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Fucking baguettes
now you play a chicken

are you like mutually fucking in the ass with Formy
true
they should increase glad rank
2.5
Glyph
in your opinion
Is WoW pvp worth giving attention and skilled
I talk
Purely objectivly
So
do you think it is skilled mmo?
True actually
It's a lot like any other online game
You fool
Go play league same shit
Go play dota same shit
Go play fortnite same shit
If you're just starting obviously you cant compete
The issue is wow doesn't really give you information
I mean
For anything regarding how to play
I'm just wondering why WoW don't put effort in it
Maybe it's cause it's not that good overall
so I'm asking
WoW is easy just learn to trade defensives and setup cross cc gg ez you're 2.4
yhea
but at least what I like is that you choose parnter
no randomQing
^
I struggle a lot with thatlol
It should be solo q dps healer v dps healer
I care about 2s c:
I don't
why not
thanks for the anwer
really dissapointing WoW team doesn't put any effort in pvp then
:<
?
just really wish they put effort into wow
its nice with the quick games
40 min dota/lol or cs games are painful
balanced arena is a dream
@clear pulsar yeah i agree about sabertooth
they should make some talent in this row
for bleeds
like literally that u can do bleed damgur
back in the days, u were pressing FB only when someone was below 25% hp
to refresh it
now u just monkey donkey press fb if u have bleed active
PS could be undispellable
dont think so thats a case
after playing quite a few games with guardian in arenas / skirmishes
and being noob with feral
now that i tried feral i feel like a wet nooble
i die in no time
need to rotate cds / kite/ stun / cc etc etc so as not to die in 8 secodns
Totally different gameplay
π
yea
but is fun
just the skill cap is way higher
bear is for braindead peeps
Well I found that if you play feral passively in arena (I really only do skirmishes) It's easy to die cuz well other classes are mongoing and you die fast. If you are more aggressive and go after someone hard it works out better. This is a contrast to a 1v1 where I can 1v1 someone easier lol
can non-tank specializations
like rogues
equip tank trinkets
like sporepods for example?
if traded for example
Yea
right but i guess some are quite uneuseful
for example sporepods doesnt give intellect
only str/argility
so casters wont benefit
Casters dont need it tho
Locks are tanky enough
Mages are honestly too tanky for a mage, and can avoid a lot of damage
Spriest maybe!? But people only play spriest with destro usually
So it's whatever
Mostly it's a thing for melees that can't hang
not to get 500+ main stat
Yeah that's what I'm saying, most casters dont even wanna play it
ok
And rogues usually don't play it either on ladder, even the ones that have them
Yeah
Assa is too good
Don't need gimmicky shit
I am dh god.
totally random noob question of the day ... we have a 50% increase in BG honor gains from bonus event .... do we get 50% more from playing for alliance (if horde) ?
so translation i should totally just play for alliance π
best traits for balance druids in pvp and major essence?
I already have a warlock
I would like to play other chars as well
ok, ty
@obtuse ice HECK SBT
HECK INCARN
@clear pulsar also im not a pvper
i managed 2400 somehow one time

nice
@vestal citrus do u have a spit bucket?
Had this disc priest with decent gear netomatic me off my mount he tries for a bit to 1v1 and starts to lose then runs away, gets on his mount and comes back and emote spams like he accomplished something. At least interacting with a lot of the dysfunctional people that can be in wow is entertaining π
Big dam
@clear pulsar what's yout IG feral name pls
No I wanted to know it
But ok don't wanna share
2s or 3s
Fly is shit 2s
What is solitude
It is like in replacement of fly
?
Yhea
I mean idk dh much but I would never take fly in 2s
In like 3s it can be ok I think
But 2s you just wanna smash ppl
And oom healer

Gg
Having fun?
ffs



remember to blur nothing
dark nothing
and trinket nothing
and fly before grouding

cuz as far as i know
u cant kill groudning
when u fly
cuz % damgur
Guys do you know
that avoidance stat that says : " Reduces damage taken from area of effect attacks"
does it include all attacks like cleave, aoe, warrior blade storm, etc etc
yes
and there is a tank essence in 8.3
touch of the everlasting
when you go below 35% hp it gives you 300 of that for 15 secodns on 1 min cd
sounds juicy
the one that gives u avoidance from % of your haste?
sets you to 40% max hp, gives you 80% dmg reduction for 3 seconds after that and resets the cd on sotf
yeah
well anyway
thing is
it is insane cuz
that death preventer is probably death preventer ever put into the game
bringing an 800k hp bear back to life
with 40% health, reducing dmg taken for next 3 sec by 85% and givign you a free charge of survival insticnts
is crazy
and you know
it cant be used more than once every 10 mins
but who cares when after an arena match it is reset π
and is not affected by dampening lol
there is a lot of shit not affected by damp in bfa
yeah
mage shield KEKW
As a Guardian Druid whatβs the best way to deal with an opposing Guardian Druid 1 on 1? Just /dance until they do?
Well, i definitely wouldnβt sit there and watch the duel till it ends.
Is Guardian druid actually a vaible spec for arena now?
Yes
what traits/essences/talents would a guardian play in pvp? π€
1 waking dream power of the moon is good, mastery procs for more hp is good on third ring stuff
play anima / conflict / null r3s for most match ups
thank youuuu should something about the statweights be changed? what about pvp talents and talents :>
max ilvl / HP possible no real stat priority other than mastery for more hp if you have to choose between two equal pieces, vers n haste good too
most games are protector of the pack / den mother / sharpened claws, for RMX you swap out anima for conflict major sharpened and play overrrun for another interrupt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LlOiHZpqY
supatease's full guide if you wanna learn more @forest kite he plays it at like 2800 cr atm
thanks a looot~
@forest kite pls dont Play guardian
also that ^
just know every time u queue guardian in arena, a feral druid DIES 
Do anyone know if you are able to buy rank 2 blood of the enemy if you have the achievement but havn't completed the quest for rank 1?

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guardian isn't too viable for 2's though is it?
maybe against double dps comps but vs dps/healer it's kind of worse?
the 3's rsham/guard/arms is super tanky though haha
as feral just curious as I generally only do skirmishes but so far have encountered some guardians... best to just avoid them? Kill the other dps. I think one I just faced wasn't geared lol but curious on how to at least be "somewhat" effective against them...
Its not hair its fur 
Looks like a 20% nerf to starsurge in pvp, the rest of the differnce is from people's versatility
It's a much smaller nerf than bite tbh
How much damage do boomie dots actually do in pvp
@tiny oar you tryna get typhooned some more?
feral essences?
crucible/conflict/bote main
minor conflict/crucible/lucid
go to should be crucible main
ty
bro
there is no cap
For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than search it for themselves.
Increasing the Artifact Level of the Heart after unlocking its final Stamina node will continue to increase the Heart of Azerothβs item level by 2 per step, but otherwise, major progression will end at Artifact Level 80.
but yes u will only get ilvl on neck after like 80 +
ok thx anyway
did ur uncle touch u today or something
First day he didn't
DH god
@rigid linden
hi
Is it fine to overgrowth + bark sometimes as resto?
Or is it easily punishable as the enemy team?
I like the fact that @west oasis will answer this 100% accurately even tho he hasnt been subbed in over a year because the game has been in the exact same state since 8.1 dropped
Corrupted gladiator elformdiablo
Sup guys
for boomies what comps are viable atm?
Ele Boomie, Rogue Boomie, Fmage boomie?
@vestal citrus answer the man
And don't you dare say guardian
Do you know who corki plays with?]
Aehi is the ultimate thread derailer with his nonsense π
Boomie ele is probably the best
I see druids use overgrowth ironbark together and iits just a fkn LOH
come on man..
Ww boomy huh?
I think rogue boomy sounds reaaaally good but you'll never find a rogue to play dwts
Except @loud axle
https://clips.twitch.tv/HilariousObeseSalamanderGingerPower
Guardian is fine
Where are the rest of the pvp changes
Guardian druid? Assa ? Monk ?
Fire mage destro lock?
Yeah
Usually on mythic release, hopefully 8.3.5 also has changes
Cuz it's been the same goddamn meta for over a year
I've already emotionally commited to my dh
If they fkn buff ferals
Blizzard playing with my heart
They wont buff ferals
But I just hope they nerf guardian
That's the one thing
If there's one change
ONE CHANGE
Has to be a guardian nerf
could never play a DH, looks and behaves too silly / lame. lol
@round dome are you teslabeam?
Playing vs studzy rn
And hansol
He's kinda lost in some games
Sam: "I really dislike having to win on goes, doesn't feel consistent"
Fucking
????????????
Playing DH for a week will fuck with your brain @rigid linden
Really does
Looks like sifox is in r1 range
Axtin is close too on his push
And zev is obviously
We might have multiple r1 ferals 
The only meaningful moment is the present
Stop living off your past glories and git fucken gud

DH main disgusting
Fuse and zev are pmuch guaranteed rank 1 if they stop queueing I think
I like dwts
But ppl donβt like sub
And boomies donβt exist cause they rerolled guardian
We need to buff f.... dh assa mage destro
Feral dont deserve any buffs, broken class since 1.0 vanilla
Friendly reminder if u LOSE as feral u are π€‘
no homo?

@unkempt wind just dont die so u can win every game 
No homo
@clear pulsar link vods
i dont mind guardian as much as rmpala or mld
true
I gotta start recording vods
Cuz i'm at a point where I can't really tell what I'm doing
@lime light π
Tian angry now...
Guardian Druids with the Mage Tower Legion Artifact appearance Might of the Grizzlemaw now have a unique dance animation.
Nice guardian change
Hmm.... no more PP license for now. Have to get an new video editor for videos for my laptop since my desktop blew up. Vegas pro ? Any other suggestions that's not too much of a hassle for doing warcraft videos ?
Windows movie maker
@mighty totem yeah like glyph suggested, sometimes
It's one of those things where you have to be aware of how many cds they're popping on the target
Like in 2s, if disc pops dark arch with assa vendetta
You can certainly pop og and bark to negate a good amount of pressure
Or vs frost tsg where the dk and Warr go ham with their cds
Photo shop
why
should he backpadle?
dodge doesnt work in pvp unless provided by skills
π
@vestal citrus @west oasis Thank you both for answering my question! ^^
New to resto currently adjusting into it from a previous mage main
Not sure if it's because of my gear
But sometimes I feel like my heals do absolute shit all
Even a swiftmend regrowth in dampening
Is like 5% hp
My mastery is 17%, haste is 14% , versa is 9%
HP is 307k :/
It's that much of a difference? O_O
Yeah, I usually try to maintain a good amount of hots before i swiftmend
If possible to take advantage of the mastery
Jesus that's a huge difference
Against dh and assa rogue in 2s, I've heard people say they play the "resto afk spec" - What talents would that be?
I've ironbarked early with hots, just to die to a dark arch rogue
in a stun
Really really frustrating
So I'm at 2150cr 2.2kmmr, and it seems DH know how to somewhat mana burn now
What should I do to try and shut them down
I've seen people mass entanglement too
They usually reverse the roots
Ah right
I heard they can't get the burn off against relentless unless they go in meta first for the haste
Also is azerite gear the only way to increase my hp
I'm 435 ilvl equipped
any higher level piece will give more stamina
They usually feel minimal
Like a 2khp increase
I'm wondering how people have like 350k hp
titanforges probably etc. esp if they been playing that toon all over the expansion
i got a few 455 TF lol
What are the best mates for a guardian druid to easily climb ?
resto shamy + DH as far as i know
Can i ask you why those 2 specificly ?
cuz resto shamy
goes wolf form
with insane passive sustain
on top of your already crazy mitigation u give
and he is immortal
Oh so he needs the azerite traits right ?
ye
Mitigation from protector of the pack ?
20%
dmg reduction is what he gets from your honor talent
also 15% max hp from den mother
All right thx !
np
Then we just have to exaust enemy team ?
And when is the right time to push ? I mean now the rating will be reset soon no ?
yy
i expect guardian nerfs
though
however unlikely i thought it is for blizz to nerf them
forums are going in an outcry almost everyday
and i see a reason
its not that guardian is that super durable
in fact there are tanks which outlive bears in pure slugfest
problem is insane honor talents like those i mentioned
making team mates immortal
Ok thanks

in all seriousness
is there any possible way to get a response from blizz
as to what/when they will nerf bears???
no responses in forums nowhere
what do we do send ticket or what ?
or just give up
and take it for granted that nothing will be done
if they are gonna do somethign now is the time
its not fair toward other specs
let the other classes do the complaining
π
If we really want guardian to get nerfed, we need more people to play it
"It is not fair to the the other specs" Then by your logic they should nerf Fire Mage, Assn Rogue, Resto Druid, H Pally and VDH.
VDH?
how is VDH supposed to be nerfed in pvp
do a petition or some sort of riot
thats ridiculous
seriously
@karmic stag dumn
?
that's a guardian nerf
i dont have a problem with guardian durability/ damage or whatever
are you a guardian?
nice
Has a problem with Shaman...let's nerf Guardian.
perfectly balanced
i rly think, u guys smoking some good donki kong every day

hmmm
Ono
i feel like that's not accurate
any guardian druid who wants to do a wargame
me on my DH tank vs you
i play EU
i can invite you and slaughter you
π
i aint joking
Ok I blocked him
You want Guardian Nerfs then come in here wanting to fight any Guardian and claiming to destroy them on a DH. So are Guardians OP or are you just OP?
moonfire with guardian shit, deals too much damgur too
prolly smart guardians also use the caster raid trinkets
in some comps
when feral buff
yes
no

is BFA pvp considered better and more balanced than Legion?
no
ok
I think yes
just found a multibot with 7 Guardian Druids all running Protector of the pack
that looks fun 
uh is any druid spec gna be good in 8.3? it's lookin kinda trash rn from what i can tell but maybe im wrong?
Actually that many PoTPβs might work against him. Kite mobs and NPCβs into them. A hard hitting rare mob might gib one or two of them if you can get their health down a little. If he is in Mechagon get him to chase you by the Anarchid Rare. A few of them will get webbed. It will through off the macros/commands.
That many Den Motherβs might be nasty
Feral and boomie are ok, feral benefits from having a good comp in jungle while boomie doesnt have people willing to play with, but I don't think it's particularly worse than feral
Yeah but mostly cuz hunters q jungle
Feral and boomie have the same potential, it's just that surv is also good and can kinda carry in damage if the feral does good cc
Boomie just doesnt have partners
I played some 2s as boomie yesterday
Lost most of it cuz I'm complete ass at it but
The games we won, boomie damage feels fine
Definitely need nature's balance, I tried warrior of elune and it's not very impressive idk
But I think new moon is the play
Really?
with mw i think
not 100% sure about the healer
dont remember
yes
they stomped drainers dk dh's
Honestly
or no
Crazy cc chains
With root beam, trap, stun, cyclone
You right
Surv boom rsham
He does mad damage too
Probably 70% of it is dots but
Still
they had insane pressure
like ww with both tank trinkets
had to kite whole game
and they randomly killed dk

I'm watching the game
Drainer's vod
The traits make a lot of sense
2x bf focus, 1x arcanic pulsar, 1x gory regen with incite the pack on the same piece
i dont think so, he was forced to play deffensive
He has the mechagon heal card haha
the good part about jungle is, games are mostly faster, cuz priest cant outheal for long
but ye,. about boomy
i dont think so its that bad
honestly
prolly not rly fun to play
same as feral, cuz fucking aids in arena
ye
same here, i came back like week or two ago, from classic
no way to find someone to play
as feral
but as dk
easy pz
even my destro got 1720 or something with 390 ilvl
yes
true
but with 2 chamans
2x grounding
2xsheer
aids
RSHAM ELEMSHAM SHAMELIO
Hope dh meme will die before next week
But formy looks very motivated to keep the meme alive
Cuz people wanna climb
And at the end of the day if you keep adding asterisks to your achievements people will think you're a clown
if someone climbs to 2.5k as guardian
and then plays feral
will blizz know he mained guardian?
"I was 3k in seaon 3 of bfa" nobody is gonna question what you played really
But if you go "I was 2.6k in season 3 BUT IT WAS AS BOOMIE AND BOOMIE WAS WEAK" you'll sound like a moron
The fuck you mean will blizz know?
Haha
Nah that's dumb
I mean he got rank 1
THat's the achievement
That's what matters
btw they already made nulificaiton dynamo
be affected by line of sight
i guess thats mostly arena related
so after all they took notice of stuff
its in 8.3 notes
do you think
that Havoc DHs, destro locks, fire mages and assassi rogues
are more OP than bears in pvp?
i just hope that if blizz does indeed nerf bears
they wont do something like
"Frenzied regen reduced by 50% in pvp combat"
as bears will become non existant then
it should be their honor talent protector of the pack
that is simply removed or change from 20% to 5% reduction
yes
but then just make them impossible to queue
i think they should be super tanky but hit like paper in pvp
just go triple stealthy and guardian
wait for damp
cuz he doesnt take dmg
poff oneshot healer
I bet they don't want to lose those subscriptions as some players who would lose their pvp tank would quit. LOL
higher ranked guardians
are still extremely few
in order for them to become visible in blizz eyes
maany more must start playing them i guess
there are 39 guardians above 2k in euroe 3v3s
thats laughable
people dont complain about them cuz of high ranked arena but cuz of bgs/world pvp i guess (could be wrong though)
And boomie surv rsham yesterday
Stop trying to look at armory numbers tho
Supatease is queueing guardian bullshit but shows as resto on armory
Cuz he logged off as resto
but how can we possibly know
Same with thug's druid
any relevant info whatsoever without that
How can we know waht's broken?
I mean
You just play the game, understand it
Look at the numbers and the kits
And watch games
There was like 3 teams playing MLD when cloud9 was winning lan tournaments with it
But 9 people on ladder queueing it so the comp must not be goood?
Like
How many people play a spec is indicative of something, but you shouldn't draw conclusions from it
Especially cuz europe armory is buggy as fuck
For things like arenamate
Half the time it cant parse things from russian servers
Or german servers
Or whatever
Sometimes it does from russian
Sometimes not
I know sometimes this season I looked at pvpleaderboards and Cassidy was missing
Cassidy isnt russian so it's not just russian servers
You should hit up cocklordxx
Guy I played with last night
He's australian
what would a 10 Guardian druid RBG team look like?

@vestal citrus ur dh dc
Wtfff
Leave arena!!!
Wow
Seems hard
Why did you put the "try" in that sentence?
Seems kinda useless
does anyone know if resto druid wowhead post had been updated ? It's saying Lucid/Strife Major + Ever rising/Lucid dream minor, but i almost always see rdruid with crucible
Generally you play crucible or conflict major but some higher rated teams play lucid now and again for lobg mana games but hobestly crucible is fine every game
Conflict against double dps comps in 2s
alright ty
nah pvp one
@calm breach It's disabled in that for balance purposes.
Does anyone know how faction changes effect pvp rating? Will I lose my current arena 3s standing?
Okay cool but everything else carries over?
Apperciate the info
@rich crag Dasmn
good rogue mage needed buffs
@vestal citrus do u know anything about crafting gear in next season ?
Do u need some shit from raid
To Craft IT?
Rly
So should i preperoni?
Ahh
That's super poggers
Hmm
But what's better
Engi or lw
I dont think so i will have enough shit to Craft both?
Without raiding
Ok
Ye, but the thingy, u get a lot from raid
Like 10 per hc boss
Lol
Hmm
How about bs?
Is IT the same as lw?
I have like 300-400 on both characters
The explusom or something
How many do i need
Ok
The engi head super good...
Its also super good vs jungle
And its even good vs dk warrior team
SiΕce weapon is a bleed ofc
And it crits for 22k
With only 430ilvl
Can
Engi helm
Remove bleed in arena?
I thought someone told me it couldn't
Jesus
That's fucking op
Wtf
It removes all the time
Soo stupid
And it was bugged for a while
Cuz deff traits were 100% in pvp
From the head
Not 50%
Gotta stop dat
na it wont
Hey guys, do you know good guide on Feral 2v2 playstyle? I mean tips on when/how to kite, kill conditions, target selection etc. Many thanks
Pinned messages
Ok
it's official
DH tank defeats guardian druid in arena wargame match
at 85% dampening the bear died
my meta procs are unaffected by dampening
and can heal me for 150-200k
gg
thats only possible with full magic dmg build and crucible of flame for max burst dps on the bear
everythign physical that hits it is just 0 dmg
cuz of stupidly high armor and brambles
we were similar item level, same essences etc etc
u rly hate your life
?
you missed a lot @obtuse ice
daily remember that if you play feral you frend
what if i play feral aff guardian
Disgust
The only way they dont nerf guardian
Is if they dont nerf anything at all
If they make any pvp balancing at the beginning of next season
Guardian nerf will be in it
yes but how likely is that to you?
Very
Considering they added corruption effects TO PVP TRINKETS
I think it's clear they are looking at pvp
They are just clueless
But I think guardian nerf is super likely
alright
i guess we are gettign that in the upcoming weeks then
it will become clear by a month i hope
DH isn't that strong tbh
DH is definitely that strong
You're tripping
DH in 2s has absolutely minimal counterplay
In 3s*
I think DH has an issue of not enough people playing it
In 3s
The top melees in EU play a lot of tsg and twd
And arms / ww are both infinitely more fun to play
Than havoc
what kind of nerfs do you expect to guardian
masterful
i think they will nerf protector of the pack if anything
highly doubtful they will nerf its tankiness or smth
prolly big time nerf or removal of protector of the pack is my guess
i hope they just remove it
its a broken talent
but honestly i am a bit sceptical of that. If it doesnt happen in the pre-start/start of season 4 i highly doubt it will happen in 8.3.5 (if there is ever gonna be such a patch)
Brambles nerf, protector of the pack nerf
Maybe galactic guardian
they should remove protector of the pack
and nerf all guardian dmg in pvp
by 10-15% and that solves it
but again i am really not certain that will happen
i am super sceptical of seeing such a change considering the overwhelming amount of time that people have been complaining about all sorts of stuff thats relevant to complain about
if you are right about pvp tuning pass
we might find out next week
or coming weeks
π
they wont do anything, they dont need to give a shit about 0.5% of the playerbase
who will play anyway
theyll only do fixes for mythic anyway, its just luck if it impacts pvp positively
why are they like this while they keep wow arena as an esport thing..
so annoying
what are like staple feral pvp traits?
ok guys
next WoW arena tournament
call all your friends
next WoW arena tournament
I want 100k viewer
I want 100k viewer
my lil brother
started the game
I'll force him to watch
gz
but items i got suck π¦
untamed fero dogshit
depends on the playstyle
some prefer getting MI over IJ
some prefer IJ over MI
but in a perfect wolrd u want
3x MI 3xIJ
I see
jungle fury is ok, but dont think so thats good
well for osmeone who is not too experienced at feral, you recommend IJ?
1x GL is decent
ofc
nothing special, u get a proc and your maim is blinking
so that means u can press it deal good dmg
And I for instance have 2 MI and only 1 IJ, can I take that?
Okay, so I should not even take it unless I can get 2
link a pice
how do I link?
can I screenshot? xD
sure
Tides
u dont have IJ there
I said I only have 1 IJ
It's bad
I see
yhea
so 2 MI
but it will be poop dmg
is fine?
3 MI
any amount of MI is good
Your chest is garbo
Any amount of IJ is good too
you can get 3 MI so go for it
You'll still be pressing maim
and I assume


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