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isnt bite nerfed in pvp or some shit
30% of like 60k on leather is not that much
idk
ud be banking for huge crits and then useless for 1min
not much diffrent for world either
1min to get ur 60k bites
when ppl have 450k
and if u get ccd its big rip
If you do a 50k bite into 50k ff into 50k bite, that's almost 50k damage increase from worldvein
I mean
That's like saying badge is shit cuz it's only a 25% dmg buff
Idk
So if you account for a few bleed ticks that's easily more than breath would have done
breath is 100k in 15s no?
and u get value from its minir
theres barely any value from veins minor
260 agi is ass
I'd like to see that 100k breath damage
If you're consistently getting your cd reduction cuz they're above 80%
Then what the fuck type of pressure do you have?
None
So it's 2 hits in 1 min!?
Cuz you're then banking on them not being above 80% for your 2nd breath right?
Yes, 1st at 0, 2nd at 15s, 3rd at 60s. 2 hits every minute, basic math
1st worldvein at 0, 2nd worldvein at 60s, that's 2 uses too

I'm done
Good luck in your games
i mean u can play ur meme shit
butvlike dont get defensive when ppl say its only a meme
And you can play your tryhard shit and then brag about being 100 rating higher than me
It's ok
It's always a rough day when people can't do math
You're telling me the one above is 3 but the one under is only 1?
I drew it up pretty for you to understand
within 1 minute
ull get 3 breath
and 1 veunst
veins
i see what ur saying
but 3> 2
You're trolling me
When you play lunar inspiration you need creative ways to finish off a kill

Ofc it's a meme man we play fucken feral druid in 2020
We are all memes
Let me guess: you play with hpal?
what essences do you use for arena ? I was using:
2x2: Crucible flame for major, minors - conflict and strife, life binder invoc
3x3: conflict and strife for major, minors - life binder invoc, memory of lucid dreams
Not sure what to put as 4th... or maybe even switch all for a better build
Vitality conduit / ever rising tide
Got it! Thanks
But what about Spirit of preservation (r3) ? is it good with the crit chance
rank 2 sounds weak imo... or I am looking at bad source:
Rank 2: Every 5 sec, gain Devout Spirit, causing your next Quick Heal to heal for an additional 1595, stacking up to 5 times. Unique: Corruption Resistance increased by 10.
Β±1600 does not sound huge
2665 per stack at neck lvl 75
It applies to regrowth
It ends up being a massive increase with soul of the forest and mastery stacks
That is the number before versa also
So for me it's already 15k extra on regrowth at 5 stacks
Add 5 hots on top of it, I'm at 15% mastery, goes up to 30k, add sotf and it's 90k
does that portion actually get increased by mastery?
I only have rank 1, so 3 stacks max. My regrowth after OG > Swiftmend went form 119k to 190k
Sounds like it's in line with the numbers I wrote for 5 stacks
interesting
makes sense, since it's just an increase and not a separate heal
Yep
I'm also psure regrowth has a pvp buff modifier of another 15%
Which should apply to spirit stacks as well
yeah probably
i haven't fooled around with it, so i wasn't sure if it was just a direct increase or classed as a different heal
It looks like a very good minor for certain healers
Bro I really like wow
I just keep looking at all the things in the game
Was trying to figure out the essences my healer wants to run
And spirit seemed rather good for his rsham
But I always test everything bro, had to test it as resto dru
π‘
Btw the echoing void
Double nerfed
Still crits for 8k
Rank 2
Imagine a @vestal citrus with rank 3 echoing
+vision + thorns from rdru
monkaHmm
But man
In this meta
My pet is dying faster
Then i can resummon
Yooo
Chill chill
Dk is fine
Ok?
We good now
As what?
as resto
@clear pulsar whats your rep with uldum
in 2s, if you are nelf run cyclone + feral affinity + entg bark + mass roots, if you are anything else run guardian + cyclone + ent bark + mass roots
pick mana essences and mana trinkets
for both options in 2s
control him, try to spend as little mana on healing as possible -> eg keep lifebloom up and use every clearcast proc
innervate when he doesn't have cc -> maximum value out of it
in 3s, depending what comp dh is in, if its dh dk -> you are the target, run rele + mass roots + bark, keep kiting
run guardian
don't take clone in 3s, you wont cast it vs dh dk ever

take mana trinket and minor essences, major too if you feel confident, if not, play conflict major
big tip is that if he has reverse
use your bark to root him instead of mass roots -> he reverses once but gets rooted again anyway if he does, if not, he sits full root into reroot into clone
obviously root him out of los of enemy healer, so he wont get dispelled
thats it
gl and hf
Be mindful of the partner tho
If you're playing with a mage or with a feral there's little point in playing entangling + mass root
Or with a sv hunter
well yea
ofc
no
play roots with hunter
you counter any dh you meet
cc him to death and never touch him
doesn't matter
Cant be dispeled
trackers net cd is longer than dr, which means you can abuse it, thats one
Entangling bark is interesting, like you said he can try to reverse but he'll get rerooted immediately
two, is that hunter is going to be on healer so not exactly in position to help you everytime
its the only choice
and three, its dodgeable by blade dance
so sometimes it will screw it up
also if you are nelf
I think if you're playing like that, you'd still want feral affinity as non-nelf, cuz if he'll sit roots every dr, you'll be able to get hella restealths around pillars, no?
not if enemy healer is not dogshit no
- he will break stealth with eye before you react to it
- crucible shit or vile weapon from underrot + any azerite trait that gives you dot
instatly fuck you up
and the mana difference of saving mana from 6% and frenzy is going to be a factor
you can obviously run it if you want
Tru
Yeah I was gonna say
as nelf you meld every burn possible into rake stun into clone
he wont stand a chance this way
You might not get the full restealth but if you root dh behind pillar then you can jump on enemy healer and do some more pressure
Wait meld burn?
If you meld does burn not hit?
cuz he is multi r1 
because its unreliable, sometimes work sometimes doesn't
Tremendous brain
indeed
Thanks for tips
dk dh abuser 
just kidding
@sick wolf we can cap your horde druid ofc 
i think i can handle that on my own so no worries x)

What do you guys think are the best pvp dps specc atm for druids?
balance or Feral?
Feral
guardian
π
is streaking anything u wanna go for in pvp, arena most thinking
Not really
It's giga nerfed in pvp
You just need 1x arcanic pulsar. Other than that, bf focus and some good stat procs or 1x gory regeneration, the guardian trait that extends frenzied
You could always use that
Or waking dream if you have resto affinity
All traits work for all specs if you have the spells that are affected by them
If you play feral aff and you rake someone, blood mist can proc as any spec
ahh u have to have the affinity π i se lol
So on and so forth
for waking dream, yes only works with affinity
but guardian could always use PotM
etc.
unstable flames, on my way, azerite veins. whats better. prolly the vers one right?
didint know lol thx man π
I think I'd take on my way yeah
But it's super minor
Like 0.5% damage buff
And 0.25% dmg reduc
yeah but would be the better one of the 3 i gues, crit aint shit in pvp π
Yeah and azerite veins procs so rarely, also immediately disappears as soon as you're full hp even if you drop back down again right after
So it kinda depends on your healer
With a disc priest veins can be good, but boomies dont like playing with disc
Ideally you'd have all that mastery as versa
But mastery isnt awful
It's just that
Versa defensive benefit is very good
yeah just dont have the gear π
For just damage mastery is prob better
With that much haste you prob have hella dots
@vestal citrus help the man out
yeah im total nob when it comes to pvp lol just doing ti for the weekly chest now cus damn corrupted π giff some good shit π
how do you deal with assassination rogues as resto? I can't seem to outheal or peel them off
idk I'm tryign to do that buyt nothing seems to heal through corruption traits
Trying doesn't mean you succeed right?
You have to get of of him
With bash vortex clone
id give my other kidney for maut weapon
hows guardian in arenas after the nerfs?
Bad
3rd Masterful Instincts or 3rd Iron Jaws?
3rd Masterful Instincts
ty
jungle feels so difficult this season
like very difficult
stuck at 1k rating
with 11-8
is there even a point trying without a disc
Im playing boomy jungle with succses at around 1700-1800 mmr atm
playing it makes me wanna get corona virus and die
Does echoing void stack?
trying to do some light 2s with a friend and he plays war. I'm getting trained non stop and I'm not having much success surviving, any tips?
Thorns doesn't seem to matter ever
Guardian affinity, donβt get stunned in human form, run away from enemy dps. Oh, and do PvE.
@west laurel boomy + hunter + healer? Whats your exact comp?
i'm mostly a PvE player but doing arena for weekly cap plus weekly chest. Is Boomy, BM hunter, Disc Priest viable?

my buddy plays either holy pal, resto sham. Other buddies is choice of ww monk, arms warr or fire mage. Im feral, what comp could work in 3s
i think ww resto sham feral is pretty nice since giga CC chain
Yeah and it's not even close
How much better that is than any other comp you can play
Should I hate my warlock mate for playing demo or accept him for how he really feels
Ya thatβs what Iβm feeling :/
Wednesday I'll get all 5 masks
But can't do full run with 5 for a month or more lol. They might need to nerf it.
??
i'm talking about visions that give u 470 loot (including azerite)
Yeah why do you think they need to nerf it?
Too hard for you?
People are finishing it full with 2 masks at current upgrades
When you get the last one it'll be ez pz
And it wont take 5 weeks
LOL
have u tried with masks?
You can get 4 runs per week
with 5 masks its 125% more hp and dmg plus 500 sanity + 400% sanity loss from enemy spells
and 3 more affixes
you talk so much shit, it's unbelieveable
what class?
i think u can do 2 mask right now solo
ah, but without it i think u can do 2 mask as DH
do u know how high the proc chance is on the last talent?
comes to that
is it much easier in group? mob hp scaling is not 5x, is it?
Homeboy did 2 masks as feral today
Solo
Mob scaling is more than 5x
I think it's 110% per person
more kicks too yea
what in the actual fuck are you supposed to do against rogue mage
accept mmr loss and move on?
Lol. Kill the rogue, get ur healer to help interrupt and cc the mage if possible
Sub rogue mage is really scary with corruption for sure. Mage can prolly stack insane amount in 2v2
Which one of you fucks is illivia?
Disgusting guardian player
DISGUSTING
GROSS GROSS GROSS
Azerite veins kinda nice vs disgusting guardian teams
@stray sigil
just got jebaited by a sick wild charge off the upper level of the zuldazar arena
ended up winning but im still mad
60 mmr away from 1600 yeet
@clear pulsar proc is so inconsistent, sometimes feels like i get no procs and sometimes a lot
mostly why i dont like it
Yeah I know
Unforch
The issue is that
It can proc while you're full
So it procs for half a second and disappears
But vs guardian rot you're always at 60%
So it's nice to save your healer's mana
Tru
@spiral zephyr i play boomy sv disco priest of rsham
That oughta teach them not to play with their food
do someone have a macro what hide all Druid forms in my bar ?
Season 1 unironically best bfa season

At least people didnt abuse busted pve gear to dampen, or stupid corruption procs
Just feels like the season everyone got glad TBH
noone a macro for hiding all forms in my bar ?
Wdym hiding
thats an extra addon
???
Hide
kidding
Druid form
Just bind them
i try my luck
i have them bindet
ed
but i see all forms over my kebinds
u kknow
and thats fucks up
dont need so see all my forms
thanks anyway
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honest question - I primarily tank m+ on a druid, monk, and guardian
i'd like to get back into healing arena, but really only want to pick one healer
and to be further honest, I'm really just looking for an easy class, as I'm casual as hell
any recommendations between those three healers?
tried taking in my MW to 2's but it feels like i lose the mana/cc war every single time
when using spells and abilities, they have a chance to proc a 10 second buff that cuts your CDs in half
breath of the dying good major?
ferol
yes its pretty good
depends, if u know they might purge hard, breath is the play
but breath as minor mus have
my dmg breakdown atm
true
I got mind flay on my DH earlier
but one thing
u cant get corrupted item from arena
cuz u cant get item
in general
from arena

this is what am runnin atm
dont put questionmarks like I main this minigame thing
u can try bote, if u wanna try some one deag's
aight
its rly good vs monks/rdru's without guardian
really op
pretty good
the fkn wheel
don't think
when a button is shining to me it's a proc lol
Wheel one?
as in %
Idk I'd never play that shit in arena
400 crit and 400 haste on rings when I have socketed double vers mastery
xxd
Does the remote guidance device really do half the dmg of Drest'agath trinket on longer cd or am I missing something?
Sure
why not thorns vs fury
I have to kill druid tho
you asking us
u need to force freanzy regen
what you do wrong
just wall earlier
well had to
Yup $$
cause druid was running in circles around it
^
but warrior had no hots, u bleed warrior, and keep 5 combo till druid comes back
When druid use CD
fury warrior used to be a big no no to attack tho
go on war
but they are getting rly weak in damp
dont wanna watch this game
cuz i know how this wil lend
end
so aids
you need to do more scary goes
what do you mean
ive tried
all when pally is ccd
I dont have IJ
sad
^
I just wanna get at least 1.8k on this char..
im going rogue normally
kill tentacle
xD
You litteraly
from behind
wasted
but didnt go through
wtf is faint
feint
no bro
while rogue does nothing but mongo
you played like ass
druid heals with hots and swiftmend on this dampen
so you want me to dot both?
cant do shit
cc war more
playing both clone and thorns
makes you lose lot of dam
and pressure
you like cloned one time
well I cant clone anyone
don't take it then 4head
yeah idk how it would have gone
just left cause cba
gay ass resto druid just running away
used to be able to just kill rogue against rdru/rogue
but such shit damage nowadays
cant
so should I always just double dot if its rdruid with guardian aff and something else
i would think so unless
you're going deep for a kill
anyway, druid hots will eventually not outheal your dots as dampening goes on
k
but like its so aids when im against some rdru/warrio and druid just keeps running away
hard to keep both dotted
yeah but how hard are you chasing the druid
some times you give up the chase
cuz he's so far away from his partner and LoSing him potentially
that you can just swap back to warr and put more pressure on him
then when druid comes back to spend globals
you can WC back to him and get a cc/burst setup on him
feral is very swap oriented in 2s (if we're talking about 2s)
if you want to chase a healer down you play assa/ret/dk/dh/warr
we'll see
moonkin is so broken this season
impossible to beat disc/moonkin
I just try to kill disc but not enough dmg
Which corruptions are best for Resto in 2s??
it is tho
I've seen a lot of Boomies doing so much damage as well
yhea @vestal citrus what u doing go climb
@surreal heron Is there someone that can activate streaming on this discord?
Corkiy best player tbh
He is so fkn strong
i want to be corkiys sugar baby
Hearing zech struggle as a feral makes me so thankful I refilled to dh lmfao
shut up
he says a lot of stupid stuff, not sure id take what he says srsly lol
More complaining stuff than stupid stuff
i mean he did say boomy is op
and you said feral was trash
then boomy is kinda op
guardian where itβs at
I'm from na severs??
not u brother
Archenon poros
si senor

What pvp essences should we use on feral nowadays?
Breath of the dying R2
As major
Lucid dream
Conflict and strife
And maybe flame or condensed life force
Minor
Botd is a good major essence in pvp?
70k crit
Yu0
@obtuse ice yes, but no
Why @surreal heron
does rank 3 buff the major of breath alot?
hey boys - can anyone help me with my essence choices & azerite choices as a healer in arena?
http://www.skill-capped.com/content/15622/restoration-druid-pvp-guide/
https://www.wowhead.com/restoration-druid-pvp-guide
what is best major to use as a boomy?
π πͺ
Would I be better playing feral or boomy for some quick 2s wins? Have gear and essences for both
@teal wren feral
I'm thinking about trying something new. I played resto on and off this last season and I normally play feral. I want to try out some boomy. How good is it doing and what comps should I try to shoot for in 3s
or is it just like a fancier afflock
Hello fellow healers. I want you to ask. Wich one is better healer for mainly 2s arena resto dudu or holy paladin ?
I'm decently rated on resto but tried to do some Moonkin 2s. What in the world am I supposed to do under melee pressure? Stand flat and juke a kick and roast? Or constant kite with dots up ?
Not to be lost is that I've never pvp on a caster before. Old rogue /hpal main. So this is laughably bad.
@errant crystal @vestal citrus heard it's pretty supportive and has limited windows but glyph would know better
@unique lion both are good for different reasons
but i think rdruid is more versatile and has more outplay potential cuz of cyclone and mobility
@unique lion I play both hpal and resto, they are pretty different. Hpal is more powerful. Resto has more nuance and movement . And better peels.
But hpal has really good burst dps. So they are less rot sustain. More pressure.
I like druid cause don't die to kicks in double melee. Lol
im so fucking pissed off
cant fucking win anything
as feral/disc or feral/holy pala
like nothing works anymore
when facing rogue/disc
I cant kill the rogue and cc disc with paladin
it used to be so easy
but now they just win always

cant fucking be 1.8k even
but shit with rep
like shouldnt I just try to kill the rogue when he is low
no idea why they had to do this 30% nerf on feral
dmg feels so shit
can someone watch my stream, zechey on twitch
tell me what I do wrong
fucking 5-6 losses in a row
now couldnt beat ww/hpriest
cant win anything anymore
is it because everyone has op corruptions or what
what the fuck
like I just try to focus hpriest but ww peels him so much
its hard
am I supposed to double dot or something
ffs
ive lost like 100 rating now
almost 1.7k
like last season getting 1.8k with anyone was super easy
now I cant have that
like how the fuck
is this even possible
and everyone says feral wasnt nerfed
???
I dont get it
now lost against a fucking terrible arms warr/hpal
cant fucking win anything
just double dotting both and cycloning pala low and switchign but cant kill anything
Feral disc is countered by disc assa
NO
Then
lose 400 ratiing
these people I face are fucking shit
and are still winning
warrior didnt even try to reflect my cyclone
This mean you are doing even worse!
tbh i dont even take clone vs warriors
i just bt and pump both
and they die in like 2mins
just void ritual
ya i do like 20k dps with no corruption
no I dont think its the problem
well vers procs only
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/545900355 like can you check the match at 30 mins
and the two afterwards
I mean the one afterwards
like wtf am I doing wrong
losing to that disc/rogue
and arms/hpal
so fucking annoying
i feel like
if you were more patient with kicks the hpal woulda died
you kept getting faked
youre just tilted
youre ragequitting games idk
game was going fine and you just rq when he grips
Keep cool @livid wasp
then you rq before game start vs dh hpal
its not youre just putting a mental block
Know you limits
and I was cool
bad q sesh happens
well why am I the only one whos struggling now when this season came out
Cause you are doing something bad
Everything
we are pointing you
is thing you can improve
but you just
keep saying
"no" and "why do I have to try hard when ennemies just spam button"
for what its worth
i didnt see glaring issues in ur gameplay
but your mental is something you gotta work on
i could see you spazzing
not a good look
Defenitly titled gameplay
well im fucking losing my mind from these arenas
I used to play this game just casually doing bgs
but
it feels so useless now
I wanna do rated pvp and be good at it
but I cant
stuck at this shit level
Stop saying no at every advice we are giving to you
q with a friend to detilt or something
go on pornhub
when did I say no to advice
ffs
I hate healers who leave group after I leave one arena
so pointless to go on when im against mw and havent even got cocoon after a minute
LOL
me and friend playing prot pala/feral, what am i suppose to do vs destrolock hpala?
like general gameplan, do we just go into dampening and constant LoS resets to heal before going for the lock or just jump the healer and kick chaos? im bad at pvp and just dont get what to do
1600 2's
@clear pulsar should give you hints
LOL another protpala feral
Nice
Honestly like every matchup is hard
You have to force cooldowns by chaining cyclone and rep on healer
And use cds precisely, cuz you cant get too low or infernal will rot you down behind pillars when you try to run.
Thing is lock is way too tanky
any incarn vison abusers?
are you tian?
heart lvl 75 ?
I don't
Ever think about an ophtalmologist?
Anyone know what traits are good as boomie? Since streaking sucks
Battlefield focus=Battlefield Precision?
@clear pulsar uh
Its pure shit vs destro for sure
But overall i kinda feel it
Vs rdruds mws
Maybe not rly vision major, maybe minor and incarn
Gotta test for sure
incarn feels like ass in general
@clear pulsar cheers, you have any link for your prot like armory, talents, essences?
@loud axle
I honestly dont remember how we played vs hpal destro
Shadow prob able to tell u better
Does anyone have a good weak aura for Focused Growth? I found one but it only tracks it when the lifebloom is on myself, not my partner. Can't figure out how to configure it other wise. If anyone can help please @me with a response π
okay, do i have to be actually targetting that person? I use mouseovers. @vestal citrus
I use vuhdo for healing frames
mmm ok thanks, annoying its this complicated π
I think I tried that once and it didnt give the results i wanted, but ill try again
yeah, thanks for the help I appreciate it
Vuhdo isn't recognizing Focused growth, was able to just duplicate the WAs- one with focus and one with player to see it on both of us in 2s.
I went thru them all, unless i typed one wrong. On another note- blizzard pls nerf infinite stars more TY
The IS debuff is dispellable so it's not the worst thing ever
Dispellable sure, but when ive dispelled it 10+ times in a <5min fight and it does 800k dps thats insane XD
Can't dispel ev lmao
yea, EV has done significantly less damage in all the arenas ive been in at least. meters could be wonky sometimes i guess tho
Usually tied with my rake/rip in 2s
Are there any good rotting trinkets for feral? Currently running a 460 drestagath and a 455 phial of the arcane tempest
The dresta falls off hard on mail / plate
@gloomy token have you tried some of the new pvp trinkets? I believe thereβs one that spawns a massive void zone that increases enemy corruption
Haven't gotten any yet
Was getting into pvp for my 1600 but I've been having fun with it
Try an insignia or badge for burst / verse
Looking less at burst and more sustained damage on plate
What trinks are good for feral arena?
ah i just realized u can research everything for visions
should be good source of 470 then
probably not to farm to 470 ilvl but to get corruption
once per week
@silver osprey essences, I pretty much ran conflict major each time because the utility of all the pvp talents I use was too much to give up. And for minors I like anima for the hp and VoP for even shorter wings cd on top of the talent choices. Talents, typically run redoubt (because both holy shield and blessed hammer can break cc in different ways), crusaders judgement, rep, cavalier/spellwarding depending on matchup, hand of the protector, consecrated ground, righteous protector, and pvp talents Always guardian of queens, pretty much always the silence one, and the third changed based on matchup but judgement of the pure is a ton of healing so I use that baseline.
Vs fire mage I typically ran spellwarding + sacred duty so my spellwarding was same cd as combust. Matchup will determine other changes but if you want a different major essence then you are almost just stuck with steed of glory locked in as your third pvp talent; steed of glory is Really strong and just canβt feasibly be given up since it immunes u from all cc.
any writeups on corruption somewhere for boomy? looking at the mindflay/ bleed/vers on dmg taken procs

