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Big shaq
@last trout poison, curse, magic (off the top of my head)
cannot dispel bleed and disease
i need to vent
hpal ww with both of them having echos and stars
is so fkin cancer
jesus christ shoot me
wym brazil
do i look like a mexican to u
but for real tho
we get karma in 10s of the game
rest of the game im getting shit on by hentai and voids
and stars
fun season ahead
Do we need to cap conquest twice to get the weekly chest? I capped it once and handed in the quest and got the item, will i get an item in my chest tomorrow?
think he means he missed the item
and hes confused about it
but no even if u get 4 items u only capped once
Yea I'm EU
I got one item this week from the quest by capping my conquest
Will i get an item in my weekly?
Ah nice, thanks
Server is down and didn't get the chance to check it out
My max 2v2 was unranked i think, 1.1k
but was more looking forward to getting cns rank 2
think ud get a 450 or 455 not sure
Was in the middle of an arena match when server got DC'd but got the "Victory" frame just as we got dc'd.
Wonder if it will count ๐
Whoever dcs last wins the match yea
I got a +8 yday
In 1h 8 boxes opening kurwa bois
Got This From My PvP Chest ๐ค
I can't seem to find any Good Way to Actually Use it in any content ๐ค
thats not that bad
@lime light ggwp
In 2s lmao
is void ritual really trash?
wanting to grind pvp essence with a guildmate
2 druids none of us know how to heal what should we play ?
feral/boomy ?
guardian/boomy ?
@lime light got the same corruption... maybe its decent on resto
ofc boots again - Im collecting boots in this game...
I got 475 versa/mast gloves from chest but with void ritual ๐ฆ
is echoing void still good?
I literally just cleansed my twilight devastation belt or I'd show you up
is maledict still good or did they nerf it too much?
its good if u have 2-3
need atleast 2 ya
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GggWf7twSlw
A classic from my guy @tardy hare
i have 1 mi rn and bunch of garbo traits lul
honestly traits dont even matter for feral xd
mi or ij is big
But like you do realize you're prob the highest exp feral in this conversation right? @obtuse ice
I mean you ask me I'll always say masterful instincts >>>
But you gotta trust your own judgment bro
I think it would depend on the other traits too if I was to make a decision
mi and ij are good but honestly not having either doesnt even matter
475 helm
See that's a good one, I'd prob take azerite veins over flames personally
wdym maiming for 80k or for 10k
I got the bf precision shoulders this week, pretty good
that helm kinda blows
doesnt matter?
ngl
AZerite veins decent?
It's ok, some games it randomly keeps you up at good times
so the choice is for my chest 450
The buff disappears as soon as you're topped so if your healer likes to overheal you then it'll have less value
Either this one
@lime light i have 0 ij never had a problem kill stuff lol
Good with a disc priest that is always in a struggle to keep you over 80%
Or this one
I'd take the venture co with mi and waking dream
Just cuz the other 2 options on the 2nd ring are garbage af
venture has 2 dead traits on it
atleast the other one
So I just took waking dream instead of wfr
has semi decent traits all over
Waking dream fro resto 
That's why you have diff piece with gory regen 
i used this one in s1
You just have to swap spec to pick the trait
last ring is super nerfed
It works in any spec
REALLY
but ursocs still good
lmao
But yeah with those options I'd probably go 3x ij then
I rarely did cuz I always played like
Caster feral
Sp, lock, fire mage
And people didnt focus me much
Had hella peels
are u eu
he is kangaroo
No?? Bro we literally hang out in axtin stream everytime he's on
Wtf
Fuck you fuji I thought we had a friendship
Ah
mean
DH m-
I mean
BR
just be me and get shit azerite still win cus feral op
Anyone else like azerite veins
OnMyWay
id take vers over veins
and Unstable Flame
I already have 1.9k versa
I take veins every piece I can honestly
get s piece with myway and mi
Like it wont be every game, but you'll see the impact in some matches
On my way is legit 45 versa, when you already have 20%, that is 0.4% dmg increase
22.28 versa
Basic math fuji
:pog:
im just saying
it is cuz most options are awful
Like you said, it legit doesnt matter, but fuck if I'm not taking all the survivability options I can
@clear pulsar did u check my ring pls
vers is surv pog
0.2% dmg reduc
pog

@clear pulsar can u kurwa check my ring i got today
Your ring
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this is shit right
Is that the haste proc socketed ring? @lime light
haste
lul
no
I got this shit
Fuji so negative all the time
my only corruption
Get maut wep on mythic asap
i need hc one first...
His other gloves
He's asking about the alternative
It's like you fucks dont even speak english wtf
yes
200 versa tbh
- bad stats
Man I hate Crit and Blizzard feeds it to me like I am drinking out of a fire hydrant.
Yeah but arent you a guardian player?
LUL
Yes. Crit is actually my second higest stat on my gear and it does the least amount for me. It isn't "bad" but it isn't something I want. Give me Haste/Ver and Mastery all day long.
whats botd again
oh ya
how many weeks of doing dailies is that actually
@clear pulsar you have hc weapon right ?
it doesnt seem to increase at all
It'll be another 3 or 4 weeks still
Im not even honored xD
well ull catch up cuz we used to get 75 rep
Yeah heroic
now it 125
I got both raid weps heroic
Echo is less single target, and the aoe is actually split. Devour weapon also has vers mastery
It does about the same % of my damage as sivara polearm
devour prob better if we take in account the healing
But with blighreaper stats
but id guess echo one is more dmg
Devour does more damage
devour better if u have uptime ?
Echo cleave is like some of those trinkets where it splits damage but does like % extra per target
So if it does 10k to one target, it'll do 7k to 2, 5k to 3
they nerfed it
he also had hentai one
Took 20% flat nerf then 50% nerf in pvp
not sure how good that one is
Maut wep >>> imo
got the maut normal weapon
and then im done raiding
I have echoing void on a ring and devour has been a bigger part of my damage since the nerfs
need to go heroic...
vs rmpala would the echo void be better
A bit worse
since u prb wont proc it much
Im somehow cursed on trinckets
and echo procs off bleeds (?)
Yeah but if you dont have uptime, you arent building up stacks of echo either
No echo only procs off globals you hit someone
ilevel 450 and still running some 420 WQ trinckets ...
It isnt really a proc, it's a guaranteed stack everytime you hit someone
got BiS 465 shoulders Pog
And then everytime you get a new stack, there's a chance to explode
iron jaws +MI
But you need uptime
I have 3x 465 with 2x mi, thinking if I should take the 450 chest with mi as well but my 465 has jungle fury and heart of darkness
Which is kinda pog
is heroic warfront still bugged?
Engi helm is nice af
I got mi bffocus shoulder this week
Bugged? @last trout
It isnt bugged
i need to start grinding arenas
couldnt turn in
and many peole had the same problem
Yeah should have got 1800 but I didnt know it'd be mythic ilvl azerite
in my guild
im playing with w.e healer signs up tbh
rank 1 crucible as major
I was playing feral mage
i cba playing double dps in 2s
Cba playing with lfg hpals who wont press judg on cd and games last 4 min
Feral mage win in 40s gg go next
I think you mentioned it
xD
and used it to stop the other healers cast

honestly
i dont even think he had any
nobody i qd with had any corruptiono so far i think
rng 
lmfao
my friend just showed me
how dead feral is in 2s
on horde na
tony
tony aswell
true
tony half a bitch
need to get rid of ur dog gloves
@clear pulsar a true masterpiece
@obtuse ice ull be able to buy sockets
@maut hc
Anyone have any tips for Feral/Disc play?
Big dam
Priest just gets rolled over and we end up playing from behind all game idk how to prevent that
Be ahead
Great advice
Opener is crucial
Just pop almost everything
and keep the pressure
Clone low target
To put some more pressure
and line up all your cds to do insane dmg
MI + JF + CRUCIBLE + FF
how is the void focus drops in arena/ bg? the reliquary looking ass ones
a lot per hk or depends on how many ppl die
@stray sigil
I don't raid so pvp is my only option
in opener world, never
what do i use as feral in pvp
arena
i have 3x WFR
- some
and incarn vop
am i inting
I have received a few from open world kills.
hmm and u need 200 for 270 socketed gear..
470 socket ya
it goes quick if you raid on top of it tbh
some ppl already got it
but i think they full cleared the raid twice
so yeah
oh man
i havent qd much yet
in like 50 games
i got like 47
uh
37
so its really not that bad
wait so im dumb its almost 100% from wins actually
hmm time to look for a dps
@stray sigil I think 3s is 100% drop rate
2s is like 90%
mega bad
@lime light so I have both echoing void and devour vitality now and this is what it looks like in most games
Echoing void does about the same damage as devour if it's cleaving
Otherwise it's always lower
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u guys so weird
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if you are a furry for a long time you will become one with us
is stars better than void in pvp or
u can dispel stars?
ofc
15-25 k hit
but rppm is low or very random
stars sims high cuz on encounters u r killing boss with 10 stacks
but in pvp u wonโt get that much
Stars is still one of the better corruption procs for sure
versa proc is better corrupt
If healers are just dispeling whenever you got 2 stacks of infinite stars on them, that's a free maledict
like get 2 of them and u will have 1.5k with 40-60% uptime
i have a mastery proc
its def no where near
60% uptime
ur smoking some good ones
Yeah ofc just get the vers proc and have 60% uptime on it ez pz pure skill loot
Nah mate people get what they get, corruption is random af
i want some of what ur having
this is bfa i think id rather get some random bullshit dmg on gear than a proc
random bullshit dmg is bfa in nutshell
why would they trigger differently
its essentially the same proc but different stat
pretty sure it would be coded the same way
15%?
with 2 of them
versa has around 30-40% uptime
Imagine a healer just dispeling cuz you got 2 procs on someone, you get a full sheep, full root, full fear, full maledict on them
on high or nearly high rated arenas, stars are random shit
bfa is all
about random shit
clf flame
breath
shiver
now maut weapon and corruption
all about the game doing dmg for u
Maut weapon is the biggest pog fo sho
u also need to trade mastery for haste for higher rppm if u r playing stars, this corrupt not flexible to play around him, if u have a choice
I do agree that people will prob lean toward the versa on taking damage once they have it but like
Stars isnt awful
like we wouldn't have to switch stats around
i mean id be happy with any corruptiob
LUL
avoidance being a % of your haste? ๐
that was the joke
[6:26 PM] Fuji: i mean id be happy with any corruptiob
tru
all those baboons ww players having 20 corrupted items
and im here with none
pog
dodge kidney
gg
not even the free one? ๐
oof
Avoidance doesnt make u dodge stuff
It's aoe dmg reduc
So affects like
Fof meteor and blade dance
@west laurel what did u say to me
what the FUCK did you just say to me you worthless little shit stain. i've seen dustbunnies with more grit and gumption than your sorry ass
angry bread
if you become a furry for long enough people will kick in your door and re-enact the events of ol' tsar nicholas
really bloody mess that was eh chap
Any of the new essences worth using for Resto druid?
perhaps the minors
i'm not sure how the channeled casts work out in arena
and if they happen to interrupt the nature school
but if they dont interrupt the nature school, that could change things potentially
but currently, i see the same meta majors for rdruids atm
bottom line: need more testing
Are you subbed nuj?
nope
but my friends still play
so sometimes i spectate their games
and just report back findings
I think spirit of preservation minor is worth
Especially if the stacking buff is affected by regrowth
yeah on QE, it affects regrowth's direct heal only
Sory I meant if it's affected by SOTF is what I meant @west oasis
0 hots, 3 stacks and no stacks
Time to heal your PARTNERS
With 3 stacks after og swiftmend
With 0 stacks after og swiftmend
Just naked swiftmend, clicked off grove tending
Same here with 3 stacks
So safe to say it is affected by sotf
Def gonna be the play for rdru rsham and maybe disc
This is a very low mastery set tho for resto
Only 1k
Imagine someone with twice as much mastery, massive regrowths
Yea maybe with that essence + triple depths shadow mend will actually top someone
The play to wipe for 6h on maut
5 stacks of spirit of preservation vs 0 stacks, no hots. Actually doubles the healing of SoTF regrowth
Mine is only rank 1 still
Looks like grand delusion damage is based on max hp
So is eye of corruption
Good
Guardian players wont just be stacking corruption to the ceiling
what major and minor essances are resto druids going to use this season?
i've been using bote+drestagath trinket alongside bite+FF+bite to try to burst non-plate down, is there a better alternative to that in 2s/3s? MW partner if it matters
spirit of pres minor?
@obtuse ice u was right this vers on dmg shit is nutty
i wish QE was updated with the new essence ๐
@stray sigil what u talkin abt
barely won destro warlock
Holy
Mad corruption or did he just smite a hell of a lot?
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Insane dmg for holy
@clear pulsar U think r2 is also worth it or only r3
Dont you need like a ton of rep for r3
You mean the healer one? @last trout
Execute for every one
ye so
U can get like 3/4 * 125 per day
getting that is a pain xD
think those events give u a bit of rep ontop
but I wont grind all events on the map for rep
I think rank 2 is already super worth playing, especially cuz of corruption resist
btw can we already get contracts?
Contracts are inscription recipes you can buy once you're revered
Should be another week or so I think
ye but you can use them also if ur only friendly I think
so will prob pick one up from the AH
Yes
I'm telling you when they'll be available
When people get revered to make and sell it
but there is like no easy way to make rep or
just those dailies and the events you happen to see while doing them
The assaults too
ye but those Ill do anyways ๐
The entire questlines turned up to 2250 rep, then you can get a bit over 3k rep per week from dailies alone, add 500 more if you do the pet battles. The assaults are 1500 for big one, 500 for small one, so either 1k or 1.5k per week, shifting between vale and uldum.
So you can get ~4750 rep a week
ye I prob get more like ~3k a week
I wont do pet battles or do the kill 3 rare quest xD
Poosey
@clear pulsar ausis jid
pet battles = turn strategy for low IQ APES
thats like the candy crash without turn limit in nazjatar xD
Are there any PvE trinckets I would like on feral/resto for arena? Or just use the gladiator ones?
Remote Guidance Device looks like some big burst
The pvp ones are good enough
Remote device's really neat in that it doesnt seem to share cd with your 2nd trinket
So you could use both at the same time
Like a remote device + voodoo doll for instance
Voodoo totem from AD is good for resto, and voodoo doll from underrot
glad to hear the PvP ones are good ๐
so u could do some big pressure with like maledict+remote deveice on resto + crucible
@clear pulsar i have to train u like pokemon now, back in the days u were a normal Alpha Male, now u PVE bitch
I was afk for 3months
And u pve BISH
Now
Sorry cant hear you over these nzoth whispers
Disgusting
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feral dmg is so fucking shit now
cant do anything against mws
like some orc mw
good luck killing that shit with short stuns
and trinket
idk they dont make that big a difference anymore after the nerfs
im scared to queue arena this season since it fucks up my mood so badly every time
cant even get to 1.8k jesus I wanna jump off a bridge
play rdru
inflation last season was real since 2.4k is 1.6k now
u were playing with double tank trinket?
I wasnt
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bro feral isnt that bad i think issue is you tbh
its same as every season i would say
but its sometimes anoying
but overall, its viable
nothing special
Idiotferal been stomping ppl as destro feral hpal 4 sure
found some decent pala and 1.8k now
that dude saying feral is so bad he cant get 1800 
I guess healer makes a big difference
good for you
what was same as before
MI IJ traits
major crucible/bote rank 3/conflict
minor breath of the dying, lucid, crucible, conflict
still see everyone using flame
flames are shit compare to botd esp at r3
gonna try botd too now that its r2
just use it everytime enemy is >80% hp
doing uldum dailies just so I can get it to rank 3 some day ๐ฆ
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revered already xD
wtf?
Memory conflict feels nice too..
@obtuse ice memory major?
@quartz marsh just off the facts that flame stacks are purgeable and the dots from the major and minor are both dispelable, while breath isn't dispelable and potentially you can use it every 15s, I'd say it's deffo worth a try yeah
I think you simply need a 10 corruption resist tho and breath is the best of those @obtuse ice
Unless you're unlucky af and only got shit corruption
(ik i dont have many traits) but what would be the best i could make out of this situation?
21% reduced cd on berserk? is that bad
Berserk is a useless cd
Nazjatar follower quests
ah, doable in 1 day?
I think you'll want breath/flame/conflict
As your 3 essences
Swapping around which one is major or minor
Depending on game
Rank 8 cloak
hmm
i got shoudlers from hc warfront
1 ij vs endless hunger (360 vers)
would be my only ij
vers better right ?
thats what im thinkin cuz
1 ij is ass
but now for the meme part
wrf or gushing
LUL
wfr is soo dog for pvp
Yeah wfr is biggest trash
Oh yeah
Bn
@vestal citrus is guardian dead? Whats your thoughts?
what corruption do you think rdruid will end up wanting?
curious for both
I feel like in 2s right now i don't have the throughput to heal damage
he's also playing with chunli i believe
who is insanely geared
and insanely good and a ww
so
hard to dps with a dh a lot of matches
most of the ones I've played with just tunnel healers
Hey guys , i just hit rival in 2vs2 and i have a question
If i keep loosing can i De-rank to challenger?
I went over 40 a few games to test out whether 8% leech was worth or not
And some games thing from beyond didnt proc at all for like 2-3 mins
Often enough I could root it without much issue
But some games it randomly spawned 2 right on top of me
Insta 300k damage
bro that guy mustve had over 100 cuz my ff bleed was hitting him. for 36k
lol
i bit flame ff bite and he died to ff bleed LMAO
he took like 100k+ from ff bleed alone
breath vs flame major whats better
i see ppl using both not sure now
I played with breath a few games and it feels weird
On one hand it's more dmg on the meter
On the other hand it doesn't feel very impactful if you're trying to use it above 80% to reset cd
Since flame you can save the 2 and 3 stack for big burst when they're low
breath would be a bigger opener
might be better as feral disc idk
but breath minor feels good enough
I think it'll be a good alternative vs spam purge where bote wouldnt be as great
Like ele shams
and i dont think flame minor is better than breath minor
Yeah flame minor def not better
sounds like hot trash idk
It procs when you use yours as well, you are your own ally brother
Or bro hear me out
does it or we assume blissard did it that way
Unbound force major
no
Ofc it does you can just test it
Raid
ya but is it same way as clf
Yeah
ya cba
Same thing, drops from last boss each wing
?
how much is it nerfed
Wasnt nerfed when a dk hit me with it 2 days ago
mehh its physical dmg
Yeah
Bro for real tho now
No meme, worldvein major kinda pumps
Unbound force is meme ofc but
Worldvein vs static teams
i.e. not mages
It's 4600 agi
Even if only for the bite frenzy bite combo
LOL
na its shit brother
A crit bite with worldvein major is a good bit bigger than a crit bite with bote up
it loses valuebi just get feared to africa
Nah like



