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clear pulsar
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And better damage too

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Haste isn't very good for damage

heady dragon
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@clear pulsar Thank you for that! Thats a bummer, I've been choosing my gear (430s) based on crit.

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crit 25% mastery 49% haste 17% and vers 6% currently ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

clear pulsar
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Crit is nerfed in pvp

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It's only 150% damage instead of 200%

heady dragon
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ah okay

obtuse ice
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BUT

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Crit

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=

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2 combo point

clear pulsar
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Yeah true

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Maybe mastery > crit can feel ok too

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But I think versa just too important

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And mastery is like very clearly the best stat

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Most ferals you see will have >60% mastery and >15% versa with current gear, that's what versa + mastery in most stats sum up to

heady dragon
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yeah, im still learning about vers and mastery. I'm an older player and use to the old basics before they introed that stuff so never paid any attention. oops

rigid linden
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I thought I updated guide to mastery vers

heady dragon
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yeah I'm boomie btw

rigid linden
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Oh nvm not my mojo haja

obtuse ice
heady dragon
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mastery still better than crit with boomie? I shouldve mentioned that at beginning, mb

clear pulsar
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OH

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YOURE BOOMIE

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Yeah haste #1

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Cuz of cast times

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And also good for damage

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Same applies for crit tho

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Especially cuz boomie doesnt have any crit-specific mechanic

obtuse ice
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leech

rigid linden
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Lmfao

obtuse ice
lime light
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@obtuse ice arcane hpal feral?

obtuse ice
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bro

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don't talk to me again

lime light
obtuse ice
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did I faced you?

lime light
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yup

obtuse ice
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What was

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you

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who were you

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I'm losing my english

lime light
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๐Ÿค

obtuse ice
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ok gona check

clear pulsar
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WHy arcane tho

lime light
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i almost one deag your arcano in opener

obtuse ice
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Mesmart

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actually our first arena

lime light
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ye, u survied pretty long

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we just should kill arcane, he was face tanking

clear pulsar
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@lime light do you have 3x mi? PogChamp

obtuse ice
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see how bad I am

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XD

lime light
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u iplayed good

obtuse ice
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I try to disoriend players

lime light
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@clear pulsar i have 2 ferals, but dont rly play them

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rn

obtuse ice
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with pro 500 cr plays

lime light
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i have 3x IJ 2xGL 1x MI and 2xIJ and 2xMI 2xGL

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@obtuse ice to make u happy

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czaman caster 3 spells

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in 5 min 30 sec

obtuse ice
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czaman ?

lime light
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resto shaman

obtuse ice
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THIS IS SUPPSOED TO MAKE ME HAPPY

lime light
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...

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iam tryin ok?

obtuse ice
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Pro

clear pulsar
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BRO

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Hold up lemme open wow again

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To show you something

lime light
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btw

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can u spellsteal

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wolf

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iam not sure

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i mean, can u dispel it as mage

obtuse ice
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you can

lime light
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ok

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that mage was dog

obtuse ice
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I mean

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I beat him as feral in 1V1

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when he use time wrap

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and

lime light
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๐Ÿ˜‚

obtuse ice
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Idk the english name

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hang-gliding

lime light
clear pulsar
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Slowfall

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?

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Ignore pain

obtuse ice
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the triangle

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green thing

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that makes you fly

clear pulsar
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Is that a prot warrior or just arms with prot trait?

lime light
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its a trait for prot that u can use as arms

clear pulsar
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Right

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That's what I thought

lime light
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this comp is disugsting

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but dk dh rsham

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thats like next level

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no skill sucking pve bosses dicks

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into r1

clear pulsar
obtuse ice
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Parapente Goblin

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you see

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what is it

clear pulsar
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Yeah this was dk dh rsham

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Oh goblin glider

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Yeah

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The item

obtuse ice
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GLIDER!

clear pulsar
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Feral life

lime light
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deathstrike life

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imagine hitting dk in 2k20

clear pulsar
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Are you mesmart?

lime light
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๐Ÿคฃ

clear pulsar
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Haha great name

lime light
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yeah

clear pulsar
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My friend made a destro

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Bolthurrdurr

lime light
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XD

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literally cant die

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even if i try dying i cant die

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same as destro, i made new destro 390 ilvl, queued at 1.9k mmr we won every game

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i can go, make a tea i come back and 3/4 hp

obtuse ice
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take a tea for me too pls

lime light
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yes, lemon balm

clear pulsar
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I just made a 25% haste set for when I play lunar inspiration

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Biggest pog

lime light
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โ“

clear pulsar
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Bro aint nobody trying to bite triple plate teams

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Just play lunar inspiration and triple dot everybody

obtuse ice
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Smart

lime light
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ye, triple dot and do nothing

clear pulsar
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Bro

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I was literally doing 20k dps

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Ooming the hpal

obtuse ice
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Ok

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Got the strat

clear pulsar
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With shit stats for it

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Like I still had 70% mastery which doesnt affect moonfire

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And 5% haste so super slow too

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And 3x MI

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And 2x iron jaws

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Which never proced cuz I wasnt biting

obtuse ice
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make a LI build

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worth

clear pulsar
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I mean

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I'm always gonna lose if I keep trying to just bite away at dk warr hpal

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As fucking feral spriest mw

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Might as well play something more engaging

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And I just play cyclo blast for when I get full clone on healer and want to try to kill someone low

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Trying to deal direct physical damage when people have 50% physical damage reduction is madness

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OOOOOH hold up

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I can use the mechagon rings

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For 164 haste proc

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Reforged some pieces for potm + bloodmist + gushing + jf

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This is gonna be huge pog man

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I swear

obtuse ice
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Are you

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feral or

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bommie

clear pulsar
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And neither of you play it

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LOL

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LOL

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Not even wrong

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Bro

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Stack mastery

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Play lucid dreams major

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Forget this consistent damage bullshit

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Only do big starsurge combos when you have incarn or lucid up

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Trust

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If beam means fury of elune, I think that's garbage

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Or if it means iris beam, also garbage

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Telling you tho

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Bro

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Trust ok?

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Warrior of elune + new moon

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2k mastery 1600 versa

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Voodoo doll and badge

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VoP minor cuz fuck consistent damage

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And lucid major

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THE PLAY

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I dont have any arcanic pulsar on my gear rn and my reforge is already too expensive

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But just wait for my friend to get online

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So I can show you the combo of surges

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Nah

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Like 100k

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For sure

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Probably pair badge with lucid dreams

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So it's a real cd

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Voodoo doll for the setup where you can full moon but dont have anything else

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It doesnt?

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Fuck

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But mostly for the astral power

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So you can double starsurge afterwards

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No buffs

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So you'd still have the lucid + badge go

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And the incarn go

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Tho now that I look at it incarn isn't even that strong anymore

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But starlod consistent

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Need big

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BIG

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Need to play with ele or destro

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Maybe a sub rogue can help with a lot of cross cc

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Looks like I had a weapon proc after the first lunar strike

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I think beam is just too slow

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To generate asp

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New moon into half moon is already 30 asp while beam takes 8s to generate 40

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And half moon alone does the same amount of damage

lime light
clear pulsar
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:(

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Dont do it

lime light
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was doin underrot for weekly

rigid linden
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Pig.

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That better be all!

lime light
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...

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look traits....

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..

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.

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.

rigid linden
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Lord farquad will be very dissapointed

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NANANNA I CAN'T TRICK ME WITH THE EL CLASSICO TRAIT SWITCH

lime light
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@clear pulsar

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am i rdy fo LI?

clear pulsar
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LOL

lime light
clear pulsar
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Prob both shit

lime light
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haha

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yeah

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i mean haste isnt bad for mythic+?

clear pulsar
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Feralpve set tho, is that really your highest simming trinket?

lime light
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no, its my alt feral

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iam doin mythic+ cap as guardian

clear pulsar
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Ah ok

lime light
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i q for any dungeon and insta inv

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i press thrash and swipe all day long

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and 2 chests

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i can sim tho

clear pulsar
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Yeah guardian is dumb easy and does actually pretty good damage

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I play 3x mi in dungeons for hella anima of lifes

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Would play emblem too but I never got one

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Or I scrapped it

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@vestal citrus during the 10s of lucid major you can do like 350k damage

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With fury of elune + warrior of elune

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Without crits

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This is with feral traits

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And I didn't put dots up

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I think each arcanic pulsar will add like 2k damage to the surges

lime light
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pve talk?

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๐Ÿ˜ 

clear pulsar
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No

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Boomie talk

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Pvp ofc

lime light
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ah u mean

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feeding

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how can u have fun playing boom in 2k20

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u just ded

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or u proc incarn 24/7 from vision

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and u kill something

clear pulsar
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Starting at full you can do 7 surges, fury of elune crit a few of the ticks, but lunar strike and surge didn't crit any

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Just the instant lunar strikes

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From warrior

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I didn't have any versa procs either

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WIth cns at 8 stacks it'd be like 5% more!?

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Or one that makes beam slow permanently people inside of it by like 80%

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So they take like 5s to walk out of it in any form

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I think that'd be cool

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Yeah that sucks

lime light
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the point is, dots are piss dmg

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literally no impact

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once they mean something boom will be op

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ye

clear pulsar
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But imagine this

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How much damage you can do in those few setups

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Prob wont work until much higher than like 2200

lime light
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play thorns cleave

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rdru boom feral

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2x blood of the enemy

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wild charge in

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put all 3 thorns on boomy

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bote

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33k crits

clear pulsar
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You'd probably have to go like every 1 min

lime light
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i played it with rdru feral ret haha

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but ghetto mmr

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like 1.9ish

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melee cleaves were dying

clear pulsar
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Prob cant cycle thru cds fast enough against really good teams

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But can be a thing until like duelist

lime light
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or pressure was rly insane

clear pulsar
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85k noncrit surge

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30k lunar strikes

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But I think new moon for the voodoo doll + full moon + 2 surges go would be better

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Then you have 3 gos

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Full moon, lucid major, and incarn

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Is it really nerfed?

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Would still be decent enough damage I think

lime light
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ofc it is

clear pulsar
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Cuz this is without arcanic pulsar

lime light
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they nerfed it, when added essences

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pretty sure

clear pulsar
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So with pulsar you could time it to have the short incarn up on the lucid major go too

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Im gonna see if my friends are around later

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To test in a wargame

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Since apprently people think duel isnt good enough

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Thing is

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Maybe boomie is prime rdru killer

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Beam over the stun so they cant wall

obtuse ice
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Guys

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lf mate

clear pulsar
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You just need to waddle over to them

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Without a slow

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While the dk spams chain on u

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Just catch them out of form full kidney with beam double evis triple surge 100-0d

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3x MI starsurges

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You can also have warrior of elune for that go, it's only 45s I didnt realize

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So you can go full moon surge surge lunar lunar surge

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With the voodoo doll on top

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Bro this is it

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The next level makeboomiegreatagain

obtuse ice
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who said

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bommie as bad

clear pulsar
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No one will say that

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Once glyph makes his stellar come back

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And SLAYS

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Get it? Stellar

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Cuz boomie

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Goddammit

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You might as well reroll guardian if you plan on playing dh

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Fucking disgusting afk shit

obtuse ice
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Lmfao

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Can we bring some

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Positivity in this chat please

edgy oxide
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there

obtuse ice
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Thx

edgy oxide
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and if you're still in the mood for holiday spirit xmasbear

obtuse ice
edgy oxide
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maybe you just to sit back and relax? ComfyBear

obtuse ice
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So relaxed thanks to you

opal smelt
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I don't think boomie is as bad as yall make it out to seem,it is slow as shit for pressure and no damage outside incarn,but I can still lure a tard dps away from heals and nuke it by myself while my unh dh sits heals

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But it does seem helluva lot weaker than all other classes

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Dropped druid and went monk and have been winning most matches

clear pulsar
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"I don't think boomie is as bad as yall make it out to seem"
"It does seem helluva lot weaker than all other classes"

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WHAT?

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Bro

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That's not logically sound

opal smelt
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Idk I'm high

clear pulsar
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Arent you always?

opal smelt
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True

obtuse ice
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Lol

opal smelt
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I just know I've had better success as boomy unh hpal vs rmp,we make rogue pop evasion and cloak fast then tunnel mage while ccing rogue off heals

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We were stuck at 1800-1900 cr

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Even tried guardian other shit,resto with dh dk and just wasn't fun,so went mw/ww monk and run walking dead or tsg

clear pulsar
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Why do you swap to mage once you force rogue's defensives?

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LOL

opal smelt
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idk, I was just doing what heals was bitching for

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couldn't los polys

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I'll probably try for higher next season and tone down the weed,thanks for all the incite,much appreciated

rigid linden
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Ive got a dh

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hes level 110 and deleted

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๐Ÿ˜„

clear pulsar
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Bro 52k max surge in pvp @vestal citrus

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That's literally a regular starsurge on dummy

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71k surge on dummy with same buffs, same everything

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52k on player

obtuse ice
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Chicken is the New meta

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Be ready boiiis S4

opal smelt
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how does yalls starsurge hit so low?

opal smelt
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nah, starsurge hits harder than that for sure, I know mine does in arenas

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52k is non crit low end

clear pulsar
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Maybe on someone with 0 versa

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Maybe if you have 3x arcanic pulsar and a 450 badge!?

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Idk

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Like

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This is with badge and incarn up

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With 55% mastery and 19% versa

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You better come with some screenshots or vods

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51.6k surge with incarn and badge up. 2k mastery, 1600 versa, 10769 spell power

obtuse ice
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And a bick D

lime light
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Nerf crucible pls

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So there is a choice sometime

obtuse ice
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Come on

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There

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Is choice

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Like bote sometimes

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C&S also

forest kite
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execute essence next patch

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maybe replaces flame

lime light
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C&s is never good after u can pick 2xminor

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Bote vs noobs

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And that's it

obtuse ice
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C&S good as major vs rogue mage x high rated player pick it

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Bote is nice in 2s when you need to one shot someone or its like dh rdru

lime light
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u lose too much damgur

forest kite
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anyone on ally eu that can help me with pvp feral stuff? (new to druid)

tardy hare
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drop the questions and we'll all be glad to help

forest kite
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okay

lime light
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if they question will be good enough @tardy hare will make a yt video about it Kappa

forest kite
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haha

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thats why right?

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what essences is the most powerfull and why?

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(feral)

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and yeah this stuff is pretty good to have am i right?

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/cast [nomod] Wild Charge
/cast [mod:shift,@focus] Wild Charge

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#showtooltip
/cast [nomod] Mighty Bash
/cast [mod:shift,@focus] Mighty Bash

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etc

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tried this out since the forms i wanted it on the same button to press

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#showtooltip
/cast [nomod] Cat Form
/cast [mod:shift] Travel Form
/cast [mod:alt] Bear Form

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But in reality i want to know about the tricks and tips that you can do as a feral or that you SHOULD do

karmic stag
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why are all arena/bg forums

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crying "guardian is broken"

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when barely anyone plays bear in pvp

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i mean they are what 1% of playerbase?

lime light
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its 1.5%

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feral is 1%

karmic stag
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well ye feral is non existant

lime light
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they destroy game for everyone, cuz the donkies do nothing and win, literally doin pve rotation, and preventing ppl to die

karmic stag
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almost 95% certain nothing is gonna be done

forest kite
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play what you want

lime light
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@forest kite crucible rank3>conflict if u want some deffensive vs comp that will kill u in stuns like rmx>bote rank 3 if u ruskie one shoter

karmic stag
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8.3 is coming in 10 days and patch notes are out

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thats gonna be the case in the next 10 months or so before next exp

forest kite
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@lime light ty!

lime light
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also complaing is a part of pvp arena

karmic stag
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they are good in 3s only though

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their burst potential is horrendous

lime light
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prolly also good for rbg

karmic stag
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ye

lime light
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and pretty good with dh's in 2s

karmic stag
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i am surprised as to why demon hunter tanks are so underrepresented in pvp though

lime light
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but facing dk dh rsham with full pve gear is also fun

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shaman never cast, dk dh will never die

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and rsham just run around in dog form PogChamp

karmic stag
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ye ๐Ÿ˜„

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well people have been crying DH is OP for 2 years already

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destro locks

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fire mages

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etc etc

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resto dudu

split kite
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i was wondering if any one can help me with a few questions so i heard guardian druid is for pvp this season what partner do we look for as a guardian druid also is there talents and azerite traits i should be looking for basically a pvp guiide has it been made yet or naw
also how does it work we heal who ever is in trouble?

tardy hare
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@rigid linden what essences u running for my boy @forest kite

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@forest kite yeah u can make different kind of macros, eveyrone prefers different ones since some have more keybinds availlable aswell etc

rigid linden
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Flame major, lucid and strife minor

karmic stag
split kite
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thank u a lot dj jam balaz

rigid linden
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season still

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offseason

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lmfaooo

obtuse ice
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XF

mighty totem
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Against rogue mage in 2s

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If i get caught with a sap in feral form

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Is there anything i can do live through combustion and vendetta

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Resto druid btw.

obtuse ice
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Don't get sap in feral form xD

mighty totem
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;-;

clear pulsar
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@karmic stag guardian makes games long and has 0 counterplay
Usually they play with dh, which also has almost no counterplay, you just lose by default if you cant burst down the 3 tankiest specs in the game, which most comps cant. Guardian dh rsham should only ever lose to like fire mage teams.
But contrary to those, fire mage has counterplay, fire mage isn't a tank that makes games take 10 min minimum
Vengeance isn't a thing cuz it does negative damage and doesn't have anything to make your teammates tankier like guardian or protp or protw. Living forever is just 1 part of it. People play tanks that can help you win the game, vengeance cant.

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Guardian doesnt do anything very specific, just spam thrash moonfire and exist

karmic stag
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๐Ÿ˜„

clear pulsar
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Outdamage everyone, outheal your own healer

karmic stag
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well right

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i guess they aint changing it though cuz 8.3 is almost out and thats what we will probably have till 9.0

clear pulsar
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Guardian is broken because it makes games unfun, and because it's better than both dps druid specs, which is unreasonable as it is a tank spec, which Blizzard has said in the past that they don't mind tank specs not being used in pvp

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Yeah probably, but there's usually additional tuning patch 2 weeks after the main patch drops

karmic stag
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yea but chances we will see anything change are minimal i would say

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has been like that for quite some time

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also people are crying about tons of other stuff and that thing in particular is definitely not the in focus i guess

clear pulsar
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I think guardian nerf is more likely than fire or dh

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Also you talked about % of representation

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That doesnt make sense

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Cuz a lot of guardian players are just boomie/feral mains who go guardian in pvp cuz their specs suck

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But when they log out in their main spec, armory will show them as not guardian

karmic stag
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ah yea

clear pulsar
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Looking at % on ladder for what is good or what is bad is dumb

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Cuz no one actually enjoys playing guardian either

wicked torrent
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Hi guys, do you know any good guides or videos for Boomkin 2v2? I've played few games and while doing 15k+ dps, I'm failing to kill healer/dps comps

karmic stag
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i guess if we dont see any changes in the next couple of weeks

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that would be it

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i dont expect blizz to do anything honestly

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people will just need to get used to that reality

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btw legion pvp was not far off there've been whole expansion with tanks being completely off the scale

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that is probably the 1st expansion EVER where blood DKS are not unkillable gods

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for real

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balancing tanks is just hard i guess

clear pulsar
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That is the reality of boomkin rn, unless you can pump starsurges off a cc chain on enemy healer, you'll have a hard time killing, especially in 2s where it's so easy for enemy dps to run to a pillar and avoid your damage @wicked torrent

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Skill-capped just put out a balance video on youtube

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But bdk was never relevant after wotlk is the thing

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Being unkillable is whatever

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It still doesnt make you win games

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Bdk was unkillable in legion and only 1 person played it seriously in arena

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But it also had a specific win condition and gameplan that you could counter

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Unlike guardian

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Guardian isn't just unkillable

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It does mad damage while mad healing and making their entire team tankier

karmic stag
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i get it yea

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u are right ye

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the honor talents

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are totally off the charts cuz den mother grants 15% max hp not only to the bear but to the whole team

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prot of the pact is 20% dmg reduction

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and synergizes with brambles

clear pulsar
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Yeah brambles is insanity

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As feral I cant even try to play for big dots that go thru armor cuz brambles exists

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And will just make my dots useless

karmic stag
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I have DH tank and in 1v1 scenarios my tankiness far surpasesses that of bear when i fight 1v1

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but i provide nothing to the team

clear pulsar
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Yeah dh is really tanky

karmic stag
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and not in 1v1 scanarios

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i am squishier

clear pulsar
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Especially in pvp cuz you dont need 100% uptime on defensives

karmic stag
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cuz guardian is passively tanky

clear pulsar
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But veng just

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Doesnt do damage

karmic stag
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the dmg is horrendous

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๐Ÿ˜„

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ye

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its weird

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they nerfed prot paladin immediately after start of expansion

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hand of the protector healing was nerf slapped

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thats why i am saying i doubt they will do anything about bears

clear pulsar
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Yeah

karmic stag
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there is like 9-10 more months max of expansion and thats it

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who cares...

clear pulsar
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I'm still playing protp feral tho PogChamp

karmic stag
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๐Ÿ˜„

clear pulsar
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Since they nerfed offhealing by huge amounts, ret feral isn't as good

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So prot it is

karmic stag
#

and what is the best tank spec for rbg flag carry now?

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bear/dh?

split kite
#

any one know a good partner to look for in lfg for if im a guardian druid

clear pulsar
#

Probably still vengeance if you're really good at kiting

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@tropic schooner might be into rbgs!?

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Idk

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@split kite dh/dk/arms is what you usually see

karmic stag
#

i heard fire mage is good with bear

clear pulsar
#

With a rsham/rdru

split kite
#

kk got it will look for dh dk or arms in lfg thanks man

karmic stag
#

people wont be really willign to play with bear btw

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just saying

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they are always sceptical when seeign tanks

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even bears

clear pulsar
#

Melees are hella willing to play with guardian

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Dh guardian rsham is legit free rating

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DH only needs to mana burn

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Everyone can binge watch the witcher until duelist

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Or elite

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Cuz I mean

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If you rerolled DH

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You already lack character

#

So you might as well queue guardian dh

split kite
#

lul

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any one have a dh to play 3v3

karmic stag
#

search in queue

split kite
#

kk

lime light
#

play 2x dh pls

karmic stag
#

the most immortal thing in the game in pure slugfest 1v1 fight

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is by far demon hunter tank with 2 tank trinkets and meta proc build

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๐Ÿ˜„

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but thats irrelevant anyway

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still fun

fleet panther
#

is balance or feral better in 2's right now with a healer partner?

tiny oar
#

Feral hpal slaps a bit

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Could do feral rdruid too

clear pulsar
#

Feral for sure

fleet panther
#

i shall try it out then. I'm debating which character to bring into 8.3 for like all content...so raid, m+, pvp. Currently am a dps in raid, but I am tank for our m+ group, and my 2's partner is only a healer lol. I'm debating between druid and monk right now on which class would best multiclass

clear pulsar
#

Ww is getting buffed

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It's also stronger in pvp than feral, and the buff should bring it up to speed in raid

fleet panther
#

and i feel brm is about on par with guardian

clear pulsar
#

Right now? It's far better

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In pve

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Maybe changes next patch

fleet panther
#

yeah...with stagger change and also fixing the orb generation bug

obtuse ice
#

Feral disc

ocean barn
#

Anyone. Have a TLDR Gaurdian 2s build

sly comet
#

happybear hey guys ^^

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2s ? man....3s bear Okay, 2s you're asking too much ๐Ÿ˜„

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@obtuse ice help him plz ๐Ÿ˜„

fleet panther
#

could always just pair with a DH as guardian lol

ocean barn
#

Oh really
@sly comet

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Thatโ€™s wha t Iโ€™m doing

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Iโ€™m more specd to pve

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Just curious azurite set up

fleet panther
#

supatease had a good video on guardian arena

stray sigil
#

what has this channel become ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ

ocean barn
#

Lol

sly comet
#

i saw dh/guardian once, it was real cancer ^^ for 3s as mentionned above you can look at supatease video ๐Ÿ™‚

fleet panther
#

I saw pikabu wreck a guardian/dh comp lol...

karmic stag
#

who is pikabu?

fleet panther
#

rogue...might be pikaboo actually

karmic stag
#

kk

fleet panther
#

he's on The Move...think he's #1 NA for 3's right now

karmic stag
#

right

lime light
karmic stag
#

what spec?

obtuse ice
#

affli

lime light
obtuse ice
#

Blood taloons guys

clear pulsar
#

Bloodtalons lunar inspiration haste build

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Is the truth

lime light
#

horrible build does nothing

obtuse ice
#

maybe

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not LI

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but BT yhea

stray sigil
#

feral disc vs dh rsham do i just afk out

obtuse ice
#

that's how I enjoy feral

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Just go BT and bleed both

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and win

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ez

lime light
#

that does nothing till 60% damp

stray sigil
#

ya no

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i did bt and double bleed

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shit dont die

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and disc oom in 1s

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second i leave rsham alone he sonics his way over and spam purges

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but dh is mythic raider

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double tank trinkets

clear pulsar
#

Looks like

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You fukt

lime light
#

wtf

clear pulsar
#

@last owl

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Wtf?

lime light
#

bot remowing

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my msg

stray sigil
#

ya bot is mad

lime light
#

fuck that

#

i was writing it for soo long

#

cba now

stray sigil
#

ima just afk out

#

better for my mental

lime light
#

let dh follow disc, and los shaman

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and maybe u can kill them with maim proc ff

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or chase shaman spam purge

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in damp u lose

stray sigil
#

ya my disc wants me to go dh

lime light
#

2x bleed does nothing

stray sigil
#

but i dont see it working

lime light
#

he must blur nothing

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like they usually do

stray sigil
#

who needs blur when u uave bladedance :D

lime light
#

ye

stray sigil
#

that and hpriest lock just

#

pisses me so fucking much

lime light
#

but if u get maim proc, full maim ff schism 2xcrucible

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he might flop

#

but if u dont feel lucky

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just go next

stray sigil
#

ya maybe if rsham afks for 2mins

lime light
#

dont think so ๐Ÿ˜„

stray sigil
#

i can beat it with hpal actually

lime light
#

i played some dk dh rsham the other day

stray sigil
#

but disc feels impo

lime light
#

i swear most no skill shithead comp

#

that i played in my life

stray sigil
#

i dont even q 3s anymore lol

lime light
#

rsham dont cast, just run in dog form with the essence that spread hp

stray sigil
#

i just get mad instantly

lime light
#

dh too tanky

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dk too tanky

stray sigil
#

gr8 season

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for sure

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:D

lime light
#

i would only say, the guardian comps

#

are more braindead

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or rmpala

stray sigil
#

mld

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:)

lime light
#

prolly

#

but u can beat it easly as dh dk

#

i play sim

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and get free cc every 20 sec

stray sigil
#

still fucking canver of highest degree

lime light
#

its rly cancer if u play that as feral

stray sigil
#

:)

mighty totem
#

I'm playing with a windwalker as a resto druid

#

How should we be winning games

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Through cyclone chains or stun chains on the main target

#

Should we be looking for dampening

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Or looking to end quicjly

#

And as a windwalker should he swap targets a lot or stick to one

obtuse ice
#

Better than nothing

#

Versa socket right

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I socket versa everything

#

Top deeps

#

Outdamaged enemy dk

#

Oom'd enemy hpal

obtuse ice
#

are you really

#

playing

#

BT mf

clear pulsar
#

Ofc

#

Vs triple plate?

#

Like

#

Why would I wanna use bite

#

35k tops

karmic stag
#

guys a 434 ilvl player facing 10 ilvl higher one in arena (444) is pretty small difference for pvp considering there is scaling right

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even if the lower ilvl player is disadvantaged the margin is definitely much smaller than in pve am i right?

obtuse ice
#

10ilvl yes

karmic stag
#

btw

#

there is scaling in outside world duels

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right?

obtuse ice
#

yes

karmic stag
#

ok

rigid linden
#

@clear pulsar have you thought about playing the increaseed ms and healing recived talent with that build instead of ferocious wound?

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I take that or heart of the wild

#

If I think they go on my partner

#

I play heart

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Cuz offheals big

rigid linden
#

ahh

clear pulsar
#

I mean we're trash

#

So it's kinda whatever

#

These games are always funsies

obtuse ice
#

Yoyo this looks hype build

#

But I dropped sporepods

clear pulsar
#

Yeah

#

I mean

#

I prob wouldnt play this build if I was queueing like jungle

#

Or fmp with fire mage

#

And one issue is that

#

The bleeds scale better with mastery than haste

#

But moonfire doesnt scale with mastery at all

#

So it's hard to make a set for it

#

Cuz I dont wanna drop versa

west oasis
#

@mighty totem you got alot of options as ww/rdruid but mainly through incap -> clone setups, you win games

#

ww swaps based on what defensives are up

#

for example, vs warr/rdruid

#

the ww will swap off d stance and try to catch druid out of bear

#

but if warr is not in d-stance

#

he can make a swap back to the warr and potentially get a kill off

mighty totem
#

Should i be damaging with him or staying back

#

And against assa/disc and dh/rdruid we usually struggle on who to go on

#

Could you give any tips for those matchups?

west oasis
#

you damage with him when he has fof up

#

and you stay in that fof

#

because they have a talent that can block melee attacks

#

otherwise, i wouldn't try to be too aggressive with cat form

#

you can still do stuff like put a rake dot and sunfire/moonfire

#

but dont go to crazy when trying to get a bite off unless those 2 specific comps are on the run

#

but in both comps, i would say look to kill the dps

#

get fat cc chains on the healer

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if you're dying to assa alot, ask the monk if he can save fof for the kidneys

#

then once you're out of kidney

#

you can wild charge to priest and get some sort of cc chain off

#

for rdruid/dh, i'm not very experienced vs them tbh

#

the only thing i've done successfully is kite the dh to his healer

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and got double legsweep cleave off

#

seems to work well but i didnt face that many decent rdruid/dh

mighty totem
#

If I damage with him using his Fof, wouldn't the opponent make a swap onto me since I'm in cat farm

#

Though, thanks a lot for answering my questions already!

west oasis
#

ah yes, i forgot to mentioned we played with grapple weapon in s1

#

so it worked for us that i could stay in cat with his fof + turbo fists

#

and if i got swapped to by a rogue, he would just grapple weapon

#

if he trinketed

#

he would stun

#

but that's only rogue

#

dont think the grapple strat works well vs dh

mighty totem
#

Ah, that's a good idea!

#

Also, sorry if i'm bombarding you with questions but - I've seen druids run Oceanic restoration enchant and some run Machinists brilliance enchant, how do they make the choice?

west oasis
#

eh, i say just go with machinists. At the very top level of gameplay

#

every bit of mana could make a difference for them

#

so that's why you see some go oceanic still (even though it's nerfed?)

#

but below the top level of play, most games arent won due to mana

#

so i dont think oceanic's mana value is that good vs the secondaries you get with machinists

vestal rain
#

When playing RMD with frost mage, do i go feral aff most games?

karmic stag
#

@clear pulsar and considering our yesterday talk about bear's opness in pvp i just realized once 8.3 hits they will be more absurd with the new weapon an'zig vra that lets you heal 2% of your MAX hp and do that as dmg on auto attacks with 25% proc chance translating in approx 1 proc per 10 seconds considering you just stay in melee range lol

patent dove
#

@vestal rain that totally depends on you guys. RM have great peels but if you expose yourself too recklessly youโ€˜ll be killed. To get value out of feral aff isnโ€˜t that easy in 3s. So depending on how safe you feel iโ€˜d suggest guardian

lime light
#

Hi

#

Boomkin nerfs when

#

Guardian buffs soon?

#

Cye

karmic stag
#

here u go balance nerfs in 8.3

#

Moonfire damage and periodic damage reduced by 10%.
Sunfire damage and periodic damage reduced by 10%.

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

anything else?

lime light
#

Yes feral bleeds nerf

#

Too much damgur

karmic stag
#

i like your sarcasm

#

sad reality is 8.3 is last patch

#

and changes are sparce and scarce

#

enjoy what we have

#

corruption is goona break pvp way more

#

๐Ÿ˜„

obtuse ice
#

Blablabla

lime light
#

Tbh there is a ring on ptr that gives like 15% crit

#

couldyounot ๐Ÿ‘

#

Hpal with pure pve max crit gear

livid wasp
#

Theyre gonna fix corruption for pvp, why would a multi billion company let something like that through

#

Kapp

high spade
karmic stag
#

@livid wasp how are they gonna fix it?

#

no plans for that

#

nothing yet highly doubt it

livid wasp
#

Best would be to disable the effects entirely in pvp combat

karmic stag
#

ye but it aint gonna happen ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

#

highly doubt it

obtuse ice
#

Lol

steel kite
#

hi my fellow druid companions, am i understanding that in pvp arcanic pulsar beats streaking stars?

#

I thought streaking stars was the best trait for boomy in general

lavish pelican
#

Hey guys i have a question its pvp related but not feral. I am playing 2v2 using Elvui dont like the vanilla unit frames and nameplates.The problem is i have no idea how to make it so i can see the DoT's he placed on someone because i can only see what personal debuffs i have on the enemy player

obtuse ice
#

What is the question lol

lavish pelican
#

i want to see what debuffs my teamate has on the enemy Nameplates

clear pulsar
#

@steel kite streaking stars is giganerfed in pvp

steel kite
#

@clear pulsar so this is where u been hiding face ๐Ÿ˜„ Haven't seen you around the dh discord in ages

#

I recently picked up boomy, does that mean i shouldnt even have one at all

#

Cause i have 1 and 3 pulsars

clear pulsar
#

Yeah fuck dh discord

#

I havent played dh in a long time and

#

Dh mains thinking dh doesnt need a nerf tilt me

#

Arcanic pulsar is the only trait that matters

#

Bf focus is good too

#

Everything else is kinda whatever

#

Maybe some mastery procs or something can be good

#

Or defensive traits like waking dream and gory regeneration depending on the affinity you play

#

But like, having streaking stars is whatever

steel kite
#

Got it

#

๐Ÿ‘

clear pulsar
#

This scammer again

#

@still magnet

still magnet
#

$pb 206153143489265664

last owlBOT
#

Done.

still magnet
#

ty

clear pulsar
lavish pelican
#

Guys i am playing 2v2 Feral Holy pala but i struggle a lot against Resto Druids. I have played against bad one which were easy wins but i played a couple that really tilted the shit out of me. What am i supposed to do against Resto Druid in 2v2?

obtuse ice
#

Imo

#

You need oneshot him

#

you need you and pala burst his face

#

Maybe with BOTE you can os him

#

or 2 crucible 2nd and 3rd

#

with TF

#

Like wait some damp

#

go on the dps

#

wait he use bark or something on it and swap quick

karmic stag
#

lol

#

5 melees attacking me and i as guardian

#

survived for more than 2 mins

#

brambles did 5k hps

#

๐Ÿ˜„

#

i mean there probably isnt a more painful thing in the whole game

#

than being a melee class and trying to kill bear

#

the insane armor with pretty much 2 iron furs (23k armor) bringing damage to incredibly low levels and then the already lowered dmg absorbing further 900-1000 is just bonkers

lavish pelican
#

So the answer is just survive until damp sets in.What do you thing is the most ideal % damp to start

obtuse ice
#

no idea

#

gotta try out

lime light
#

@karmic stag u are getting blaclisted

#

"and i as guardian"

karmic stag
#

๐Ÿ˜„

obtuse ice
#

he is just doing it to make people mad

livid wasp
#

people that put their effort and time into making other people mad

#

I wonder what theyre like

obtuse ice
#

I belive we've all done that one day

#

Tony getting farmed by Whazz ;((((

lime light
#

yes ofc

obtuse ice
#

don't say that...

#

he isn't playing clone

#

actually trolling

clear pulsar
#

He rarely plays clone

#

Just slay

obtuse ice
#

I know

#

xd

#

but idk why

clear pulsar
#

Idk if sitting on disc is the play for whaazz

#

Whaazz showing respect to our boy tony

obtuse ice
#

kreygasm

lime light
#

he is soo tanky with this pve shit

#

LOL

obtuse ice
#

xD

clear pulsar
#

Tony?

#

I think he's not even playing tank trinkets

lime light
#

he is playing 2x tank

#

trinket

rigid linden
#

Finally got my fkn glad man

#

Reeee

#

Now I can tank down to 2100 helping my mates

#

Ez

karmic stag
#

got what?

obtuse ice
#

Gladiator

#

mount

karmic stag
#

ah glad

#

๐Ÿ˜„

obtuse ice
#

not even streaming his game

#

I'm sure he played bear

#

100%

rigid linden
#

LOL

#

Wow...

#

Well I can confirm fmp is still so dogshit

obtuse ice
#

LOL formy

#

not even

#

contestating what Isaid....

rigid linden
#

I'm in bed but I can link a scr shot of the glad game if I must LOL

#

I will never

#

EVER

#

EVERRR

#

Be a bear rat

#

IN PVP

south nacelle
#

Do we expect changes for s4? not seen pvp mentioned

obtuse ice
#

I need prooF

rigid linden
#

U ACTUALLY NEED PROOF

#

AEHI

#

I AM THE FERAL KING

obtuse ice
#

Show feral

#

stats

#

so you don't have purged it

#

@rigid linden

rigid linden
#

sure sec

#

cant believe u think id play guardian btw

#

purely insulted

obtuse ice
#

gg

rigid linden
#

SMH

obtuse ice
#

stream the games next time...

rigid linden
#

i tried but my obs was breaking

obtuse ice
#

true that...

rigid linden
#

guess what char i just restored

obtuse ice
#

show

rigid linden
#

incase feral is dogshit next patch too

#

im converting to the trash side

clear pulsar
rigid linden
#

i havnt touched this guy since legion LOL

stray sigil
#

leave it untouched or u become scum

rigid linden
#

I AM WOKE

#

I AM MY SCARSSSSSSSSSSSS

stray sigil
#

u r scum

obtuse ice
#

Go bear

rigid linden
#

where did my chaos blades go

#

im sad LOL

#

Those were so cool

obtuse ice
#

Kikoo

clear pulsar
#

Looks like rogue mage is kinda popular @rigid linden

rigid linden
#

just abit

#

LMAO

rigid linden
#

DH leach is like having natures vigil up

#

100% of the time

#

LMAO

#

lmfaooo

obtuse ice
opal smelt
#

that average dummy hits as my boomy

#

queueing now

#

stacking mostly haste and being care free on secondaries

#

as for boomy stats I'm running 1,037 crit 1,853 haste little to no vers at 83 mastry is at 855

clear pulsar
#

Yeah @vestal citrus I tested it the other day

#

It's absurd how weak starsurge is

#

Really do need big haste versa build for dots

#

And just hope people die from 20s cc chain on healer

#

Or haste mastery

opal smelt
#

I have had shit for luck on versa drops

clear pulsar
#

The only crit is from necklace

#

Perfect

opal smelt
#

is it a flat nerf across all pvp? Cause I know I have hit 118k starsurges in rbgs on non fcs

clear pulsar
#

There are also other stuff like

#

Skyfury totem

#

Dh debuff yeah

#

Still tho

#

It's as weak as biting on plate

opal smelt
#

nah, my rbg lead always lets spriest or lock get that and I'm usually base bitch

clear pulsar
#

Feels awful

opal smelt
#

I use clf as major as well for the 5% increase,also run aura

#

it's like blizz is telling boomies to reroll guardian

clear pulsar
#

Yeah glyph no joke

#

Boomie has so many negative modifiers in pvp

#

Haha

opal smelt
#

why no rmp?

#

been seeing a bunch of arcane recently too

#

I'm pretty much dropping my druid for the time being since it isn't as fun as it used to be and just went mw monk,gearing a lock as well

#

also with the lunar build for feral,would it curently be worth using shiver lance and trinket as well?