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Lol portal seeems insane
If I cap my conquest this week will i get my last 5 pieces for conflict and strife in my box?
I want them to fix feral sounds
do you guys die fast as hell in wpvp as well?
reaping flames deals so much dmg in pvp
@clear pulsar boomkin to anything really. im getting my ass beat out here by almost all classes.
ill try it, but man. i feel like im just a piece of fucking paper out there
even the new mobs are beating my ass
so you need to do the uldum dailies every day for half a year to get exalted
im friendly with uldum boys!
yeah but if reaping flames rank 3 is gonna be bis
mister
i mean
the mining
rank 2 osmenite
pattern
idk how to summon some avizurus
or other shit
u said u farming
gold
like a week
ago
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...
ok
ok fuck that
iam bored already of making gold
just gonna buy token
but everything is bugged in chamber
cant get crucible rank4
cant get 3rd essence slot on alt
yuh

What a G@M3R
How's feral in 2s with a hpal compared with something like ww/hpal. Looking to get back into things with my healing friend.
Ww just got tremendous buffs
Feral didn't
Feral is good, ww is great
Feral hpal is a 7, ww hpal is a 10
Ish
How does mage/ feral track?
Yeah
Mage/feral for 2s and through a hpala in for 3s
Throw*
Ahk dope. Just narrowing down if I want to play my feral or lock with my mage friend
Leaning towards feral as play style feels more enjoyable than standing there spamming chaos bolts..
Okay sounds good
More than fine to 2100
In 2s
Just gotta learn it
And definitely can get glad with fmpala
@clear pulsar what is the ‘high level’ strategy?
I.e. get bleeds up on one and nuke?
Idk just general gameplay strat for double dps
Cross cc, burst in a stun, avoid damage
Try to clone target low in between goes
Kite enemy dps when you cant cc them
Thanks guys, was super curious how it would work

Yes
kk
Hi is balance any good in pvp/arenas this patch? Returning player here just wondering if I can get high mmr
This patch?
Only 2 days the patch is released
How can we even guess
Maybe it will be super good
Or not
Who knows
Inb4 every dog will Play boom dh rsham
Cuz we back to s1
Also RMX might be viable for once
last night i watched the last Terminator movie. At some point i was kinda upset as to how desperate those humans are to keep shooting at the evil Terminator with their puny guns without doing any damage and yet CONTINUING to do so... I realized at some point that this is EXACTLY how dps classes (especially melee) feel when attacking Guardian druid. They see they do 0 damage yet they never surrender! 😄
mechagon red card subroutine defragmentation is nerfed by about 50% in pvp !
how do u know
why?
sporepods nerfed
defragmentation nerfed
what is the trinket now that will make classes so durable?
cuz the main problem in this game are cancer classes
like rogue mage guardian dh and destro
no
after such a huge hit to all trinks
yes on the whole comp yes
but classes individually will definitely feel the difference
guardian thing is that its not that the class is immortal or that insane or something its just that the honor talent protector of the pack and den mother provide way too much durability for team mates
in reality blood dk/ Vengeance DH are way tankier in pure slugfest cuz of their sustain meta god mode etc etc
but have 0 viability
cuz of no team support
and they end up being punch bags
so yea guardian opness is prolly linked to the mates it boosts
remove protector of the pack
and make den mother not affect allies and literally no one will play bear
lilke other tank classes
i already cba playing this game
fucking world of world quest
and they making spawn long af on purpose


Nice
Thanks bro
Seems pretty BabyRage tbh
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didnt blizz release a mount with a 6 month sub when nazjatar came out
The boat
yeah that was with battle for dazar alor patch I think
we got the dragon last time
cheeky blizzard doing this to get people to buy the sub
before theyre bored of the patch
is guardian in 3's actually good or just annoying? There are very few high-rated guardians in gneral
in other words, is it good or just annoying to play against
annoying+
depends on the guardian druids dps player
annoying
but yeah mostly anoying
it's good into meleecleaves imo
prevents zerg type shit
but against wizards
feels like it gets clapped
yeah
i always find it interesting that rdruids do so well in 2's. They certainly have a great kit, but here's the thing: everyone plays them. So it often feels like my opponents know exactly what to do against me on my rdruid in every scenario.
Compare that to, say, my MW, which doesn't have as great a kit, but is a lot more rare in arena - it feels like people just don't know what to expect of me
curious if anyone else has seen the same thing happen
annoying
What are the top 3 2v2 partners for a Rdruid? 1) DH 2) Destro 3) DK?
warrior get perma kited tho
useless class in 2s does nothing
kappa
i cant wait for dh tanks to start one shoting ppl with auto attacks !
btw as a scrub feral does it matter what healer i play with
Mw has a great kit
@rose portal
Incap disarm aoe stun can talent into disorient or rop and just the best mobility
@grand pulsar just avoid holy priests and probably resto sham at current state
Hpal rdru mw disc all good, in order best to worst in my opinion
disc is def bettee than mw or rdru for feral in 2s
Bro double dru claps melees @stray sigil
even with the nerfs it still punps in 2s
Double thorns vs trash dhs that only train one target all game
I agree disc is good
u lose vs rogue teams rdru feral
Yeah true
But disc has to be very good for you to beat rogue teams
As feral disc
Rdru doesnt have to be very good for you to win the comps you beat
Yeah disc is like hail mary you kinda always have a chance
But I think rdru has a larger number of favorable matchups
Like dks dhs wws
Enemy feral
Current mw claps tho
And feral hpal is bis
prob with mw is it doesnt bring anything for feral in 2s
Yeah but the throughput is so insane
And with tank trinkets gone
That's just what I've felt in my games, and I'm far from a good player, ymmv @grand pulsar
But hpriest and rsham def the bottom 2
ah i see i see
And I played many many games of 2s last season but majority of it as double dps or protpala feral
doubledps feels so dumb everytime unless its rogue mage
actually
getting run at by 2 demonhunters is not a good experience
2.4*
feral hpal is your best comp though
hands down
feral ww is fun feels a bit like ret feral
Ret feral felt super scuffed since offhealing nerfs unfortch
Maybe we just sucked
But protpala feral definitely poggers
That's like
tanks in pvp are all equally as cancer
bm is not good or annoying
prot pal is shit
but
its aids to play vs
prot pal dh i still remember that shit from s1
tank in pvp
still have nightmares
It's always quick games
It's like hpal feral with less healing but an extra immunity and blanket silence
Guardian is aids cuz it drags games on for 12 mins even if they suck balls
Yeah it's not even great
But lets you get a cyclone guaranteed for instance
The only long games we had are vs destro rdru/hp
Or if a cross kill happened and I really wanted to win the 1v1
Exactly
I agree that protpal dps healer in 3s is equally aids to fight against but
wouldnt you get smashed by dh
Protpal feral in 2s is quick games fun to play hella cross cc
Yeah we could never beat them consistently
since no tank trinkets
Only if they super fucked up
Like this one game right as we were hitting 2.2 the DH flew in the air and we killed the rsham cuz he had no one to link to
Just that type of bullshit
omega
Helm and shoulder from raid have pack spirit with good traits for pvp
another season of double melee rsham
pog
and rmpala
lets never forget rogue mage 
feral is giga fucked honestly
jungle is not gonna be as good
so like we have to play flp LUL
gl finding a lock that wants to q that over mld/p
ya but like
lol
u dont play with a disc for its healing output anyways
thats nerfed a lot now
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Junge ftw
jungle is so boring lmfao
Ah maybe
iam fls feral
its prob gonna be like mw jungle or hpal jungle
The healing buff doesnt make up for the loss of atonement healing
rot
I think
and never swap back
Lunar inspiration bloodtalons big haste
Is the play brother
Believe
@lime light
Newbie question:. Can you change gear in arena before the the countdown ends
Yes @echo jacinth
Really??
Before gates open you can change anything you would in a rested area
Gear talents essences
Just not spec
Yeah different azerite pieces can also be quite useful depending on your spec
Like as feral there is 0 point in playing iron jaws vs triple melee or if my kill target is a destro lock for instnace
Indeed
Hmmm. I wonder how that will work with Covenant Soulbinds in Shadowlands?
How do you mean?
Swapping that shit requires you to do extra things
It wont be something you can just swap in or out
Open a menu and click it off
Changing Covenants does take a lot of effort but Soulbinds are meant to be easy to switch. I'm just wondering if they will require us to visit the NPC in order to gain their soulbind.
"Information about Soulbinds is limited at this point, but it will allow you to share power with a selected Covenant denizen to augment your own abilities. There is also a new item type used in conjunction with Soulbinds called a Conduit, which allows you to alter some of the core powers of the Soulbind and allow different choices along the way. It's a type of power customization that you can alter to suit your own needs and play style.
You will be able to switch Soulbinds, a process that will be similar to switching Talents. Therefore, it may be helpful to explore the Soulbind opportunities of whatever options present themselves to you along the way."
That is from Wowhead.
I'd imagine it requires you to at least talk to the npc
So it wouldn't be doable in arena
I hadnt read about soulbinds
idk
iam not specing FF anymore
no way
even if i lose every game
boring ass spec, without bt
I remember playing BT in wod cause I didnt wanna be that ugly man cat thing
the guy who made this feral sound
should fucking listen to day
for 24hrs
this feral sounds
are like from
comedy
i mean feral is a big comedy
It's so trash
so its actualy good together
Is moonkin aura a must have for pvp talents?
Ye pretty much @forest kite
@forest kite ye pretty much
Pretty much ye @forest kite
why does it feel like they stealth nerfed feral
feels so weak now idk
in arena
or maybe feral/mw isnt optimal idk
bloodtalons is when you accidentally forget your pve spec
any updated feral guides out there? Traits/essence etc..
u have to wait a bit
after season starts
best traits rn
as many as u can MI
2+ IJ
jungle fury can be decent at some point
essences, crucible/bote/conflict main
u talking about blood mist
but I'm unbound force player now
Same ^
But
BotE major unbound force minor + cyclo blast full crit pumping 160k damage

pigs
Hey guys, been trying to play some Rbgs with my guild but we always end up facing 1k9/2k players, it's unwinnable for pve players like us, game says our team rating is 1k9 but we never played rbg before, and individual rating is 0, how is that possible ?
I see, thanks
Got 2k5 players last bg, was really unfun
😢
its dumb on stuff that has good defensives like rogue, ret and DH
Rbg hella dead
Pog

why dont blizz bother doing anything about rbgs
Cause it sucks
anyone else looking forward to tanks doing top dps in every aspect of the game? 😄
lmfao
One more blocked
How are the engineering goggle traits for feral/rdruid for arena?
Considering to level a crafting profession but not sure which 😄
have they buffed uh dk
im fighting one in world pvp and he just kills me like im fucking paper
he didnt
are they even killable in 1v1
or no
I just checked
its his 25 lvl nazjatar follower
fuck this
Yhea duck this
did the engi helm get nerfd ?
not in 8.3
IT wasnt a real nerf
Traits were ignoring a pvp mod
50% less healing/absorb on last tier traits
But the engi head super juice for feral
Mi+the main stat absorb + removing Ape assas bleeds
Or cut of the death bleed
Super hiper good
Nice so you would recomment getting Engi over other professions as feral rdruid?
first trait is great for rdruid/feral just had no idea how good the engi goggles only traits are
If I upgrade my voidfocus do I unlock the higher level crafting stuff for all professions or only for one?
For all yes
ty, I will start to level leatherworking/engi then 🙂
That's what iam doin
But i heard the best is jc tho
The rings are insane
But u need tons of gold
Or mats
Ye but there is like
4 rings?
With diff stats
And their name is not the same
The unique only means u cant get 2x same ring with like mastery versa
Ecc
I see, so jewelcrafting would prob be better
can u farm with jewelcrafting alot of expulsom aswell
bc I lack those atm
can I drop leatherworking later and level jewelcrafting
if I dont get lucky with rings in the first weeks
Iam not sure if u can keep the lw items
I shouldnt lose the void focus?
Do u know if I need to max the profession straight away to drop the Recipe:Void Focus?
can I drop leatherworking later and level jewelcrafting and still use the leatherworking crafted gear and my void focus
if I dont get lucky with rings in the first weeks
u can't
I see so I need to pick 2 out of 3
@lime light why do u need tons of gold for jewelcrafting? Im more in the 150k g region
mats costs a lot
iam not sure bro
depends on the server also
- u might have to craft few rings, depends on rng
ty alot gonna look up the mats on my server - Leatherworking jewelcrafting gives you 4 socketed items thats pretty insane actually
yes
it is not since u can make your own sockets
for 25k 
ye u might be able to make ur sockets when we are mid of the 8.3 😄
got leather working to 174 - that was low effort xD
so it seems
we arent seeing a gurdian nerf at all
....
bear is going to be stupendously overpowered
with echo of the void
twilight devestation corruption effects as they scale with max hp
they are especially good with DH tank and guardian
yeah unless they do changes before tuesday
or changes during tuesday maintenance
its gg
if they dont change anythinf in a week from now
i see literally 0 reasons to have any guardian changes
i mean my hope for a guardian nerf is have some sort of a pvp tuning pass
its literally ridiculous to see something like a hotfix saying "guardian druid protector of the pack honor talent removed or nerfed by 50%"
they dont change stuff like that
the only changes that might be there
will be in next week
depends how good or bad spec does
in heroic raid
What if instead of ferocious wound applying a hp reduction
It was a talent where each bleed you have makes your bite ignore 20% of the target's armor
Make every plate a clothie 
what do you think about gcd
Echoing void
or the one that does 2% of maximum hp as dmg on autoattacks
30k autoattacks from a guardian
lul
guardian with feral affinity
just spam autoattacks while having big hp
@obtuse ice aehi nerfing feral monkaS 😦
@lime light what traits would you use on the engi goggles?
MI and which of those crazy engi ones
ty you think engi goggles are the best helm in the game for feral? Need to decide if I go jewelcrafting or engi 😄
Im around 200k g
you thin mechagon rings in 460 will be better?
ye prob safer to go engi ^^
oh there are different corruption on different pieces?
so I might want a special ring corruption anyways?
ye Ill do - I dont plan to endure a raid xD
hopefully they improve PvP gearing
Lol.
Dh god.
and maybe with disc 
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Any good druid youtubers/streamers to learn from? Rest specifically but keen to mess around with other specs too.
Resto, damn autocorrect.
@carmine sierra Good Rdruid twitch streamers: Metaphorsx, Cdewx, Trillebartom, Goreckitv, Doomsen
They are mostly multi class.. but do play rdruid
Crucible might be slightly better if you are focusing on Single Target DPS. I like running Anime because in an RBG or WPvP you get BIG NUMBERS and people cry because their Details shows them lower than me.
will there be season 5?
or unlikely
shows 30 weeks
i guess most definitely no season 5
you can't lose in 2s as feral XD
OH YHEA TRUE XD
bang mw imo
better keep running then so the warrior doesn't cleave and oom ur healer 1st 😉
He will die first if I keep chasing
then ur priest sucks XD
the disc I play with 1v1s the dps he has on him
if I can keep their healer running/los from the dps he wins the 1v1
Maybe the enemy dps just sucks
@obtuse ice there used to be 2 starts, first u chase monk, no matter what, dont touch warrior just root, clone him to aids him
thorns your partner
2nd is rot dmg
that might be pretty bad rn
Conflict major hun
Conflict major gives you hella benefits
It's not just for when you're the target
Like you said, you dont wanna give up leader or wound
But thorns is so oppressively strong in some matchups
And 5% extra damage on every go
Cuz you double your versa when you kick or stun
So you get 450 more from cns
Basically 5.5% bonus damage
And you can have hella uptime on it as feral
can't korean swap with BT
BT?
ah ye
and each time I try a go on monk
Well yeah your spells have counterplay hun, you gotta set up your game
Glyph is trying to tell you how to win, making excuses as to why you cant do it wont help
Is there a rule of thumb who to focus
I struggle focusing DHs
they just fly in the air when they get low
always play with clone?
You'll have few clean gos, but it doesnt matter cuz you should be able to 100-0 the healer in a stun into half stun
in every MU to get used to it?
I thought about lil lump BotE monk
Especially if your disc knows how to do damage
but the best, used to be, just go mw, u should be able to keep with him
Cause monk have low mana
at the end
maybe we just need to stay alive a bit long and I should start bleeding both earlier too
but yhea
Clone low
Can create really good pressure
What you playing?
Electromental?
I love badge
Worldvein major?
I like playing cyclo meme when I go lunar inspiration
Haha
Yeah worldvein major gives you another 3200 agi
I guess it's not super practical cuz the cd doesnt line up with frenzy
Like bote does
Botd pumps
and maybe flame for the dots
Lucid botd flame minors
just get some good coruption and you will one shot ppl pasivly
pro tip from a pro gamer
True
what are the best corruptions for us?
Even this ?
I didnt notice it
Lash of the void, echoing stars, devour vitality, gushing wound, echoing void
but better than nothing xD
That one is pretty shitty haha
put your hands up
Yeah everyone has that from the intro quest
ye it sucks xD
Kill mobs in uldum/pandariA?
have a chance once a week from horrific vissions aswell
Horrific vision can give you some yeah
you guys doing visions as feral?
It basically replaces titanforge for any gear from new sources
as feral?
Feral is pretty good for it too
even tho i have 0 coruptions
and i kill the blacksmith every run
that gives 10% bonus dmg to me
and i stack the 15% bonus dmg from table
with crusible and cyclo for mini bosses and thrall
shouldnt feral be better when we get some gear
the danger of dieing is alot lower than anyways
and feral AoE with predator and the AoE bleed should be quite good
ye prob, Im serious undergeared since I started few weeks before the patch
Better like that?
No
What I do is
Look at bite tooltip
Haha
If it goes up, use
If not, trash
Or rip also sometimes
Cuz haste
30.4k bites
Rookie numbers
no
31.6k without that
my bite is 27.7k 😦
does the combo point gen from gushing stack?
no
so its not worth it to run 2 porb
if u wanna see what is stacking
I have a big haste set for plate teams where I just double bleed people
open this
in azerite
and check the green numbers
they are stucking
stacking
Impassive visage?
so best PvP traits would be 2 iron jaws 3 instincts 1 gushing?
no
1 jf
3xij 3x mi
Gushing is garbage
Gl not garbage
1x jf 2x ij 3x mi or 3x ij 2x mi
3xij 2xmi
i dont care, i like it
wfr is super trash
also
in pvp
like super mega hiper trash
Yeah only ij mi and jf are worth anything
1xbf is pretty ghetto
gonna run engi goggles so Mi+ the world shrink thing
Yeah engi helm good, self cauterizer broken
then I can only get 1 Iron jaws
also remember cuf of skill
is bleed
prolly the biggest damgur bleed
in the game
so engi super good
cuf?
Some fuck keeps checking my toon in check pvp wtf
I havent even played any games this week
lol
now Im gonna check ur toon aswell
Sadly no
Gotta be fuji then
@lime light gimmie his feral name

want it aswell Pog
i dont have
gr
@obtuse ice we gonna stalk and comment on him 😄
I don't wanna comment
Hot
I just like to put saying in front of experience
Bro wtf you could just ask my exp
Next thing you're asking my social security number "oh I just wanted to know his birthday"
my stats suck
your gear too
You def gotta git gud
shit trinkets
hey Im playing since 3 weeks ^^
dont play safeguard after nerfs
easy
Haha
What is your xp @clear pulsar
my PvP stats suck - Im queuing with a friend with ilevel 400 atm
we are getting trained xD
when u see that 380k hp DH u know its over xD
Hey i'm duelist bro @obtuse ice
Gotta do like my friend shadownerf tho, I'm duelist playing at 175ms
Hehe
Im mainly playing 2s
its also good, but iam not rly playing it myself
dont tell me you are using some broken PvE bs
badge+insg / battlemaster



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