pvp

[jolly meteor]

How is feral Druid in pvp

[wise valley]

its good

how are you?

thanks for checking up on us we appreciate it in these dark times

[leaden summit]

Hey guys! Is there any good PVP balance druid streamer/youtuber ? 😄

[wise valley]

@leaden summit corkiy

[leaden summit]

thaaank you! 😄

[dry field]

Tried 34% vers boomkin felt a lot better than normal 8%

[loud portal]

34% vs 8%, that is...a world of difference!

especially if you're taking conflict major, basically never die

[crisp basin]

For Guardian PvP, what corruption should you be aiming to stack?

[stray sigil]

🤮

[pallid coral]

uh

probably versatility

but

y tho

[loud portal]

first off...stop playing guardian

but anyways, stack versa corruptions as always, benefits your dmg and allows you to be even more tanky

[crisp basin]

[tiny oar]

Every time u play guardian in arena a feral druid dies

[crisp basin]

Moonfire

[lime light]

Prolly still td @crisp basin

I faced some random assa that did 100k crits with td

So ye

Its nerfed in pvp by 50% and cant proc faster than every 12 sec

[forest kite]

in rbgs you can stack whatever corruption you want

rez timer is max 30s anyway 😄

[tender pine]

when it comes to feral pvp traits, how much ilvls would u recommend to drop to get bis, and cant rly get more then 1 iron jaw , can get 2 if i remove a 3rd masterful instinct for Wilf fresh but also gain 30 ilvls

[lime light]

Max one tier

Using 465 when u can use 480 garbanzo traits is fine

But 450 is not

[wise valley]

@lime light but how low do you go for sweet sweet corruption 🤔

[lime light]

460 prolly in pvp, sińce all the good corruptions scales with ilvl

[finite spruce]

can someone confirm that using a warlord's trophy on a socketed item won't remove the socket but will improve the ilvl of the thing? 😄

[lime light]

Yes

[pallid coral]

yup

[finite spruce]

ty

[lime light]

same with corruption

[rigid linden]

woot

peep those pvp stats now ROFL

[tardy hare]

:o

[forest kite]

what a a luck

lol

[tiny oar]

what a a fucking luck

[pallid coral]

Man you really like crit

[misty grove]

hey everyone

anyone good with macros in here, ive got something really weird happening with mine

[loud portal]

this is luck

[tardy hare]

[grand hollow]

LOL

[misty grove]

im good now

fixed it

lmao

[stray sigil]

@rigid linden talk about insane stats again king

[spice vine]

any tips how to deal with MW monk and UDK as feral?

Im not sure what/when to focus

[stray sigil]

run at mw

[rigid linden]

I would but I never q into U smh

[stray sigil]

imagine qing in this dog ass season

smfh

[stray sigil]

🤮

i know u joking but still

[rigid linden]

probs second best season to q tbh

notorious was tank trink damp

sinister was the start of PVE trinket/weapon mayhem

dread was fun new n exciting

[wet parrot]

any tips on how to deal with dh as feral?

[rigid linden]

Kill them

unless its dh rdruid

then just spam root them

and hope ur healer can deal with them

[fringe hare]

shadowlands pvp vendors

[rigid linden]

i find its actually easy to kill DH if u just line up stuns and damage correctly

Dread was amazing 😦

then 8.1 hit and everything got damp

Deflated mmr

azerite traits 50%

ugh

so shit

[fringe hare]

maybe i sound dum

but whats dread

wtf they have names

wild

[stray sigil]

@rigid linden u dont mean that

u actually like corruption ?

[rigid linden]

corruption results in games not lasting forever

cxause of third party damage

so ya

i like it

id rather lose to corruption in 1 min then lose to tank trinkets in 10

[stray sigil]

also makes stupid classes even more braindead

not a fan

[patent cradle]

its infuriating when you've been spam killing tentacles all game and they get 1 during stun full

and you just watch

as your entire life flashes before your eyes

[vocal sphinx]

so im currently trying to improve my feral PVP and im just not being able to win consistant games, i am 464 item level with a 465 bike and running mostly feral disc

[tardy hare]

@vestal citrus u didn't have to flex like that

Not even ssn2 glad

Smh

So bad tbh

I wish I went hard in legion

But I only did 2s

F

[tardy hare]

Oof

[tropic schooner]

sinister glad mount

is

big

[pallid coral]

Vindictive bis

[sinful lily]

boys any tips on how not to be truly awful as rdruid in pvp. Hit a wall at 1700 and I just keep getting dominated if my DPS isn't good at peeling

[unique cairn]

get a partner with bis corruptioin becaus corruption is how u win pvp now, its how blizzard breaks game 😛

[zinc ledge]

Are corruptions disappearing in SL?

[sinful lily]

That's disappointing

Also managed to lose streak to 1599 and now not going to get my 5 battlefield furor, what a meme

[zinc ledge]

whats ur ilevel

[sinful lily]

465 equipped

[tardy hare]

If u won 1 above 1600 u still get te reward

[wise valley]

No corrupt in sl

Yeet

[crisp wraith]

anyone have any resources for guardian FCing?

[neon storm]

Trial and Error really. No guides out there. Most Guardian PvP guides are back from when they were a meme in Arena. Build a separate FC set that focuses on Mastery/Ver.I have had some success with a plus Vers corruption set but you really don’t want to run with high corruption. I keep mine under 20 (17 from this week’s upgrade) and I get reach 55% Vers with procs.

Don’t run Protector of the Pack or Den Mother it does nothing for a FC. I usually use Malone’s, frenzy Regen and toughness with the medallion for smoke bombs. Stamp roar can help root break against some mage/lock heavy comps.

Talents I run are brambles. Charge, typhoon sometimes bash, gg, I like surv of the fittest for more defensive uptime and tend and tear.

Anime Major
Minor
Null
Cns
Other - I like warden for the extra heal, others like suppression or crucible.

Learn to kite, learn routes, plan pick ups, be mindful of team and enemy rezzers .

If you face a team that is running DH FC, pay the rogue and a DH to make his life hell. Stacks games benefit you to a point. Don’t outrun your healers. Communication is key.

[pallid coral]

@neon storm why would you play anima major instead of cns major

for double vers in stuns

[tepid finch]

whats the best healers to play with in 2s? feral

[neon storm]

On demand extra heal as well extra Stam. CnS is a solid option as well same as the one that prevents death. Name escapes me at the moment. Have a few beers in me. @pallid coral

[tepid finch]

would assume disc/hpal, but my friend is mw

[pallid coral]

disc or hpal

[surreal heron]

@wise valley faq when

[lime light]

A lot of stuns dont activate the double versa from conflict, so its not rly worth it

[tiny oar]

LOOKING AT U JUNGLE BUG ABUSERS

[lime light]

Not only that

A lot more

@clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

@lime light

Hi

You cute

[lime light]

[obtuse ice]

owo

[lime light]

UwU 🙂

[obtuse ice]

[rigid linden]

omfg

u return

WhaleCum

@clear pulsar NO WAY

HE RETURNS TOO

THE KINGS ARE BACK

TRY MY CRIT BUILD PLS UWUWUWUWUWUWUW

[clear pulsar]

Bro

1st i have no one to play with

[lime light]

imagine playing wow, when some guy just lifted 501kg

[clear pulsar]

2nd

@rigid linden you like?

[rigid linden]

not bad

u need another HOD

[clear pulsar]

Nah not dropping ilvl for it

[clear pulsar]

It's nerfed now too so

I just need some % corruption

[clear pulsar]

Thats a juicy ring

But hod nerfed in pvp so ur stats arent that big in arena

Like 2% less crit, 1.5% less vers, 4% less mastery

[rigid linden]

well next week

i use a warlords on JF IJ shoulders

and i buy blighted chest

ill have 3x JF IJ

🙂

[obtuse ice]

[rigid linden]

@obtuse ice its been lonely without u guys

[lime light]

playing 2xJF 1xmi 3x IJ for weeks 🐱

[obtuse ice]

@rigid linden I missed you too daddy formy

[rigid linden]

@lime light i havnt been able to get any JF+ IJ pieces 😦

saving up

[lime light]

monkaX

[obtuse ice]

are you being serious with crit build?

[lime light]

belive me or not, but i rolled this head

3x times in a row

[rigid linden]

@obtuse ice I'll try and get some gameplay for you and see for yourself the goods and bars of crit feral in PvP

[obtuse ice]

pls do

[wise valley]

who @ me

[lime light]

any Popogas in the chat?

[wise valley]

@lime light what trinket is best for feral/resto

[lime light]

bike / drest / badge feral

resto claw

[wise valley]

kinda want maledict

[lime light]

and vodoo from atal

[real crown]

carry me in vision thanks!

[quaint mulch]

How well does feral do in place of a sin rogue for rbg comps?
i've personally been pulling it off but im wondering if there are any hard drawbacks to doing it

[pallid coral]

uh no sap no blind no vanish no cloak

you can't cap flags as well

[clear pulsar]

It doesn't replace a rogue

But it's a good partner for one to hit a base with for instance

"Good" you're not gonna find ferals almost anywhere, none of the high rbg teams have feral mains these days, but on occasion some have had a boomie swap to feral in some fc map!?

[rigid linden]

@obtuse ice i had some vods from when i queued jungle but they got auto deleted 😦

feelsfknbad

@clear pulsar these are the stats in arena

still alright

[stray sigil]

no mastery

DISGUSTIGN

this is the only way

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I just have a bit more haste and less versa @rigid linden

But still have 2x mi

WHich is 1700 mastery

Or 47%

Turns up to about 30% damage gain

[rigid linden]

fuji i am dissapointed u arent 2.4 already

with ur gear

i just tried to make a vers mastery set

im at like 18% vers 78% mastery

i legit just dont have the gear to have a good set

only my crit vers gear is good

LOL

Legit jealous of how good your stats are

[stray sigil]

bro i hate my life playing this game now

whenever i q into locks or dh

my mental goes boom

its over

[rigid linden]

gimme ur gear then

ill gladly slay them

:D

[clear pulsar]

It's just % mastery corruptions

[stray sigil]

na just 1 12%

[clear pulsar]

What's wrong with 18v 78m?

This is the best I can do without badge or azerokk

[stray sigil]

i wish i had azerokks

id be at like 96% mas

[clear pulsar]

Azerokk is garbage

Uptime is sooooooo low

[rigid linden]

this is best i can get

i have haste crit gushing feet so if i put them on im at like 15 vers and 74% mastery

[clear pulsar]

Yeah we're lucky stats dont matter

Just put on gushing

And all the best corruption shit

That's the gearing thought process for sure

[rigid linden]

this is my pvp set

its all on crit vers pieces

so ofc id use these

[stray sigil]

man i really hate eye sometimes tho

[rigid linden]

has only fucked me 1 in 40 games

imma say worrrth

[clear pulsar]

Mine

[stray sigil]

its just annoying to desl with

[clear pulsar]

Is literally just this

Unless I'm playing crit stuff

[stray sigil]

i have 1 gushing 1 vers % 1 mas% and pve wep

cant get anything ever

[rigid linden]

maybe 1 day ill get a mythic versatile/masterful shadhar ring

[clear pulsar]

My gushing is low ilvl

Never got versatile or masterful at all

None

[stray sigil]

maybe next week

[rigid linden]

gonna get a 470 glimpse of clarity

crit haste

[clear pulsar]

My crits

It's good too cuz I can use this one set for all content

Raid m+ pvp everything

[rigid linden]

i logged into classic

help me god

[surreal heron]

you made that decision on your own, help yourself

[clear pulsar]

Bro I'm so close to just giving in and healing some dh or dk or destro for cap

Can never find a dece healer on ally lfg

[stray sigil]

ill heal u bro @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

You lie to me

[olive glade]

whats the best 3rd minor essence for ferals? BOTD major / Lucid, strife minor seem to be the go to already.

[clear pulsar]

Try to trick me with deceit

Formless void, clf, concentrated flame, anything really

Some people like ripple in space

[stray sigil]

i switch between vision and clf as 3rd

@clear pulsar id never deceive u bro

[olive glade]

ye i kinda like vision vs double dps for extra vers

[stray sigil]

vision is solid vs everything

1.2ish % vers and cd reduc

its pretty good

[clear pulsar]

Of fucking course

I go to heal

And first game is assa disc

Fuck off

[stray sigil]

what r u qin brother

just q rdru destro and never lose LUL

[clear pulsar]

Found a lfg dk

He's kinda trash

I did 1.8m damage and my mind flay didnt proc once the entire game

Not a single time

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar so toxic brother

[clear pulsar]

I mean

5 kicks in 5 minutes

Top damage was echoing void

I'm trash too but I want to be carried

Not have to outdamage the disc priest to win

@vestal citrus why is prev queueing boomie ww hpal and you're sitting there hiding behind fotm-rerolls?

No no no that's not the answer bro

Dud he has 33% base vers LOL

And t3 surging

Have you been following shadowlands?

Like the changes

Do you have an opinion

If it looks ok, if it looks sketch

8 min game gorecki is still at 60% mana

But they just cant win

Yeah boomie getting attention every week pmuch

In the alpha

Tfw ferals literally only want 1 thing

And blizz ignores

[stray sigil]

what is it that we want mr @clear pulsar

[clear pulsar]

Sabertooth GONE EXTERMINATED VANISHED DESTROYED

[stray sigil]

no we want bleed dmg

above all

😡

[clear pulsar]

If sabertooth was gone and feral got a flat 10% buff to compensate, bleeds would be the dam

[stray sigil]

no

gimme mop rip back

[lime light]

If i bleed someone have to die 😡

[tiny oar]

[obtuse marsh]

I know its garbage for pve but how about ineffable truth for pvp? Kinda cheap and if it gives me more barks, swiftmends etc, that feels pretty nice

[split timber]

any good for pvp ?

[obtuse ice]

that's not what you wanna wear

tbh

[split timber]

why not?

for wpvp

[queen copper]

Wait u can top yourself as boomy o.0

I guess in wpvp

[obtuse ice]

who's doing wpvp

[lime light]

This trinket is 50 or 75% in pvp

[teal hemlock]

what essences and talents should i play as resto/destro in 2s against like warrior comps? i legit cant outheal the single target healing on the lock warriors doin 30k+++ DPS

[jagged bluff]

i would play standard talents with feral aff and spring blossoms, pvp talents focused growth, thorns and overgrowth; nourish instead of overgrowth if u really cant keep up otherwise. essences crucible major, vitality, preservation and life-binder

vitality major seems like a hard overkill for me tho xd

[formal wave]

any new tech?

https://clips.twitch.tv/RacyCooperativePterodactylRickroll

good times

[obtuse ice]

seems like broken

more than good times

[formal wave]

fire mage and destro locks can do this today

[clear pulsar]

Yeah and they're broken

And it's not a good time for anyone facing them

[split timber]

How tanking trinkets scale in wporld pvp , bgs and arenas? For example I got thee bandages tanking trinket from kings rest. Will it have in all those contents the same absorb?

[tardy hare]

biggest one has biggest

[clear pulsar]

Most of them are nerfed in ppv

Pvp

But if you had the absorb up before engaging in pvp, it'll stay unnerfed until next use

[split timber]

aha

so I can then use it before attacking someone right?

[lime light]

the problem with destro and assa rogues is that, u cant play

u getting spam root fear coil

or kidney on dr

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but 8.0 dh boomie also didn't let you play

Cuz they 2-shot you out of the gate

[lime light]

not many ppl knew it

[acoustic fulcrum]

For Ferals who run Sabretooth, why do you immediately put up a 1 or 2 combo points Rip instead of 5 combo points?

[clear pulsar]

Cuz of sabertooth

[acoustic fulcrum]

I know sabretooth increases duration but what about damage

Or does damage not change between combo point usages

Like 1 combo point Rip does the same amount as a 5 combo point Rip

[clear pulsar]

Is same damage

Bring out calculator

[acoustic fulcrum]

Ohhhhh

[clear pulsar]

21478 * 3 = 64434

[acoustic fulcrum]

Supermassive derp on my part

[clear pulsar]

Yeah it changed in 8.1

[lime light]

hope they change it back

[warm niche]

with engi helm you probably dont

[autumn wind]

With an opener for Feral, would you rather Rake, Rip, FF, Bite or set up for a quick double bite?

[obtuse ice]

quick refetsh rip

[shy light]

i have a question about acquiring Conflict and Strife, would this be the appropriate place for it ?

[fringe hare]

sure

[obtuse ice]

Get pvp chest every week

And gg

[quaint mulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8TgPVXsCpe4QvMWMANnwa2

am i optimizing right for pvp here? stacking vers/mast , ironjaw x3 . vers corruptions etc.

sadly dont have gushing on anything yet

but i have rank 3 stars im just not using because too much corrupt

maim crits are hitting over 200k

[clear pulsar]

Yeah that's good direction to go

Vers mastery, ij + mi helm and shoulder

Just need higher ilvl stuff

Weapon ilvl matters a lot

Azerite too

[stray sigil]

get ur essences up in order too

[fringe hare]

i would use cof 3 over breath 2

[quaint mulch]

does breath 3 really do that much more?

grinding lucid dream rn as well

like a week left til rank 3

[rigid linden]

WE DID IT

all i ever wanted since cata

[lime light]

How much

Gratz boi

[rigid linden]

200k

jubei

xferd for it

[lime light]

Lol

Nice

Now go nelf slut mog + this

[rigid linden]

err

say what?

[obtuse ice]

All I ever wanted

What to see you smiling

:)

[pallid coral]

@fringe hare @quaint mulch breath 2 is better than cof 3

as a major

[lime light]

Tbh cof is pretty decent vs RMX if u have mamut + bike

And like 20% + versa

Cuz rogue stun is almost the only one that activates conflict KEKW

[obtuse ice]

Tbh cns is must have against some matchup

Rmx or double melee cleave

[clear pulsar]

Dont be pussy

[pallid coral]

@lime light that's cns not cof

[lime light]

Ahh iam blind

True

[shy light]

am i able to get some of the part 3 of Conflict in week one assuming i meet the criteria of both rank 1 and two in the same week?

[fringe hare]

I disagree but you do you

[pallid coral]

sure, but you can look back at the start of the season when people didn't have breath 3 and people were running breath 1 and breath 2 over cof

breath 2 is the >= the damage of a 3 stack crucible

• the execute threshold means you get to cast more

the only thing you lose is the execute

which is NICE

against warlocks and sometimes hunters and sometimes discs

but it's not exactly the reason you run breath

[eager pawn]

so uh

tldr on pvp essences atm?

[stray sigil]

breat major

vs everything but rmx

cns lucid vision minor

pretty much

[lime light]

as minor u can also get ripple/vission

formless void to protect purge sometimes too

[stray sigil]

or condensed

but vision minor is very solid

[quaint mulch]

should i cleanse this , stats are BiS for my feral but idk if leaving stars on it is worth

for pvp

[clear pulsar]

Do you have other better corruption?

[quaint mulch]

let me link my current loadout rq

[clear pulsar]

At least wait until tomorrow to see if you get maybe another vers mastery ring so you can keep that one maybe

[quaint mulch]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/enUcBKsWgshD9VZE2UPhPK

i have rank 3 stars on a 470 ring already thats better, with haste mastery

so i dont think i really care about keeping it on this ring

just wanted 2nd opinion before i cleanse it for good

[clear pulsar]

Yeah probably cleanse it then

Cuz you wont use both in pve anyway

And you dont have much resistance to be using much corruption in pvp either

[quaint mulch]

yea sadly not yet i dont

working on that

for trinkets also, i have void titanshard with the vers, the azerokk heart with mastery. glad's safeguard , glad's maledict. not sure which combo of these to use

[clear pulsar]

I'd use the maledict and safeguard most of the time. Void titanshard is pretty weak, and azerokk's proc rate is super low too

[quaint mulch]

they give vers/mastery was only reason i thought. alot of it

[clear pulsar]

600 agi is more damage than 220 mastery

[small storm]

noxxic

[surreal heron]

what

[small storm]

the ss above

[surreal heron]

oh lmao, pawn and noxxic

nice

[small storm]

unstoppable tbh

[quaint mulch]

how relevant is pawn/noxxic for pvp tho

[clear pulsar]

Not

Probably about as relevant as for pve

[obtuse ice]

Pawn is bad??

[burnt moss]

@quaint mulch if you can try to play emblem or any versa + primary stat proc you can find

anything with passive vers + proc is almost better than emblem unless you are the target for every go, and both are way way better than safeguard

[clear pulsar]

Yeah emblem is better than safeguard, but homeboy didnt mention one so

If you're trying to farm trinkets, just farm mechagon junkyard for the bike

And drestagath

[quaint mulch]

i am farming both just trying to get by without atm

[lime light]

Pawn is horrible, i use IT only to see the ilvl upgrade when i mouseover OMEGA

[forest kite]

is bike better than alch trinket? drest bike unless you need more survivability?

[lime light]

bike always better

[forest kite]

pray for 475

[quaint mulch]

is it worth setting loot spec to guardian before reset chests since guard stats are feral pvp same

[lime light]

no

[clear pulsar]

Bro

Everybody drops loot with every stat

And guardian stats aren't versa mastery

[quaint mulch]

thats their stat prio. nevermind tho im dumb

[lime light]

yes

[clear pulsar]

No

Mastery is last

For guardian

[quaint mulch]

feral pvp essences, i know it was asked sort of earlier. but typically breath/conflict&strife/flame ... lucid dreams for last one ? or i heard something about visions instead

[pallid coral]

breath major, Cns minor, Lucid minor, CLF Minor

[quaint mulch]

condensed life force, and conflict strife ?

sry dont know abreviations just guessing

[obtuse ice]

yes and yes

but vision R3 better then CLF

[lime light]

there is no better, ripple / clf / vision / formless

all of them are good as 3rd

[obtuse ice]

Most of the time vision is better

[lime light]

why

[clear pulsar]

Most of the time it doesnt matter

[obtuse ice]

Flat versa buff

[clear pulsar]

I doubt 100 vers is better than 700 agi + 100 haste

And berserk is worthless

[lime light]

there is legit no better

just pick any from those

and forget about it

[obtuse ice]

700 agi + 100 haste ?

do you have it always?

[lime light]

yes

[clear pulsar]

Pretty much

With breath major you have super high uptime on it

[obtuse ice]

%age pls

[clear pulsar]

Basically 100% if your healer plays crucible

[lime light]

u have 15 sec cd on reaping if u dont fuck up

or someone in your team dont fucked up also

or when disc plays crucible

ripple is 50-60% uptime too

5% base move speed

+890 agility

[clear pulsar]

Yeah I dont have ripple tho

[obtuse ice]

what's the point having 890 agi if you're dead tho

[lime light]

u gonna surivive cuz of 0.5% dmg reduction

good one homie

or u pop berserker faster

and they gonna pillar

[obtuse ice]

And berserker heals you 5%

and you should play 12% versa corruptiion buff too

[lime light]

its 2.5% in pvp

:/

[clear pulsar]

Bro stop

Vision minor isn't bis

[lime light]

and ripple agi buff gives u around 3k~~ healing on reg

[clear pulsar]

13k heal when you pop berserk

And 0.5% damage reduction

[lime light]

[pallid coral]

@obtuse ice no it's not

clf is deffinetly better than vision minor

like

way better

[lime light]

about the same

[pallid coral]

berserk sucks

[obtuse ice]

you don't need damage

[pallid coral]

if you're running

vision

for 100 vers

for 0.5%

damage reduction

[obtuse ice]

corruption wounds doing all the job

[pallid coral]

you are TROLLING

[obtuse ice]

but yhea true everything is about all the same

[forest kite]

do u guys run c&s major against rogues?

I was wondering if it was worth since i have a lot of vers and +%vers

[lime light]

Maybe u tell US what u play

😐

[obtuse ice]

YES

c&s major + vision

[quaint mulch]

fun question even though i know it's not ideal. but how do i get the most out of feral possible in bgs

[eager pawn]

in random bgs either delete undergeared people or sneak caps

[quaint mulch]

i've been good at 1v1'ing whoever sits base and capping most of the time

is there any difference in gear/talent/essence setup u want in rbgs compared to arenas tho

[tardy hare]

Nah

[quaint mulch]

being an ex shadow priest main i miss the days of topping bg damage. just wondering if it's possible to do that on feral . lol

very fair point

spriest was more fun in legion when it was padding and u literally could kill a whole team

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar formless is purgable tho kinda bad

and its like 500ish agility in pvp too not 700

[lime light]

u sometimes wanna use it as purge protection

crucicble might be a bit better th

o

but more rng

[slate nimbus]

u guys don't understand, vision is a way

it's bis according to cassidy's guide even

KappaClaus

(imagine to have real 3m burst cd instead of abillity that u can delete for extra bind playing pvp)

[stray sigil]

idk using a 600 agi proc as dispell protection seem kinda troll

[slate nimbus]

agi essences when it's shittiest stat

[lime light]

so easy to find your armory after u change nick, cuz of lvl neck @slate nimbus

[forest kite]

u use incarn with perfection?

[lime light]

i did a little bit, meming

got 2.1k with other druid playing vision incarn

like in 2nd week

but srlsy

[forest kite]

major then I guess

[lime light]

not rly

incarn isnt that great

i mean, if it was baseline

super pog

[forest kite]

I guess maybe the stealth saves u sometimes

[lime light]

but playing without soul

is big monkaS

[forest kite]

u also lose damage in big bites

which suckz

[lime light]

its only 5%

not a big deal

in this case

[forest kite]

I'm gonna try it out for lulz I play low rating with my new feral anyway

[slate nimbus]

@lime light not even in top100 😦

[small storm]

i am really derpy when it comes to deciding my feral azerite for arena

I run maut helm, gorak tuls, and vex chest for pve with 2 jf 2 wfr 1 hod 1 blightborne

when i go pvp i have 3x mi 2x ij 1x jf but 2 pieces are 450 compared to typical 480s

am i better off using 480 with weird traits or better traits with lower azerite

[obtuse ice]

3IJ 2MF 1GL

[small storm]

is 3 IJ a must?

i can roll 2 vendor slots and need upgrade on helm and chest

i think i can get by with jf hod helm from maut

[lime light]

no

basiclly any mix of

MI JF

+2/3 IJ if u want

if u have jf + hearth pve disugsting pices

its fine too

not a big deal

[clear pulsar]

It doesnt even matter

Like

Ofc there are good and bad traits

But

JF if ine

1x gushing is fine

Mastery procs are fine

BF precision is fine

[small storm]

so azerite level is more valuable anyway

@charred kiln 4Head

[obtuse ice]

Well when IJ crit for 70k

You're happy having it

[small storm]

is 450 ij gonna do that

[lime light]

dont play 450 azerite

LOL

just play 480

even with shit

traits

[clear pulsar]

And when you bite 7 times in a row without IJ proc

You'll be sad having it @obtuse ice

It's not the be all end all

And you don't need it to win games

[obtuse ice]

You need to be good to win

[clear pulsar]

It's just easy to see "hey maim did big dam"

[obtuse ice]

Just like saying this for bike a drest owo

[clear pulsar]

Yeah

And cassidy still play badge insignia

And is highest feral in the world

So you don't need bike drest if you just

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar he plays bike now but he has no dres on his main

[clear pulsar]

I know

I'm sure he would choose to run drest in some games if he had it 475

But he's still highest feral

ANd he was highest feral without bike

Optimizing his gear is very minimal part of it

Cuz if you do 80k bite into 80k frenzy into 80k bite and get a third bite in during badge, then the extra agility you get from badge will make all that do 90k more

Which is the damage a drest would have done

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar log in

i need ur help

[clear pulsar]

garbage game

Garbage week

Scrapped 3 items

[stray sigil]

log in i need ur help real quick

[clear pulsar]

Pvp pve and 5mask

[stray sigil]

idk what to do

[clear pulsar]

I'm cooking lunch

[stray sigil]

ok ima try to screenshot

then

u think those are worth using ?

[obtuse ice]

He kinda try harded for gear lol

[stray sigil]

i have 475 wrathion pants

[obtuse ice]

Cassidy have been playing a lot to get a gear so it matters a lol

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar help me my brazilian brother

vs these

with both im sitting 19 corruption

can maybe squeeze in a 12% mas too

but id be at 39 corruption

sounds a bit sketchy

[primal fractal]

As resto, would you rather a 467 set with ~20% haste/mast, or a 474 set with ~12% haste/mast? Diff is like 35k hp and 700 int. 474 set has 25% crit.

[clear pulsar]

@stray sigil wait what are you removing to use the mastery proc?

If you're at 19 with both

[stray sigil]

my vers proc but i can use it with the pants

but im at 39

my mas 12% rather

myb

lol

[primal fractal]

The mastery set seems to be smoother strong healing, but the crit set procs 300k regrowths

So I dunno

[stray sigil]

if i use the boots

only give me another 3% mas

for sitting at 39 corruptiuon

thats why i removed them

dont think its worth it

[clear pulsar]

Hm

Mastery proc is more dam than versa proc

I think I'd use the vers proc tho

And vers mastery pants

[stray sigil]

i can use both

[clear pulsar]

@primal fractal 12% haste and 12% mastery vs 20% haste and 20% mastery?

[stray sigil]

vers proc and mas proc

but i lose

gushing

worth ?

only 1 gushing

[clear pulsar]

No way

Gushing too big

[primal fractal]

@clear pulsar right. With those other trade offs of Stam and int.

[clear pulsar]

You're obviously changing a lot more than just those stats tho

Your versa is changing, your crit is changing, and your corruptions/trinkets may be changing as well

Soooo

[stray sigil]

1 guyshing doesnt seem gamebreaking

[obtuse ice]

But 6

[clear pulsar]

Then why are we having this conversation?

Ofc none of that shit is gamebreaking

[stray sigil]

im just rly

[clear pulsar]

Just play whatever you'll find the same results pmuch

[stray sigil]

tryuing to play these pants i think

uptime seem pretty high

[clear pulsar]

I got some pants for you to play

[primal fractal]

@clear pulsar here’s the max ilvl set https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/stormrage/streamm

Jus don’t know if the hp and int loss is worth gaining mast and haste

[clear pulsar]

Leech is clown

Too much crit

[stray sigil]

ok hear me out face

i can get rid

of my 9%vers

and play

gushing mas proc and vers proc

THOUGHTS

[clear pulsar]

How much corruption tho

[stray sigil]

well i have 2 vers procs

[clear pulsar]

So if that's t3 mastery and t3 versa procs

[stray sigil]

1 20

and 1 35

so either

39 corruption

or

25

but i lose like

4% vers base

for that

ya not worth my proc is 5%

[clear pulsar]

What ilvl is your gushing?

[stray sigil]

465

bis stats on it

and socket

[clear pulsar]

Bro that's locked in

For sure

[stray sigil]

25% mas proc though

thats huge

[clear pulsar]

It's not a 25% dmg buff tho

[stray sigil]

i mean sure but

its like having

3 mi

almost

on a high uptime

[clear pulsar]

3x mi is 2500 mastery bro

The mastery proc is what, 900?

Not even close

[stray sigil]

its not 2500 in pvp

its like

1300 in pvp

if u have 3

like 1350 ya

[clear pulsar]

Hm true

Pvp nerf

[stray sigil]

ya its 50%

[clear pulsar]

So it's around a 15% buff

[stray sigil]

so its very close to 3 mi

[clear pulsar]

If you have base like 65, 70 mastery

[stray sigil]

na its more than 15

[clear pulsar]

No

It's basic math

[stray sigil]

its

37.5 %

in pvp

[clear pulsar]

I'm saying

Your mastery proc

[stray sigil]

its 25%

i have 60% mas right now though

[clear pulsar]

If you have 65% base, getting 25% more will give you a 15% increase

190/165

Very simple math fuji

So with maut and gushing locked in

[stray sigil]

ya

[clear pulsar]

You can still fit in 70 corruption before thing from beyond

Tho personally I don't like being over 30, the eye and the slow are too big

[stray sigil]

dude im talking pvp

oh

nvm

ya i get what u mean

i dont like playing with eye

[clear pulsar]

I think I'd just take vers proc and vers % honestly

[stray sigil]

maybe i make 2 sets

the vers proc vs shit like rogue mage

cuz like in 2s

i feel like vers proc

is kinda worthless

when all u do is run at healers

every game so u dont proc it

[clear pulsar]

Hpal and disc hit you all the time

Maybe like play a few game with both and check uptime

I think vers proc has better uptime if there's a dot on you all the time

[primal fractal]

set 1

[stray sigil]

ya well going hpal

is pretty hard in general

id play vers proc vs that shit i think

[primal fractal]

set 2, only corruption is mast 12%

[clear pulsar]

My set is both t3 mastery and t3 versa proc

But I never looked at uptime

[stray sigil]

i know its not pvp

but i was hitting dummy

and mas was procing

like crazy

[clear pulsar]

How does your 2nd set have 12% mastery corruption and less mastery than your 1st set? @primal fractal

Also just going off the stats, the 2nd pic you linked is definitely better

Mastery proc dont buff bike + breath @stray sigil

[primal fractal]

just itemization

they both use the 12%

[clear pulsar]

Idk just put on the highest ilvl stuff that doesn't have crit

Unless good corruption on item with crit

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar but biggest maims bro

[primal fractal]

ok maybe this, r3 mind flay and 12% mast

higher vers

[clear pulsar]

Yeah sounds good

[stray sigil]

@clear pulsar bike is better than dres right

[primal fractal]

uhhhhhh how is this m13 a 470 and my 15 is a 465

[clear pulsar]

One is from weekly cache

The other is from end of dungeon

[clear pulsar]

Everyone streaming rbgs

[lime light]

@stray sigil whats the addon

brother

with the %

on items?

[small storm]

i run 22 corrupt but can go to 37

with a masterful 2 ring (lose some vers)

[stray sigil]

uh

@lime light advancedtooltip

i believe

[lime light]

thx

@small storm should be fine

just dont play 37 vs rogue teams

the addon with tooltips super lit

[stray sigil]

ya

its really nice

[lime light]

it even says your proc after haste

[stray sigil]

works for mas proc

and vers proc too

[lime light]

yeah

soo good

[rain rune]

I wanna get into pvp. Any tips in general on what should I learn/watch/read ?
I would like to play resto for 3v3 and such

Have only done "casual" pvp, like bgs and skirmishes

[topaz drum]

youtube is a good ally @rain rune , mmarkers on twitch plays resto druid pvp maybe you could learn something from him.

[plucky basin]

haha havent seen a draw in a long time

[verbal needle]

If you fall below 1800 do you lose access to the 475 azerite warlord trophy

[rigid linden]

i think so

end of week chest or quartermaster hand in?

[verbal needle]

The turn in

I’m not v good so I’ll just hide at 1802 for a month lol

[loud portal]

iirc you still have to win a match at 1.8 or higher to qualify for the weekly chest

and then you can cap via other methods

[frank minnow]

sorry if this is wrong area but it's for pvp.. can someone look at this macro thats good with them and tell me how to correct it so the Reaping Flames works... #showtooltip Rake
/cast Rake
/use Wraps of Electrostatic Potential
/use Reaping Flames(Azerite Essence)

[queen copper]

zzzz so much skills

how do u beat DHs in 2s. rsham boomy vs dh/healer

2k+

[stray sigil]

u reroll rdru and find urself a dh

i dont seen bommy winning vs dhs ever in 2s

[queen copper]

fuk. yep thats what i thought

most infuriating comp

that and healer lock is a bitch too

[stray sigil]

dh is hard for feral so cant imagine what boomy feels like lmfao

[queen copper]

i feel like we have a chance vs almost every other comp

but trhe only DHs we beat are shitters

which are sometimes at 2k anyway+

not that 2k is great at all but these guys must literally faceroll to it

fcukers

i did it

ran at monk all game then gibbed dh

[rigid linden]

Fuji be like

hey guys peep my stats hehe xD

😦

@stray sigil @clear pulsar

3x IJ JF now

[stray sigil]

ok but i dont use that buff 😡

did u see the pants i showd earlier @rigid linden

ud prob like those

[rigid linden]

the wrathion ones?

i got these

for my mastery set

[stray sigil]

na i got a fat 475 crit vers pant

with t3 mas proc

[rigid linden]

this was my first piece of loot fromc hests

this season

LOL

[stray sigil]

tas pog

mine no socket yet unfortunate

[rigid linden]

It just so happens

my 3x ij 3x jf pieces

also have 3x gutripper

LOL

[slate nimbus]

i hope it's gutripper breakdown, not maim

[stray sigil]

prob

but tbf his maim probably not massive woth crit build lul

[clear pulsar]

Yeah but his maim prob all crit

So hit as hard as a MI non-crit maim

@rigid linden

Whats uuuuuuuuuuup

I cant have 3x ij 3x jf, only like 3x jf 2x mi 1x hod, but I think I'm gonna play with 3x ij 1x jf 1x mi 1x bfp and just not go all in on crit

30% crit, still almost 60% mastery and 21% versa

Some good compromise

[rigid linden]

Yeah that was my s2 build

[rigid linden]

thats gutripper

not IJ

[sullen viper]

damn guys which one? is the 9% haste enough to make it worth it?

fuck it its 500 haste

[edgy oxide]

$qelive

[last owl]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/

[edgy oxide]

err i guess it's pvp

nevermind

i hate that staff

you know that if you use the staff on shrine last boss with full debuff, it kills you

it's kinda hilarious

[lime light]

That's a scrapper staff

[tiny oar]

Smxn has 47% baseline vers

This game is disgusting

[clear pulsar]

[tiny oar]

🥳

[rich crag]

Hey formy you know you and your disc priest were highlighted in Pikaboo's video right 🙂 ?

Yeah that guy is funny, but he never shows him losing at all lol

[clear pulsar]

Bro in season 2, formy FARMED pika

Ofc not, it's highlights of his stream

What happened next?

I'm on the edge of my seat

[tiny oar]

Outskilled

Xd

[rich crag]

He seems to get triggered if someone emotes or does stuff like that but he has no issues doing it himself lol... I guess that's just the nature of ego streamers 🙂

[clear pulsar]

I dont watch him much but personally I cant say I've ever seen him get triggered

[lime light]

😐

[tiny oar]

Does that mean like fall 2020 wtf

[lime light]

December/november

Yup

[tiny oar]

If I have to see gushing wounds doing 30% of ape dhs damage for another 6 months

WOW

[lime light]

Not 30%

Prolly 50%

At this point

[tiny oar]

Learning feral to be like our fearless leader formy

Decimate these scum fotm rerollers

[clear pulsar]

LOL

It's just

He couldnt even see them bro @vestal citrus

Too quick he thought his vision was blurry

[obtuse ice]

Gunshing

[lime light]

Bolts

[tiny oar]

Make starsurge great again

[lime light]

Make rip big again

[obtuse ice]

wait shadowlands

[tiny oar]

I pray to holinka every night

[manic arrow]

Guys, how crucial is vitality conduit for resto in PvP?

I've heard that it's kinda a win thing

[tiny oar]

Pretty mandatory for 3s can get away with not playing it in 2s tho

[rigid linden]

@rich crag whos me and my disc

was i on DH

[tiny oar]

U n oxy

[lime light]

Opening in 1hr

😐

[clear pulsar]

You'll get big

I believe

[lime light]

👆

🙏

[tiny oar]

Crit vers gushing with a sock and SPEED

[clear pulsar]

Crit vers is bis

[obtuse ice]

poggies in the chat

[tiny oar]

If it makes u feel better I had 4 boxes and got 4 trinkets this week

[obtuse ice]

Dabg

[keen phoenix]

Azeroth veins, on my way, or heed my call? Feral

[lime light]

No

I dont Play crit

Only jf

I Play vers mast

🙏

@obtuse ice u need a spite from weekly and u ready