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#pvp
obtuse ice
wise valley
😏
eager ingot
Ummm good for u?
wise valley
we touched....tips
eager ingot
It’s none of my business if you kneel for him.
wise valley
other way around
hes like 5 6 im taller than him on my knees : /
any other fascinating feral insights you can share with us
eager ingot
You’re such a sunshine.
wise valley
i really am
eager ingot
People like sunshine is reason I enjoy wow.
wise valley
why use many word when few word do trick
wise valley
probably not i stomped 1500s with my rogue sorry
forest kite
1v1 I fear WW more than rogue, but maybe that is just me as feral
tardy hare
Also yes
wise valley
duel better rogues but ww is also stupid
i dont think i ever saw my GM lose to a feral
or at all
tbh
obtuse ice
no smoking allowed there
obtuse ice
VR
tardy hare
bro don't attack me like that 😦
i was 2 win off 😦
aye
Imagine me a 2.1 exp shaman
now imagine me making a feral
Now imagine me 2.8kxp 2 weeks later
everyone in goldshire call me boosted
I cry
I duel them
call them huge trash
Me happy
haha owned
clear pulsar
Imagine
Rerolling off feral the moment it isn't busted
@tardy hare you huge trash
tardy hare
I've always been a multi classer at heart
nobody want to play with feral
and my buddy is gone
what am I supposed to do 😦
west oasis
@tardy hare you huge trash
tardy hare
@west oasis I raised you, and now you betray me
west oasis
LOOOL
tardy hare
tardy hare
Meow
surreal heron
@wise valley
tardy hare
: (
tardy hare
tardy hare
no
west oasis
tardy hare
I flew an airplane into the schoolbuilding
west oasis
WTF LOOOL
surreal heron
Idek what you want me to do
wise valley
tell that idiot hes a fucking moron
clear pulsar
35k bite on the rogue in hook point
wise valley
lay down ur big dick
west oasis
sounds like boomie surge
clear pulsar
Not crit actually
wise valley
LMAO
west oasis
bro LMAOOO
clear pulsar
Oh my
tardy hare
I got an 8.2/10 for it
west oasis
what did you yell
tardy hare
It's fine I fly past the building in the end
It just goes towards it untill the last second
xd
west oasis
ohhhhh
clear pulsar
Oh my god
tardy hare
people were very amused when I walked into the screen as 4 different characters
lime light
lol
odd juniper
boomie stacking vers with revitalizing vodoo totem is kinda amazing
clear pulsar
Can you voodoo totem then go bear form to take extra heal from your own trinket?
odd juniper
u can vodoo totem in bearform 😄
clear pulsar
Yes, does it increase healing fro mthe trinket?
clear pulsar
:(
odd juniper
idk if i should be using mecha trinket
clear pulsar
If new moon wasn't fucking 25s cd I'd play boomie more
clear pulsar
@vestal citrus the boomies in my guild dont even dot both bosses in queen's court
It's so depressing
I think that's more so
The boomie does a lot of instant casts
Training boomie doesnt really make you avoid damage
Cuz you can still eat triple starsurge
surreal heron
no
wise valley
fuck u
surreal heron
k
clear pulsar
Just stop stacking haste
wise valley
im just kidding i love u
what do u even know about that
you throw fel fire at people
and kill their entire family tree
clear pulsar
Like for real
odd juniper
revert -10% starsurge nerf and CA nerf
- make VOP not transform out from bear form
and we're gucci
forest kite
revert streaking nerf so can moonfire/sunfire 100-0 again
wise valley
have u made love to your classes fanfiction authors?
forest kite
if boomy so bad why always top of meters
well at least the 10% nerf to dots next patch fixes that
odd juniper
stop trolling us xD
clear pulsar
I'm not shitting you, stack mastery and get big surges @vestal citrus
clear pulsar
Swapping from my haste pve set that sims highest as boomie to my feral mastery gear with 2k mastery, my surge damage goes up more than 20%
Same ilvl
wise valley
i neeed to be high to do damage
clear pulsar
Got legit 5 starsurges in one kidney
Well 4
The 5th was after kidney
Lucid dreams is kinda lit for boomie
Like I'm not trying to argue that boomie is good
But starsurges do good dam bro
Did the dk outheal it with 10 death strikes that all healed him 50k? Yes
But it does
Good dam
odd juniper
ur playing with lucid dream?
clear pulsar
I dont play boomie
Just did a skirm to test the damage of starsurge with my mastery gear
Lucid major seems like a lit window with warrior of elune and fury of elune
I should have taken disarm, probably would have killed the dk
west oasis
yeah but it just sucks that on average a fire mage or warlock will do alot more
odd juniper
actually feral compared to assa feels better
clear pulsar
Feral only feels better in 2s
Cuz thorns is useful
@west oasis how come you're regular
If you come here once a month
Wtf
That's true
odd juniper
btw, ive got a question
[Woundbinder] works on cast or things like trinkets works on this?
tardy hare
@west oasis retire when
clear pulsar
But you can root beam to bait them into bear to then hibernate @vestal citrus
🧠
Well you can root beam with regular root
And like
Not everyone has a cancelaura for forms
Some people just spam the button to get out, which takes a gcd
Maybe you can catch them
Yep
I've had a game where
Enemy rdru was spamming hibernate on me
And I couldnt do damage
Cuz was always on global
Shifting
But
That also meant he didnt heal anybody
And suddenly his rogue was at 30%
tardy hare
Cancelaura
clear pulsar
It was hilarious but very sad to play :(
clear pulsar
I used to have the cvar that "protects" quick unshifting turned off
But at 180ms it was doing more harm than good
So I just made cancelaura
tardy hare
F
clear pulsar
It's faster and doesnt fuck me over
Also you dont even need one as boomie you gross fat chicken
clear pulsar
I dont have cancelaura bop because
That means enemy fire mage will be vulnerable
For 30s
tardy hare
:(
tardy hare
Rocket league good
clear pulsar
It looks fucking lit
For a month or so youtube was recommending me hella rocket league videos
tardy hare
I cheat in shooters cause I suck at them
tardy hare
Or neck actually beter with recoil
clear pulsar
Just body shots
tardy hare
No
clear pulsar
Cba trying to aim at heads
tardy hare
I pop heads only
clear pulsar
You dont
tardy hare
Except awp
tardy hare
I controo the software with alt
clear pulsar
Got supreme but havent been able to play much since uni
tardy hare
Looks fun
west oasis
@clear pulsar tru
i wonder when the mods will get me the old man stick
👴🏾
retire and go into a zen state
forest kite
Guardians are angry and they are in my games
junior creek
Hi I was wondering as someone that has never really pvped and has no rank how would I get into groups just to farm for my essence when all ppl seem to want r hi mmr rankings in the premade qs
I've spent the last hr trying to find a group and all I get is turned down to told about sell groups that bot me
west oasis
@junior creek if you're just farming
just post "yolo, farming essence" queues
or something like that
junior creek
Ah ok cool ty
wise valley
and dont be obviously a shitter
junior creek
I play feral and I no my class well anuf lol
Wish I had the gear for boomkin but sadly I dont
teal hemlock
Is there any specific way i should be using the dps voodoo doll trinket in arwna? Been avoiding using it but gonna give it a try
wise valley
4head
teal hemlock
👺👺👺👺
I mean ysually its just dispelled i guess full bash is long enough to have it pop
Or a full fear maybe
clear pulsar
Chain cc on healer
Bash healer, use voodoo, then cyclone off
Or have your team do it
wise valley
yeah much easier to get team mate to use his voodoo
why use many button when few button do trick
brought to you by dh gang
teal hemlock
Ive been playing with healing voodoo and mythic sliver until now but i think dps voodoo could be better
We have been hard stuck at around 2130cr for about 100 games now, basically always losing to SV hunters and arms warrior
rancid pebble
For the mastery nerf inc for resto do you think it’s going to be a decent stat weight change or pretty minimal
wary pier
what talents is it that a WW can feed of guardian druids buffs and do mass damage?
clear pulsar
Very minimal
loud axle
den mother @wary pier
wary pier
no sorry @loud axle not thedruids talent the WW talent sorry I worded that wrong
clear pulsar
Reverse Harm
loud axle
reverse harm for a talent, touch of death as an ability
den mother + fort brew + battlemaster trinket makes reverse harm and ToD do more dmg
clear pulsar
Well yeah you can just use reverse harm on the guardian and it'll do more damage than if you used it on yourself with emblem and brew both up
wary pier
thanks
loud axle
well typically if they are using all those for the ToD, they are expecting a kill
west oasis
@rancid pebble we wont even notice it as we get higher ilvl
wary pier
what is the odds that you get 6 people from the same realm in a random bg
tropic schooner
50/50
narrow grail
In Arena which spec is good? Feral perhaps?
loud axle
@vestal citrus where is guardian guide mate
just what traits do I use really, ik the talents fairly well
xD
loud axle
idk I've got 3x Grove, 1x Regen, 1x Waking, 1x Savagery
narrow grail
So as resto druid, which talents you prefer i mean for pvp talent
Cyclone is a must
What else, care to ask
Because i remember rogue druid combo was amazingly strong
Druid was using cyclone on me when i was with mw monk
Nevermind lads i am checking icy veins for that
tardy hare
Usually focussed growth and another one
Overgrowth, thorns, clone, focussed growth iirc
@narrow grail
Or the shapeshifter one if u go for damage
narrow grail
Thank you very much @tardy hare
sharp wasp
Someone told me the conflict essence gives thorns as a free trait? And then u can pick 3 more? True?
tropic schooner
for moonkin yes
"free" is a bit debateable
I have issues with saying its free
but yes it does give you thorns
sharp wasp
@tropic schoonerand u can choose 3 additional or is thorns included in the 3?
sharp wasp
Is that only at lvl 3?
sharp wasp
Ohh that makes sense. I used it as a minor and was confused. Im using lucid as a major for pvp
obtuse ice
As feral?
sharp wasp
@obtuse iceboomie
clear pulsar
You'd think the chicken picture gave that away
west oasis
@loud axle lmao just ask glyph, he's way more knowledgeable about that than i am
if anything
i'd probably just copycat someone on the ladder
maybe ask @still magnet
since he's been playing with it @ 2.3 LOL
heavy lichen
I'm still looking for a guardian druid to do 3s with. Us alliance multi glad DH. hit me up
heavy lichen
Tired of vsing mld on my main DH so I want to return the pain onto others
clear pulsar
:(
ripe sierra
I would come but I don't have much arena experience. Lot of general pvp experience but that is from RBGs
still magnet
@loud axle you play x3 Undulating, 1 waking, 1 POTM, 1 whatever (twisted claws because that’s where undulating is)
west oasis
clear pulsar
The only time we have any mod show up in pvp chat
It is to spread word about fucking guardian druids
So toxic
surreal heron
¯_(ツ)_/¯
still magnet
Shout out bear PVP
I’m also 2.4 in resto 2’s
I’m a gamer pls
And 2200 as DH in 2’s, but that’s just a consolation award
still magnet
LOL
Queuing into RDruid as DH just hurts me
Bc they spam stealth and make me wish for death
clear pulsar
Queueing into rdruid dh as anything hurts everybody
cries in meow
Maybe not as destro hpriest
Cuz fuck that noise
clear pulsar
Yeah
clear pulsar
Not yet
It wouldnt surprise me if I open your stream next week and tettlebolts is out there 2-shotting people
still magnet
I’d need a warlock
loud axle
Undulating tides, shit that seems like I gotta raid for that
still magnet
@clear pulsar honestly as bear, We have like an 85% WR against Rogue + Mage or any double melee. Then we have maybe a 10% WR against MLD and like 20% against double ranged
It’s miserable
MLD is a plague and I’m literally playing a tank. It’s a disgusting meta
clear pulsar
Mhm free fucking win vs melee cleaves
Just play boomie bro, be the change we wanna see in the world
clear pulsar
Gotta stay strong
In times when the devil tempts you to roll guardian
NOT TODAY DEVIL
loud axle
I hear boomy prot pal is op 
west oasis
LMAOOOO
loud axle
I probably don’t have time to do raiding on druid
Still at 411 equipped lol was just hoping to find meme games on guardian since nobody will q with a boomy 😦
just remembered I hate pugging anyways and don't know anybody on horde who'd do guardian stuff, nvm
lfg players are often the big dumb
sharp wasp
Are u running an offensive build with guardian?
vestal rain
As rmd when do you go relentless as rdruid? I think i should use it more often. Vs what classes?
wise valley
sellout like machtig
formy you think feral beats sin rogue in 1v1 confidentaly everytime?
wise valley
okay but scale it down to 1500 feral vs 1500 rogue
or 3k rogue vs 3k feral
properly utilizing 100% of their kit im just wondering
your thoughts
wise valley
hm
rigid linden
I could be factually wrong tho
wise valley
i mean
rigid linden
Just my opiniom
wise valley
i disagree personally
i thinkbelow a certain rating rogue just smoothbrains over feral
having decent feral exp and sub par rogue exp it was easy to kill feral as sin last i played mine
rigid linden
Ohh i misread
Ehhh
So if ita 1500 rogue vs 1500 feral
Yeah
Rogue wins for the most part
wise valley
@eager ingot i apologize for saying you were blatantly wrong about feral not beating sin 100%
but ur still 1500 shitter fuck u
wise valley
i even see 2k+ 2.2k+ ferals who cant duel well
but i think the oppposite for rogues tbh
rigid linden
Ok why i say that is 1500 rogue doesn't know how to cloak thorns
wise valley
i always see good rogues in duels who suck using team
rigid linden
And they just hit into thorns besr form
wise valley
1500 feral cant hit bear form
rigid linden
LOL
wise valley
bro u gotta realize 1500 feral puttin in work MASHING that shred button
clear pulsar
@vestal citrus every piece next tier has bis trait
So prepare for every destro having 3x flashpoint
But
None of them have masterful instincts
Or iron jaws
At all
None
Nada
Fucking
Yeah
I don't think I will
wise valley
yall ever spontaneously think about the MOP pvp vendors
rancid pebble
you mean when pvp gear was relevant
topaz drum
impassive visage or gemhide for pvp?
still magnet
@heavy lichen delete bear
tropic schooner
still magnet
<- pic of me when i demo a vendetta + combust go
heavy lichen
haha
heavy lichen
ggs brother
surreal heron
delete bear
heavy lichen
i found a bear for my alt dh at least
clear pulsar
Smh
still magnet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/376835067651031043/647710135489396737/unknown.png @vestal citrus u tryna get these paws
Of course
just add the shaman in
make that shit goosy level foul
tardy hare
abstract lark
What add-on do you guys use to track enemy offensive/defensive cooldowns in arena?
abstract lark
Thanks!
vestal rain
3rd [Grove Tending] + 1st [Lively Spirit] vs 1st [Rampant Growth] 2th [Waking Dream]?
vestal rain
What do you mean?
harsh jasper
Anyone using the maledict trinket in Arenas?
obtuse ice
me
rigid linden
All you guardians disgust me :(
rigid linden
Yeah quit that life real quick
LOL
Every1 dodges me
I end up queing some boring shit like mld
Just insta altf4
Gnite :D
obtuse ice
come back to feral gang
ripe sierra
Bear is superior 
still magnet
BEAR.EXE
ripe sierra
How do you do 2s as bear?
still magnet
i respec resto
fair pecan
So anyone here running Savage Roar? It feels pretty powerful. Tried it recently because of Soulscape's WPVP videos and I'm enjoying it a fair bit.
ripe sierra
I prefer incarn. Sr is just another thing to keep using energy and CP on
fair pecan
Incarn is a nice CD to use, for sure.
His reasoning is that in wpvp where you're playing hit and run, you might have a situation where you want to spend CP but don't have a target (e.g. You've had to disengage). So you can refresh that, get a free heal, etc.
clear pulsar
Bro I used to dislike new savage momentm
But lowering cd on wall as well is kinda lit
Can get wall like 40 seconds earlier
Much higher uptime on masterful instincts too
short portal
What trinkets are ferals running in arena primarily?
heavy lichen
my bear/dh team is 2k, prepare yourself @still magnet for a 40 min game of bear/dh/rsham mirror
still magnet
I will beat your ass
heavy lichen
slowly
wise valley
someone play minecraft with me
ripe ember
How aggressive should you be in 2s resto? Is CoF the way to go vs dps/healer. Trinket choices? Cyclo or compendium?
weary radish
I feel like I picked the wrong weapon as Feral for PVP
weary radish
You mean just grinding out M+?
clear pulsar
Yes, that is what "run waycrest" implies
@rigid linden you played with the Sivara polearm tho?
It's usually around 7% of my damage
Quite nice
But only has 150 crit
No mastery or versa
Super unforch
rigid linden
How does it get worse than s2 hesis Christ
obtuse ice
we pray
clear pulsar
Bro s4 is gonna be ass
Corruption, busted weapons
Destros have free 3x flashpoint from raid
But 0 masterful instincts
Or iron jaws
fringe charm
in pvp balance use to have a talent that increased ur starfall damage but u could only have 1 up at a time
does anyone remember what it was called?
rigid linden
Cant wait to get dogshit crit traits in ovp
west oasis
@ripe ember prob go cyclo though i heard something about spores being better (?)
how aggressive you should play? uhm
it depends on your comp
playing w/ surv/dk you can play really aggressive
obtuse ice
what trait are going to change
west oasis
but with like a lock or mage, you play pretty safe most of the time
and just heal and drink
go for clones when the caster is able to land a kill
clear pulsar
It just doubled starfall's duration, which I guess increased its damage per cast, but not the damage per second @fringe charm
@obtuse ice dont think any trait is changing for feral
Why?
obtuse ice
ooh
clear pulsar
It was called Celestial Downpour @fringe charm
obtuse ice
you meant we don't have any IJ or MI from new raid
ripe ember
thanks @west oasis playing with a warrior right now
who doesn't tend to use defensives and tunnels
west oasis
catweaving with warrior is pretty damn strong
your bleeds + his are going to rot them down pretty fast
and warrior should have enough peels if they focus you
i think being aggressive with warr has way more pros than cons now that i think about it
clear pulsar
Honestly even if you just throw your regular dots
And sit in cat form behind a pillar
Already good :P
And yeah, between war banner, duel, disarm, warr can help you stay alive thru catweaving for sure
ocean barn
Legit question. How do you pvp as guardian in 2s and 3s. Is our output enough to be able to just play the dampening game? I’m assuming you’d want another high burst dps class or is there a specific grouping.
still magnet
2’s are kind of bad. In 2’s you play it with a DH and you just have to kill them in 90s. You play it like a healer.
ocean barn
Oh gotcha.
still magnet
3’s you’re just a dampener. You match it with a war / dk / DH / monk and sit with your person being hit the full time and just peel them and make sure their healer doesn’t drink
It farms anything with a melee and loses to double caster
clear pulsar
Just play 2s with a rsham instead
still magnet
You play den mother + protector of the pack most games. Sometimes you’ll take off one of them if you’re splitting. Your typical third is demo roar or shapeshifter depending on what you’re playing against
I think you lose 2’s deep enough into dampening
clear pulsar
Rsham spams purge and throws out flame shock + lava bursts when they can/have to
You actually win a fair amount of games that way
And if you lose
At least you made everyone hate life
still magnet
That’d be some match
clear pulsar
Rsham pumps damage if they dont have to spam heal people or sit ghost wolf, which is only really a possible scenario with a guardian druid
still magnet
That makes a lot of sense
clear pulsar
Flame shocks ticking for 12k
Arent rshams the healers with highest dps logs in single target?
Pretty sure
Rshams can do more dps than disc even with busted schism + cyclo and crucible busted interaction
In pve anyway
rigid linden
🔫 🐻
echo creek
Yeah rsham is big dam if they can ignore healing
tropic schooner
thats kinda misleading tho
clear pulsar
Only if you didnt read the rest of the conversation
tropic schooner
I did
its irrelevant for pvp tho
beecause traits are nerfed
which is practically all of shamans dmg
tropic schooner
Basically outside logging Shaman does Not have highest dps in any content outside some insanly niche situations
clear pulsar
And I quote
which is only really a possible scenario with a guardian druid
wise valley
udnerwater glass mansion
clear pulsar
In a scenario where they can spam damage and purge
clear pulsar
Yeah but discs lose on mana, druids monks and palas cant spam purge
I mean what point are you trying to make?
wise valley
your small brazilian brain cant comprehend his german intelligence
tropic schooner
That your Point makes No sense
You talked about pve dmg when talking about purge pressure in PvP
clear pulsar
My only point was
That I see guardian with rsham in 2s
Instead of other healers
Then I was asking if it's the highest dps healer in pve
Which I went and checked
Like
I was just talking
It's a chat
You dont have to infer shit that isnt there from what I say
tropic schooner
All i Said was that Thing is missleading for people Reading or Not understanding that its Not a realistic Situation and thinking rshamans offensive pressure is dmg
vale knoll
is liberators might good in general pvp?
wise valley
@rigid linden bro i might be having a kid do you think i should abort it or sculpt a r1 feral from birth?
wise valley
hm
surreal heron
hmm
wise valley
bro im 100% scared as fuck right now
but you got a point
i could potentially hand raise a r1 famous streamer to support me
"study these twitch and youtube videos and use them to further your knowledge son"
@surreal heron this isnt trolling either
idiot
the past 6 hours have been the wildest roller coaster of emotions ive ever felt and we decided to not tell anyone IRL but im venting TO MY BOYS
my greatest fear in life is sharing my capri suns with some stupid idiot child who cant even break 1600 like @eager ingot
lol get fucked nerd
wary pier
Any good feral arena guides
clear pulsar
wary pier
for 3's
wise valley
bro
im aware
i mean im 27 and i make bank
but like
a kid
ew
gross
@wary pier if u need an arena guide
prolly not gonna help
just being a hunnid with u
wise valley
yeah
im also like
not 100% on this chick
we are both fucked up in our own ways
albeit small ways but still
should only have kids if ur 100% perfect with each other
only
clear pulsar
@still magnet please stop queueing into my fav streamers. I want to actually enjoy watching their games.
wise valley
cant talk shit on discord with glpyh and mach cus the baby threw up on my 100% down sheets again
still magnet
😦
still magnet
i am 100% sure
clear pulsar
You're the one playing it so
You know it
But between 3 kicks on short cd and grounding
Hard to think you cant spare the roar to help get burns
Save bash and incap for it
Idk
Whatever
clear pulsar
It's guardian gross comp
still magnet
and healer just runs away
still magnet
I pvp
still magnet
Absolutely not
clear pulsar
You cant say you pvp
wise valley
clear pulsar
When you q guardian dh rsham
clear pulsar
LOL
You and supatease also playing the same comp
Supa as resto looks big washed
Tbh
still magnet
I almost casted one of the online china cups
wise valley
hmmm
clear pulsar
Or was it guardian ww that he was queueing
still magnet
Dampen me daddy
clear pulsar
Cant remember
clear pulsar
Bro formy betrayed the movement
wise valley
furry daddy formrage gets me so wet in my trousers 
clear pulsar
Rerolled rogue
forest kite
are balance druids good in 2s?
wise valley
lmao
still magnet
LOL
clear pulsar
No @forest kite
clear pulsar
I mean you can get rating
wise valley
damn hal
forest kite
what
clear pulsar
It's also kinda frustrating cuz it's so easy to pillar
Resto is easiest rating in 2s, feral is ok, guardian better than feral
Resto just busted rn
forest kite
I dont play those specs
clear pulsar
It's better in 3s than 2s
forest kite
rbgs?
clear pulsar
And less frustrating
RBG is kinda dead in NA
I think it's better in EU
Boomie is good, but expect people to ask if you have a guardian spec for flag maps
Balance for 3s can do work with a good ele sham
forest kite
ok, I will try 3s
still magnet
i would highly recommend healing
clear pulsar
Hah
And boomie isnt
Ok
I found resto really engaging, idk, it's like playing the complete druid class
It's just disgusting cuz you feel and know in your heart that you're playing like ass, and you're still winning cuz it's so strong
But the gameplay feels really complete
You use your whole kit
Guardian is the opposite end of the spectrum
Also guardian players are on the spectrum fo sho
wise valley
resto played right in 2s/3s is very proactive
and engaging
yeah basicallt i ignored face's entire post but yeah its engaging
you use evbertything and can really improvise and pull shit out of your sleeve
forest kite
Why is assa so boring compared to feral?
vale knoll
bc your not a glowing kitty
clear pulsar
Cuz everything is instant and there is no buff to snapshot with your dots
He just lost to socks too
Murda threw
Haha
Wouldnt surprise me, how are you gonna trinket a fear vs RMP when you have a rsham in your team
And they still have combustion and bomb
It's been funny tho
Tettles gets spat on every game
And sent mail
still magnet
/spit
clear pulsar
You dont look like my daddy
still magnet
LOL
vale knoll
step daddy
tardy hare
Face's dad is #1 of the drugs cartel
copper acorn
you know guys the best class for the 10-19 pvp level? i want a twink
i dont mind if it is a healer dps or tank
rigid linden
isnt it hunter priest rogue mage
copper acorn
but it's good a druid?
rigid linden
resto/balance i think
forest kite
So what specs you guys think gonna get a hammer 8.3?
tiny oar
Expecting actual pvp balance changes HA
forest kite
I'm thinking they will buff lock more
plush bolt
What trinkets are best to run for boomkin, playing balance/rogue/healer? I have access to 445 of all the pve stuff
tiny oar
Probably lmao
clear pulsar
Maledict, badge, safeguard @plush bolt
plush bolt
Does it make a difference if my lure and shiver venom relic are 445 with socket, and my pvp ones are all 430/435?
clear pulsar
Some of the healing ones
Idk proc trinkets dont help you kill often
Especially if you're running boomie rogue you might want more controled damage
But shiver venom does ok damage
Can be good
And you can pop it for a little burst I guess
WHenever you want
plush bolt
Shiver Venom is off GCD activate damage. Crits pretty big in pve, forget if it's nerfed in pvp
clear pulsar
Lure is nerfed in pvp psure
tiny oar
Ye shit procs like once a game in 2s on my rdruid feelsbadman
plush bolt
I was thinking maledict/shiver venom but I don't know if not running safegaurd is too greedy
clear pulsar
The beautiful thing about
Well, anything
Is that you can swap your items
For different games
:)
plush bolt
That's true
Would it probably make more sense to run safegaurd vs. double melee, and something else against anything else?
clear pulsar
If the double melee train you
Yes
If not
No :)
Rogue mage will usually train you
Cuz you cant be polied
plush bolt
I usually play resto/melee/melee, I'll just have to play a bunch and see how the games typically go I guess
copper acorn
which one is better: hunter or rogue for pve
echo creek
ripe sierra
Should probably not ask that in the pvp channel 
obtuse ice
Rogue hammer
lime light
@clear pulsar are there any non jungle comps for feral rn
odd juniper
Kitty cleave (arms+feral) and fire mage+feral but idk name of it
But idk honestly if they're viable now
obtuse ice
fmp
clear pulsar
Everybody just playing jungle
I think fmp good
But nobody's gonna wanna play that
Imagine a mage wanting to play with a feral
obtuse ice
😰
clear pulsar
Icy-veins about feral
I'm gonna follow their guide now
It's the biggest piece of garbage I've read in a while
wise valley
is that a pvp guide
forest kite
icy veins was recommending lunar inspiration in 8.2.0
last i checked, and some stupid idiot feral was telling me how I suck for not using LI and following the guide with his 40% win rate and 6/8 H
clear pulsar
Yeah it still does
Which is odd cuz it has essence section, it mentions cyclone as well, which was the same patch that made lunar inspiration irrelevant, and in the rotation part it tells you to brutal slash til 5 cp with bloodtalons, which is just stupid
edgy oxide
start applying
fair enough
i appreciate that
is that glyph the famous guide writer?!
when you can't do, teach
isn't that the saying?
already have the clickbait set up
perfect
untold sierra
hey guys, any updated feral guides ? I hit 1500 tonight and it was like a brick wall. I know I am trash but want to read up some
wise valley
guide in pins is still somewhat relevant
@untold sierra
1500 is more so about making sure your mechanics/game knowledge are solid
once you master them you could hit 2k with a LI pve build and shit gear
winged quartz
Anybody down to get my rogue or feral to 19or 2k.
lime tree
clear pulsar
Basically
If both of you have great gear
It can work to 2100
But it'll be all on you
Or you could just go resto
And ride dh rdru to 2400
For free
obtuse ice
And get a dk instead of feral
exotic wolf
stray sigil
i kinda wish iron jaw worked like pred swiftness
feelsbadman
no procs for 2mins straight is a mood
tiny oasis
Learning resto after playing disc for years
Am I supposed to just kite it out and be cc bot
Or should I be trying to help dps
tardy hare
both
west oasis
@exotic wolf still good ye
gusty temple
@west oasis win me a game of 3s pls
west oasis
not subbed atm :p
clear pulsar
Always
Under the circumstance that you play boomie or feral
Guardian will be an upgrade
Also, with melees
Arms, ww, dh
And prob an rsham
sharp wasp
@clear pulsarSo in 2s they are viable or boomie?
clear pulsar
I've seen more than a handful of guardians at duelist
With rsham
In 2s
No boomies
Boomie in 2s can probably win games but you lose your sanity in the process
sharp wasp
Damn my boomie does well in bgs I feel