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badge vs insg?
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damn that gear oof
the mog is 
he is mythic raider
raiding 
@vestal citrus
are you guys running incarnation or soul of the forest?
same im only 73 ooooof
that content is...
why u hating the boy?
hating? Why would we I want his neck and gear ๐
not hating just making fun of ppl that spam islands so much >;)
incarn only vs mage rogue in 2s
@lime light my cloak is lvl 3

At least islands give you actual power progression on your character
i have 3xrank 5 and 1x rank 6
Do 10h of arenas per week get 1 piece of loot
is island cap worth anything?
Island cap is big ap
i guess iam gonna do the cap tomorrow
ye cap is easy and fast
and boring
Bro stfu the scaling on mobs is super minimal
Like on my 410 lock mob had 340k hp, on 450 main it was 370k
It's 100% unnoticeable
ye, so almost no scalling
ye scaling is alot too low compared to the power creep
thrall is not a cake with a total ungeared mage
i meant, scalling wise
like they scale mythic0
M2 ecc
every patch
i mean, they buff it overall
pvp season lasts 8 months roughly
so xpac is coming september earliest
Fak
so i need to grind rating next season for conflict and strife essence and i'm ms guardian, os resto
how hard/easy is it to do as guardian
and if i run guardian, what pvp talents should i use
noob balance guy here messing about in pvp, used to kiting on other casters/range dps but finding it way harder to keep consistent distance esp from rogues/warrs - is it just a get good situation and deal with it until skills improve? or is there some hidden balance secret haha
20h a week
Is fucking insanity
You're crazy brother
Imagine
Being toxic
With pve
???
Just cuz you washed and couldnt play boomie to save your life
For 3 seasons straight

guardian hpal 2s with echoing void t3 hmm 
anyone know if you can get rank 2 conflict and strife this week?
Sure
for guardian on arena ? ๐
be gone
What is the purpose of this
around 8k damgur every hit with 25% chance, feral aa is pretty insane
on top of that
big vers and some mastery
it's kinda trash for feral arena tbh
why
cuz u r not guardian to tank all shit and have 100% uptime for most aa hits
but your aa is way faster
it's just 0.8-0.9
1 gcd - 1 attack, not that fast
like compare to stars, echo and lash - it's not that good in pvp
it's not even spec/class unique, imagine some dk with their hp pull getting this from his weekly m_
and does it have tiers? i.e tier 3 with some 3.5% hp
The same can be said about every effect tho
"You just dont have the uptime to get 100% benefit"
not true
while u kiting in bear form
u r not landing aas
but u still can proc some infinite stars
or lash
The issue with most other effects
while ur hunter killing
Is that they cleave and break cc
Infinite stars has negative scaling with multiple targets
So everytime you brutal slash, or bleed an off target, you're "risking" procing a low damage hit on off target who doesnt have stacks to make it hit hard, which is 1 less stack on main target
Yeah
Maut weapon will be the play
It also has versa mastery
And you can get it from mythic super early
the question is, does it have tiers
so u want to get it from m+ cache
with higher tier than raid one
every raid tier can be obtained through m+ cache as blizzard said
also. does pvp chest provide you 100% corrupt chance same as pve one?
No idea
Infinite stars is disspellable so it is bad
jebaited for double male
Not every raid weapon corruption can be obtained in m+ cache
445
Wow...
was i not supposed to get any Burgeoning Furor this week?
I thought the chest was supposed to be the same as any S3 week
They did not nerf guardian for season start? hahahah
@last trout pretty sure they hotfixed echoing voids to split dmg when cleaving
So not that great for aoe
They did but it was sneaky nerf so not everyone know it and still think it is aoe corruption
Who cares it one shot u in pvp
someone on NA realm?
who plays atm or has access to the game
bears from NA in guardian chat report Den mother no longer increasing bears max hp by 15%
THey say only works for allies
someone who can check on NA?
Actually a pretty decent nerf
have come to reality
Very little to surv but
It's a pretty decent nerf
well deserved
and grats on your expectation of seeing bear nerf "very likely" ๐
i just hope its intentional
and they dont hotfix it
Haha yeah I hope so too
but i dont see any possible way of it being unintentional
you need to literally modify the ability
dont see how that can happen by accident
patch notes hotfixes usually show up
later on durign the day or tomorrow
we might see that adressed
it is really in Blizz benefit to show a bear nerf on the patch notes considering the fact that HUNDREDS if not more players have been providing feedback on bear opness on forums and elsewhere
thats what they did the the mechagon healing card. Put a nerf and they showed the hotfix
lets wait and see the den mother one
it's ironic how it seems this ability has always been supposed to work that way... cuz look at the desription :"
You bolster nearby allies within 15 yards, increasing their maximum health by 15%."
it says "nearby allies"
druid shouldnt count anyway ๐
it comes just on time before s4. I am 99% sure it's totally intentional
whether we see it in notes or not
Cheh
Just curious if any has tested Bramble Damage.
its bugged only for
2nd boss of nyalotha the reflect mechanic
it shouldnt be broken elsewhere
Just curious
fun patch inc
GM
expect to see it
in the hotfixes which are done around resets
which means in 10-20 hours max
will be absurd if it is not intentional
guardian nerf was expected
not yet
i mean the guardian?
its like the red card i guess
from mechagon
first they implement the fix and then notes come hours later
like compilation
i mean what is the logic of den mother being unintentional?
who the heck is gonna tune that and disable it
just by accident?
stuff like that doesnt just happen to a specific honor talent
i was playing alt dk today
and it kinda feels like, death stike
not doin that great anymore
or its a gear issue
not sure yet
pvp dummys
are bugged
since ages
first test u can do, is your heals crits are 200% not 150%
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@karmic stag I CALLED IT
I said guardian nerfs were the one thing happening for sure
If there was any changes it would be guardian nerfs
They nerfed protector of the pack, damage redirected now is no longer diminished by damage reduction effects
Also brambles no longer absorbs damage from allies affected by protector of the pack
Along with den mother no longer applying to the bear who has it talented
Druid Bros...?


meanwhile rogues and mages untouced l u l
and ww buffed l u l
Guys, my friend, who i queued 2s with switch from rogue to shadow. so instead of resto rogue, he wants to play resto shadow.
We tried to do games today. And is it me or its stupidly fucking bad. he cant put an enemy under 70% hp FUCKING EVER. So i can only hope to out mana the other healer after a gazilion hours
are we failing something here?
glad to see guardian nerfed to the ground
not cuz of anything particular but cuz it simply isn't fair
toward the other 2 dudu specs
and especially not fair towards other tank specs
Den mother nerf was unnecessary :(
thing is
with that extra 15% hp slapped on top of all bonus stamina, mastery bonus hp etc etc bear had way too much passive survivability
its not that its immortal or something
in fact i've said it previously
Vengeance DH and blood DK can take much more punishment when allowed to perform their rotation and not stunlocked
bear was just way too sturdy even during a stunlock / cc
season 4 is pretty much the last season of BFA right?
blizz posted schedule with 30 following weeks
of loot pvp
i guess it means its last one
a pretty damn long one then....
what?
have you had 1 year long ones?
right
so if the sesason is 30 weeks from now on
it means shadowlands is definitely coming
some time in prolly November
cant see it happening earlier than October
always early november
roughly
i cant see the % based corrupted gear lasting much longer in pvp. Myself anda blood dk have been roaming uldum insta killing folks, sometimes groups with em
well season 4 has officially begun
no matter how long it lasts
its epic fail on blizz part
even if they nerf it in an hour
it is broken for 500k hp warlock too
all high hp classes
just imagine a priest stamina buff + DK/Lock in arena
500k hp monster with that
almost tank health
Yeah its beyond busted. Finished some 3s as guard/udk/disc and we were ending matches within 20seconds, and it's not like we're any good, borderline handicapped if anything lol. All 3 of us cleaving for 100k+ and the anima burst killed most players as soon as we engaged
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....
Reminds me of the vengeance days and one shotting players as a tank lmao
vengeance is utterly immortal in pvp but 1v1 mainly
even more immortal than pre-nerf bear
but thats 1v1 cuz it can selfheal and utilize sustain
when 2+ come it falls short cuz its susceptible to cc
blood dk is same
blood dk feels like paper to assass rogue when stunlocked
low armor for a tank, 0 passive dmg reduction etc etc
btw echoing void will truly hit rogues. Even if they nerf it imagine stacks breaking rogues out of stealth
Meant the vengeance spell tanks had during cata? That would give tanks 40k+ atk power lol
Nah
People have pulsing or constant aoe damage already
Certain specs
Vanish gives you a grace period where it cant be broken
ye but you just attack a player
And resetting isnt really a major part of rogue gameplay in arena
and his 10 EV stacks begin to nuke
Unfortunately
Wonder when the forums will explode
checked 5 mins ago when you mentioned it here
was nothing
give it 4-5 days
infinite stars got another 25% nerf right?
adjustments are for sure
i just hope they dont completely disable corruption effects in pvp
as it will be incredibly underwhleming for the playerbase
wf/tf equivalent and it is disabled in pvp....
Corruption debuff needs to be more severe in arena. Keep the strong ability but you're risking a lot to use something like the 18% aoe cone. Would be boring seeing some of it go, been having a blast escaping the debuffs while fighting
or the safety was it to just put a modifier like on azerite traits...
corruption effects 50% weaker in arena
problem solved
....
idk
ye me too
indd
tentacles crits for 130k rn
Just nerf rmx by 50% :^)
halp im small brain how do i do the balance burst rotation in pvp and do i take non-pve talents other than incarn?
Truly disguisting
anyone know if weapons from pvp cap can get some kind of corrupted?
anyone know
if u can get the thingys from arenas
for proffesion like insta
or u need to do something
suck few pve bosses or some shit?
@vestal citrus ye i know, but u dont have to do any pre quests? They just drop even if u dont have proffesions?
Juice necros on big worlocks inc 
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lock = ranged DH
might be yes
After 8.3 guardian pvp talents nerf, he still viable in arenas?
seems pretty bonkers if you can stack echoing void
played vs a team last night after hotfixes went live and 55% of his damage was echoing void
Looks good
what has been nerfed with guardian?
Damage caused by Protector of the Pack (PvP Talent) can no longer be absorbed or reduced by damage reduction effects. Brambles will no longer deal damage after suffering damage from Protector of the Pack (PvP Talent). Den Motherโs (PvP Talent) increased maximum health effect no longer affects the Guardian Druid.
In 2v2 or 3v3?
idk if id call it good anymore
anyone has maut weapon yet?
curious to see dmg breakdown in arenas with it
like would it be more dmg than shivering lance was
only procing off autos seem kinda troll
vs shit like rmp that weapon sound sorta bad
well not bad
but impractical
Yeah impractical
But the other alternative cleaves so breaks trap/poly
I havent been to the raid yet
good thing it as bis stats on it
so its not too bad
means not having to farm waycrest forever again
pog
It's already been nerfed twice I think
Since PTR
Costs more corruption than original, and lower proc rate

ah ya was 50% right
they knew
feral was gonna be over the top

i faced assa disc in 2s yesterday
its still the most braindamaged shit
omegalul
maxlol just pressing evasion 1st gcd and i die through walls and bear

I faced greentko and envious in 3s, tsg, the DK has cut of skill and echoing void

35k dps
i facedd some
r1 ww
that took 10mins to kill feral mw
and he spat on me
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
LOL
was a bit confused ngl
Maybe it was a spit in admiration
hope it was
cuz i played a lot better than he did but in the end his class is superior
very unfortunate game
i already hated ww last patch Xd
we were happy about guardian nerf cuz of it ruining pvp
now what...
every class who gets proper corruption is utterly broken
what a mess....
thats day 2 of expansion
some classes dont need corruption to be utterly broken
cough ww destro rogue mage cough
DK was actually buffed btw
Cough feral
but u will notice they doin more dmg on u
it got a buff pure dps wise too via VOP buff
VoP
crucible was way way better
but iam gonna try vop tho
cuz with 3x magus
it might be a little something
they get buffed with mastery too
@forest kite not 100%
cuz magus will cast frosbolt if there is no slow
on target
if there is, he will cast shadow bolt
i think they cast frost only 1st cast, no?
Ty
if they didnt change it, they cast frostbolt if there isnt a slow on target
otherwise its shadowbolt
hmm but with this build
dk player
u have only 2 honor talents left
gross
Take cyclone

alting in bfa 
ye i know
cant imagine farming essences on multiple characters
Is balance really weak in arena compared to the competitive casters or am I j ust seeing things wrong?
balance is poop
Any Guardian FC's that hang out in here? What are you talents are you changing up for the Non-Flag/Team Fight games now with the changes from yesterday?
It looks like a lateral move but with Corruption consequences.
does it proc pvp
8% leech is equivalent to a tank trinket, I got that on my feral
Does about the same healing as leader of the pack most games
lol?
Nice
Where is vision darkness pls
Guys... I'm getting destroyed this season. Doing the grind to 1600 for conflict and strife, have done it a couple times on other characters but never found it this tough. On resto, I know it's the start of the season so everyone's in the same cr but I'm getting melted 100-0 every game. Hard stuck st 1500. What do I do?
First week of season
EVerybody starts at 0
Including every gladiator and rank 1 team
Give it a few
Also you should mention what matchups kill you
Look at damage meter see what is causing it
Idk there is nothing that can be said to a question "what do I do I'm getting melted"
I mean I'm 30 losses to 100 wins. So most matchups.
I guess I'll give it a few then.
Obvs meant other way around lol
Some guy on lock discord saying you now get 8 tokens for conflict and strife rank 3 at 1k rating. Fat disgusting liar?
I am dh main now too @rigid linden
Have to be
This is the only corruption proc I've got
At all
Out of 4 characters
Yeah
Can coruption proc on gear in the raid
It can proc on any gear that's been updated or introduced this season
i.e. world quests, dungeons, raids, pvp
It's the equivalent of titanforging
Gear from old sources that werent updated, like old warfronts, the invasions, that type of thing, those can still titanforge up to 455, and cant corrupt
Okay and is pvp cap corupted 100% like m+ chest?
I'm not sure
Oki well i guess we Will all be doing wq spam till we get corupted bs then lul
Basically
Well not the one of this week
But I belive
M+10 corrupted
And 2100 pvp + chest gives corrupted
what max chest will be? For 2.1 or 2.4, was thinking about 2.4 since u will get highest reward for +15 in m+
Max chest has always been 2400
i mean about first season week
cuz previously u was needed push 2.1 , but i remember it was w/o mid season week, so, before hc week
what is the pvp conquest reward this week on EU
is it random or fixed?
sample reward shows as a 440 weapon
can i know what it will be or it rolls random?
so the one shown the as "sample reward"
is indeed the actual one
The cap rewards are on a schedule
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23275631 @karmic stag scroll down to see
ty
i am kinda confused cuz as far as i remember
there've been times when next to conquest bar it has shown me a reward
and when talking to the npc for completing the conquest cap
he has givem me different stuff
but i might be mistaken
Oh this is enchant
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Bear PvP is funny ๐ฑ
No
Just Nuking Them Down with Dots and Ev
in fact DH tank would be way way better than a bear with EV
cuz he gets 30% leech in meta
...
True...
They will 100% Do
balance pvpv starlord or incarn?
Incarn
What essences should I use as a rdruid in 2s/ 3s?
got what he deserved
i did some 2s, and damgur kinda insane
even if ppl dont have corruption
kinda like it
but
-warlock teams so fucking boring
-corruption means 2x dmg, even as healer
-hpal honor talent needs nerf, the one with holy light dmg
monks seems to be super good early on, but in 40-50% damp not that great
Monkgodxlol
and they are prolly easy to kill as feral/assa
maybe dh
and necro with bursting sores, seems insane
less overall dmg, but the burst is rly good
blizzard pls ๐ฆ
so you pretty much have to have one of the op kruptions to do well in arena?
at least wqs can proc them too
ofc now not everyone has it but eventually
idk its hard to say if, they should disable corruption or just put a mod on it
like for some comps extra dmg would be fine
but for others not rly
would be nice if they just added like pvp power or resilience back and you could pvp and get gear thats more effective against other players than pve gear
Pvp gear corrupts as well
So idk how that would help
Pretty sure weekly pvp chest is guaranteed corrupted
ya but u still get 1 piece every 20 games in pvp lul
Is balance viable for arena? Anyone familiar with any high rating boomie streamers?
anyone here good with macros?
#show [talent:2/3] Wild charge
/cast [nostance:4] !Stag Form
/cast Wild Charge
is what im working on
trying to make it so i can spam it and it doesn't unshift me from stag
@lime light monks are easy to kill I always struggle vs WWs - they fury fist and I need to switch focus
It isn't fun when you've done everything that gives gear for 30h total this week and havent got anything but the fucking bracers
Un4ch
It is the first week though
Should let it play out see how it is with everyone having corruption gear
Might be a super fast and fun meta
how do you all think resto druid is going to cope with all this random damage coming in from the corruptions? Played some arenas tonight and corruption was top damage. It appears alot of people are taking rsham which just ruins out throughput via purging
ive tried that but it just feels they stop purging if only lb is the hot
really struggling vs purge comps, so you would recommend play them slower and keep lining?
thats not a bad shout the counter pressure to stop the purges
do you know the cost of purge?
mana wise - wowhead keeps taking me to classic and says its 10% of mana which it cannot be as they spam it for days
Wut
No
Purge is way cheaper than 10%
It's cheaper than any heal resto has
Yeah like 1.3 1.5
so it is cheaper for them to purge then us to apply hots
neither are we xD
is it worth taking nourish?
so we get a heal and a hot?
I dont think the way to achieve a fun meta is by adding random procs on gear which is most effectively farmed outside of pvp and end up dealing 10-15% of someone's damage over the course of a game, mostly being very bursty procs
who woulda thought corruption was gonna be a shit system 
Yeah pvp gear procs corruption too but there will still be the gear diff between average pvp player and fully mythic geared one wont there
Hey guys! ๐ To get a a chance for a heroic azerite piece in the weekly chest do I have to push 1,6 again? Or did they increase it?
That one dh in godly pve gear? Yeah that's gonna be me baby
https://gyazo.com/3e4f99f5eaa4a6b7fabf07887886fd87 pretty cool playing against a DK and you dont know if you are just going to cop a 200k twilight dev in a stun and die
..
When playing vs WW+healer - Do you ever focus the WW? If I get them low they just fist of fury and I cant attack them - or Karma
as feral
hello can someone reccomend a resto druid to watch in the current patch? or are there any video guides somewhere? (wowhead link just says a lot of stuff i already know)
i dont think so cloning fists is a correct play, only if he stops them and kick
or u tank like 3/4 of it
before u land a clone, since push back is pretty big at this point
Feint > bear form
Every melee has a better way of dealing with fists
It's unbelievable
Dh can literally just zoom out of it at any point with one of their 4 mobility spells
Feint is literally a better defensive than bear form while rogues also have evasion and cloak
Bear form so good
that memory leak is soo anoying
i wonder when they fix it
randomly after like 1hr, when u playing, game starts stealing whole ram
starting to feel like resto druids just die to mage / rogue in 2v2
anyone have any insights?
Tree is garbage, main thing is hold trinket on blind go until you see combust or vendet, if you dont see either just hold trinket for next kidney all in on you.
mage / rogues if uncontrolled will burst the shit out of you
i dont think ive been able to beat a warlock / healer or mage / rogue team tonight
Get good owo
if they play it right they should win
but it can be beaten bc most donโt play perfect
Elite 475 pog
rogues/mages i only won if i managed to CD survive their burst and let them open on me
as rdruid
then kite like a mofo around a pillar
yes its horrible inefficiency way of doing it
also https://evesux.com/eA6ymiKhU9012418.png is very very good for punishing people training to train you
had a rogue suicide on me with that ๐
any NA wanna carry me to 1400, i am stuck on 1200 because carrying my guildies hardcore
guardian druid here. pretty good.
I just need to get 1400 and i swear i won't touch arena ever again this expanison, por favor.
If you're 1400 you arent pretty good
oh ok.
@rigid linden why is dh the only character of mine that can drop corrupted items
you dont even lose cr below 1500, so if youre stuck 1200 chances are its not only because of guildies
Still not losing rating at 1800 
its not that bad
ive been playing with mw
its kinda awkward imo
had a game vs war rsham he kept incaping to peel himself but made me drop bleeds everytime idk
much better off playing with disc or hpal
I played with one till he left when we lost to some hpal/arms
been doing my first arenas today
everything feels winnable in 2s
destro is aids and ww is aids
disc assa still stupid
havent qd into any dh yet
guardian druid + dh, we rolled until we met resto sham + ass rog
why would u play guardian in 2s
why no lol
the pug dh didn't complain /shrug
well i am already 1400+ now, so not gonna touch arena until next expansion... i hope there's no CnS 2.0,

i mean ig if you like 70% damp games play guard lmao
Fukin hell
too much dmg and mage just polies him and I have to run 24/7
if I go disc, mage freecasts in background
if I go mage, disc does a shit ton of dmg
I suck so hard against frost mages
hate them
fire mages are easy
there a guardian 2s guide?
mostly what i did, was just goin mage mostly with bt ofc, and bite them 
and spam clone whenever u can
u are oom ecc
just to be anoying
xD
yep
with corruption ye
anyone wanna q
blood bw
walking dead?
cuz this guy was soo cluless
and randomly one deag'ing
didnt meet any corrupt guys
except for some shit ret with echoing doing 10% of his dmg
guess theyre all at 2.4k already
faced one assa disc last night
there was a weird lazer beam in the arena
other than that havent face much corrupt or havent noticed it
Blood DKs have risen?
bdk still pretty ass just a gimmick
does conquest cap loot corrupt?
when the healer outdmgs an uhdk at 2.1 you know that shits fucked
giving up on this game
It can @small storm
ok ty
There is a omen of clarity corrupt?
its beyond shit for feral
makes it so next ability u use is 3s reduced
we have like 0 cds LUL
guys
considering the fact there is scaling in pvp combat
dropping ilvl there for a desired effect related to better corruption affixe, better secondary stats
is much more understandable than in pve right?
ye
feral pvp is fun debate me
is pvp cache guaranteed corrupted as well?
yes
thanks
can someone pplease help me
i dont understand how i just get fucking killed instantly in every 2v2 i do.. i feel like i CAN NOT get out of shit
Corruption ๐ค
@clear pulsar U got the weapon from maut? How good is it in PvP?
I dont wanna spend my life doin pve like a pig
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Idk infinite stars kinda dog for pvp
what essences do I got as feral for 2s
I like crucible major + Lucid dreams + Conflict and strife - dont have the 4th slot yet
The healing part of the raid corruption could be pretty crazy in PvP
Bote crucible conflict as major are pretty good depends on the playstyle and whobu facing
Minor always lucid, + crucible/conflict/breath of the dying
I think they play incarn
they are pretty rare xD
boomy is lots of fun atm
im pumping dmg
without corruptions
actually feels like im doing dmg atm
with ppl not running tank trinkets
What comps would you play as bomy this season ? w/ destro/sp/ele/fmage?
vision major?
breath of the dying major
with condesnsed and cns minor
tbf tho im playing with bad team mates xd @obtuse ice
gz
Incarn with vision and big pve gear is scarry
got big pve gear and incarn/achanic pulsar/visionr3 ^^ might try and push a bit today
i just cry cuz i see demon hunter with rank 3 infinite star one shotting ppl
yeah true
this is my gear
Has anyone played frost mage/rdruid after the patch?
With the rise of all the ww heroes the comp feels like dogshit now
Niiice
Where are feral
Since I raided a bit
I might have lowered the parse mwahahha
I have all of those @obtuse ice @lime light
Echoing void infinite stars and maut weapon
Havent played arena yet tho
Gonna test today
I think echoing void is the best
But devour vitality is very reliable and heals u
i literally dont have any corruption on my main ferakl
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