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clear pulsar
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Is that a EU thing

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I've never seen double ret

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Long time since double dh

opal smelt
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nah this is NA

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also seen triple ret in 3s

clear pulsar
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Ah

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I understand

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What I'm looking at

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Yeah guardian dh rsham is the comp most guardians run

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Sometimes with ww or dk, but dh is just free wins a lot of the time

opal smelt
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I was running guardian,arms,hpally

clear pulsar
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Unless they big suck

opal smelt
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I just feel really dirty playing a tank in arenas

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speaking of which I have seen a lot of prot warrior/dh in 2s in the 1700 - 1900 bracket

clear pulsar
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Never seen that

opal smelt
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It's pretty aids

round dome
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prot war/ww monk is pretty cool

fair pecan
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hand up

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Why is Moonkin Form you get from Balance Affinity a fucking cooldown?

clear pulsar
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Only as feral

fair pecan
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Feels bad man

clear pulsar
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What the fuck are you trying to do in boomkin form?

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It doesnt do anything

fair pecan
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You're fucking right -- it doesn't

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That's weird

clear pulsar
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It is weird

fair pecan
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It's literally just armor rofl

clear pulsar
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But it is what it is

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The damage is negligible

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Affinities as a whole are stupid

fair pecan
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I personally really like affinity as druid, I think it's one of the more interesting talent lines in the game. That said, it's still not great and only speaks to how shitty other talent rows are

round dome
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I kind of like affinities, all 3 are viable in different spots for rdruid

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most talent rows there's just 1 obvious pick and 2 placeholders

fair pecan
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Right. It feels more icky for Feral and Balance I'd imagine -- Feral feels like it should strictly always take Resto if you're solo

round dome
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yeah

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it could certainly be improved

fair pecan
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Hopefully they do more "unpruning" for more classes and make the base classes feel more interesting

clear pulsar
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It shouldnt be an affinity

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I'm a fucking druid

round dome
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what shouldnt be an affinity?

clear pulsar
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The talents shouldn't exist

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The specs should be balanced around the fleshed out kits

fair pecan
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Right. You're just making the argument that every Druid should have forms and abilities in said forms. e.g. Ferocious Bite shouldn't have to be a talent just because you're Balance

clear pulsar
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Kinda yeah

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Not all spells but

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If I'm forced out of melee range, pressing moonfire and sunfire should do more than 300dps combined

fair pecan
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I could be on board with that. My issue is I definitely think specializing in something should matter, and what I like about affinity is it helps me feel like I'm picking a "sub" specialization

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My problem with it is how unimpactful it actually feels. Me going Guardian Affinity in raids doesn't mean I can help off-tank something really

round dome
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make ysera's gift and rejuv baseline, make frenzied regen baseline, then it's just a choice between bonus range, swiftmend, or 6% damage reduction

fair pecan
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That feels like a shitty choice, IMO

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Also presumably you mean moonkin form as well?

round dome
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sure

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moonkin form shouldnt make you immune to poly unless you're a boomkin though

fair pecan
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Why? Every other form does

round dome
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why should it?

fair pecan
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It's a form and that's consistent with other Druid forms.

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I definitely think you should have to actually be balance or spec into balance affinity to get it

round dome
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honestly just get rid of moonkin form like they did with tree form and give boomkins the passives

fair pecan
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Moonkin form too iconic tho

round dome
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if you glyph it you don't even notice

fair pecan
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Also. Maybe not the right channel for it, but is anyone else excited for fucking 60 cap?

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Korrak's Revenge feels fucking incredible in terms of being able to actually kill healers

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and I really hope that is closer to the TTKs we see in 9.0

clear pulsar
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Yeah @round dome I think something like that is good

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My other idea was like

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Make the affinities give you the base effect of the mastery

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Of the other specs

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So if you spec into resto affinity, your heals will do 5% more per hot you have on the target

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Just the base value

fair pecan
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@vestal citrus so far, it seems like it will 😄

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@vestal citrus that is factually incorrect. Top teams do not target healers because the TTK is balls-awful.

Everything they've been doing in the last several expansions under the hood -- coming up with tech to squish item levels, party level sync, and now testing out Korrak's for numbers at scale.

They are going to be relying on scaling us down, and I really hope they get us closer to that TTK.

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Ok 😄

round dome
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top teams absolutely do target healers lol

crimson terrace
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theres no squish happening when 9.0 rolls around, when you're 50 (current 120) you're still gonna have the same HP and damage as you did at 120

fair pecan
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I didn't watch the most recent arena tournament -- but in recent memory I can't recall a healer being targeted first. It's CC healer, kill DPS.

round dome
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that's tournament play

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that's no sockets no pve trinkets/weps no titanforging etc

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live is blazing fast compared to that

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another reason you might not see healers getting swapped to is because if you leave 2 dps open very long someone is dying

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which is the opposite of too long of ttk

fair pecan
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I mean. You're just saying "It won't happen because X"

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But they have been testing scaling for over a year now

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Much more likely that's with a purpose

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🙂

round dome
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if you have a short ttk, you end up with players using cc defensively, saving cds to counterpressure, running tons of tank trinkets/traits, and running comps that are good at stopping goes

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which ends up making everything take longer

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people aren't training healers because healers dont die, they're not training healers because someone is going to die pretty fast and it's most likely going to be you

rigid linden
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the audacity

bold edge
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when geming for feral should i have 1 agil gem before mastery gems or all mastery?

stray sigil
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zev almost 3k Pog

lime light
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All i want for xmas is feral being pew pew bang bang

tardy hare
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tom waiting for feral to be good

lime light
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@vestal citrus u are bald couldyounot

grand eagle
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You can use a 120 agil and 80 agil gem i beleive i do that with the intellect ones

small storm
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you can but agis value is super low

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so only 120 is worth

lime light
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show

clear pulsar
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@vestal citrus you're gucci brother

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I'm against sending pics of myself to strangers on the internet too

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I bet you're very cute tho

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All australians are cute

obtuse ice
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OwO

lime light
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OwO

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pokemons

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weebs

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u bald anyway........................

obtuse ice
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should I die then

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rip me

clear pulsar
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We'll all die in the end

lime light
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but u can die with honor

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in cat form

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or u can die like a disgusting creater

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as bear

smoky sail
old hound
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@vestal citrus I’ll go first then. Merry x-mas fellow druids! 🤘

lime light
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Guardian main...

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PogChamp 👍

tardy hare
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GLYPH FACE REVEAL!?

lime light
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😱

lime light
smoky sail
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I trade egirl pics against rating blobthumbsup

obtuse ice
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😼

manic patrol
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helo, does anyone know if your conquest bar resets?

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when 8.3 hits * like if i have a 500/500 conquest bar ready the day before 8.3, will i be able to instantly turn in when the patch hits? or does it become 0/500 automatically

clear pulsar
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Unlikely that you keep a full bar

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But it would also be tremendously pointless

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Cuz you'll need to climb for a decent reward anyway

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If you get an unranked reward on the weekly cache the item will be like normal raid ilvl

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Pretty useless

manic patrol
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ye for pvp it's useless, i was thinking of getting another pvp chest on the second week, i'm a pve boy trying to get more AP

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if the conquest bar remained then i would get pvp chest on week 2 without doing any arenas; but i'm sure it'll be reseted

clear pulsar
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You have to get the first cap bar before you get the second

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And the conquest bar rewards start at normal raid ilvl too

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Fairly useless

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Cuz thats same as current mythic

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So you already have that lvl of azerite

tropic schooner
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He Talks about ap

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Not Gear

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But doubt it works

clear pulsar
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Oh when he said chest I thought he meant azerite item chest

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Yeah doubt it works

tropic schooner
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I think its the chest you Open Not the one you equip

manic patrol
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weekly chest yes

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but ye the conquest bar will reset so no point in filling up a second conquest bar before 8.3 if all i'm after is the ap

karmic stag
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guys

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it seems to me that there is some hidden

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aura in pvp

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that gives players -30% dodge i think

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my bear tank has 28% dodge chance and it never works in pvp i never dodge attacks

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after doing some tests with a new major essence that grants +15% dodge chance for 6 sec it seems to work and i do dodge attacks

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probably cuz it sets my dodge to 42% total

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i think dodge aura is -30% dodge but could be wrong not sure

clear pulsar
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Lol

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Its not a 30 aura

karmic stag
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what is it then?

clear pulsar
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Dodge doesnt work. Only specific effects that work on giving you dodge.
Like essences, evasion, blur

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Items that give dodge/tank dodge, those dont work

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Brewmaster would be absurdly broken

karmic stag
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in an old chat

clear pulsar
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Like how tank parry doesnt work, only specific cds and effects that give you parry

karmic stag
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it says

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players in pvp got 30% expertise aura

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so dodge/parry wont work until 30%+

clear pulsar
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Expertise doesnt exist

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Anymore

karmic stag
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many hidden things in auras do exist

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read bottom

clear pulsar
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I cant

karmic stag
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kk

clear pulsar
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Keep trying to help a guy

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Who refuses to understand he's wrong

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You can just unequip items until u have less than 15% dodge then use the essence again to test

karmic stag
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no

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i got 31% dodge now

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will just duel a melee

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😄

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and see

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well it seems it aint work

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you are probably right i guess

opal smelt
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What are the best essences to run as a guardian fc?

obtuse ice
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GUYS

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DO YOU KNOW WE CAN DODGE IN PVP

surreal heron
obtuse ice
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:x

normal saddle
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How hard are Bites/Maims supposed to be critting for? My bites are critting for 45k and that seems really low

obtuse ice
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Against what dude

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Cause it depends your opponent

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And cds and all stuff lol

normal saddle
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So this is MI + Tigers fury on a DK

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50k against a caster form druid

obtuse ice
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What is your mastery

normal saddle
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46%

clear pulsar
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You want more mastery

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Mastery #1 stat

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Versa #2

obtuse ice
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Around 70% is the best

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Mini 60

normal saddle
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112% with MI up

clear pulsar
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Thats definitely outside pvp haha

normal saddle
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yeah

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lol

obtuse ice
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Xd

clear pulsar
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You want more mastery

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Mastery #1 stat

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Versa #2

obtuse ice
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Yes^

normal saddle
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Only big rings I have to swap out versa are Haste/Mast rings, worth it to drop all the versa to gain like 300+ mastery?

obtuse ice
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No

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You want mastery first

normal saddle
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interesting, thank you hopefully this makes bite build feel better

clear pulsar
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There is only a bite build

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Lol

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Regardless of your stats feral plays the same way. Bt vs frenzy doesnt depend on ur gear.

lime light
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Friendly reminder if u are a Guardian, thats what will u find under a xmas tree 🖕

smoky sail
tiny oar
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Dont do it glyph

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Stay strong

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Think of the children

lime light
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Ded to mee

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The Guardian tooltip is wrong tho

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Takes on the form of a mighty bear to dampen and give AIDS to enemys.

smoky sail
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No don't do it feelskarpman

south heron
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how do I beat teams that have purge? litterally a dh/warlock/shaman in every game

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as resto'

smoky sail
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Mmm dh/wl isn't purge heavy like disc/sham ^^

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For disc sham be sure to line them and ask teammate to peel

tardy hare
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Glyph lowkey gotta flex mount in the screenshot

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Smh

smoky sail
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Imagine toping both dps and hps while giving aids to ppl wuuut

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Aka legion triggered

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So alt friendly

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Haha

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Next seas farm mecagon m+Kappa

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Rings wuuut

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I forgot them

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They should add atleast 1 effect to every armor type xD

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Not only cloth bracers

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Or disable them 4head

obtuse ice
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Glyph

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Don't fall

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In the abyss

lime light
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I will leave it here

smoky sail
tardy hare
heady depot
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Guardian PvP 🥰

smoky sail
heady depot
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Haha

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Guardian is good for PvP

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:-)

echo creek
clear pulsar
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It isnt even pvping when you play guardian

heady depot
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Ok

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Lul

clear pulsar
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You dont even have something to win with. You just win by pressing moonfire thrash and frenzied regen, top every meter and run healer oom. Like a raid boss or some shit. You just do your damage rotation over and over.

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0 depth

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It's worse than dh

heady depot
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Its Not the Job of a tank to kill an enemy its to secure Team mates :-p

clear pulsar
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Scum

smoky sail
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Secure teammate is healer role err

echo creek
rustic heron
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On a scale from glad viable to dog comp, how bad is arms/frost mage/resto?

clear pulsar
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Every comp is glad viable

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Maybe not things with affliction lock or enhance

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But arms frost rdru pretty decent

rigid linden
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@vestal citrus is that this seasons glad mount on ur fire mage

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while i cant even get it on my feral...

obtuse ice
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Oh no formy

opal smelt
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to be fair formy, fire takes no skill

smoky sail
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Does any class need skill? thonkang

odd juniper
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u can always swap to boomie >_>

weary radish
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Is Iron Jaws really that great?

I've found that Im not getting many procs these days on it

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And yeah Im running 3 of them.

wide nova
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Does anybody know about the guild Mordor in Tichondrius?

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It’s supposed to be the #1 RBG guild in NA.

wide nova
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Is there a good site for checking pvp rating of characters?

odd juniper
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@wide nova

wide nova
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Thanks @odd juniper

opal smelt
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I know a bunch of the people in mordor,most run arenas on their own,some have set team members but as far as their rbg teams go it's set and I was told they aren't really recruiting for rbg members at this time

wide nova
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Thanks

smoky sail
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Get glossiesd pepekarp

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freecast pve disc deal more than rogue or firemage Kappa

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Play undulating tide x3 schism archangel, double crucible stack into cyclo blast or voodoo doll feelsgood

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Sound more like destro priest err

obtuse ice
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Just slap his face

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look at him with terrifying bear gaze

smoky sail
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Tell him santa is a lie 4head

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Pretty sure he cry cuz he see all those pve items on ur vods valina

smoky sail
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Best comp is triple guardian unfortch can't tag with more than 1 tank feelskarpman

obtuse ice
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Feral vs Holy Ret

obtuse ice
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Any idea

wise valley
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happy christmas guys

clear pulsar
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@weary radish running multiple doesnt increase proc chance. It's unreliable, but it's very impactful when you get the proc and use it well

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The issue is more so on the rest of the traits

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Wild fleshrending is pointless

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GL is even more unreliable

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Blood mist can be straight up a hindrance

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Jungle fury can be ok but crit is nerfed in pvp, on top of the 50% nerf to every trait

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Masterful instincts is really good

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Iron jaws is the one that feels most impactful

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Even tho it's big rng

odd juniper
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formy is playing worgen druid?

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@rigid linden

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its him? 😄

obtuse ice
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it is

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oimg Glyph

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stop spreading so much toxicity

odd juniper
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glyph is telling everyone that feral is bad, boomie is bad, bear is best spec

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and then he logs on his lock and farm em with chaos bolts

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confirmed

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xD

clear pulsar
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Formy is washed up

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It's the natural process for oce rank 1 players

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Get rank 1, do nothing for a year, come back on a diff busted class some random season and achieve something meaningful again

smoky sail
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Gpye on guardian should do so much dam ComfyBear

wise valley
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formy was worgen s1 bfa too

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worgen r1

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cant even imagine how chad he is irl

livid wasp
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funny how everyone complains about DHs and DKs

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ret is so damn broken in 2s I feel like

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always when I face it I lose

west oasis
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well yeah you're feral

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you have to pre-bear/pre-wall an instant ranged stun

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which is hard to do

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but for a ret vs a dk/dh

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dk heals and can do pet stun while stunned (i think)

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and dh doesn't ahve to touch ret

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idk to me ret, is like yeah its damage when it connects is so scary

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but that's thing

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dont let him connect much and he ded

livid wasp
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idk if that was the problem its just hard to do any pressure

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since mainly ret is on my healer and his healer is far away

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and im supposed to double dot

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or should I just go for his healer

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like when hes with guardian aff resto its aids

smoky sail
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Guess tunnel healer annoy dh with root then u can kill dh in deep damp

livid wasp
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maybe that works against ret too?

smoky sail
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A bit less cuz freedom just kite him ret is wheelchair dh not ^^

tardy hare
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Just dont try to do ANYTHING during his wings

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Get out of there full wings durarion

dreamy aspen
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this is kinda strange to ask but how do you go about fighting boomkins?

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like what should i be interrupting?

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if i kick nature they arcane and vice versa

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you would assume solar wrath cause lunar strike takes longer to cast?

smoky sail
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Kick clones :p

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They're cast do negative dmg anyway goosybench

dreamy aspen
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nah this is strictly me vs druid as Affliction

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like i'm not having major issues but i don't really know how to optimally play against them

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cause of the two spell schools?

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they just turrent out really fast spells with celestial allignment up so if i kick one they use the other and reflect only goes so far against that. gets worse if they are healing affinity

smoky sail
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Tbf idk if it's worse interupt a moonkin if he's alone then kick what u want I think if it's 2s or 3s keep it for healer ^^

dreamy aspen
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like yeah no healers in range 2 melee's and a boomkin - now this is random bg's mind you but you do get 1v1 scenario's ocassionally

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like should i save it for an attempted regrowth? kick their damaging casts or cyclone? so i guess it depends on the situation huh...

rigid linden
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@wise valley was zandalari for S2 R1 and normal troll for S1 :p only went worgen for S3 cause everyone I play with xfered haha

wise valley
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@rigid linden wtf bro

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i thought you had worgen r1

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ive been jerking my meat to a non worgen this whole time?

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WOW DISRESPECTED

rigid linden
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a TRUE FAN

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woulda known i was a zandalari boy

small storm
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lmfao worgen

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cringe

opal smelt
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got tired of facing gay teams like rogue/mage,guardian dh,double ret double dh

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so I joined them and am running guardian unh dk

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this is the way

obtuse ice
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3hours of 2s

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No moving rating

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Hell yhea

tiny oar
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What comp are you playing with feral?

wise valley
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@obtuse ice cus u wont play league with me

brave edge
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Hey guys. Usually I play pve. But I tried some. Rbgs and it was really fun. For. Next season I wanna play more PvP. But I have no idea where to start. I play guardian. Do you know any guides/streamers/etc where I can get some basic informations? Like which stats/talents/essences to aim for?

obtuse ice
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@wise valley why would I do that

wise valley
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cus im sick shaco main

dark mist
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What’re good Guardian 3’s pvp Talents?

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What do you think about Sharpened Claws, Incarn, pulverize, & survival of the fittest?

obtuse ice
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Whalla it's good

lime light
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Hahaha u guys fucked up

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Nothing under tree inc

obtuse ice
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Give me pve trink santa pls

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In pvp weekly chest

patent dove
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@dreamy aspen fear/coil/kick them when they have alignment/incarnation. Outside if that mainly kick arcane.

obtuse ice
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Whalla

forest kite
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are you guys trying to say Valhalla?

smoky sail
obtuse ice
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🦁

smoky sail
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Glyph was converted

obtuse ice
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What I think I look like in arena

smoky sail
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Vallah

obtuse ice
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🐭

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What I am really

smoky sail
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🦦

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What's me

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Big donger wuuut

tardy hare
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We lost a brave soul...

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Forever in our hearts...

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Rest in peace... Glyph...

smoky sail
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But u play fire mage 4head

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No more manarift Kappa

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Not like the old one valina

smoky sail
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I've heard it change for look like manabreak increasing mancost

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Not read blue post too so ^^

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But I tried dh this seas and god daymn it's fun pepekarp

obtuse ice
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OhOh

forest kite
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Feral staff is still op compared to some other weapons

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But feral had good weapon this season and did not make it great

lime light
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Marry xmas for every feral boomkin and resto player

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😘

smoky sail
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Santa already gift us lucid dream account bound ComfyBear

lime light
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Whennu rank 4 no?

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So u have to be an Ape farming 24/7 foking wq in nazjatar

smoky sail
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Idk iam rank 4 4head

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Miss only 3 essences r4 ><

rich crag
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Anyone ever hae that arena calls quest just vanish no longer available i was at 9/10 and won the last game and it poofed before i could turn it in

tiny oar
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@rich crag event ends a few hours before reset every time

smoky sail
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I hope Santa bring me fire land toy valina

rich crag
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Well that explains it lol

wide nova
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You and me both @smoky sail been farming that damn thing forever 😦

smoky sail
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I know ur pain homie and I do it with 2 druids xD

wide nova
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Damn that’s dedication

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Although at this point t it is almost worth it to boost another druid just to get the damn toy.

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Course doesn’t mean it still wont be 6 more months to get it

rigid linden
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I queued jungle today and formy is back

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Old man still got moves

tardy hare
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Formy after 1 more hour of queueing

obtuse ice
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formy after

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1 second logged as feral

clear pulsar
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Formy climbing again

smoky sail
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Isn't just joongle disgustingly powerfull?

odd juniper
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Would like to play feral pvp but im disgustingly dogshit with him

clear pulsar
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Git gud

west oasis
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wouldn't you say catshit instead of dogshit

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:^)

clear pulsar
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No

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That's why it's disgusting

smoky sail
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Merry xmax y'all I wish sporepod titanforge for every feral 4head

obtuse ice
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😂 😂

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Thanks

vestal rain
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430 vers crit + socket belt or 430 vers haste + leech belt?

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resto

smoky sail
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@vestal rain socket one leech is pretty useless for pvp

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But crit suck a bit so depend on ur stats

tardy hare
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@wise valley OMEGALUL

glacial storm
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So do the azerite traits and talenta change much from gaurdian pve to pvp?

smoky sail
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Don't do it

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Pretty same bramble galaktik guardian, just max out dmg output 4head

west oasis
forest kite
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what is the weekly conquest reward on US?

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blizz giving Christmas present again?

rigid linden
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Merry christmas to every druid except guardian pvp players!

tiny oar
dreamy drum
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whats the best spell rotation for when 2x dps jump on me as rdruid on 2v2

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at this point i just want to not insta die in 5s

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anything will do

patent dove
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Overgrowth, swiftmend, rejuv, bear, frenzied regen

neon hatch
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hows this brawl for honor?

valid crypt
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Hey guys, how long does it take to get to honor lvl 10?

wary pier
#

@glacial storm yes they do

languid fiber
#

Hey guys. I'm kinda new to resto druid. I've been playing other classes to close to 2400 3s, but i find it hard to conserve mana and survive against rogues as resto druid. Any pointers that can help?

smoky sail
#

Got 455 socket music box feelsgood

smoky sail
#

U struggle to rogue alone or RMX?

#

Be sure to prehot/bear kidneys

#

If u play with dk/x/resto druid ask for spam chain of ice /grip while u cross the map, antimagiczone on vendetta, dispel poisons

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But without peels u should die to a rogue anyway in damp cuz disgusting class blobthumbsup

obtuse ice
#

Pre shotting is key for rdruid

languid fiber
#

Thanks!

smoky sail
#

Yup anticipation is key

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If rogue catch you without form ur dead x)

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And if they tunnel you the whole game don't be afraid to sit blind if u trink it ur dead next go ^^

obtuse ice
#

Yyea

smoky sail
#

No fire seed pouch this week valina

pearl ginkgo
#

Only got 2 furors in my box this week despite getting conquest cap + 1600 rating? Anyone else had this?

tiny oar
#

Sometimes it bugs out for me, usually it should be sent to your mail with the rest of them

pearl ginkgo
#

Oo will check

clear pulsar
#

Log out and back in

pearl ginkgo
#

It was in the mail! Thanks!

odd juniper
#

how to win vs Assa/Disc?

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as rdru

obtuse ice
#

anticipation is key

odd juniper
#

i know when he's gonna kidney me

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i prebear etc

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overgrowth after and back to bear

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but keep dying

west oasis
#

are you letting disc free cast as well

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that's pretty much the only way you die trhough bear vs assa/disc

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also C&S has helped me survive against the kidneys

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cuz you get the extra versa

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and that extra versa helps with both DRs and getting a fat frenzied regen off

odd juniper
#

im trying to los priest

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maybe thats just my partners

dreamy drum
#

Is it worth to start stealthed and not have hots instantly

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Or to hots asap but then risk being destealthed

smoky sail
#

Don't let rogue restealth

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And as Nuja said win fast x)

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But ur teammate have to apply big pressure so disc have to heal instead of dmg

west oasis
#

glyph said it*

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@dreamy drum depends

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vs rogue/mage i start stealthed first

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and dw about the hots cuz getting insta sapped in opener is just easy for them

patent dove
#

@odd juniper play max range to priest, have your mate tunnel the priest. Always keep as far away as possible from priest and LoS. Try to evade damage by the priest at all cost. Pre bear kidneys, apply pressure by using dots + bear damage and thorns to rogue. You can use moon and sunfire too, you‘re not gonna oom before the game ends anyway. Deal the most damage you can, same for your partner. Easiest comps for this is uhdk/rdru

smoky sail
#

Just hit 2k4 last week as rdru big up to this section yall guys rock blobthumbsup xmasbear

odd juniper
#

was playing rdru/arms

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just got 2.1k

smoky sail
#

But I cheat cuz destro lock 4head

patent dove
#

Arms is slightly tougher but works just fine, remember your arms to keep um hamstring and tell him to kick schism and shadowmend. Don‘t die in kidney bomb switches to the warrior. Deal as much damage as possible so crush priest before he can kill you

smoky sail
#

And be careful if you play cat aff x)

patent dove
#

Try to keep your trinket for blind/sap combo, or for kidney vendetta if ur out of pos, but if you used trinket for that you are behind

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If your arms knows his buttons just skill guardian affinity. Makes survival way easier with iron fur and frenzy regen

smoky sail
#

For me I always play bear aff with a melee mate

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That's why play with caster is by far more funny xD

patent dove
#

It‘s not bad it‘s just that cat damage is so powerful and you can punish enemy mistakes so well with it

smoky sail
#

Just bait midmap in cat while destro land some big boi bolts xD

odd juniper
#

vs rog always playing bear aff

smoky sail
#

Vs any melee almost

patent dove
#

Cat aff is easier to get away with if your mate is a dk because ice chains/deathgrip/suffocate are peels deluxe. Same with rogues. With a warrior it‘s tougher and with a dh it‘s dangerous but luckily not necessary. If you have a dh mate just afk until he sucked the enemy dry of their hopes and their mana

smoky sail
#

Dry their hopes 4head

patent dove
#

And mmr

smoky sail
#

Mmr burn DansGame

patent dove
#

Legend has it mana rift used to have that in it‘s tooltip in an early alpha build Kappa

mighty totem
#

Is there any tips for ferals in 2s? I find myself not being able to finish off people a lot

#

I can't blame it on the gear, but I have 67% mastery, 11% versa, 2x MI, 1x JF, 1x IM

obtuse ice
#

How do you guys

#

Keep calm

#

End

mighty totem
#

Should I pool energy before going in for a kill window with kill frenzy?

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Or is it worth just constantly pressuring with shreds and brutal slashes

west oasis
#

keep calm in the game? practice tbh lol

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eventually you get used to the pressure and won't panic as much

rigid linden
#

@mighty totem are you doing 50 energy bites

mighty totem
#

I've been trying to yeah

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Been getting more and more 50 energy bits off

south heron
#

Thank you for all the help guys, just hit 2400 in 2s 🙂

obtuse ice
#

Nice

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Can't go higher than 2300

patent dove
#

Just don‘t lose 4Head

obtuse ice
#

2 hard

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Cause I'm too bad

smoky sail
#

Positive mindset is key for improve blobthumbsup

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Or play with destro lock as resto freewin 4head

obtuse ice
#

Being realistic is positive

patent dove
#

Sometimes gaining distance to a problem can help solve it. Just go for a wow break for a week and then return. Helped me a lot back then

smoky sail
#

U guys think shadowmeld gonna be nerf sooner? Cuz I mind switch to ally cuz freaking op for rdruid but don't want to change for 1 patch 4head

tardy hare
#

Been the same for ages

#

Doubt it

obtuse ice
#

😦

#

Gp tauren

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Very strong 2

clear pulsar
#

Yeah I'd say if you're tauren, don't bother

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It'll make it much worse to find people to play with

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Cuz at lower levels alliance is more dead

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And tauren is good too

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But if you're worgen/kultiran, I'd swap

obtuse ice
#

Yhea formy

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Listen

smoky sail
#

N'a iam regular troll but cba not wearing boots since 6 years 4head

#

And I boost a drood ally side with shadowland deluxe I already catch my main cr with 20ilvl less and 2 blue essences smh

odd juniper
#

pushed to 2230

#

another worgen incoming to gladiator, after formy 😄

obtuse ice
#

Lol

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Such self confidence!

normal saddle
#

We’ve been trying to make arms/feral/healer work but I find I’m either tunnel as feral or constantly CCing. Should we just be focusing on damage more?

smoky sail
#

Do u have tank tronkets? 🤔

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Guess ur comp should bring tons of dmg + ms

#

Arms feral is kittycleave right?

odd juniper
#

right

ripe ember
#

Is resto stat priority still mastery/haste/vers/crit? Any particular benchmark I should aim for with any of them? Feel like I need to do a day of mythic + to try to get better stat allocation

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For 2s mainly

odd juniper
#

guides say that u need 20% haste, then go for mastery

rigid linden
#

@patent dove happened to me, I realised I stopped using clone alot more and relied too much on DMG from traits

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Now I'm back and confident haha

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Can happen to all of us

normal saddle
#

Yeah it’s kitty cleave, just feels like I’m having to hard cast cc to make plays more than I should have to but our warrior can’t really get pressure without it

heavy cairn
#

Do you guys think it’s helpful to play multiple of the same class to get better and push for r1? So basically playing your “main spec” 24/7? Or just stick to 1 char

obtuse ice
#

you need alt

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S3 wotlk I had 10 druids

heavy cairn
#

Yeah I had an alt in s2 it was kind of nice. Idk I see some ppl stack their main spec and some don’t

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I just want to go super ham next patch and go for r1

smoky sail
#

All healers x1 druids x2 dh x1 for give back all those manaburn 4head

#

Pretty horrible for essence farming blobthumbsup

heavy cairn
#

Idk I just see a lot of old school players that don’t do the 2x class

obtuse ice
#

Such as

heavy cairn
#

So I’m torn plus essence sucks for sure to grind

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@obtuse ice all method orange players, gor, idk I feel like a lot of the older players don’t do that

obtuse ice
#

Cdew have lot of alts

heavy cairn
#

I mainly do 3’s

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Cdew doesn’t 2x Sham tho

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Like even from the start in tbc

obtuse ice
#

yhea

heavy cairn
#

Yeah having an alli one would be nice

obtuse ice
#

or just to warm up

heavy cairn
#

Or both factions*

obtuse ice
#

and then log your main

heavy cairn
#

What’s the difference in r1-r3 well and lucid dreams?

#

Or r1 is ok for mana games?

#

I’d prob have to farm the mana ones for sure

#

Too important in some matchups

#

Yeah true

obtuse ice
#

what

#

end of season isn't january

heavy cairn
#

It’s Jan 14

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For s3

obtuse ice
#

pretty close

heavy cairn
#

Idk very time consuming

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Hmm either way I guess I’ll think about if I want to alt next season

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It’s really nice when you have a team to climb so hopefully I can find consistent ppl more

smoky sail
#

Tbh I feel mana essence not Dat good

obtuse ice
#

consistent ppl

#

lol

#

lol

smoky sail
#

Restore like 12k max for a 6m arena

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When a good full drink is 80k :p

#

Feel stats and more healing heavy bring more heal then less mana needed etc

#

Maybe some r1 play it but they're overnerf in pvp and loose so much value when damp start kickin

#

Idk on eu ladder 3v3 it's like 50/50 for stats vs mana

west oasis
#

slow to change maybe

#

but i guess at the end high of pvp

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every bit counts

#

and 12k is probably the difference in getting a good healing rotation out

#

vs someone who is not on mana essences

normal saddle
#

anyone know if Shiver Venom 430 is worth over a 440 crit/vers for feral?

#

The proc seems low on damage % for arena

stray sigil
#

proc does 6%+ of my dmg every game

#

its def good

smoky sail
#

Ye was thinking about those 6k mana who let ur dps kite instead of dying while u drink

#

But that's very very very end bracket xD

#

But then like chas play lucid ErT and lifebinding use machinist brillance while other top bracket run oceanic restoration

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Iam sad chas don't stream valina

obtuse ice
#

🦐

smoky sail
#

Bit I mean like when u watch method black playing turtle as RMX I wonder why he need mana essence they peel so good he can drink almost when he want

forest kite
#

MW becomes god again in 8,3?

#

they can stack a ton of vers with corruption gear + healing buff.

smoky sail
#

They're already god x)

odd juniper
#

revitalize works with mastery?

teal hemlock
#

nope^^ i dont believe so as it isnt a hot

forest kite
#

meanwhile on pvp forums

rigid linden
#

wait

#

i have a better one

#

It wasnt troll btw

stray sigil
#

dh is peak human iq

#

it is known

obtuse ice
#

Than war

#

😔

rigid linden
#

Seems like all the eu ferals

#

have started to go formy haste build

#

😮

obtuse ice
#

Lol

rigid linden
#

by all i mean only like the top 3

#

but still

obtuse ice
#

No

rigid linden
#

I DID IT FIRST

obtuse ice
#

Daddy suffre

#

Still versa mast

rigid linden
#

seems tony and cassidy been going haste tho

obtuse ice
#

Uh

#

Yhea feels like

#

Versa prio now

rigid linden
#

This just my opinion but having 18% vs having like 2% feels the same

#

;/

#

wait a sec

#

hes in resto gear

#

WAIT A SEC

#

ARE ALL THESE FERALS RESTO NOW?

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Yup nvm they were resto..

#

😦

obtuse ice
#

I'm sure it's

#

Pve build

#

Uhh

#

Nah

#

Versa do a lot

#

Tbh

rigid linden
#

yeah

#

odl

#

i can dream

obtuse ice
#

I drim

#

I'm good

#

At the game

lime light
#

Most of the eu ferals plays resto

#

But swap before log out

obtuse ice
#

Lol really

cold glen
#

what comp was the guardian druid running in 3's

smoky sail
#

Because resto is better feral than feral blobthumbsup

cold glen
#

ah

smoky sail
#

Guardian arms solid too cuz ms

obtuse ice
#

Feral best spec in the game

#

Wdyp

#

Wdym

smoky sail
#

Best spec is enhance sham wdym 4head

obtuse ice
#

🤮

lime light
#

couldyounot 👍

smoky sail
#

Best 3s comp feral ret enhance wuuut

clear imp
#

fury of elune for boomkin pvp? or shooting stars?

smoky sail
#

2s EU tourney tonight PogChamp

lime light
#

Dh dh dh assa assa dh dh dh

#

Kurwa dh assa Guardian dh dh assa

smoky sail
#

If someone bring guardian in 2s riot triggered

obtuse ice
#

2s tourney

#

Really

#

Is there any ferql

lime light
#

there was in NA

#

they got demolished by assa disc

#

3:0

smoky sail
#

Lol

#

I don't think guardian is any good in 2s xD

#

Don't know anyone playing feral in but maybe

#

But bracket look like assa/disc dh/x ww/x xD

lime light
#

in finals

#

there were ww's only

#

with rdru and hpal

smoky sail
#

Ww is god anyway if u kite properly

lime light
#

and there was not a single dh

smoky sail
#

Ye gorecki and Zach?

lime light
#

but i only watched few games tho

#

think so ye

#

assa soo good with pvp gear, and the thing that othercs cant use pve trinkets

smoky sail
#

Ww secretly god tier class wuuut

lime light
#

too much pressure

smoky sail
#

They allow every pve thing just not trinket 4head

#

There's a hunter playing cut of skill 👌

lime light
#

hmm thats true

#

maybe the underrot trinket

#

is allowed?

smoky sail
#

Nop

lime light
#

since they can use kr weapon?

smoky sail
#

But weapon yes

lime light
#

lol

smoky sail
#

4head

obtuse ice
#

Link

#

Pls

lime light
#

but its not live

#

u can watch vods from NA

#

if u want

smoky sail
#

Can't wait to see dh and ww using pants of skill from cos blobthumbsup

lime light
#

they cant?

obtuse ice
#

Mana burn of rift

smoky sail
#

They can

obtuse ice
#

It's only

#

Pvp item

#

OH

smoky sail
#

N'a

obtuse ice
#

That's what I was wondering

smoky sail
#

Every pve thingy allowed just ban tank trinkets

lime light
#

and also they made a lot of mistakes=admin wise

obtuse ice
#

Why can't we use

lime light
#

they started few games without 20% damp

obtuse ice
#

Pve item in competition

lime light
#

😄

smoky sail
#

That's good so assa disc don't dominate every match 4head

lime light
#

assa sooo broken in that TR

#

its insane

smoky sail
#

Ye

#

RMX in tr wuuut

#

So bad than they don't win a single blizzcon

lime light
#

but overall the tournament seems fun to watch at some point idk

smoky sail
#

I want to watch it cuz eu have more salt to give than NA 👌

lime light
#

XD

#

is it 6pm cest?

smoky sail
#

12pm est

#

From what I see

lime light
#

so in 3hrs?

#

so 6pm

sturdy veldt
#

Ok uhm

#

I might have just tried guardian in 2's

#

This shit is broken af happybear

smoky sail
#

Less in 2s than 3s

smoky sail
#

Can't wait to see method blyat play 4head

lime light
#

its on PogChamp

smoky sail
#

Teams name 4head

lime light
#

double feral

#

double f33d

rustic heron
#

how can you immune touch of death with shadowmeld?

#

Do you meld when they pop it or before the damage kicks in?

#

Can't really test now

smoky sail
#

Lol destro vs feral 4head

obtuse ice
#

Fucking

#

hell

#

there is

#

sumec and suffre

#

double feral

#

lmfao

#

this gonna be crazy

obtuse ice
#

they lost ok

#

:(

lime light
#

there is no way, they can win vs non ghetto team

obtuse ice
#

I cry

smoky sail
#

Give bladedance and manarift to feral 4head

obtuse ice
#

no

#

we have to stay pure class

smoky sail
#

That 2s bracket still 10000x less residentsleeper than 3s

rustic heron
#

@vestal citrus thanks homie I ll check it when I get a chance

wise valley
#

wow

#

remi still got a fuckin weeb ava

#

@surreal heron can u ban for having weeb avas?

surreal heron
#

No

wise valley
#

kinda lame but okay

surreal heron
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

stray sigil
#

why do ppl take ursocs over impassive now? im curious

west oasis
#

^

#

impassive visage gives more heals overall, but it's not gonna save you during a go

cold hull
#

where can i find a good feral druid pvp guide&gear&azerite etc

#

which is 8.2.5 up to date

tranquil meadow
#

Good question

obtuse ice
#

@wise valley XD bread come on

clear pulsar
#

@cold hull @tranquil meadow

sly comet
#

guys was thinking if sv hunter good with guardian for dampening or just go dh or dk ? or maybe ww monk ? in 3v3

smoky sail
#

It's guardian jungle it work

#

A eu team q 3k+ mmr with it x)

obtuse ice
#

:(

smoky sail
#

Git gud or play guardian 4head

sly comet
#

@smoky sail oh do you have any stream or qomething like that with guardian/sv / X ?

smoky sail
#

Not with sv ^^

#

But I see that comp against big streamer some days ago

sly comet
#

oh okay ^^ so usually guardians run with which comp ? @smoky sail

smoky sail
#

Ww/dh/arms

lime light
clear pulsar
#

Not wrong tbh

simple elm
#

So how does geetting the CoS rank 3 pieces work, do you need play a certain number of games per week? I know you need to conq cap but you can do that entirely outside of arena.

smoky sail
#

Lmao

#

Dh are fine 4head

#

Proof is no dh won blizzcon and dh not gonna win 2s tourney blobthumbsup

#

Just a mid-range correct class 4head

#

Also a main RMX player say that blobglare

stray sigil
#

but dh did win bcon :0

clear pulsar
#

@simple elm you can cap conquest without touching rated pvp. That only takes way longer yeah. But that's the same as honor. You can get 30k honor without ever touching a random bg, but that doesn't count towards blood of the enemy achievement :)

#

For conflict and strife, you need to cap conquest once for rank 1, reach 1000 rating in any bracket for rank 2, you can get both at the same time from the weekly chest if that's the case.

#

Rank 3 is like the m+ one, you get a certain number of a currency/item

#

And at 15 you can combine them into rank 3 essence

#

You get 1 per week if you just stay at 1000 rating

#

You get 3 above 1400, 5 above 1600, 8 above 2100

#

So that's how long it takes

simple elm
#

@clear pulsar Thanks for the breakdown but let me ask one thing to clarify for myself. Once you've hit a rated point (like I broke 1500 in 3s) I no longer need to play more 3s each week (for this season) I just need to conq cap each week and I'll get the 3.

tardy hare
#

you need to win 1 game in the bracket with the rating per week to be eligible for that rank's rewards

west oasis
#

whaaz says that

#

until he faces a good survival/feral in 2s

#

then saays they're broken

#

xd

clear pulsar
#

Whoa whoa whoa

#

You tryna get feral nerfed again?

#

Stop the nonsense talk brother

edgy oxide
#

Nerf feral, buff bear

obtuse ice
#

Tbh

#

Feral don't need buff

smoky sail
#

Everybody need nerf

sly comet
#

war needs self healing :p

#

until then won't play it 😄

worldly glade
#

They need to make bears to take 200% dmg

#

In arenas

sly comet
#

Arms war takes a lot of dmg, it depends on his healer compared to monks, dh, dk etc...every other melee has self healing/sustain

clear pulsar
#

Windwalker is much squishier

#

Than arms warr

sly comet
#

yes but have good dfensives and can heal itself even if it's poor helas 😄 but have much better toolkit to escape death ^^

clear pulsar
#

Good defensives?

#

LOL

#

You're tripping

#

You only need self healing if you wanna chase healers behind pillars

#

Arms is balanced around not having self healing

#

DH can only leech, you dont really do anything specific to "self heal"

#

Arms has hella tools to survive and outplay enemies

#

War banner, disarm, spell reflect, d.stance, bladestorm

forest kite
#

arms like to cry

#

but they are very strong

obtuse ice
#

Hmmmmm

#

so much machups

#

as feral/hpal

#

that feels

#

impossible

#

such as

#

Hpal/DK Rdru/dh rdru/demo

west oasis
#

yeah if anything

#

look at the recent blizzcon

#

blizo literally live lord rmx's damage so many times, especially when loony was cc'd

wise valley
#

@obtuse ice come paly with me

#

bb

obtuse ice
#

what game

wise valley
#

lol

#

just arams for missions

#

i got

#

3 pentas in 3 days

#

1 in summoners right

#

rift*

obtuse ice
#

Gnite 6am

exotic mason
#

Does the percent of Iron jaws stack?

clear pulsar
#

No LOL

#

Could you imagine

#

Every trait functions the same way

#

The part that scales with ilvl is the part that stacks

exotic mason
#

I see

#

How do you feel about double Iron jaws, double masterful instincts, 1 Gushing lac, 1 Wild flesh? I just made a feral set.

wise valley
#

get more MI

#

@exotic mason

#

@clear pulsar did u read his comment

clear pulsar
#

I didn't read any tags comment

#

More MI tho

#

Oh @exotic mason yeah thats ok

wise valley
#

@clear pulsar "more mi"

#

thats my college thesis

clear pulsar
#

Wild fleshrending is kinda useless

wise valley
#

2 main traits most important ^

#

gameplay most important

#

a chimpanzee can reach 2k with resto traits

#

so, just optimize the best you can, and make sure you focus on position/gameplay/target priority

clear pulsar
#

^

#

Feral has a lot of potential to outplay

#

You can climb for days if you git gud

rich crag
#

I missed this guy masterfulinstincts 🙂

sharp cloak
rigid linden
#

Greyhound I'd say ure BEARrly playing the game

tardy hare
#

This is disgusting

smoky sail
lime light
#

hope blizzard wake up

#

and buff dh's and guardians

#

and nerf feral already

#

amen

smoky sail
#

🙏

#

Buff assa rogue and mage aswell if possible and then game should be fix

gentle mirage
#

What is good combo with Boomie? Lock?

smoky sail
#

Nothing 4head

obtuse ice
#

Rdru

smoky sail
#

Boomy /ele or sp but kinda meh

gentle mirage
#

Can Gladius show me thier kick cd?

smoky sail
#

Use omnibar

#

Gladius show dispel idk about interupt

gentle mirage
#

kk, thanks

gentle mirage
#

Can we use food in arena? Or only mage food?

obtuse ice
#

Yes

tropic schooner
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also did you talk 2s or 3s?

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because boomy ele or sp in 2s

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is a big yikeres

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in 3s only a minor yikes

lime light
obtuse ice
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@lime light give

lime light
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😈

gentle mirage
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I was talking about 2v2

smoky sail
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In 2s boomy is very yikes ^^

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U can climb with sub rogue if u play PERFECTLY

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I wish boomy is good in arena valina

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@lime light ready for the FEEED

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Mehx or drx? :p

lime light
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i got the trinket on my dk Kappa

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and i have the mechagon healing thingy LOL

smoky sail
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Dk... 4head

lime light
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i just found it in bank

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i heard its good

smoky sail
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Never try tbh guess urshin's better but moybe

lime light
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iam not that disugsting to raid

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like a pig

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🐖

smoky sail
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I don't even tuch a meleeclass this seas Kappa idk how tank trinket taste

lime light
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idk, gonna play first time with it aswell

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but i hate shit like that

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i was doin same healing as my rsham before i got them

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so might outheal him now

smoky sail
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Full damguuur wuuut

obtuse ice
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Boomie underrated

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Just like BM

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Imho

smoky sail
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N'a

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Boomy suck in 2s by far

lime light
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if u wanna play druid

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play rdru or guardian

obtuse ice
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You bon you monte

lime light
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otherwise u hate your life

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and your teammates

obtuse ice
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I love my life

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(I am in depression)

smoky sail
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Feral is 10x stronger than boomy in any bracket

lime light
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idk the problem with boom is, it dies easly vs malee cleave, and struggle vs disgusting destro comps cuz 10 years cd on beam

smoky sail
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Can't moonfure in bear anymore like