell and bear

so we figured we might cc dps so they have less pressure

but we're still low rating so, need to try more things

[tiny oar]

GOOD JOB @queen copper :D

[jolly meteor]

Can feral/mage hit 2k in 2s

[lime light]

if u have enough free time

yes

[celest pollen]

@clear pulsar Thanks!

[lime light]

yes face is rly nice guy

always helping newbies

🙂

@clear pulsar thanks bro for having u

[clear pulsar]

[obtuse ice]

That's a lie

[lime light]

yes

[stray sigil]

fuk u @clear pulsar

[obtuse ice]

Yhea fuck you @clear pulsar

[thick lava]

I play feral, I got a question on the traits, should I run 2x JF, 2x MI or 1x JF, 3x MI. The rest of my traits are misc ones

[obtuse ice]

1 JF 3 MI

[thick lava]

And is fleshrending any worthwhile in arenas/wpvp

[obtuse ice]

it's ok

[thick lava]

Alright thanks elemond

[torpid fossil]

with feral affinity as resto whats your opener? is it rake, double shred, then rip? or do you sit around for enough energy for another shred

[undone kayak]

Question: I am a 477 guardian druid, I do well in PVP. I want to transition to PVP to get high enough rank in arenas to get a good weekly chest there too (Double my letdown in chests). Im sitting around 1500, and I just don't feel my guardian has the same amount of blammo damage it did in S3 to be able to justify doing 2s as guardian. What is the communities recommendation of doing to possibly break 1800 or even higher? I guess which is the most forgiving and easier learning when it comes to 2s.

[wise valley]

@vestal citrus spits on floor

[quaint mulch]

need some help learning how to set up my gear and play balance for RBGs. would appreciate a pm or some direction since most guides are for arena only i've seen

[fringe mulch]

is guardian viable in arenas

with outlaw rogue

[rigid linden]

These guardian questions are scaring me

More and more everyday

[rich crag]

Honed mind 3 + Appendages 2 or IS 3 for general world fun and games and bgs?

have to give up those 2 in order to use the massive corruption cost of TD 3 lol don't know if its worth it haha

[clear pulsar]

TD is giga nerfed

[rich crag]

sorry my bad

[clear pulsar]

In pvp

[rich crag]

it's not TD

It's infinite stars

[lime light]

Press on

Like the legendarny paladin

[toxic orbit]

Any feral arena streamers?

[lime light]

Cassidy

@clear pulsar

Big streamer

[toxic orbit]

Twitch name?

[clear pulsar]

[toxic orbit]

Please

[clear pulsar]

Cassidy38 brother

He's a legend

Tonyferalmovies

Cass is french, tony is russian

Snupy streams a lot too, speaks english on stream

[toxic orbit]

Ty

[forest kite]

I'd like to get started in boomkin RBG, are the wowhead or icy veins pvp guides any good?

[forest kite]

so 3x AP try to go full single target and slow down dps, cc a healer and go for kill?

Is deep roots good to make sure rootbeam sticks?

[queen copper]

you dont normally need it

[forest kite]

u prefer haste/versa or mastery/versa for bg?

ok ty for all the help

will give it a try

[obtuse ice]

Hi is guardian viable with MM hunter? Asking for a friend 🦹‍♀️ 🦹 🦹‍♂️

😿

[tardy hare]

Hello guys I have question for guardian druid I am trying to make it work in 3s but do u guys think its better to have 1, 2 or 3 of them in my team?

[obtuse ice]

3 man

You'll get some extra bufg

I highly recommend it

[tiny oar]

Yea 5v5 all bears

[forest kite]

is there a macro to targeta friendly player's target? for RBG?

[patent cradle]

there's something going on with the bears this season

first they take over mythic nyathola

now arenas

[small storm]

well last season they popped off

and by they i just mean my friends group who ran with a bear to r1

[queen copper]

@forest kite /assist X

[quaint mulch]

@vestal citrus ty for the advice on playstyle. what corruptions are priority for pvp on balance ? i have stars, versa, haste, all kinds of stuff but too many to choose from

[queen copper]

gushing, surging vita and vers proc is nice

[autumn wind]

Anybody have a macro to put thorns on target of target?

[formal wave]

you guys fans of kul tiran racials?

[queen copper]

GOOD FOR TP

oops caps

but so good for that fc map

one mistake and the falg is gone

[rigid linden]

https://puu.sh/FIgjq/9da1a6ad49.mp4

just play r6 tdev

@guardiaan questions

[stray sigil]

lmfao

[rigid linden]

idiot guardian Nzoth killer 2400 cr formrage 2350 sick game sick systems

[queen copper]

seems fine

[stray sigil]

faced a rmpala 2.4 mmr this rog gushing did 20% of his dmg 🙂

[teal hemlock]

i was playing with a DK from LFG earlier he had 6 gushing wounds and it did 40%

exsdee