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obtuse ice
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what's your ig name glyph

last trout
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badge vs insg?

lime light
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๐Ÿ˜ณ

last trout
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damn that gear oof

lime light
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the mog is PogChamp

obtuse ice
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Wait glyph EU

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no

lime light
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lvl 5 back

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wiping on vision

last trout
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spamming islands oof

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level 76 neck

lime light
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he is mythic raider

last trout
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raiding pepekarp

west laurel
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@vestal citrus

last trout
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are you guys running incarnation or soul of the forest?

west laurel
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how many islands have you done this week

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WFR wannabe glyph kappa

last trout
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I still need to do one more island oof

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for the weekly bonus

west laurel
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same im only 73 ooooof

last trout
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that content is...

lime light
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why u hating the boy?

last trout
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hating? Why would we I want his neck and gear ๐Ÿ™‚

west laurel
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not hating just making fun of ppl that spam islands so much >;)

last trout
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are u guys running incarnation?

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or just soul of the forest

lime light
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incarn only vs mage rogue in 2s

clear pulsar
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@lime light my cloak is lvl 3

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At least islands give you actual power progression on your character

lime light
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i have 3xrank 5 and 1x rank 6

clear pulsar
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Do 10h of arenas per week get 1 piece of loot

lime light
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is island cap worth anything?

clear pulsar
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Island cap is big ap

lime light
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i guess iam gonna do the cap tomorrow

clear pulsar
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You do it in like 15 mins

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It's super easy

last trout
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ye cap is easy and fast

lime light
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so its not scalled?

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like everything every patch

last trout
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and boring

clear pulsar
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Bro stfu the scaling on mobs is super minimal

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Like on my 410 lock mob had 340k hp, on 450 main it was 370k

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It's 100% unnoticeable

lime light
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ye, so almost no scalling

last trout
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ye scaling is alot too low compared to the power creep

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thrall is not a cake with a total ungeared mage

lime light
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i meant, scalling wise

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like they scale mythic0

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M2 ecc

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every patch

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i mean, they buff it overall

last trout
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ah I see ๐Ÿ˜„

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doesnt seem so

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so Im by no means an island expert xD

clear pulsar
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Ah that's what you mean

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Yeah I think it does

obtuse ice
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Nah

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versa too good

forest kite
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pvp season lasts 8 months roughly

clear pulsar
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No

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Ok

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Yeah 30 weeks is the cap schedule

forest kite
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so xpac is coming september earliest

rigid linden
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Fak

marble oak
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so i need to grind rating next season for conflict and strife essence and i'm ms guardian, os resto

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how hard/easy is it to do as guardian

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and if i run guardian, what pvp talents should i use

stiff ore
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noob balance guy here messing about in pvp, used to kiting on other casters/range dps but finding it way harder to keep consistent distance esp from rogues/warrs - is it just a get good situation and deal with it until skills improve? or is there some hidden balance secret haha

clear pulsar
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20h a week

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Is fucking insanity

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You're crazy brother

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Imagine

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Being toxic

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With pve

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???

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Just cuz you washed and couldnt play boomie to save your life

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For 3 seasons straight

forest kite
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guardian hpal 2s with echoing void t3 hmm thinkat3

quasi lynx
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anyone know if you can get rank 2 conflict and strife this week?

obtuse ice
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Sure

lime light
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this weapon seems to be insane

rigid basin
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for guardian on arena ? ๐Ÿ˜„

lime light
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be gone

obtuse ice
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What is the purpose of this

lime light
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around 8k damgur every hit with 25% chance, feral aa is pretty insane

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on top of that

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big vers and some mastery

slate nimbus
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it's kinda trash for feral arena tbh

lime light
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why

slate nimbus
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cuz u r not guardian to tank all shit and have 100% uptime for most aa hits

lime light
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but your aa is way faster

slate nimbus
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it's just 0.8-0.9

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1 gcd - 1 attack, not that fast

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like compare to stars, echo and lash - it's not that good in pvp

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it's not even spec/class unique, imagine some dk with their hp pull getting this from his weekly m_

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and does it have tiers? i.e tier 3 with some 3.5% hp

clear pulsar
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The same can be said about every effect tho

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"You just dont have the uptime to get 100% benefit"

slate nimbus
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not true

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while u kiting in bear form

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u r not landing aas

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but u still can proc some infinite stars

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or lash

clear pulsar
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The issue with most other effects

slate nimbus
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while ur hunter killing

clear pulsar
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Is that they cleave and break cc

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Infinite stars has negative scaling with multiple targets

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So everytime you brutal slash, or bleed an off target, you're "risking" procing a low damage hit on off target who doesnt have stacks to make it hit hard, which is 1 less stack on main target

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Yeah

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Maut weapon will be the play

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It also has versa mastery

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And you can get it from mythic super early

slate nimbus
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the question is, does it have tiers

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so u want to get it from m+ cache

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with higher tier than raid one

clear pulsar
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No

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It doesnt and it might be unique to the weapon

slate nimbus
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every raid tier can be obtained through m+ cache as blizzard said

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also. does pvp chest provide you 100% corrupt chance same as pve one?

clear pulsar
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No idea

pearl halo
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Infinite stars is disspellable so it is bad

lime light
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Dispeling stars to get double dicked

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couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

slate nimbus
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jebaited for double male

pearl halo
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Not every raid weapon corruption can be obtained in m+ cache

last trout
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I thought u could get every hmm

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And yes PvP chest ist always corrupted aswell

obtuse ice
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Really

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Some good 445 corrupted gear is waiting me

lime light
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445

obtuse ice
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Yhea

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What is wrong with it

lime light
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445 is kid ilvl

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Iam 470 already

obtuse ice
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Wow...

last trout
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@lime light stop dreaming ๐Ÿ˜›

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echoing void guardian bear in visions could be funny bearThinking

prisma robin
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was i not supposed to get any Burgeoning Furor this week?

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I thought the chest was supposed to be the same as any S3 week

forest kite
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They did not nerf guardian for season start? hahahah

lime light
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๐Ÿ˜Ÿ

clear pulsar
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@last trout pretty sure they hotfixed echoing voids to split dmg when cleaving

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So not that great for aoe

pearl halo
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They did but it was sneaky nerf so not everyone know it and still think it is aoe corruption

obtuse ice
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Who cares it one shot u in pvp

forest kite
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echoing is still op

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everywhere

karmic stag
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someone on NA realm?

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who plays atm or has access to the game

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bears from NA in guardian chat report Den mother no longer increasing bears max hp by 15%

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THey say only works for allies

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someone who can check on NA?

clear pulsar
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That is correct @karmic stag

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Den mother currently does not affect my own character

karmic stag
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ok

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i think our expectetations

clear pulsar
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Actually a pretty decent nerf

karmic stag
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have come to reality

clear pulsar
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Nerfs anima damage

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Nerfs bear survivability

karmic stag
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nerfs everything

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BIG TIME

clear pulsar
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Very little to surv but

karmic stag
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nerfs all bear self healing cuz its max hp based

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nerfs anima dmg

clear pulsar
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True

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Yeah

karmic stag
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glad

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it happened

clear pulsar
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It's a pretty decent nerf

karmic stag
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well deserved

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and grats on your expectation of seeing bear nerf "very likely" ๐Ÿ˜„

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i just hope its intentional

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and they dont hotfix it

clear pulsar
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Haha yeah I hope so too

karmic stag
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but i dont see any possible way of it being unintentional

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you need to literally modify the ability

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dont see how that can happen by accident

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patch notes hotfixes usually show up

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later on durign the day or tomorrow

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we might see that adressed

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it is really in Blizz benefit to show a bear nerf on the patch notes considering the fact that HUNDREDS if not more players have been providing feedback on bear opness on forums and elsewhere

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thats what they did the the mechagon healing card. Put a nerf and they showed the hotfix

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lets wait and see the den mother one

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it's ironic how it seems this ability has always been supposed to work that way... cuz look at the desription :"
You bolster nearby allies within 15 yards, increasing their maximum health by 15%."

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it says "nearby allies"

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druid shouldnt count anyway ๐Ÿ˜„

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it comes just on time before s4. I am 99% sure it's totally intentional

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whether we see it in notes or not

obtuse ice
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Cheh

neon storm
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Just curious if any has tested Bramble Damage.

karmic stag
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its bugged only for

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2nd boss of nyalotha the reflect mechanic

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it shouldnt be broken elsewhere

obtuse ice
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Just curious

obtuse ice
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oof

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On gelubaba stream

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First dmg Echoing void 600k

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Rake 500k

livid wasp
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fun patch inc

plucky basin
karmic stag
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from who is that from?

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@plucky basin

plucky basin
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GM

karmic stag
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expect to see it

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in the hotfixes which are done around resets

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which means in 10-20 hours max

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will be absurd if it is not intentional

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guardian nerf was expected

lime light
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so are there any patch notes

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or everything stealth nerfed

karmic stag
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not yet

lime light
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i mean the guardian?

karmic stag
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its like the red card i guess

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from mechagon

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first they implement the fix and then notes come hours later

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like compilation

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i mean what is the logic of den mother being unintentional?

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who the heck is gonna tune that and disable it

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just by accident?

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stuff like that doesnt just happen to a specific honor talent

lime light
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i was playing alt dk today

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and it kinda feels like, death stike

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not doin that great anymore

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or its a gear issue

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not sure yet

karmic stag
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should heal 7%

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of hp minimum

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you can easily test it on pvp target dummy

lime light
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pvp dummys

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are bugged

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since ages

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first test u can do, is your heals crits are 200% not 150%

karmic stag
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๐Ÿ˜„

obtuse ice
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Dummy @lime light

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๐Ÿ˜ณ

clear pulsar
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@karmic stag I CALLED IT

clear pulsar
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I said guardian nerfs were the one thing happening for sure

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If there was any changes it would be guardian nerfs

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They nerfed protector of the pack, damage redirected now is no longer diminished by damage reduction effects

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Also brambles no longer absorbs damage from allies affected by protector of the pack

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Along with den mother no longer applying to the bear who has it talented

worthy dawn
surreal heron
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unluck

edgy oxide
clear pulsar
sleek ravine
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meanwhile rogues and mages untouced l u l

stray sigil
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and ww buffed l u l

blissful belfry
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Guys, my friend, who i queued 2s with switch from rogue to shadow. so instead of resto rogue, he wants to play resto shadow.

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We tried to do games today. And is it me or its stupidly fucking bad. he cant put an enemy under 70% hp FUCKING EVER. So i can only hope to out mana the other healer after a gazilion hours

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are we failing something here?

karmic stag
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glad to see guardian nerfed to the ground

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not cuz of anything particular but cuz it simply isn't fair

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toward the other 2 dudu specs

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and especially not fair towards other tank specs

plucky basin
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Den mother nerf was unnecessary :(

karmic stag
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thing is

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with that extra 15% hp slapped on top of all bonus stamina, mastery bonus hp etc etc bear had way too much passive survivability

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its not that its immortal or something

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in fact i've said it previously

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Vengeance DH and blood DK can take much more punishment when allowed to perform their rotation and not stunlocked

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bear was just way too sturdy even during a stunlock / cc

clear pulsar
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No nerf to bear is ever gonna be unnecessary

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It's a shallow boring stupid spec

karmic stag
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season 4 is pretty much the last season of BFA right?

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blizz posted schedule with 30 following weeks

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of loot pvp

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i guess it means its last one

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a pretty damn long one then....

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what?

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have you had 1 year long ones?

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right

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so if the sesason is 30 weeks from now on

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it means shadowlands is definitely coming

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some time in prolly November

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cant see it happening earlier than October

surreal heron
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always early november

karmic stag
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when do pre-patches happen usually

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a month before expansion goes live right?

surreal heron
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roughly

karmic stag
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kk

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thx

plucky basin
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i cant see the % based corrupted gear lasting much longer in pvp. Myself anda blood dk have been roaming uldum insta killing folks, sometimes groups with em

karmic stag
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well season 4 has officially begun

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no matter how long it lasts

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its epic fail on blizz part

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even if they nerf it in an hour

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it is broken for 500k hp warlock too

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all high hp classes

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just imagine a priest stamina buff + DK/Lock in arena

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500k hp monster with that

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almost tank health

plucky basin
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Yeah its beyond busted. Finished some 3s as guard/udk/disc and we were ending matches within 20seconds, and it's not like we're any good, borderline handicapped if anything lol. All 3 of us cleaving for 100k+ and the anima burst killed most players as soon as we engaged

lime light
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๐Ÿ™‚

karmic stag
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....

plucky basin
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Reminds me of the vengeance days and one shotting players as a tank lmao

karmic stag
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vengeance is utterly immortal in pvp but 1v1 mainly

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even more immortal than pre-nerf bear

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but thats 1v1 cuz it can selfheal and utilize sustain

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when 2+ come it falls short cuz its susceptible to cc

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blood dk is same

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blood dk feels like paper to assass rogue when stunlocked

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low armor for a tank, 0 passive dmg reduction etc etc

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btw echoing void will truly hit rogues. Even if they nerf it imagine stacks breaking rogues out of stealth

plucky basin
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Meant the vengeance spell tanks had during cata? That would give tanks 40k+ atk power lol

karmic stag
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it will destroy rogue rotation and playstyle

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ah ye

clear pulsar
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Nah

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People have pulsing or constant aoe damage already

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Certain specs

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Vanish gives you a grace period where it cant be broken

karmic stag
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ye but you just attack a player

clear pulsar
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And resetting isnt really a major part of rogue gameplay in arena

karmic stag
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and his 10 EV stacks begin to nuke

clear pulsar
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Unfortunately

karmic stag
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btw

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feral druid with proper honor talent

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can also have very high hp in bear form

plucky basin
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Wonder when the forums will explode

karmic stag
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checked 5 mins ago when you mentioned it here

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was nothing

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give it 4-5 days

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infinite stars got another 25% nerf right?

lime light
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i dont think so infinite stars are that good for pvp

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as they are for pve

karmic stag
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adjustments are for sure

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i just hope they dont completely disable corruption effects in pvp

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as it will be incredibly underwhleming for the playerbase

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wf/tf equivalent and it is disabled in pvp....

plucky basin
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Corruption debuff needs to be more severe in arena. Keep the strong ability but you're risking a lot to use something like the 18% aoe cone. Would be boring seeing some of it go, been having a blast escaping the debuffs while fighting

karmic stag
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or the safety was it to just put a modifier like on azerite traits...

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corruption effects 50% weaker in arena

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problem solved

lime light
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no

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50% still will be insane

karmic stag
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....

lime light
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in comps like rmx

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literally u can die in kidney

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if they get good rng

karmic stag
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well ye

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but what nerf by 70%?

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thats awful

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no clue

lime light
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idk

karmic stag
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ye me too

lime light
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not my problem

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they made it not me

karmic stag
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indd

lime light
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tentacles crits for 130k rn

plucky basin
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Just nerf rmx by 50% :^)

lime light
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and mindd fly doin first dmg

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๐Ÿ˜’

light dragon
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halp im small brain how do i do the balance burst rotation in pvp and do i take non-pve talents other than incarn?

odd juniper
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Truly disguisting

north turret
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anyone know if weapons from pvp cap can get some kind of corrupted?

lime light
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disgusting disguster

obtuse ice
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Lol

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True

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Unbalanced

livid wasp
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Cant be

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After all the thorough testing on ptr

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Kapp

lime light
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anyone know

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if u can get the thingys from arenas

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for proffesion like insta

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or u need to do something

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suck few pve bosses or some shit?

crimson wagon
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Thank you blizzard, very cool!

lime light
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@vestal citrus ye i know, but u dont have to do any pre quests? They just drop even if u dont have proffesions?

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Juice necros on big worlocks inc 4head

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๐Ÿ‘

paper valve
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and then farm another 20

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then another 200 ๐Ÿ™‚

forest kite
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Lock is so disgusting

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wtf now they summon an infernal every 3rd cast

lime light
last trout
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lock = ranged DH

livid wasp
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so anzig vra is broken?

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the maut wep

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for feral

lime light
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might be yes

karmic stag
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why

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should it be broken?

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whats wrong with it?

hollow sapphire
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After 8.3 guardian pvp talents nerf, he still viable in arenas?

round dome
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seems pretty bonkers if you can stack echoing void

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played vs a team last night after hotfixes went live and 55% of his damage was echoing void

hollow sapphire
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Looks good

west laurel
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what has been nerfed with guardian?

hollow sapphire
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Damage caused by Protector of the Pack (PvP Talent) can no longer be absorbed or reduced by damage reduction effects. Brambles will no longer deal damage after suffering damage from Protector of the Pack (PvP Talent). Den Motherโ€™s (PvP Talent) increased maximum health effect no longer affects the Guardian Druid.

clear pulsar
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I think guardian is still good enough to get duelist easily

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So yeah its viable

hollow sapphire
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In 2v2 or 3v3?

stray sigil
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idk if id call it good anymore

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anyone has maut weapon yet?

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curious to see dmg breakdown in arenas with it

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like would it be more dmg than shivering lance was

lime light
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think so

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a little bit more

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and healing

stray sigil
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only procing off autos seem kinda troll

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vs shit like rmp that weapon sound sorta bad

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well not bad

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but impractical

clear pulsar
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Yeah impractical

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But the other alternative cleaves so breaks trap/poly

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I havent been to the raid yet

stray sigil
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good thing it as bis stats on it

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so its not too bad

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means not having to farm waycrest forever again

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pog

clear pulsar
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True

stray sigil
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inb4 weapon gets nerfed cuz feral broken spe

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and back to farming wc

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pog

clear pulsar
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It's already been nerfed twice I think

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Since PTR

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Costs more corruption than original, and lower proc rate

stray sigil
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ah ya was 50% right

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they knew

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feral was gonna be over the top

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i faced assa disc in 2s yesterday

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its still the most braindamaged shit

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omegalul

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maxlol just pressing evasion 1st gcd and i die through walls and bear

clear pulsar
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I faced greentko and envious in 3s, tsg, the DK has cut of skill and echoing void

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35k dps

stray sigil
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i facedd some

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r1 ww

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that took 10mins to kill feral mw

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and he spat on me

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XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

clear pulsar
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LOL

stray sigil
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was a bit confused ngl

clear pulsar
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Maybe it was a spit in admiration

stray sigil
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hope it was

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cuz i played a lot better than he did but in the end his class is superior

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very unfortunate game

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i already hated ww last patch Xd

karmic stag
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we were happy about guardian nerf cuz of it ruining pvp

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now what...

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every class who gets proper corruption is utterly broken

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what a mess....

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thats day 2 of expansion

stray sigil
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some classes dont need corruption to be utterly broken

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cough ww destro rogue mage cough

forest kite
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DK was actually buffed btw

lime light
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depends

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like pure "dps" wise

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it was a nerf

obtuse ice
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Cough feral

lime light
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but u will notice they doin more dmg on u

forest kite
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it got a buff pure dps wise too via VOP buff

lime light
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since necro+burst

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they rly play vop rn?

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are u srs?

forest kite
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they did before

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petkick was

obtuse ice
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VoP

lime light
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crucible was way way better

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but iam gonna try vop tho

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cuz with 3x magus

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it might be a little something

forest kite
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magus

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that talent that makes apocalypse 45 sec cd

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and VOP

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30% dmg magus

lime light
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no

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i mean

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hmm

forest kite
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they get buffed with mastery too

obtuse ice
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BotD r2 this week no?

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Still not logged on

stray sigil
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next week

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need 3

lime light
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@forest kite not 100%

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cuz magus will cast frosbolt if there is no slow

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on target

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if there is, he will cast shadow bolt

forest kite
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i think they cast frost only 1st cast, no?

obtuse ice
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Ty

lime light
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if they didnt change it, they cast frostbolt if there isnt a slow on target

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otherwise its shadowbolt

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hmm but with this build

stray sigil
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dk player

lime light
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u have only 2 honor talents left

stray sigil
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gross

lime light
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i mean, only one

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cuz u have to pick necro

obtuse ice
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Take cyclone

stray sigil
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yes dk clone

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very

lime light
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cyclone cant kill

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๐Ÿฑ

stray sigil
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why play dk when you can play feral

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with its superior ferocious wound PogChamp

lime light
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why play dk or feral

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if u can play both

obtuse ice
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No

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Alt

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Allowed

lime light
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i have 2 feral and 2 dks

obtuse ice
stray sigil
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alting in bfa tettleslul

lime light
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ye i know

stray sigil
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cant imagine farming essences on multiple characters

simple elm
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Is balance really weak in arena compared to the competitive casters or am I j ust seeing things wrong?

stray sigil
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balance is poop

neon storm
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Any Guardian FC's that hang out in here? What are you talents are you changing up for the Non-Flag/Team Fight games now with the changes from yesterday?

obtuse ice
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I have that already

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Since leech doesn't proc in pvp I don't think

neon storm
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It looks like a lateral move but with Corruption consequences.

obtuse ice
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yhea def

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xd

stray sigil
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depends if your fucking urself with corrupt lul

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but 8% leech sounds pretty w.e

obtuse ice
#

does it proc pvp

clear pulsar
#

8% leech is equivalent to a tank trinket, I got that on my feral

#

Does about the same healing as leader of the pack most games

lime light
#

lol?

clear pulsar
#

Just keep in mind

#

Any wq blue item can also proc corruption

#

Do all gear wqs

obtuse ice
#

20-5 we grinding boys

#

dang

#

I end up winning against Cassidy's rogue

clear pulsar
#

Nice

obtuse ice
#

Where is vision darkness pls

spare falcon
#

cant los/outrange it ๐Ÿ˜„

#

arena is fucked

rigid linden
#

That's my guaranteed corruption piece on my dh hehehhe

#

Weapon

#

From Ra den

carmine sierra
#

Guys... I'm getting destroyed this season. Doing the grind to 1600 for conflict and strife, have done it a couple times on other characters but never found it this tough. On resto, I know it's the start of the season so everyone's in the same cr but I'm getting melted 100-0 every game. Hard stuck st 1500. What do I do?

clear pulsar
#

First week of season

#

EVerybody starts at 0

#

Including every gladiator and rank 1 team

#

Give it a few

#

Also you should mention what matchups kill you

#

Look at damage meter see what is causing it

#

Idk there is nothing that can be said to a question "what do I do I'm getting melted"

carmine sierra
#

I mean I'm 30 losses to 100 wins. So most matchups.

#

I guess I'll give it a few then.

carmine sierra
#

Obvs meant other way around lol

gleaming lion
#

Some guy on lock discord saying you now get 8 tokens for conflict and strife rank 3 at 1k rating. Fat disgusting liar?

sharp cloak
#

Time to unleash

lime light
#

disgusting ape

#

spore pods

clear pulsar
#

Have to be

#

This is the only corruption proc I've got

#

At all

#

Out of 4 characters

#

Yeah

west laurel
#

Can coruption proc on gear in the raid

clear pulsar
#

It can proc on any gear that's been updated or introduced this season

west laurel
#

Or only some weps can have it by standard

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Ah

#

Ok ty

clear pulsar
#

i.e. world quests, dungeons, raids, pvp

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It's the equivalent of titanforging

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Gear from old sources that werent updated, like old warfronts, the invasions, that type of thing, those can still titanforge up to 455, and cant corrupt

west laurel
#

Okay and is pvp cap corupted 100% like m+ chest?

clear pulsar
#

I'm not sure

west laurel
#

Oki well i guess we Will all be doing wq spam till we get corupted bs then lul

clear pulsar
#

Basically

obtuse ice
#

Well not the one of this week

#

But I belive

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M+10 corrupted

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And 2100 pvp + chest gives corrupted

slate nimbus
#

what max chest will be? For 2.1 or 2.4, was thinking about 2.4 since u will get highest reward for +15 in m+

clear pulsar
#

Max chest has always been 2400

slate nimbus
#

i mean about first season week

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cuz previously u was needed push 2.1 , but i remember it was w/o mid season week, so, before hc week

karmic stag
#

what is the pvp conquest reward this week on EU

#

is it random or fixed?

#

sample reward shows as a 440 weapon

#

can i know what it will be or it rolls random?

#

so the one shown the as "sample reward"

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is indeed the actual one

clear pulsar
#

The cap rewards are on a schedule

karmic stag
#

ty

#

i am kinda confused cuz as far as i remember

#

there've been times when next to conquest bar it has shown me a reward

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and when talking to the npc for completing the conquest cap

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he has givem me different stuff

#

but i might be mistaken

lime light
#

@clear pulsar

obtuse ice
#

Oh this is enchant

lime light
#

no

#

its a corruption

#

but someone put it on low lvl sword

#

in the sim

obtuse ice
#

๐Ÿ˜”

heady osprey
#

Bear PvP is funny ๐Ÿ˜ฑ

obtuse ice
#

No

karmic stag
#

bear now will be as viable as other tanks

#

which means 1.8k max i would say

heady osprey
#

I am at 1,2k Atm

#

Playing 2x EV

#

Going Full Survivability

karmic stag
#

EV build applies not only to bears

#

to all tanks

heady osprey
#

Just Nuking Them Down with Dots and Ev

karmic stag
#

in fact DH tank would be way way better than a bear with EV

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cuz he gets 30% leech in meta

#

...

heady osprey
#

True...

karmic stag
#

but ye

#

lets see if they nerf it

heady osprey
#

They will 100% Do

karmic stag
#

ye

#

yy

jagged seal
#

balance pvpv starlord or incarn?

odd juniper
#

Incarn

glacial idol
#

What essences should I use as a rdruid in 2s/ 3s?

forest kite
#

Guys wtf? i just literally oneshotted a dh 2v2

lime light
stray sigil
#

got what he deserved

lime light
#

i did some 2s, and damgur kinda insane

#

even if ppl dont have corruption

#

kinda like it

#

but

#

-warlock teams so fucking boring
-corruption means 2x dmg, even as healer
-hpal honor talent needs nerf, the one with holy light dmg

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monks seems to be super good early on, but in 40-50% damp not that great

obtuse ice
#

Monkgodxlol

lime light
#

and they are prolly easy to kill as feral/assa

#

maybe dh

#

and necro with bursting sores, seems insane

#

less overall dmg, but the burst is rly good

livid wasp
#

blizzard pls ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

so you pretty much have to have one of the op kruptions to do well in arena?

#

at least wqs can proc them too

lime light
#

after we got to 2.1k mmr both enemys got it every game ๐Ÿ˜„

#

but its possible to win

livid wasp
#

ofc now not everyone has it but eventually

obtuse ice
#

Just

#

disable

#

Corruption

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pls

livid wasp
#

they wont do it since they added pvp trinks too

#

with corruption stuff

vestal rain
#

[Forbidden Obsidian Claw] any good in pvp?

#

resto

lime light
#

idk its hard to say if, they should disable corruption or just put a mod on it

#

like for some comps extra dmg would be fine

#

but for others not rly

stray sigil
#

corruption is an abomination

#

rogue mage even more fun to play vs rn Kappa

livid wasp
#

for the first time it really doesnt feel like wow anymore

#

with the corruption stuff

livid wasp
#

would be nice if they just added like pvp power or resilience back and you could pvp and get gear thats more effective against other players than pve gear

clear pulsar
#

Pvp gear corrupts as well

#

So idk how that would help

#

Pretty sure weekly pvp chest is guaranteed corrupted

stray sigil
#

ya but u still get 1 piece every 20 games in pvp lul

sturdy agate
#

don't u have to keep casting tho

#

hard to manage?

fresh nimbus
#

Is balance viable for arena? Anyone familiar with any high rating boomie streamers?

sullen geyser
#

anyone here good with macros?

#

#show [talent:2/3] Wild charge
/cast [nostance:4] !Stag Form
/cast Wild Charge

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is what im working on

#

trying to make it so i can spam it and it doesn't unshift me from stag

last trout
#

@lime light monks are easy to kill I always struggle vs WWs - they fury fist and I need to switch focus

solemn scroll
#

is feral good now out of sudden

#

i see them more often

rigid linden
#

Corruption is so fun

#

Doesn't feel like shit damp game anymore

#

Pls don't disable

clear pulsar
#

It isn't fun when you've done everything that gives gear for 30h total this week and havent got anything but the fucking bracers

rigid linden
#

Un4ch

#

It is the first week though

#

Should let it play out see how it is with everyone having corruption gear

#

Might be a super fast and fun meta

sturdy shuttle
warped hare
#

how do you all think resto druid is going to cope with all this random damage coming in from the corruptions? Played some arenas tonight and corruption was top damage. It appears alot of people are taking rsham which just ruins out throughput via purging

stray sigil
#

so assa disc is still fucking braindead in 2s

#

unfortunate

warped hare
#

ive tried that but it just feels they stop purging if only lb is the hot

#

really struggling vs purge comps, so you would recommend play them slower and keep lining?

#

thats not a bad shout the counter pressure to stop the purges

#

do you know the cost of purge?

#

mana wise - wowhead keeps taking me to classic and says its 10% of mana which it cannot be as they spam it for days

clear pulsar
#

Wut

#

No

#

Purge is way cheaper than 10%

#

It's cheaper than any heal resto has

#

Yeah like 1.3 1.5

warped hare
#

so it is cheaper for them to purge then us to apply hots

#

neither are we xD

#

is it worth taking nourish?

#

so we get a heal and a hot?

clear pulsar
#

I dont think the way to achieve a fun meta is by adding random procs on gear which is most effectively farmed outside of pvp and end up dealing 10-15% of someone's damage over the course of a game, mostly being very bursty procs

stray sigil
#

who woulda thought corruption was gonna be a shit system Kappa

clear pulsar
livid wasp
#

Yeah pvp gear procs corruption too but there will still be the gear diff between average pvp player and fully mythic geared one wont there

nimble moat
#

Hey guys! ๐Ÿ™‚ To get a a chance for a heroic azerite piece in the weekly chest do I have to push 1,6 again? Or did they increase it?

rigid linden
#

That one dh in godly pve gear? Yeah that's gonna be me baby

rancid hearth
lime light
#

if u dont have nimbus bolt 455 ilvl

#

u are trolling

#

26k dps still lose

obtuse ice
#

..

last trout
#

When playing vs WW+healer - Do you ever focus the WW? If I get them low they just fist of fury and I cant attack them - or Karma

#

as feral

hidden sphinx
#

hello can someone reccomend a resto druid to watch in the current patch? or are there any video guides somewhere? (wowhead link just says a lot of stuff i already know)

obtuse ice
#

@last trout Of course

#

Clone fist and karma

#

Gg

lime light
#

i dont think so cloning fists is a correct play, only if he stops them and kick

#

or u tank like 3/4 of it

#

before u land a clone, since push back is pretty big at this point

obtuse ice
#

If the fist on your healer

#

Can be good

lime light
#

ah ye

#

ofc

clear pulsar
#

Feint > bear form

lime light
#

hmm

#

how about rogue>feral?

clear pulsar
#

Every melee has a better way of dealing with fists

#

It's unbelievable

#

Dh can literally just zoom out of it at any point with one of their 4 mobility spells

#

Feint is literally a better defensive than bear form while rogues also have evasion and cloak

lime light
#

yes

#

and i remember when rogues were crying

#

when they nerfed feint

#

in 8.0

obtuse ice
#

Bear form so good

lime light
#

that memory leak is soo anoying

#

i wonder when they fix it

#

randomly after like 1hr, when u playing, game starts stealing whole ram

sullen geyser
#

starting to feel like resto druids just die to mage / rogue in 2v2

#

anyone have any insights?

lime light
#

maybe play that Kappa

royal estuary
#

Play a self cannibalizing broccoli ?

tiny oar
#

Tree is garbage, main thing is hold trinket on blind go until you see combust or vendet, if you dont see either just hold trinket for next kidney all in on you.

lime light
#

play with Glyph

obtuse ice
#

Tree is good

#

Until very good rating

paper valve
#

mage / rogues if uncontrolled will burst the shit out of you

sullen geyser
#

i dont think ive been able to beat a warlock / healer or mage / rogue team tonight

obtuse ice
#

Get good owo

small storm
#

if they play it right they should win

#

but it can be beaten bc most donโ€™t play perfect

full maple
#

is rival 465

#

and duelist 470 yes

#

with duelist giving mythic lvl azerite?

obtuse ice
#

Elite 475 pog

paper valve
#

rogues/mages i only won if i managed to CD survive their burst and let them open on me

#

as rdruid

#

then kite like a mofo around a pillar

#

yes its horrible inefficiency way of doing it

#

had a rogue suicide on me with that ๐Ÿ˜›

echo cloud
#

any NA wanna carry me to 1400, i am stuck on 1200 because carrying my guildies hardcore

#

guardian druid here. pretty good.

#

I just need to get 1400 and i swear i won't touch arena ever again this expanison, por favor.

clear pulsar
#

If you're 1400 you arent pretty good

echo cloud
#

oh ok.

clear pulsar
stray sigil
#

you dont even lose cr below 1500, so if youre stuck 1200 chances are its not only because of guildies

obtuse ice
#

Still not losing rating at 1800 thinkat1

echo cloud
#

i have been losing 12 cr

#

i just hit 1314 with a pug

obtuse ice
#

lmfao

#

Game not playable

#

until you got corrupted

#

5mins game

#

23k dps

clear pulsar
#

I literally havnet got a single piece on my druid

#

Other than bracers at the start

stray sigil
#

i have 2% crit dmg heal

#

lul

obtuse ice
#

Idk how you get some

#

just rng?

stray sigil
#

yes

#

and when you do get one can get a shitty one

#

gr8 system

livid wasp
#

feral feels so trash in arena now

#

1.5k players feel like 2.4k players last season

stray sigil
#

its not that bad

livid wasp
#

or is mw just a bad partner

#

feels like the 1k dps they can put out doesnt help much

stray sigil
#

ive been playing with mw

#

its kinda awkward imo

#

had a game vs war rsham he kept incaping to peel himself but made me drop bleeds everytime idk

#

much better off playing with disc or hpal

livid wasp
#

I played with one till he left when we lost to some hpal/arms

stray sigil
#

played vs ww with a mw on my team

#

was enough of playing with mw for me

echo cloud
#

well wtf

#

random 430 dh came around

#

and we get to 1500

#

feels like fever dream

obtuse ice
#

Lmao zechey

#

3days the season is released

#

Already

livid wasp
#

been doing my first arenas today

stray sigil
#

everything feels winnable in 2s

#

destro is aids and ww is aids

#

disc assa still stupid

#

havent qd into any dh yet

echo cloud
#

guardian druid + dh, we rolled until we met resto sham + ass rog

stray sigil
#

why would u play guardian in 2s

echo cloud
#

why no lol

#

the pug dh didn't complain /shrug

#

well i am already 1400+ now, so not gonna touch arena until next expansion... i hope there's no CnS 2.0, pepekarp forsenGun

stray sigil
#

i mean ig if you like 70% damp games play guard lmao

lime light
#

208k

blissful belfry
#

Fukin hell

livid wasp
#

god I hate facing frost mage/disc

#

how do you even beat that

#

as feral/hpal

lime light
#

hpal op

#

win by default

livid wasp
#

too much dmg and mage just polies him and I have to run 24/7

#

if I go disc, mage freecasts in background

#

if I go mage, disc does a shit ton of dmg

#

I suck so hard against frost mages

#

hate them

#

fire mages are easy

neon hatch
#

there a guardian 2s guide?

obtuse ice
#

Good clone

#

good dmg

#

ez win

lime light
#

mostly what i did, was just goin mage mostly with bt ofc, and bite them PogChamp

#

and spam clone whenever u can

#

u are oom ecc

#

just to be anoying

#

xD

#

yep

#

with corruption ye

#

anyone wanna q

#

blood bw

#

walking dead?

#

cuz this guy was soo cluless

#

and randomly one deag'ing

livid wasp
#

didnt meet any corrupt guys

#

except for some shit ret with echoing doing 10% of his dmg

#

guess theyre all at 2.4k already

stray sigil
#

faced one assa disc last night

#

there was a weird lazer beam in the arena

#

other than that havent face much corrupt or havent noticed it

livid wasp
#

yeah guess its still too early

#

1 month and its a shitshow

lime light
#

btw

#

free tips

#

disarm dont have dr

forest kite
#

Blood DKs have risen?

lime light
#

there is some essence like that

#

and talent

stray sigil
#

bdk still pretty ass just a gimmick

small storm
#

does conquest cap loot corrupt?

spare falcon
#

when the healer outdmgs an uhdk at 2.1 you know that shits fucked

#

giving up on this game

clear pulsar
#

It can @small storm

small storm
#

ok ty

stray sigil
#

first corrupt i get is the shit omen of clarity one

#

lul

clear pulsar
#

There is a omen of clarity corrupt?

stray sigil
#

its beyond shit for feral

#

makes it so next ability u use is 3s reduced

#

we have like 0 cds LUL

karmic stag
#

guys

#

considering the fact there is scaling in pvp combat

#

dropping ilvl there for a desired effect related to better corruption affixe, better secondary stats

#

is much more understandable than in pve right?

karmic stag
#

ye

gloomy token
#

feral pvp is fun debate me

twilit siren
#

is pvp cache guaranteed corrupted as well?

karmic stag
#

yes

twilit siren
#

thanks

small bone
#

can someone pplease help me

#

i dont understand how i just get fucking killed instantly in every 2v2 i do.. i feel like i CAN NOT get out of shit

tardy hare
#

Corruption ๐Ÿค™

lime light
#

Korupt - c walk

#

๐Ÿ‘

last trout
#

@clear pulsar U got the weapon from maut? How good is it in PvP?

lime light
#

Hope its dog

#

Pls be

obtuse ice
#

It's

#

decent

lime light
#

I dont wanna spend my life doin pve like a pig

obtuse ice
#

Like 6 or 7 abvility

#

in dmg done

lime light
#

๐Ÿ˜’

obtuse ice
#

Not as op as

#

Echoing void

#

or Slashing void

#

and infinite star

lime light
#

Idk infinite stars kinda dog for pvp

obtuse ice
#

Not really

crude fern
#

what essences do I got as feral for 2s

last trout
#

I like crucible major + Lucid dreams + Conflict and strife - dont have the 4th slot yet

#

The healing part of the raid corruption could be pretty crazy in PvP

lime light
#

Bote crucible conflict as major are pretty good depends on the playstyle and whobu facing

#

Minor always lucid, + crucible/conflict/breath of the dying

crude fern
#

what about boomy

#

incarn or starlord

obtuse ice
#

I think they play incarn

last trout
#

they are pretty rare xD

west laurel
#

boomy is lots of fun atm

#

im pumping dmg

#

without corruptions

#

actually feels like im doing dmg atm

#

with ppl not running tank trinkets

obtuse ice
#

or just

#

Against bad people

glossy vigil
#

What comps would you play as bomy this season ? w/ destro/sp/ele/fmage?

west laurel
#

im playing boomy sv x

#

yeah we're facing pretty bad players aswell

glossy vigil
#

vision major?

west laurel
#

breath of the dying major

#

with condesnsed and cns minor

#

tbf tho im playing with bad team mates xd @obtuse ice

obtuse ice
#

gz

west laurel
#

no i want to cry

#

cuz i get no corupted gear ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

obtuse ice
#

Oh no

#

3 days and no full gear :(

#

Why I'm not 480 Ilvl already :(

lime light
#

Incarn with vision and big pve gear is scarry

glossy vigil
#

got big pve gear and incarn/achanic pulsar/visionr3 ^^ might try and push a bit today

west laurel
#

i just cry cuz i see demon hunter with rank 3 infinite star one shotting ppl

obtuse ice
#

yhea

#

just like

#

every season

#

where people that got lucky on gear pumps everyone

west laurel
#

yeah true

crude fern
lime light
#

So big dam

#

If u face melee

#

Thorns+this shit

#

And they kaput

crude fern
#

yeah

#

just ate a DH

west laurel
#

bruuh

#

big

rustic heron
#

Has anyone played frost mage/rdruid after the patch?

#

With the rise of all the ww heroes the comp feels like dogshit now

livid wasp
#

ww monks are so shit in the raid statistics

#

theyll maybe get another buff 4head

obtuse ice
#

Niiice

#

Where are feral

#

Since I raided a bit

#

I might have lowered the parse mwahahha

clear pulsar
#

I have all of those @obtuse ice @lime light

#

Echoing void infinite stars and maut weapon

#

Havent played arena yet tho

#

Gonna test today

#

I think echoing void is the best

lime light
#

disgusting pve pig

#

pls

clear pulsar
#

But devour vitality is very reliable and heals u

lime light
#

i literally dont have any corruption on my main ferakl

clear pulsar
#

About 1% of ur hp per second

#

Fairly good

lime light
#

litlerally 0

clear pulsar
#

I spent over 8h grinding every single piece of content that awarded gear last night

#

Gimme a break I deserve my loot

lime light
#

my only corruption

clear pulsar
#

My echoing void is on a blue wq ring

#

And my infinite stars is only tier 1, it procs for 11k damage