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ill report back tomorrow on how it went
u lil ragnaros rat
generous
its the best 3 inches ive ever had tbh

Enough of this bullshit
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The one channel where people get actual answers and breakdowns to their questions
Cant meme
Unlucky
nazi channels now :(
$mute 142673512987885568
Done.
i will remember you forever and always @stray sigil
i should have warned you i pressed dyne's buttons bright and early : )
@clear pulsar the dead channel with high end players and no active mods gets shit on constantly because admins are bad at pvp

Tfw I bench myself
Did I mention I'm rocking 3 or 4 blue wq items cuz of corruption and they arent even good?
Legit like crit damage corrupt shit
453 eq vs 468 bags
imagine taking time out of your day to moderate a channel with no more than 10 active users per day and usually it's the same 5 circle jerking


I havent got a single corrupted item from pvp
The weekly chests been 2 trinkets and 1 shoulder
complaining is not constructive discussion
Legit worthless stuff
$report
This incident has been reported to the proper authorities. Thank you for your time.
Uh idk why you reporting I think it's beautifully designed as a system
i love blizzard

rng based gameplay is actually my favorite part of WoW
rnd in moderation is fine
class design is at all time high
I really enjoy arena rn I go in and it's super engaging when I die in a cheapshot cuz 3 tentacles popped up at once and I cant kill
truly amazing classes each with unique abilities and niche purposes
in fact, i'd go so far as to say logging into wow every day is the highlight of my entire week
"I have seen the top of the mountain beavis, and it is good"
@surreal heron in all seriousness when do we get a dedicated pvp mod who can pin useful posts and favor me above all others? i vote for glyph personally
lmao
write something on the level of https://ptb.discordapp.com/channels/114145367322394624/282986412624838666/573438007898800148 or even close to it
and it'll get pinned
something like x is bad, don't use wont getp inned
that's a guide

a whole ass guide
look at other channels for reference, didn't say it needed to be a full fledged guide
edited
Truly amazing
it was longer
No it wasnt
pin useful, frequently requested info, so you can just direct someone to the pins instead of writing an entire essay everytime someone says "resto traits?"
yes it was
I was talking actively during that conversation, it was a very small edit
because i enjoy being part of this discord to see every reroll rdruid/feral ask the 5 same questions
btw
is bloodtalons good?

if you're feral just reroll DH, if you're resto que with DH
only pin we even need tbh
if you're feral just reroll DH, if you're resto que with DH
@wise valley
fucking genius m8
I cleansed echoing void wep cuz it's worthless now
I tested it out nad
Was never more than 5% of my damage
By that logic lets just delete this channel then, brilliant
If you are tired of answering the same 5 questions why not write a FAQ?
im back feelsgoodman
i made it back to the light
pinning individual is a waste of space
yeah
i've said before, combine it into a cohesive post
lotta pins being used rn
pins are useless
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we should be able to meme
only 5 of us speak here
i normally am useful sometimes meme
and get banned feelsbadman
i bet hes crying rn
plus mexicans make blood soup which is fucking delicious
i disgruntled dyne in the morning you should apologize and give him a compliment
dyne is a man, a manly man
This is not your private group chat, acceptable memes and other off-topic goes into #offtopic
Political bullshit, borderline racisim and dick jokes do not belong in Dreamgrove
i agree with the last part
can we dicuss the need to swap to off topic for non pvp issues considering this place is self functioning and serves also as a quiet reprieve for the pvp minded players to discuss other things we have in common
off topic is basically it's own group chat with it's own regulars
not like you need to make friends with them, you can continue your own discussions
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ferals want vers+mast right? is haste okay too?
u dont really gear towards haste
Nuj how often to you slurp up admin balls to keep that regular role?

@vestal citrus add good corruption to your pin
I think formy will never come back to update his
Oh you in vacay
Damn bro nice
Enjoy
So is Void-charged titanshard any good? Got it at 460 with speed. Mainly doing m+

i unsubbed lul
hope shadowlands comes early. 8.3 is so low effort like they gave up on this xpac's last year
had some good fun in 8.0 and 8.1 this xpac tho really enjoyed it at times
I think they did too
But
I think game will feel less unfair once everybody gets some of the busted essences
Unforch I've got 4 trinkets out of 6 weekly chests
So no corruption for me
corruption is the worst form of rng ever
like what is the chance u get 1 good corrupted item that is BIS for ur spec
from a basket of garbage like avoidance LUL
Just the lack of any class balance at all, they legit buff one of the strongest melees in the game cuz they underperform in raid, THEY STILL UNDERPERFORM IN RAID, but they don't balance out the buff in pvp, so it's absurd now
And then same with mistweaver, still irrelevant in raid, but just busted in pvp
Triple monk is an actual meta comp
@clear pulsar hold up pls

is bloodtalons good?
Now I have a badge is this good bro? @stray sigil
@forest kite season 1 was very fun in my opinion
when everyone had busted traits
seems like that is when the game is most fun in pvp because eveyrone is busted and capable of big dammies
people can do big dmg now too
but its not skill based anymore, rng mess
pray for star/TD/mind flay procs at the right time or double/triple proc for insta death
it does a good chunk on DK, but haste is better for them
oh and guardian
In pvp as well
but point was that its rng based now
too much of it, already had crit/class procs
proc sets in MMOs in general being too powerful is bad imho
I think it's natural for mmorpgs for character progression to be paramount, i.e. big gear makes big dammies
It sucks for any type of competitive aspect tho for sure
if they were active abilities i'd be happier
infinite stars stacks from 1 player works for the other too, right?
OK boomer
I dont think so LOL
@clear pulsar I hate your stats
456 eq on pvp set

467 bags
My corruption all suck I'm taking 8% leech for pvp instead of random crit damage bullshit
Just get good corruption bro
zugzug
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Still not the weap
Disgusting DH
dont be mad about DH's they play their own game, if DH lose anything they just bad
iam not even mad, if my healer is mana burned to 0 after 2 min
True they do play their own game
I'm not mad about mana burn anymore
I'm mad over the blade dance dodge bash > meta immune maim > blade dance dodge meld rake
ye
that is skill @clear pulsar
on a mage?
Gotta play the walking shred
For bigger bites @lime light
Or better yet
Kitty cleave with mistweaver


@clear pulsar bro i have 2 vers proc 10% corruption
but i cant run it cuz with weapon id have 70 corruption
Damn
I only have
Crit dmg corruption
And leech
So I play leech
It's not awful, usually a little bit under lotp in my healing don
i just did my 2 mask
and got belt
im actually tilted i cant use both
thats 20% vers
jfc
Damn
I think I'll try a 4 mask
But the EV nerf
Fucking
It was the only good corruption I had
Nah dv wep is way too good
Even if you have like 70% uptime on versa proc, DV damage per corruption is way too high for feral
Idk if it's worth
Unless you get higher ilvl blightreaper
Like 475
i feel like vs rogue mage blightreaper + 2 vers proc would be so much better
Tho waycrest isnt a terrible place
It'd be worse if we had to farm kings rest for getiikku
That place can eat a dick
that place doesnt like me
wtf

this is bfa bro 
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get gud bro
best weap I have currently
just faced fire mage that did 80k burst ama
What Ilvl y'all at on fetal
Feral
I'm 457 with just a key a week and just did a heroic clear from nya
is it weird i miss flame over breath major
wonder how much worse itd be to go flame major instead
It's a bit weird
idk somehow dont like pressing breath
if I only play 1 game above 1800 in 2s but I lose that game and I play 3s to cap (I'm not close to rival in 3s) do I still get a rival chest as long as I stay over 1.8k?
If you put your cursor on the chest it should tell you what ilvl it'll be

Very general question here, but how is Feral doing currently in 2s? And what's the strat usually?
I like it
Get ur notepads out lads
Peak coaching right here
Yea just do infinite pve rotation dmg while ur mw heals you through any amount of damage in the game
Free glad you're welcome
Exactly
Who needs cc when both your melee are doing 30k sustained dps honestly
anyone know any good resto druid to watch for arenas?
i was 2200 last season and i cannot figure out this season at all
struggling to keep 1700
Trillebartom is pretty good imo
@sullen geyser Well its early season
Getting 2.2 late is a Lot easier than early
yeah i dunno. getting globaled by a dk doing 37k dps single target
yeah guess ill just stop pugging arenas, pug doesn't kill tentacles while im stunned. i just fell over with full hots in bear with Fr going
@clear pulsar is next week chest or shoulders from cap
Any feral streamers?
@unborn anchor mocfernando ferrariferal tonyferal snupy fuse syfox
Nemonxtv
Cassidy38
FORMY BUT HEY NO HE LEFT US FOR DH
new to rated pvp with feral
and I gotta say
playing with a healer in 2s is euphoria
its like a whole nother game
what do you mean


In my understanding euphoria described something intense
There's nothing less intense
Than 2s
With a healer
As feral
Maybe 2s with a healer as DH is less intense actually
It's kinda oppressive but you can do it bro
Just raid and get maut wep bro
Some decent corruption
You know?
I have 0 idea
Like
Last I played
Like really decent with clone
and still not enough
Maybe I'm lacking some specific gear to beat them
aka corruption and pve trinket
just need good chain cc that doesn't share dr with clone
or go double melee and blast...
You should only be cloning when you can get value out of it, just cloning to clone is terrible practice. Against lock in particular it's a really hard matchup because of how tanky they are and I would even say don't even play clone against destro with a priest since dr and only with a paladin if you have good communication, main thing is stopping bolts and killing in damp.
You gotta kill the healer I think
Hpriest doesnt have real defensives
Greater fade is the only thing they have, every other cd is pure healing
I was hpal
You dont need pve gear but just like
Do raw damage
To oom them
I think
Idk I dont remember what I do most games
you lose
Yeah against hpal you have to sit on the lock
that is what I have done
I don't know if you can't kill him in dampening and he is killing you then it's because either: your healer isn't helping to set up kills or is just too afraid to push in, OR you aren't doing any real meaningful damage to begin with.
Are you pressing your buttons
Wtf destro dh living for 8 mins?
Whats ur damage breakdown?
I think you gotta play savage momentum instead of clone
Or maybe just instead of lotp
600k healing lotp
Doesnt matter
Your paladin can heal you
You have hella stops for damage
I think savage momentum is a significant boost
To your damage
As well as letting you wall
Every ~1:10-1:20
For both defensive and more masterful instincts
If you can sit on a caster like that
Also you have 0 corruption bro wtf
I have corruption look
You gotta do more dam
You literally havent done a single m+ this season
It's a guaranteed corrupted 470 item bro
Yeah but you cant complain that you dont have gear if you dont do the content that gives you gear
Your armory legit only shows a +8 done at all this entire season
All your equipped gear is from pvp and 2 items from raid
You dont have any corruption man
Nothing worthwhile
what
Do that raid
Get some maut wep
Those bracers are your best item hands down
Bro that's 10% damage buff
You can have like 60-70% uptime on that in pvp
You gotta be clowning me
Crit haste
Doesnt matter
I mean
You just dont want help
It's fine I get it, you wanna vent
But no point talking then
If all people say you go "yeah but no"
Fact is
You're losing and you've been complaining that you lose to locks forever
But you dont wanna try something different just cuz you think you know better
lmfao
Yeah im gonna stand by what I said, your healer isn't helping to set up with you, there's no way you do that much more damage than the lock and still lose
Healer needs to grow a pair and push in for a hoj
Except if lock is busted but owo
Prolly holy was lacking some corruption and item
we setuped nice reps and clone
50% versa lol
Not even the corruption look at the damage difference between him and the other pally, taking away the damage from vitality and mindflay, your healer was legit afk most of the game just sitting behind a healer healing.
He needs to grow a pair of balls
pillar healing*
was a russian pug anyway
@obtuse ice doesnt do m+
hes 2 smooth brain for hard pve mechanics
do you want
i want u to love me
did you have a stroke bro
Why
omelette du fromage

I'm gonna get a better rating in 3s than in 2s
Approved @clear pulsar
I mean mine
18% baseline
ok bois, we getting there slowly, main feral 50 more rating, dk 100, alt dk 60, alt feral 200
2.1 ?
u did
but sky is the limit
i was 10 short from 2.1k on main
but we faced 3x dh hpal in a row
c:
but got 250 rating today, not bad
@lime light look at bite tooltip
If it goes up, just use it
That's all you stack mastery for anyway
If you drop mastery for ilvl but your spells all go up in damage then it's all good
it goes up by 200 dmg
but iam losing 2.5% versa
so 1.25% dmg reduction
so i guess its not good
200 dmg nerfed by 25%
65 neck
: >
@vestal citrus im assuming its better to aim for looting a staff versus 1h/off hand?
dude my conflags are hitrting as hard asmy CB's
lmfao
Wtf you playing lock wtf wtf
yeah
Breadon left us
He is gone with formy now
and you spelled it wrong anyway
tru
easier to get staff for ilv bump tho
lucked into 3x cloth dps for m0 and got SoS staff
what would yall recommend for pvp feral or balance
feral
balance is basically dead rn
but if you enjoy it and dont want to push to extemely high ratings you can play it
Feral pve bad
ok noted switch to feral for pvp
are you new to feral?
If you main balance
im new to druid
im not much of a healer so i guess ill just learn balace pvp
if you decide on feral you can check pins for formys guide which covers some basics
dont play balance pvp if youre new to druid
absolutely not worth uit
Balance isnt bad
It's just hard to find peopel to play with
Ferals have the loyalty of hunters
is idiotferal now named faux?
no thats sifox
@rigid linden what are the top traits besides MI and what essences are good for ferals
thought it was MI tbh
i was tasked with writing a clear FAQ so i can spam "check pins"
my guide shouldnt be out dated
little changes here n there
just needa add corruption i guess
yeah i agree but i came up with the top 3 asked questions for feral/resto which would be more a clear and straight to the point PIN because im wagering 90% of the people who are directed there dont take the time to read the whole thing
you gotta update it to add oldgodforged benthic 3x azerite
@clear pulsar i actually upgraded a benthic today to 430 lmao
@rigid linden what are your thoughts on guard affinity
counter productive
pre run goes and swiftmend when ur snared so it takes u outa form and heals u
Pls take everything i say witha grain of salty
salt*
i just started playing feral again
ty
LOL
just curious noticed faux ran GA but it might have been an odd game and armory saved the swap
ya pre rejuv a go ull live
i 100% cannot adapt to not having hots

said pre run a go
if u cna do that like its second nature RMPS tend to switch off u
then u can clone forever
and disrupt game
i swapped into "run away" talent actually
not sure how pre running ago makes resto aff better lol
automatically casts "aight ima head out" ability when DH press first ability
cause whats the point of being bear affinity if u can just avoid damage by playing more aware
1700 is hardcore wtf u saying bro
im just saying u can pre run gos on bear aff and still not randomly die to a kidney
dont see that as being a good argument for resto aff personally
- regen feels really good to have in a lot of games vs swiftmend
i think its more bear aff is like, borderline relying on bear aff to save you
BITEFUL
when you can be thinking ahead and pop heals and then swap to bear, and rely on team/peel/cc instead of aff
i could be wrong, i never got used to playing GA i cant stand it
what else are you going to rely on ?
u take perma 6% reduced dmg
and resto aff has off heal use, ive seena nd done personally too many clutch heals to win a game to not use it
and u have a 30% heal on 30s cd
you can die in a kidney anyway with all that
yeah
my only point is that guard aff is not counter productive
thats a really weird way of thinking
resto aff is not a better pro active talent though
- resto aff is def worse whenever damp kicks in
does bear help team
have u done much 3s this season/last season
i dont do 3s
most of the time its about ur team helping you
i think seeing a go in advance, pre-hotting, and going to bear to either eat it or discourage the all in so they swap like formy said is better proactive than hoping 6% dmg reduction and the heal will save u
not saying it wont save you, but i would wager resto aff is ahead of it
bro rejuv is kind of a joke
the whole point of resto aff is yseras gift
that shit wont help u in a kidney
or in coils vs mld
ive won games because feral self heals, so perhaps im biased, and 2s might be different
if ur healer is cc'd and you eat a kidney im betting youre dead either way
2s is a lot slower in general
ya but u dont need resto aff to run to africa on goes @vestal citrus
- i see guard aff as having another defensive cd
cuz regen is huge
i suppose it's just personal preference and playstyle
I cba playing guardian aff cuz pre-bearing gos is awful at 175ms
Resto aff all the way man
someone make a virgin guard aff vs chad resto aff meme lmaoo
Yeah the issue for me is that
The moment you start relying on bear form
You lose
You gotta be confident bro
relying on ysera vs rogue mage
Bro
You're relying on yourself
The best defense is strong offense
Slay slay slay
You cant slay if you're in bear form
Dont be a dingus
I am
73%
Exactly
have u played
jungle vs rmpala
lol
ya hes the one who said
guard aff is counter productive
idk about that one
every single feral on ladder
goes guard aff in 3s
theres some outlier like axtin cuz hes a bit dense and still goes vision major incarn
but like zev fox fuse
all go guard
for the most part
Goes to show how it doesnt matter
And you just gotta git gud
How come you calling people dense
But 500 rating lower than them
GIT FUCKEN GUD BRUH
na man
axtin is def a dense mother fucker
dont ban me
im the one who told him ij was good in s2
he didnt trust me at all about it
hes kinda fried in the brain some times
does supatease still rap when he streams
I was the one who told @rigid linden ij was good too
I take full credit for his rank 1
I was telling axtin about maut wep too for the entire first week
And he was like "idk bro"
same
Maut weapon farms dude
It's like my top 4 or 5 dam everygame
Who TF would cleanse that
I guess if they had better corruption of would be fine
Cause it's still really good stats
Vers mustard
When people stop sleeping on breath of the dying
People are gonna cleanse the fuck out of tendies
quick question
vitality conduit as major in 2s
right?
and like, when do i use it? when my dps is taking big boi damage?
When ya boi is in a full kidney dark arch schism and hes taking deep dick pizza right to the fucking mouth @harsh ore but yea flame every game no baby shit
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@wise valley fuck dont report me bro
Too late orca strike coming in hot as we speak
vitality is god-tier for resto wdym
It has it's uses, I use it when i face comps that i know will absolutely train me and just pop that and go bear form
idk bruh vitality is just so cozy
you guys playing as boomy? i feel significantly weak as a boomkin.
Maut is good
Is it really that bad? Ive been trying to get help on it, but I just get shit on by literally every comp. I feel like the only time we win is when its vs players that are truly terrible.
boomy isn't that bad you win with good clone setups and, granted it's not the strongest ranged but you can do decently well with it. It's really good with either a shadow priest as owlplay or survival hunter.
Granted sv hunter does better with feral but it does just as well with boomy tbh
It's deffo not a fire mage or a destro lock, but it's not "in the bin" either
I cant get out of 1400 bracket.
I feel like I cant get help and no one wants to play xD
I was told 25% vers is baseline and to switch to conflict and strife major because of how hard we get trained.
No you just need to learn when to go bearform before you do get trained, you should be running breath tbh
Like pre stuns and stuff
I feel like i spend too much time in bearform and just get shit on.
i mean what are you playing with comp wise
dh mw monk
oh, well fuck me. i read it was a good comp
The biggest issue with boomy is it works, but it's just not as good as other options for your parter
Like a shadow priest is better with destro in shadowplay, and likewise a sv is better with feral in jungle
but they are your best bet for partners
Well, i guess i dont know what I should do. Its my first season pvping, but I feel like maybe the skill cap has just been too high for me.
Idk I feel like if you can't get out of 1400, thats not totally the comp problem it might also be some personal play issues
1400 is like, nothing
Trust me, i get that.
I just thought since im so familiar with boomkin, id be able to pvp on it, but i literally just die non stop and dont feel like i am getting better. Im going to try the verse baseline stat comment, but I feel hopeless. The pvp discord is dead too lol.
This place is full of filthy ferals
Thats all i see on the leaderboards, 4 resto to every 1 feral above 2k
i saw 2 boomkins though lol
If you want to learn boomy and watch it in arena i would strongly suggest watching corkiy
He's the best boomy in the world
Ill definitely start watching.
He is good
Hey guys what you guys recommend on pvp rn for resto druid
I recommend playing it
Traits ans essences
Check pins
Yeah was doing it but havent done since last season and it seems ladder is hard
vitality major is like conflict and strife major
minus the 7k mana cost
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and minus it being dispellable
or cleptoable
anyone got this trinket from s4?
it was removed from weekly cap? So it cant drop?
anymore
445
no ;D
so maybe it was removed
badge and insignia are different trinkets
ur is on use, tianton talked about proccing one
and it drops from wins/chest
Yea they removed medallion and insignia from conquest cap options
Just have to RNG them from wins/box
feelsbadman i just started playing ww and insignia is like one of the bis trinkets for it xd
Playing ww.. ๐ค
agreed ww is scum spec
Insignia is there
I got one from weekly chest
NOW THATS a feelsbadman
Havent got anything corrupted from pvp at all so far
NOTHING
get gud
Nah
Getting trinket from chest absolutely sucks
You can get 460 insignia from game and then that's almost good
Yea my only damage corruption is echoing void
Useless on rdruid unless I get to just sit in cat form the whole game
It's pretty weak regardless
Theres always next slot machine reset TM
rng 
Are the mindflays useless as moonkin? Feels like it never proccs
Mindflay is good, itโs the specc KEKW
Is vitality major worth running in 2s? Seems really cool for 3s though.
dh/resto, I dont have the Vitality conduit now due to main swap,. just wondering if it is worth the effort for 2s.
gg
You'ree stronger
Heโs a heavy hitter
anyone know what talaneds should i use for pvp ? as resto ?
soul of the forest, stonebark, germination
ok alt dk 2.1k too lets go bois
Spring blossoms and photosynthesis can be good in pvp as well tho
Spring blossoms and photosynthesis can be good in pvp as well tho
Your main is dk and your alt is a dk as well @lime light ?
You're disgusting
Anyone have a quick tip for essences for Feral PVP right now?
oh cool thanks
breath of the dying / conflict / vision of perfection (i prefer it vs some comps), but in 95% games u want breath as main
lucid/conflict/crucible as minor
i know formless void works also good as minor
if u play with disc that plays crucible
but dont have it, so cant rly tell
CLF as minor is also decent if u have, just remove crucible
I gave him a quick tip
blood of the enemy can also works as major
vs mw's rdrud's that are not guardian
@clear pulsar ๐
Tianton so good
Guys I have a question
Is 3s vocal always need to be toxic
I just have the feeling
Everyone tries to defend themselves like it's all about others mistakes
instead of pointing objectively what mistakes has been done and what we should do instead
Maybe I'm young delusional
Heya guys any guide for feral Druid 8.3 pvp??? Thanks
I'm playing with like
2.6 players
dunno if it's high or not
I mean it good to blame others and stuff
but it just feels like they try to put them down instead of making them improve
Maybe because they have the feeling of "I've been good alone" and they don't want people to be better than them
Polish =/= nice guy
iam nice
and i play feral
more
cuz when i log dk
i just win every game
so i log feral and i win lose, so basiclly
i play feral more
ok?
yes
Tian
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Still wanna play with me?
ofc





