#pvp
obtuse ice
True
rigid linden
Oh okay
teal hemlock
yeah its the feral getting a stun on me on pillar corner then i just get fucked
obtuse ice
SV dmg are pump
wide nova
So which pvp trinket is best maledict?
clear pulsar
For pvp I'd get maledict, safeguard, badge, emblem, in that order
Like I said in #feral , medallion is the better one for pve purposes
He's feral @vestal citrus I'd imagine
teal hemlock
I saw some people saying maledict is not worth using nowadays but i also see quite a lot of ppl playing it still, whats the argument there
like when would i ever play it as resto druid
forest kite
Cyclo
clear pulsar
Not even close
More like 80k from cyclo
And having it interrupted is a lot more likely than maledict dispeled
cold rock
Damn @vestal citrus what spec do you play? I can’t ascend past 1800 in 2s as resto dk (not that I’ve tried recently) and I just quit playing RPS (we got to 1600 because of my rdruid but it’s also because shaman didn’t feel right after playing rdruid for so long. What comp do you run aswell? I really wanna hit 2k lol
cold rock
My buddy and I were thinking about doing WW/UNH DK/ RDRUID but idk how well it would work out but really? Double destroy? Is that really the move lol
really I thought training healer wasn’t the way to go in 3v3 lol
Oh jeez
I feel like the only healer who wouldn’t have an issue would be holy pally
Yeah because of the hots and bearform where pally has to sit and cast right
ahh
damn man it’s been my dream to hit 2k since I was like 14 lol hope I get it with this comp.
tropic schooner
holy pala is actually usually one of the easiest heealers to kill
not sure if you are horde
but belf vs pala in that comp
would hurt
clear pulsar
Yeah hpala is one of the easiest for sure
cold rock
Well I was running rps and it was difficult as hell for my team to train a pally LOL but this isn’t rps it’s we/dk lol
clear pulsar
Pala should never get a divine favor heal off
clear pulsar
And then just massive cc chain
Kidney into silence every 30s
LOL
He used the A word too
cold rock
sorry force of habit lol
clear pulsar
But here's the deal right
I mean, no toxic but
If you're 1600
I dont think you're inposition to be calling people bad
cold rock
In 3v3 I am
clear pulsar
cold rock
But 2v2 I’m 1800
I’m not in anyway saying I’m inferior to anybody
But this guy literally didn’t use kidney cheap shot or garrote ever
Smoke bombed AND blinded for no reason
Oh we dropped him
He’s the reason we couldn’t climb
So my priest ended up moving to WW and I enjoy rdruid way more and I’m better at it
clear pulsar
Rdru is pretty fun and engaging
So is rsham tbh
I think most healers are
Never played any mw tho
Glyph stop baiting
You dirty fuck
cold rock
I enjoyed rsham but I felt like I couldn’t do anything when I was getting trained especially against DH, where as rdruid it’s difficult to get away from dh but I can root and travel away and use ursol so
clear pulsar
Really? Rsham is the biggest livelord
Of all healers
You legit just
Run away in ghost wolf
And heal up to full passively
cold rock
yeah that DH wasn’t letting that happen at all
LOL
I’m just new to rsham
Like I said I’m way better at rdruid
cold rock
Difficult when your team doesn’t help you peel 🙂
and they take a stupid amount of damage LOL
clear pulsar
Well yeah, but are you getting trained or are they getting trained?
cold rock
high burst comps focus me on rsham
Like DH and warrior
me too
My crits don’t go off enough on rdruid, I think I healed for like 90k on two heals the whole game
And that was sotf to a regrowth
cold rock
how
Like I don’t understand
like I’ve studied up on rdruid played it for months now and I still can’t heal like most rdruids
Keep all my hots on, use ironbark when needed cc when needed but when he’s low it’s just ooo byebye
I’m 432 with most bis traits and gear and essences too lol
Like one game I popped swiftmend into a OG and used another regrowth and he still died
He was at like 30% lol
clear pulsar
Regrowth has a 15% buff modifier for pvp, so with a bit more mastery (I only have 1300 on resto set) you can get some massive regrowths
cold rock
I have like 18% mastery
cold rock
wait
Isn’t swiftmend to OG better because it gives all hots and it counts as a sotf heal
cold rock
A big regrowth to too quickly
I thought the regrowth from OG took over as the main heal when that happens
Also stat wise, more vers?
feel like I need way less crit and more vers
cold rock
ah okay
I thought it counted as one big heal AND gave hots to tick
but that’s not how that works apparently lmfao
cold rock
Yeah I figured as much. Guess I have mode practicing to do before I try and hit 2k lol
More*
teal hemlock
the biggest difference in me oging from 1.8k to 2k and beyond was making sure you have a rough idea of trading CDs
etc
minute vendetta is popped
ironbark
before the damage happens
was a big thing for me
stuff like that
cold rock
So for IB pop that on CD or wait till he’s getting buttfucked
teal hemlock
use the voodoo totem healing trinket from atal, and if you bark and use that, your team mate will live even well into dampening 🙂
depends what you are up against
eg rogue is very predictable
vendetta CD is 2 min right, so yu can get a bark the minute he pops it, then one more ironbark in between vendettas
so you could use it on a kidney somewhere in between
as long as you have it back for his next vendetta (track with omni bar)
thinking about things like that will make games more predicable and you can build from there
also learning when to change your pvp talents depending on the matchups, and looking at what CDs and CCs the enemies have before you decide to jump into cat form and stard playing offensively
i lost a lot of games now from trying to do damage when there was no need and getting HoJd and killed in 5 secs etc etc
teal hemlock
bt the biggest think is to just play, a lot. and you will figure things out for youself along the way. what partner do you play with? like class
cold rock
Like I know what I’m doing, but it’s difficult to track my opponents, and their movements with so much going on
DK
unholy
We’re going into WW/UNH dk for 3s
teal hemlock
okay then yeah i guess swapping guardian/feral is good with that comp
yeah exactly what glyph said. i always thought i was being smart by trying to leap in and get some sort of meme kill and it rarely worked
yeah i know, but i mean i played for example a lot of games against ret and i think i can leap in and do damage and try get some pressure up and then i realise my warlock is not in line of sight, i get stunned, wings visions proc, dead
shit like that
now if im gonna try make a "play" and do stuff like that i always look at what CC the enemy has, where my partner is etc
so they cant just swap and kill you
shit ike that
cold rock
Yeah
teal hemlock
was just a learning process
but i mean ive played 1200 2s games now
with the same person
cold rock
That’s the type of shit I have difficultly keeping track of
teal hemlock
so it adds up
i made 2 different omni bars on my screen, one tracking only stuns and kicks, and one tracking everything
makes it easier to see in the heat of the moment
quick glance down, okay rogue has kidney shot available so i should porobably not dive in with no hots on me in cat form
etc
cold rock
What kind of UI set up do you use because I feel like mine cutters my screen lol
Clutters*
teal hemlock
like this, not much clutter
but i use mouseover macros to heal so im already sinning xD
cold rock
Yeah I get that
I try not to switch my UI up too much because it screws me up
That’s my rsham more clutter then my druid but I have omnibar at the top lol
teal hemlock
ah i mean i think its fine
if omnibar was nearer the middle would be better
idk
if its what youa re used to then just keep it
full dust
¿It's resto dh a good comp for 2s?
teal hemlock
@full dust yes
I also was thinking about trying to force myself to not use mouseovers and use arena 123
But cba man
Surely will take me weeks and weeks
So you actually think tbats true tho the wholenot beingavle to turn run and heal kinda thing
Maybe
Do*
Oh shit
Fair play
Yeah
True
Yeah i guess thatd true, but i do have onni, some weak auras etc very ckoseby
But could be worth toying with
I dont want to be at the poibt where my ui is making things harder but probs not important at all
clear pulsar
I think party frames at bottom is kinda weird
I like mine symmetrical to arena frames
teal hemlock
Just from habits of raid and m+ healing as ive done that for years but pvp only for a few months
I might change it and see how it feels
Elvui probs not the best either but 😅
I couldnt get big debuffs to work with my elvui frames
Idk why
When i use blizz frames it works but in elvui it never shows hmmm
Need to tinker a bit
Such a bad habit of just dispelling elvui frames for no reason in pvp cos they glow blue at fucking evrrything
I miss hoj and stuff because theres so many pointless icons like concentrated flame etc all over the frames
Maybe i can blacklist some shit and sort that out but if bigdebuffs work thats a bonus
Got that wa that shows party cds too so i see if partner has wall etc thatd also nice
clear pulsar
There are separate addons for that
Arenateamtracker is the one most people use I believe
teal hemlock
Yea
clear pulsar
It's super useful yeah
shut otter
i have 1k6 cr but i get only 2 token for conflict and strafe ...
ok i receive the rest from mail
wtf
obtuse ice
WTF
tardy hare
WTF
surreal heron
fact
lavish pelican
Good Morning Guys , i play as feral and recently started playing PvP 3v3 with rating 1700. Now i want to build a feral pvp gear and i saw from the top pvp'ers that they Run masterfull instict trait and i can see why. My question is if i get the Survival instiict mastery i get 140% Mastery.If i DoT someone will they be snapshotted with that 140% dmg or the DoT dmg will fall off after Masterful instict 30 sec window expires?
obtuse ice
First you won't have 140% cause it's nerfed in pvp
lavish pelican
I thought the critical is halved in pvp the other stats remained the same
lavish pelican
I assumed it was to do with the Bleeds and the spread of them.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-gb/character/eu/ravencrest/Suffre
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/arathor/Idiotferal
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/duskwood/Fuse
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/character/us/arathor/Sifox
I saw these characters where they play with ~70% mastery and ~15% Vers but i was really hoping the bleed dmg would be snapshotted with that mastery buff from MI
clear pulsar
Critical strike damage is halved, but we're talking about traits
Mastery isn't nerfed
But masterful instincts is
So you only get half the mastery from it
In pvp
@lavish pelican
The only buffs that snapshot are tigers fury and bloodtalons
Stats don't snapshot
Cat is for bite
Suffre is in pve gear tho
forest kayak
But for wpvp MI is great
clear pulsar
MI is great everywhere
cold rock
@clear pulsar yeah I could of taken a screenshot but I was on my phone so LOL
clear pulsar
Tfw glyph doesnt play boomie for me to watch and learn
sudden skiff
Hey guys. me and my friend want to get cns (druid,hpala). what comp would you recommend for 2s and how would a common opener for us look like? we are both new to pvp so we are a bit clueless
and shall I Clone the heal and kill the DD or whats my goal?
odd juniper
Whats pervs name on twitch?
obtuse ice
Urchin pants worth??
rigid linden
Yeah seems good still LOL
obtuse ice
Wtfff
molten rapids
How do you deal with Unholy DK in 2s as Restro in small arenas? I feel like i cant kite them and when they even connect for 5secs they completely destroy me
rigid linden
Connect once bash them deer formleap away
Connect again ursols
Connect again deer leap or skin
Rince n repeat
west laurel
Or just dont Connect and play perfectly omegalul
Big brain strats from me
Thank mr later
Me
molten rapids
Do you run bear against them ? In most bigger arenas this is no problem but in Ruins of Lordaeron i wasnt able to really get away repeatedly and i just flopped after some time
tiny oar
in depth guide on how to kite any dk trying to hit you
obtuse ice
LMAO
Remember the most important
It has to be counter clockwise
Otherwise it doesn't work
obtuse ice
Pro
clear pulsar
Prime for smashing
obsidian acorn
It’s a known fact dks can’t run counter clockwise
teal hemlock
i agree with this
distant crypt
What’s better for rdruid in 2s DH, Arms, or WW partner?
obtuse ice
bois we are SAFE
west oasis
forest kite
how do u counter guardian comp really?
like what is the strategy if u are not mage/lock ?
lock is the only class i dont have at 120 can't play that shit
so boring and op
forest kite
healer starts to hug guardian it takes no dmg
if its rsham with spirit pack 0 chance u kill it
obtuse ice
It was
So gud
Best spec
Transforming onto that demon form
Yhea...
But it was pretty fun to play
Now you just throw pets like a dummy
Woaw.
still magnet
@vestal citrus I’m going to start queueing with Stab
And farm you
Give me your points little man
Side note
Ehunnies love the arena rating
LOL
odd juniper
@still magnet ur going to stream soon maybe?
still magnet
Uhhhh idk, maybe
west oasis
@still magnet aye you're gonna be the next trill
maybe better 
good in raids ✅
good in pvp ✅
good in m+ ✅
caster/pro ✅
still magnet
probably not better because he actually competes in those things
where i just talk about them
surreal heron
wise valley
wise valley
that also goes for @clear pulsar
forest kite
Feral weapon still has 25 corruption
OP?
rogue 1h even has 35
or just feral starts strong start of season and then gets rekt when people get to wear more corruption gear
forest kite
it's confirmed u can get corruption proc from m+ cache on weapon i believe
but I don't think shiver lance can be inside it
they are removing titanforge so i dunno
i thought raid loot weapons are static
we will see I guess
true
and this corruption stuff + new trinket
hope locks get rekt at least
due to low mobility but they prolly just tank all the dmg
been crazy good since 8.1
rdruid nerf prolly like spriest nerf
scaling just too strong
mastery was OP
besides rdruid can stack haste/vers instead and do more dmg
clear pulsar
@west oasis you talked about ping
In forum squad
Bro
It's so ridiculous
How many times people leave gaps between their cc
And I just cant kick cuz of lag
Half a second between cyclones and I cant do anything about it
It's the most upsetting
surreal heron
unluck
west oasis
he's BR
so like
150-200 ping is standard for him
xd
LOL
@clear pulsar you ehard it hear first
clear pulsar
Depends on server
East servers 170~ avg
West servers 200~ avg
I had slightly lower ping in old place with previous ISP
Previous ISP was so much better than current
This one has rly bad stability issues
I know some people that live in the northern parts of Brazil get like 110ms
Must be nutty, except they're living in shittiest part of the country
BRO
Those 7am games
Getting matched with hella aussies
It's insanity
:(
This is it
I'm not 2.4 cuz of aussies
wise valley
pretty crazy how i aint regular yet
surreal heron
clear pulsar
Glyph is only expert in warlock channel
Why would he be expert here when he doesnt even play druid
wise valley
basically means he is an expert druid at this point
@clear pulsar why arent you expert
wise valley
obtuse ice
Blink
clear pulsar
All 3 full hp
sly comet
guys what would you suggest as comp DK or DH /guardian/rsham ?
dk or dh in this situation ?
or any other melee btw if you think about anything else like rogue, monk and hunt
round dome
@shut otter get ready for a bunch of unhappy people to explain to you how broken guardian is
shut otter
im ready
but if no pro player play guardian
thats because its bad
against other class
round dome
it's been played at a tournament once
clear pulsar
It was played at blizzcon
The fuck you mean it isn't pro players playing it? @shut otter
Thugonomics' guardian is higher than his lock
sly comet
😄 my goal wasn't to do some noise, it was a real question haha i guess DK with necrotic would me more useful than a dh right ?
clear pulsar
DH has mana burn
Which is a "guaranteed" win condition
Since guardian doesnt really have
Much of anything
Other than damage and survivability
👍
sharp wasp
Maybe I'm naive, and certainly not an expert PvP player like u folks. But why exactly is bear bad? If u have 900k health a few different stuns and can heal. Solid dps, Isnt that a good start?
sharp wasp
@lime lightthat does t sound bad if it op. Just means anyone can do well in bear no?
lime light
that means no one is having fun in whole arena, if there is one monkey that has no idea what is he doin
but topping dps matters and healing matters
while being the most tanky person in whole world
sharp wasp
@lime lightso u saying no one plays bear cause they have an unfair advantage which makes it less fun for everyone else.
sly comet
so what should i ask my bear friend to do ? annoy enemy healer ?
lime light
no, the point is, ppl starting to play a bear now
and no one else have fun
cuz the shit players, can win arenas anytime
sharp wasp
So u think everyone will start playing bear once they figure it out. Like DH.
lime light
they already started lol
sharp wasp
Lol so how good is ur bear?
sly comet
@lime light so what's the best comp with a bear ? lol
sharp wasp
DH of course?
clear pulsar
Ww too
@sharp wasp people already play bear
But since the only existing druids are resto
And resto is best healer for most comps
The existing druids didnt reroll
And very few people are gonna level a druid and gear it up
If they're already playing something good
Some people did
But mostly the guardians are boomies and ferals who cant find other people to play their main spec with cuz it's outclassed by destro and assa respectively.
I've faced far more guardians than boomies or ferals since blizzcon
sharp wasp
@clear pulsarim a boomie but have a 445 bear in my bags. So glad to hear it.
neon storm
Supatease just made the switch from Balance to Guardian.
shut otter
Any guardian guide so?
sly comet
@shut otter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48LlOiHZpqY
sharp wasp
Just watched the vid. Its Beartastic
rigid linden
Guide on pressing swipe thrash moonfire and standing on your healer
Real skill
Welcome to s3
While also being unccable, unkillable and same dmf as other dps
/spit
Imma cut my eyes out so i dont needa see another stupid fucking bear
tiny oar
Same
unkempt wind
if you play Guardian lemme know so I can block you
heavy lichen
I was playing DH/guardian/rsham last night and the rshaman was removed from btag after two different games from friends 😂
obtuse ice
I have find definition of vacuity
rigid linden
If u play guardian lemme know so i can write u a 1000 word essay on how if u played feral ud be dogshit
ripe sierra
I'm named Feral but I play guardian. I have ascended.
obtuse ice
😒
rigid linden
think ive seen u in bgs LOL
obtuse ice
Who?!
ripe sierra
Possibly. Feral-Ravencrest? @rigid linden
Cause ik another guy with my name running around but from Crushridge or whatever.
I haven't done bgs a lot lately ever since I went alli, except when friends want carries on FC maps. 
wise valley
@rigid linden lemme get that essay allen
rigid linden
I h8 u
weary radish
As a Feral, what enchants should I be using?
rigid linden
Force multiplier
spare quartz
I wonder if that video will work for rbg guardian druids
weary radish
Also follow up queston: Is a 425 Legs that are Mastery and Vers better then a 435 Legs that are Crit Haste on Feral?
west oasis
that's kind of the beauty of fire MLD
yeah you can use all your stops on the mage all you want to
but eventually the lock (if he's good) will find ways to make the pressure come to him
whether it's fear/coil setup, or the one bolt to make you played scared
you have to focus on those eventually as a guardian team and your resources just become spread out then
ripe sierra
@vestal citrus If the bear was letting you get pies off then the bear was doing somethin wrong 
Ah
The few 3s I did, the fire mage's team seemed to never cc me
He got like 2 pies off all game
rigid linden
@weary radish mastery vers legs better
lime light
Daily reminder if u Guardian q for m10 not arena
tardy hare
Lmao
somber flower
Hei! As resto druid in arenas how and when i can use Soothe ?
tiny oar
against fury warriors is the main use i could think of
tropic schooner
Realistically Its never correct
clear pulsar
Soothe is useless
somber flower
nice to hear that
lime light
Ye, and they reapply IT almost insta
Soothie is only good for berserker Rage when u play with lock maybe
clear pulsar
Yeah I think it removes berserk rage too @tropic schooner
But it's like, so inconsequential
Sure you can get a half fear out, but it'll already have served the main purpose of breaking the full fear
lime light
Its only good if u full pvp gear, have no idea about m+ dungeon but u know its raging, u link IT to the tank
Insta invite
👍
lime light
weary radish
Thanks @rigid linden
Follow up question then. At which point does a ilvl upgrade beat mastery/vers?
I'm assuming no one has pawn weights?
lime light
There is a pvp scalling
No one knows how IT works
Even devs
U wanna get bis stats
Mastery versa
And sockets are worth a lot lot
obtuse ice
Xmas psyduck ommmmggggg
lime light
😒
weary radish
Yeah but as I asked earlier. I had a mastery vers 425 legs vs Crit Haste 435. And if I'm mastery >> agi then I'd assume a 425 > 435?
clear pulsar
Probably take mastery vers
obtuse ice
Beat mast vers
clear pulsar
At just 10 ilvl diff
sharp wasp
Bear powa 🐻
weary radish
I love feral tbh
But tha ms for the input
clear pulsar
What you mean? @weary radish
Tha ms
Ah that's a typo
I thought it was some lingo I didn't know about
weary radish
Lol yeah
sharp wasp
So can we ask bear PvP questions or is the topic totally banned?
weary radish
Been a rough couple days. Haven't slept well.
It meant thanks for the input.
lime light
Bear talk is banned 😒
sharp wasp
Gotcha.
obtuse ice
🤪
sharp wasp
@clear pulsarhey i just asked a simple releveant question. Its not my fault bear is broken.
obtuse ice
Lmao
sharp wasp
Well if there was a easier way to get the stupid essence or it wasnt bis then I wouldnt have to resort to bear right? I'm just playin the game via the rule that are written. But i didnt write them.
clear pulsar
Not really
The idea that you need to play bear is kinda silly
Couple of points
Bear is both stronger and easier than boomie and feral, but people are still getting 2.7+ as those specs. They aren't bad per se, just outclassed by similar specs from other classes.
CnS is "bis" for pve sure, but I have a feeling 0.2% dps gain is not gonna be making much of a difference in whatever progression or competitive spot you're in for m+ or raid.
You can get 1600 by just doing your damage rotation, which you should be more than familiar with if you think you need CnS to stay competitive in pve, as any of the 4 druid specs. 1600 gives you CnS in 3 weeks. 1800 also gives you CnS in 3 weeks. You'd need 2100 to get it any quicker than that, which I would imagine you arent gonna be achieving on your first week of doing arena as bear.
If you really don't care for pvp and just want to afk thru games for 10+ mins at a time while watching netflix, by all means. But if that's the case, I don't understand why you're so fascinated with whether people think more or less of you as a pvper for doing so.
obtuse ice
And easier is relative cause playing bear will not increase your knowledge of pvp
clear pulsar
It's not relative
You might get lost in translation
Cuz
Whether it'll make you a better player or not
Has nothing to do with how easy it is
clear pulsar
Havoc is super simple
I guess you kinda still need some idea of like
DRs and positioning
In 3s anyway
At least havoc feels like you're doing something
Sometimes
radiant arch
Oh shit guardian pvp talk 
vestal rain
I never play melee comps, was thinking about queing some with my dk friend. Ww/dk or TSG. Do i just not play cyclone?
As resto
forest kite
havoc in 2v2 is the most braindead spec
fury warrior weapon got +75 corruption but 5% their hp
they get OP late patch i guess
fair bane
As a resto druid i just cannot survive or kite assa rogues to any degree compared to any other class.
clear pulsar
You should
fair bane
Often amazed if i last 60 seconds.
Where am i going wrong
Soon as vortex and bash are CD
clear pulsar
Idk, what are you doing?
fair bane
Im a goner.
clear pulsar
:)
fair bane
Vortex and wild charge away
then bashed once caught me again
he insta trinketed and just trucked me 100 to 20%
at which point i was panicing unsure how on earth i get out of this
got a wild charge off and fell moments later once he caught me
fair bane
I dont, i should start recording
clear pulsar
That would be helpful
The gist of it is you want to hot yourself and be in bear form before you get kidney shotted
Have your teammate slow the rogue so you can run and have them need to shadowstep
So then you can vortex
While step is on cd
obtuse ice
It's better to wild charge and vortex
forest kite
Do you anticipate gap closers and bear? I try and pre bear the swaps with guardian affinity. Or else I feel assas rogues rip me up.
rustic heron
One more thing you can do if kidney is off cd, Is charge the opponent healer in bear form to get distance. Better rogues will just anticipate the change to travel form > wild charge and kidney you then
brisk geode
Are the BoD trinkets still decent in PVP for rdruid? I have a mirror and a ward both 415
rare tendon
What comp do guardian druids run with in 2s?
I just see people running it like 2k+ sometimes on random streams and i wanted to try it out
but i dont remember what they ran with
clear pulsar
Without bloodtalons
clear pulsar
Meanwhile bleed specs be like
surreal heron
wary pier
@rare tendon take a melee Unholy dk is good, Dh are good and monks i havent tried with a rogue yet though
balmy jasper
anyone know what az traits bears run in arena rn?
stray sigil
power of moon prob
balmy jasper
was guessing that + twisted claws
clear pulsar
1x waking dream
Always
#1 priority
I imagine 1x gory regen is also great
Maybe try to catch thug online and ask him what he thinks is best
wary pier
3X power of moon, 1 X waking dream
lime light
Daily reminder, if u q as Guardian for 3s, u wont get anything for xmas
Karma is a biiitch
tiny oar
lime light
🤜 🤛
surreal heron
lime light
Might be ye
obtuse ice
Daily reminder that if you play Guardian it's because your parents didn't give you enough affection during your childhood
surreal heron
lime light
😂
tiny oar
lime light
👍
wary pier
what about pally tanks and brewmasters and warrior tanks they get nothing too?
clear pulsar
Nobody plays any of those
They arent nearly as strong as guardian
And idk about brm or protwarrior, but prot pala is 52x more engaging than guardian
lime light
Prot pall was op, and they nerfed IT a lot
sharp wasp
@balmy jasperim gonna try 2 TC 2Potm and 2 WF. I dont have a waking dream mind u
tropic schooner
pretty sure guardian wasnt op a year ago
season one you had absurd offheals from ferals/enh/rets
and generally more casters
rigid linden
daily reminder that if u play guardian
fuck you
daily reminder that if u do a daily reminder hating on bears
i love you
weekly reminder
fuck bears
monthly reminder
fuck bears
yearly reminder
formy reminder
warden supports bears
tiny oar
#banwarden #banbears
rigid linden
^
obtuse ice
👀
remote gust
hey guys, which essences are the best for 2v2 arena?
rigid linden
As?
obtuse ice
Fuck fire
sharp wasp
@remote gustanima major, null and conflict or lucid all at r3
subtle pine
PVP Noob question. Is Korrak's Revenge the best honor faucet right now? Mostly just wanting to knock out Honor 80 so I can call my legion artifacts done.
sharp wasp
You missed.
neon storm
That is Guardian/Resto with Protector of the Pack in 2's.
west oasis
lmao
this is more accurate i think
@still magnet thoughts?
@vestal citrus @tropic schooner @tardy hare @clear pulsar
clear pulsar
That is tettles through and through
west oasis
tardy hare
@spice juniper enlighten these boys with the power of the BAER
low ridge
what pvp talents should i take for resto?
west oasis
setup comps = cyclone + fg/og/thorns/revitalize
dampener w/ no setup necessary = og + revitalize/thorns/fg
can take MS in either situation (usually if you cannot get punished)
motw is a solid choice vs wizards like MLD or boomie/ele
obtuse ice
Daily reminder that if you play Guardian you will have a lonely life
forest kite
How long does it take for DH to oom rsham in 2v2 nowadays?
crystal goblet
Any good ferals able to give me some arena advice. My damage seems to be quite low at the end of the games. Is it because I'm not mainting dots on 2 targets, cloning to much, sitting bear form etc?
clear pulsar
Who knows
How is anyone supposed to know if you're cloning too much or sitting bear form too much
Without seeing you play?
It could be a number of things
Bad gear, bad play, but feral also wont be top of the meters often
There are games and comps where you wanna bleed multiple people, other games it wont help you much
So on and so forth
If you can record your games and show them to someone, that's the best way to get direct advice
crystal goblet
aight willdo
well my gear is 435. Only have 2 essence slots no lucid dreams rank 3 don't have optimal traits either
But I feel its the way I'm playing is the issue
You want me to put a youtube link?
clear pulsar
Eh. I'm not great, can try to help, formy is the man
tiny oar
Daily reminder every time you play guardian in arena a feral druid dies.
clear pulsar
Horde feral fresh 120 straight into bis azerite AMA
spice juniper
@tardy hare you summoned BAER?
lime light
Hello team, daily reminder if u bear u shit
spice juniper
Well, technically the phrase is, "if you BAER you shit in the woods". Everyone else also shit.
tardy hare
@spice juniper yes, bear is OP in pvp
glossy sleet
hi fellow druids, i watched trilles stream yesterday where he did some viewer games with commentary.. he mentioned shifting into cat for more dot dmg after applying, thru master shapeshifter... he also spoke about disc priests and dhs being the only one having access to increase to cof dmg, thru shism or dhs 5% magic debuff. i now talked to someone mentioning shapeshifting would increase the cof dmg too. i logged onto my druid to test these things and for me it looks like this:
-cof inital and dot partion is not increased by master shapeshifter
-moonfire dots are increased after you shift into cat
-but.. sunfire dots are not increased
has anyone experienced this? tested on pvp dummy in dazaralor
tldr: does master shapeshifter not increase sunfire dot dmg?
tropic schooner
Thats interesting
If you Tested it seems true never tried that stuff
But should be easy to test
clear pulsar
Crucible of flame isnt affected by master shapeshifter
Mostly no trinkets or essences are
glossy sleet
wondering wether its the pvp dummy
clear pulsar
Only affects your own damage
lime light
@vestal citrus or Frost dk
Speced yestarday into 23k dps
Chill streak btw
And Frost fever
More dot dmg then feral
clear pulsar
And yeah looks like certain spells arent increased. For instance thrash isnt increased as guardian, but moonfire is.
Well, thrash from bear form isn't
But thrash from cat form is
glossy sleet
maybe it has something to do with moonfire being able to be casted in bear form already, so like some flag... while sunfire does not have that
glossy sleet
what is the master shapeshifter effect for bear?
clear pulsar
Unlikely
Thrash can be used by feral
In cat form
But thrash from bear isn't affected
While thrash from cat is
Doesnt make much sense
glossy sleet
hm
how do you check if the spell dmg is higher
oh with or without the pvp talent i suppose <.<
clear pulsar
As guardian
tropic schooner
Cast AS bear and Shift into cat
glossy sleet
aah now i see
yeah, for me those are different spells, i suppose different spell ids or w/e
forgot about the dot part... i thought inital dmg and wondered how to test that <.<
btw. entenzwerg, did you play on teldrassil?
tropic schooner
no
glossy sleet
ok
rigid linden
Daily reminder that if you play bear in pvp you are a putrid plague who belongs in the asshole of under rot
thnx.
worldly glade
^
lime light
yes, and no presents under a tree
wise valley
Rip juicewrld
obtuse ice
Wow formy this onew was r u d e
neon storm
Can anyone confirm in the Ripple In Time Essence Speed Boost stacks with our forms especially Travel Form?
stuck talon
anyone know if conflict n strife R3 is your highest rank for that week or rank at the end of the week? like if i break 1600 i'll get 5, do i need to stay above 1600?
tropic schooner
you dont even need to play arena to get it
so it may actually be end of weeek
because its weird
stuck talon
like just cap conquest after rank 2 kinda thing?
tropic schooner
yes
if you have the needed rating
you dont actually need games
its a bit weird
(unless you care about the ilvl)
lime light
how is that game still a thing
losing to horrible players, that have no idea what they are doin
how there are ppl that still play feral
wispy wadi
what kinda essences are resto druids using for rbgs
not sure what to pick between lucid, ert and well
teal hemlock
i had a few games tonight and had no clue what to do in the situation - rogue blinded me (healer) and went on the monk dos i was playing with but didnt use vendetta or anything. still had so much pressure. didnt want to trinket the blind and waste it - ofc i get sapped off of the blind then the dps ends up dying - how can i outplay this?
I should i have just trinketed?
then i get fucked later in a kidney maybe idk
usually play with lock so this never happens or is never scary but with other classes could easily be a kill for the other team
tiny oar
Daily reminder every time you queue guardian druid in arena you add another year to your sentence in hell
surreal heron
tiny oar
I'm up to a 30 year sentence ☠️
forest kite
Does it break cc?
It has travel time, right? So some gets incapped or sheeped and it breaks it?
round hemlock
does anyone have an idea what resto talents/pvp talents to run in rbgs? can't use the search function for some reason
am confuse
clear pulsar
The wowhead guide is pretty much all you want to know, read the talent breakdowns instead of just looking at the talent calculator tho
lime light
daily friendly reminder, if u guardian u trash, if u feral u stupid
lime light
same
and remember to not q with 200k hp rsham
might be not the best for your mental health
lime light
i can heal u on my dk
forest kite
rsham needs 350k hp to be decent
can't wait to get another exciting 430 ilvl from conquest next week. very helpful.
clear pulsar
That's on you
It sucks on season start cuz duelist is filled with glads and rank 1s
But at this point
forest kite
I mean the weekly reward. it only goes 430 and no one needs 430
lime light
or trash players abusing broken specs
forest kite
at least blizz might give new yearspecial bonus to upgrade weapon
clear pulsar
True conquest bar sucks
But now at least I raid
So I get the busted pve gear
:D
forest kite
i don't have time to raid anymore. fortunately m+ 15 drops good loot next season
lime light
compare dk to a feral, how is that fair
i never died as dk in my life
its impossible
and as feral u are ded to a wind
forest kite
i think assa is much more busted than dk
clear pulsar
You're just unwilling
forest kite
really no time, i used to raid 5h a week
clear pulsar
You have time to talk hella shit in discord
forest kite
also changed faction would take time to find a guild that works and establish myself etc
clear pulsar
lime light
^feral
somber shuttle
Anyone got any links to good guides on improving survivability when being focused in 2v2s, Im getting trashed when I get swoped to even in bear.
rare tendon
Are you resto?
somber shuttle
yeah.
obtuse ice
😔
tropic schooner
Resto is a Lot better
clear imp
thank you
ocean barn
Want to find feral buddy to run 2s with (on a BM hunter) and to re-learn the way of the cat 😉
somber flower
Hei! In 2vs2 as resto druid could be fine to always use conflict and strike as main essence?
And someone can give me an advice about how to use "soul of the forest"? ty
rigid linden
TiantonYesterday at 6:22 PM
daily friendly reminder, if u guardian u trash, if u feral u stupid
wispy wadi
can someone please queue US pvp islands
queue never pops, is it bugged or theres nobody doing it
rare tendon
pvp islands have slow queues
and with it being monday morning for the US there's likely just not a lot of people doing it
unkempt wind
@rigid linden why is it stupid to play feral sir
rare tendon
he jelly cuz he has no claws at the end of his paws
forest kite
guardian is the real alpha druid. The true manifestation of druid power.
stray sigil
@unkempt wind cuz its shit bro
clear pulsar
Honestly
If they just made SI a bit longer like it was in Legion
And infected wounds 50% like it was in Legion
Feral would feel aokay
clear pulsar
Also cyclone baseline/on conflict and strife
Cuz it's our pvp talents are nonchoices and it feels awful
forest kite
I think still not comparable to Assa rogue with short feint cd and 30% wound poison
obtuse ice
🍑
forest kite
its just you dot as assa and actually see them rotting but feral one seems little effect
lime light
no, its not only that
the meta is dog for feral aswell
and they have to push feral into glass cannon > buff dmg (bleeds) or give some survi
clear pulsar
I am perfectly fine with not having a damage cd
round dome
I miss kittycleave being a good comp
distant crypt
I’m not great at the game. Which DPS would be the best to “carry” me in 2v2 as a Resto Druid?
Leaning DH or Arms partner
teal hemlock
dh
distant crypt
DH aren’t to easy mode? With a low skill ceiling how can they really carry and outplay?
distant crypt
Thanks DH it is, time to be toxic! 👌🏻
round dome
dh is by far the easiest
I see rdruids playing the comp at 2400+ who just go guardian and healbot
every match
dont think you can get away with that with any other dps
clear pulsar
State of feral mains
tiny oar
unkempt wind
Feral ain't faceroll but it's good enough to be top 100 in any bracket