#Unbalanced/Unavoidable Data/No actual loyalty- Pc biased

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No, just no. All of the numbers are available to the development team. Damage output for every weapon, limb and melee, truly obvious what’s meta and what’s not. EQUAL THINGS OUT, give players proper options and counters. It’s unbelievable this rock paper scissors Jesus game ya’ll got going. With readily available data after a few weeks, it’s pure insanity for us to believe this current meta is the way. NUMBERS/STATISTICS DO NOT LIE, spreadsheet it out, whiteboard, chalkboard whatever. X out outliers, release a limb counters list, adjust damage, activation timing, animations. “60 limb variations”? And we are getting tripped up before 20

Crossplay disabling is a must when AA in the hands of a good console player is basically Cronus and near perfect tracking with MnK pc players with their high dpi’s is basically aimbot. Console players literally cannot keep up without AA and people want to keep decreasing it further, meanwhile MnK players see no disadvantage just a wider gap and proof of bias with their 90 - 240 frames vs consoles max 90 frames if uncapped 60 frames if capped. Leave this one for us to work out until version 2.0 in isolation. Console vs console - Pc vs pc.

With no proper loyalty to your casual player and by only peddling to the front/high skilled players why would a new player keep playing? They will only play for a couple weeks/months until the awe aspect goes away, then take several weeks/months off to login in for a weekend to then leave again. When the full game is out and competing with so many other future game titles for a persons time, it will be the biggest lie ever told to say the Otg player base is “strong”. Once players become disillusioned by the cheaters/pubstompers/bots/constant unbalanced meta and no ranked battle royal mode Off The Grid as a “game” will be done.

Truly maddening, no regurgitated mission statement or “we hear you, we are doing everything we can” will be accepted because it’s just not true. We are not all sheep

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pure cave
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@cyan arrow 💯 I can't get any of my hundreds of console gamer friends to play this game... Hundreds... If this game dies it's because they aren't listening to people like you who know the actual issues with this game. I started playing when bounce bombers came out and were completely broken. I kept telling myself, "they will balance the game." I was naive. They are purposely unbalancing things to drive sales. This game is basically a crypto scam with extra steps. Smh

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# pure cave <@604653786807402496> 💯 I can't get any of my hundreds of console gamer friends...

Help me understand keeping in mind the game hasn't officially released yet and is in a unfinished, "early access" state. With that said, how were "Bounce Bombers" completely broken when they were first released? Do you mean you didn't like certain aspects? Also how are they purposely unbalancing things to drive sales of a free game? If you say the battle pass that's completely optional and nothing they do right now is making anyone pay for that or any of it's content. Nothing release has created a pay to win environment. And last how is this basically a "Crypto Scam" with "extra steps"? Explain because I really would like to know.

IMO This build has always been the testing ground, at least until the final build is released. The only real issue is the streamers being the main source of advertisement and they are influencing changes to the game then leaving. When they leave so does their "cult" followers. If this keeps up it will be the COD: Warzone debacle all over again and my kill this small developer before they get their start.

And please be detailed in your response because I want the devs to see it and be able to use your valuable feedback.

Thank you for your time.

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I personally didn’t find the bounce bombers to be that bad on release but in this current meta for high kill games it’s practically mandatory. In the hands of a sweat pair them with another AOE limb… 3 bomb spam and you are done in CQ(close quarters). An affect of streamers and competitive players recommending a change and then leaving the game because the change didn’t necessarily make things any better for them is meta unbalances (like AA decrease or bomb count increase). Casual gamers are then stuck trying to adapt to said changes but are ultimately left behind because the streamers/“” who still play are forever two steps head in the meta causing casuals to lose interest and leave.. the effect. Both are avoidable through proper data interpretation.

Devs have the data and could be more transparent but they aren’t. They could release a limb list so we could see a full list of limbs and decode what would counter what but no. They could acknowledge the trend in certain limb usage via the data, they don’t.. which, nope I’m not having. This last update was truly a slap in the face to all the people who play for fun and the ones who pay attention

IMO It’s coming down to crossplay, sales of gunz coin, the amount of trades on opensea, the streamers/“” not having a place to take their shenanigans and then the battle pass.

Salaries are being covered by a percentage of revenue created from the monthly battle pass. So it behooves Gunzilla to have an appealing battle pass for their unbalanced pc focused game, which is unreal. I’m not completely there yet to say scam but as a console player i’m highly disappointed/dissatisfied that my assets are not available to be traded and may not ever be available to be traded on opensea/metamask or any platform. So at least keep my experience enjoyable but no.
Having the money to get the gunz to buy that higher ROF gun isn’t helping and all the 3 stacking pub stompers who stay locked in every match with “meta” gear does not help either

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I say Pc focused because PC players are truly reaping all the benefits. Honestly who is Off The Grid really for? The causal sometimes serious console player or the Pc streamer who wants to dominate and also make money through trading. Console players cannot trade their assets through opensea/metamask, console players get second priority on equipment like the Solona vulture and debatably console players are the first to feel meta unbalances.

Honestly I’m getting the “console players should be happy they get to play at all” feel and it’s not right

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Unbalanced/Unavoidable Data/No actual loyalty

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Get rid of forced crossplay!

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Yes

lament wedge
# cyan arrow Yes

We’ve been struggling with the project team for over a year and a half, and in the end they took away solos and optimization from us and gave us crossplay instead 😂

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Unbalanced/Unavoidable Data/No actual loyalty- pay attention to the Data!

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Unbalanced/Unavoidable Data/No actual loyalty- Pc biased

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I agree with everything you say, Particularly crossplay.
Another aspect is shaders, How can things be balanced, when PC can just play with their settings and be able to see so much more of the game?
Leaderboards should not be cross play, lobbies should not be cross play, and most definitely competitions should not be cross play, especially when there are cash prizes involved.

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Didn’t even know about the shaders, that’s interesting and unfortunate

pure cave
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Deleting my messages in here?! Wow. Bye losers

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WARN ME ALL YOU WANT bye

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Suuper weird for deleting comments if no obscene language was used or if the comment wasn’t overly offensive.

I’ll post again if things get removed, people who stumble onto the post need the whole picture and you can’t get that by removing comments

sour juniper
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Keep it on topic please, any more personal attacks and the thread will be closed.

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Try to keep it on topic.
Do not keep re-posting the same thing.

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Just to reiterate, aim assist does not play the game for you. The only way for devs to reel in AA is to have console against console only and patch it down bit by bit to a respectable level. Only by correctly interpreting the data and listening to the console players will AA be “fixed”/balanced. Then turn crossplay back and smooth it over a couple more times.

I personally have mine turned down already, i agree it should be turned down HOWEVER PC players should have NO SAY IN HOW FAR ITS TURNED DOWN FOR CONSOLE PLAYERS on the backend because they don’t use it as much/don’t need it(apparently).. the flight mechanic makes it rather difficult to say what is/isn’t a respectable AA percentage. No other game flys like OTG, so we have to do this through trial and error

Limb balances have been happening to weird limbs with no effective counter balancing. If you think the current meta is balanced you are delusional and apart of the problem. “Meta’s” are supposed to be what is popular/effective not what you MUST run in order to be successful. I have over 3 thousand hours in this game (1200 after they reset play time) I understand the ins and outs enough to where I don’t need to play meta but a new player pfffft, they need to play meta in order to survive.

That’s dumb and wholly limits the experience for the player, why the hell would they try a different limb/gun if their survivability/win depends on their current meta build?

I’m just saying we shouldn’t be fighting amongst ourselves when the data doesn’t lie and it’s clear what’s wrong and how to fix it.

Listen to us and let us properly test the game..

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I cleaned up some more 👍
The request to keep it on topic was to all of chat, not just you.

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deleting feedback/suggestion comments is so cringe man dont do that.

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When they mostly contains personal attacks, they will be deleted.

covert bloom
# sour juniper When they mostly contains personal attacks, they will be deleted.

but its fun and teh culture? no one was swearing or calling someone trans
pretty sure team has enough feedback on AA by now.
if you dont

AA too strong (mostly when flying)
Console players dont want to learn to aim
PC players crying about strong AA
Console players crying about PC players even though they got aimbot

thats where we are at.

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That’s part of where we are at not all in its entirety.

Part 1: Both sides are trying to figure out what is a healthy medium for AA for each other while spiteful players interject with vitriol that stirs the pot and de-rails the process.

Part 2: Data collection wise, we are at the point of platform seclusion, where both sides need to dial it in themselves against one another to figure out what is a respectable AA figure to go up against. Then we come together after and present the findings, tweaking it further if needed.

TBH Part 2 is the hardest part because we do not have enough players to get a good baseline. There are either good players or bad players if we use good player figures AA will go way down, if we use bad player figures AA will need to increase soo it’s looking like a stalemate until the 4th wave of players comes through 🤞🏼

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# bleak temple This is a wild statement if you think the meta is skewed towards PC, middle of t...

Pc players are reaping all the monetary benefits nothing really to do with gameplay but that’s on the fence since a lot PC players are speaking for console players. It’s only a matter of time before the dev team makes changes to console because of a PC players suggestion, if it hasn’t already happened.

True BBs have always been garbage but in this current meta they are annoying garbage and disabling crossplay momentarily will fix AA, not BBs. There are no proper counters because the counters have counters which can’t be countered currently and that’s nuts.

BBs countered by paralyzer or superior movement

Paralyzer countered by sludge shot from the air or far away

Then sludged player gets BBd and paralyzed to death

Not me because I can get out and won’t be in that situation to begin with but new players against even mid players, are just donzo.

TLDR Pc players are making all the monies, console players are playing a video game. Without proper data interpretation/counter construction BBs will stay broken and crossplay cannot fix that

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I dunno bro, games skewed massively in of controller/console

Sucks theres no mainet for you guys yet.

Also just FYI no one is making much money yet haha

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Well yeah. Fs AA is heavy for console but that’s because casuals are getting stomped by three stacked “wolves” and are coming from the COD meat grinder.

Fr sucks but let us have the opportunity to make money is all I’m saying. $3 is better than nothing

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Yeah

I think a lot of issues just go away if the player based 10x'd quickly, get more and more players of the same skill in the same games

I play a lot of solo's but even when I am in a 3 stack I refused to jump on some poor dude its terrible

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I like 1v1's 1v2's, not good enough for 1v3's haha

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Na bro the issues won’t go away like that. They’ll get waaay worse and would kill the population.

The players wouldn’t stick around long enough to even be matched correctly if they keep getting crushed before getting a chance.

I do the same, I’ll fly away and go kill some bots or go catch Merc/Ryze slipping it’s actually ridiculous by the developers to not have introduced something to curb this prey on the weak and meek behavior

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If the player base 10x's then SBMM mean you dont get crushed by 3 stacks as their in a different lobby

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Not everyone can afford a top tier pc to just over power every console player here i fight to hit 100 fps on pc Dailey the pc optimization sucks and most of the time when I get close to fight someone my fps drops to 13 to 40 which makes the game unplayable and far as the marketplace upperhand nobody in us can sell anything thing on open sea pc or not and there just a select few skin sets that console done have hints pc was playing the game with propass that was payed for months before console got the game

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# glad fjord Not everyone can afford a top tier pc to just over power every console player he...

Wrd there are some PC players that are struggling to maintain steady frames, there are videos and discussions on how to improve your settings a bit tho. For the most part pc players can maintain higher frames than console players mid gunfight, giving them an advantage. I checked on my Ps5 pro I can hit 75-90 frames if I uncap and like your fps my fps drops hard when fighting. Especially against skilled players who know how to move but there is nothing I can do. I can’t upgrade my console, can’t change settings for smoother gameplay can only get a better monitor and even that will only do so much.

There are Over the counter deals happening all the time on PC, whether Gunzilla acknowledges it or not but I’ve seen it. A few dollars is a few dollars and dollars add up. Especially with pioneer gear and or retro/legacy gear that select few have. I haven’t seen those traded but doesn’t mean there aren’t trades like that happening.

Most PC players being on main net is the upperhand. Marketplace wise their assets are actually worth something as opposed to testnet assets which are worth nothing until they are given an actual address/public mint number.

I’m not trying to be mean or one sided this is all just what the data is showing/has shown.

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Mainnet or test net console and pc won't be able to trade and console is rolling out on mainnet right now only eu I've seen sony was the whole hold up with console going and I've changed all my files like the v8deo I've watched the optimization they used for this gsme Is solely on the cpu which I causing the hole issue I've not hit over 120 steadily since June I csnt even get 110 right now my opinion that would make a difference with people having the upper hand is to take away the option to choose servers and everyone ques in randomly like cod and other games then the lobbies will have a better chance of not being stacked by one giant clan the cronus is killing the player base more than anything but the way it looks a big portion would leave if they banned it

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# glad fjord Mainnet or test net console and pc won't be able to trade and console is rolling...

If you’re saying a person cannot trade between PC and console then yes you are right. If you are saying PC and console players won’t be able trade to online to Opensea, Metamask and other NFT platforms ever then Off The Grid’s whole premise is a sham and they should come out with an official statement saying their blockchain game is just for looks. Yuh, Sony and Xbox are holding out because they want a piece of the pie so I expect soon console players will have to pay for PlayStation plus and Xbox players will have to pay for Microsoft online in order to play Off The Grid and or Trade in Off The Grid. Either way the player is gunna take a huge hit somehow, i would love to be mistaken here but…

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(I don’t play Xbox so I don’t know what their pay to play servers are actually called, apologies)

At this point we are becoming an acceptable loss. With every update there are a few PC players who come out and say they are losing frames, who knows how many others are experiencing the same but aren’t saying anything so Gunzilla is deeming it an acceptable loss and is moving forward regardless. Maybe they revisit the issue but most likely they won’t as the monies are continuing to roll in either way and the player base is too small for a good baseline anyway.

A rotating server selection would be choice and fun but again with a small player base you would still run into sweaty clans and Cronus users. Also people would immediately complain about the loss of server choice but hey maybe that could be a limited time mode.
High ping, epic packet loss, survive and win lol

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The optimization mainly on the cpu is what's killing it vs optimize it to the gpu which would even push console to 120 fps i would say my main issue is when I go to fight people my frames drop to 20 or below but prior to and after I run 90 to 100 I think things will be fix or get better I hope as in trial and error open beta

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But only thing with mainnet is coin csn be purchased cheaper usa doesn't have access to open sea like Europe and only select few pc from epic is on mainnet steam is not untilll now from the way I take it pc and console in Europe is all going or gone to main net and can use open sea

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# glad fjord But only thing with mainnet is coin csn be purchased cheaper usa doesn't have ac...

Slowly but surely USA should get some accounts transitioning to mainnet. I peeped that too, coin cheaper for Europe which is gradually tanking the market (testnet market) along with throwaway hex’s that offer no return.

I haven’t been paying much attention to the market these days because again I’m on testnet so it does nothing for me to look over the fence and shout/judge. However I can note the failings and hopefully point out better options

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Everything low then go to GzGameUserSettings.json save it and right click the game and go to properties and click read only save

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@cyan arrow main issue rn above all else is the lack of regular updates. We go two updates recently that gave huge hits to the frame rate and frame stability. These should have been fixed within a week. Balance changes should roll out on a weekly basis. But right now, the situation is that we have an under optimised game and a trashed meta. We need regular balance changes that do more than just tweak one weapon.

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Wtf i just read in this shot

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you actually have a few valid points .. but then .. what in the actual hell did I read 💀

"MnK PC players with their dpi's is basically aimbot."

This is just proof that you have zero clue how mice work as well as how difficult it actually is to aim with one with zero assist like how controllers have. You also have no clue how MnK relies on high frame rates when with controllers it actually doesn't even matter that much. You need nearly double the frames for MnK for it to feel as smooth as a controller. 120fps for MnK would feel like 60 fps on controller. 240fps for MnK would feel like 120fps on controller. Anything above 90fps on controller is honestly hardly recognizable. MnK players HAVE to purchase expensive setups over $1.5k to actually have decent frames. If you have a setup worth $500, you probably get 40 fps in this game and damn that becomes near impossible to aim with a mouse.

Until you have experienced every side of what you're talking about, as well as researched extensively in this topic, don't make insane assumptions when you really have no clue what you're talking about lol.

Aim assist should obviously be kept in. It needs to be decreased to around 35% PC and 40% Console though.

The meta for being a top gamer in this is PC Controller > Console Controller > MnK (Honestly controllers on both platforms are kind of equal). MnK has been in last ever since they added in 60% AA into the game.

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# sullen python you actually have a few valid points .. but then .. what in the actual hell did ...

Yuh I dont know how Mnk work in this game just to stroke your ego
I know computers, got degrees in the field and I know PC players like to use console controllers on their PC’s. Really shows your character when you come into my thread to throw shade and scrutinize my feedback with mockery and no constructive criticism, Just honing in on PC/controller AA like it was the end all be all of my post when I said a lot of other things.

I mentioned actually disabling crossplay so each camp (Console - PC) could work on AA on their own to get more data then bring them together to fine tune it that’s it. I really don’t care about PC Mnk and stop mansplanning PC quirks. Don’t care that ya’ll have to get expensive rigs for the game to be smooth/playable, that’s your problem. When ya’ll get more frames per second it makes ya’ll faster though and then it becomes my problem. It’s hardly recognizable to you the player but to the opposing player it’s insane.

Higher frame rates = less render time and faster responsiveness.

Higher DPI’s = further cursor movement/faster cursor movement with less hand movement needed.

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# sick basin <@604653786807402496> main issue rn above all else is the lack of regular update...

Yes, proper balances and data interpretation to make well thought out balances was the TLDR of my first paragraph.

You are right to say with the addition of updates at regular intervals the process would smoother and more manageable. However to say

“we need to maintain the pipes regularly”

doesn’t really help when we are still

“putting the pieces of the pipes together to be maintained”

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# supple cobalt What?

Just to keep an eye out for personal attacks, honestly sick of giving feedback only to be attacked with no constructive criticism just mockery and negativity

sullen python
# cyan arrow Yuh I dont know how Mnk work in this game just to stroke your ego I know compute...

I didnt even throw shade at you? You just don't know both sides like some actually do.

Yes, higher DPI means faster curser movement. But that sacrifices accuracy and precision. you can't always just "hold still" or "slowly move down to control recoil", you will easily miss if you have high DPI and high in game sens.

Also, mansplaining? 💀 Is this 2020?

I'm providing facts as well as my experience as being both a console and PC gamer. I've tried controller as well as MnK. I've trained my aim intensively on MnK and I can tell you, it is not that easy to aim on MnK as it is on controller in this game because of the aim assist.

sullen python
# supple cobalt What?

he thinks for some reason that I'm attacking him .. I'm doing nothing of the sort other than providing information that he needs to hear but doesn't understand.

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You can have high dpi with low in game sensitivity which actually allows for more precise aim but again what did I get wrong?

sullen python
# cyan arrow Wrong about what exactly? What was your take away?

Ah, if you read, I was talking about mouse and keyboard.

You have claimed that high DPI mouse and keyboard players have basically aim bot. I have told you that is not the case. Instead, having high DPI makes everything less accurate as well as less precise. It makes it very difficult to aim.

You have also stated that mouse and keyboard players should cap their frames from 90-120 FPS. I told you that mouse and keyboard players practically need double the frames to feel as smooth as controllers do.

The reason for this is that mice use raw input. It's raw and instant.

Controllers are different, they're analog sticks. The stick movement is already smoothed/interpolated. Aim assist will also cover the micro jitters and minor input lag as well. Especially when the Aim Assist is 60% for rotational. The game practically aims for you. Higher frames are not needed unlike on mouse and keyboard.

sullen python
# cyan arrow You can have high dpi with low in game sensitivity which actually allows for mor...

Well yes, obviously, but high DPI doesn't give any aim assist or any aim bot.

Most pro players use a DPI of 800-1600. I use 1600. There's zero need to go any higher. This also affects your regular mouse curser outside of the game. The only good thing about high DPI is by potentially maxing out your polling rate on your mouse. Yet, even then, that is unnecessary to do in a game like this.

I'm very sorry that you can't understand this. It deeply saddens me. Since you do not and refuse to understand what I'm saying through my experience and knowledge in multiple competitive games, different inputs, and different platforms I will leave this conversation 🙂

Have a good day! ❤️

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# sullen python Ah, if you read, I was talking about mouse and keyboard. You have claimed that ...

Nope didn’t say/mean Pc players should have their frames capped just that it’s unfair, that Console players must have theirs capped for it to run smoother, my English isn’t the best so I’ll correct that

Now a cap for PC would be ideal but it’s understandable that PC players need ridiculously high frames to even play.

Controllers can set to linear input, there are also controllers out there that make sure you are as close to raw input as possible before even getting into a game.

The aim assist does not aim for you are being over dramatic it does take effort. Less effort then “normal” but what is normal when you are trying to shoot a flying jet pack man out of the air.

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# sullen python Well yes, obviously, but high DPI doesn't give any aim assist or any aim bot. M...

Said basically aimbot and never said it added towards aim assist. Before AA even kicks in a high dpi and low game sensitivity will help in over all precise aiming in game and the assumption that no one else uses higher Dpi is unrealistic. I’ll use more direct wording to prevent future misconceptions.

Your sarcasm, elitism, grammar checks and overexaggeration to the points were most unwelcomed.

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idk what you mean by pipes lol

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The limb damage/cooldown/activation times are the “pipes” the balancing is the “maintenance to the pipes” in that analogy

sick basin
# cyan arrow Said basically aimbot and never said it added towards aim assist. Before AA even...

this isn't actually true btw bro. I would look into how this works 👀. Precise aiming is a product of your mouse control not your DPI. While seli isn't exactly on the mark with DPI helping your polling or rather he didn't explain it perfectly. DPI effects how smooth your movements are its a measurement of how many units to move the cursor per Inch. The higher polling rate helps with latency, not much else. The difference between 800 dpi and 1600 isn't too noticeable to the average player, but pros see it so they tend to go for 1600.

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It’s just aggravating that out of everything I’m stuck discussing AA and Mouse and keyboard in a topic that isn’t about just that

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I don't think I've once called you a bad name before or tried to be rude to you, but I guess we perceive things in different ways.

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Well to each their own 🙂

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# cyan arrow You started off by saying “.. what in the hell did I read 💀” then went in to sa...

Well I wasn't sarcastic. I was genuinely wondering "What in the hell did I read 💀" because it made no sense to me.

Then I said you had zero clue how mice work. I was partially correct. You have knowledge in the technical field, but not in the gaming field. Then I said you have no clue why MnK relies on high frames. Which again, is kind of true if you've never played or experienced with MnK competitively since you apparently thought that high DPI is basically aim bot. So, yeah in that particular side of things, you truly didn't know what you were talking about 🙂

Wasn't being rude or sarcastic, I was calling you out on things that made no sense and weren't true since you lack experience on that side of things.

I'm sorry you took it the wrong way tho. No need to be rude to me and call me names, that's uncalled for.

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# sullen python Well I wasn't sarcastic. I was genuinely wondering "What in the hell did I read...

Fine not sarcastic just rude. You didn’t have to read it, you didn’t have to rudely engage. You were totally incorrect as I have a degree in computer engineering and know very well how mice work and knowledge in the technical field but not the gaming field is splitting hairs truly.

The Aim bot phrase was used anecdotally didn’t mean literal aim bot.
I lack pro competitive gaming experience that doesn’t mean I do not understand computers or how they work. Lacking pro gaming experience is not the same as not lacking any gaming experience.

Your belittlement was uncalled for and your passive, backhanded apology is not accepted for very good reasons. Done engaging such madness

sullen python
# cyan arrow Fine not sarcastic just rude. You didn’t have to read it, you didn’t have to rud...

So, what I said was correct. I told you that I was partially incorrect. You have knowledge in the technical field, but not the gaming field.

Am I missing something here? Anyways, I hope you find it in your heart to forgive me 🙂 I don't enjoy conflict nor do I being rude. Didn't think I even was rude at first until you were rude to me. You don't have to apologize, I've already forgiven you. There's no need for pointless conflict. If that's all you'd like to discuss, then please don't call me any more names and be rude to me for no reason.. and have a great day! ❤️

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The bottom line is: - AA is way too strong. PC controller is on top atm, mnk down in the bottom. @sour juniper can you please give us some info when will AA finally be addressed. This is going on for way too long.