#The Promised Exclusivity (The Change of the battle pass terms)

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willow vigil
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In this thread, I want to raise concerns and get some answers about the silent change to the exclusivity terms for Battle Pass items in Off The Grid.

From the beginning, people were told that Battle Pass items and PRO Pack items were truly exclusive and would never drop again. Many invested in these items based on that promise, believing they were getting rare and limited assets.

Later, it was also stated that Retro and Legacy items would never be minted again, further reinforcing the idea that these were one-time-only drops with permanent scarcity.

Now, without any announcement or notice to the community, the terms have quietly changed. The new version says:

"Battle Pass Exclusive items can only be gained as Battle Pass Rewards and will not drop from regular HEXes. This exclusivity lasts for at least 90 days after the corresponding Battle Pass is over."

This means exclusivity is now temporary (90 days) instead of permanent — a major shift that changes the perceived value of those items.

The biggest issue is the lack of transparency.
These changes were made silently:

– Battle Pass items are dropping from HEXes
– Steam users have received previously exclusive items
– Retro, Legacy, and Convict sets are appearing again

Yet the community wasn’t informed.

Even now, if you check the Subscription Terms page (last updated March 4, 2025), it still says:

"Monthly Pro Pack: Each month, receive an exclusive OTG Pro Pack containing exclusive outfits, weapons and accessories."

"Battle Pass Access: Gain access to the current and future Battle Passes for Off the Grid while your subscription is active. Loyalty rewards get unlocked for every continuous subscriber from the second uninterrupted subscribed month."

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No mention of the 90-day clause. No explanation whether the new rule applies only to new Battle Pass items or also to old ones. The word “exclusive” is still used, despite the changed reality.

So the questions are:

– Will this 90-day rule apply retroactively to old Battle Pass items?
– Is it legally and ethically acceptable to change terms after people already bought in?
– Can players still trust the word “exclusive” in this ecosystem?

Many couldn’t afford Closed Beta sets like Pioneer, Prankster, or Anarchist — so they invested into Battle Pass items, Convict, or Retro/Legacy sets believing they had lasting value.

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These are some of the affected items:
Enforcer, Doomed Zero, Tagger, Templar, Kiiro Shinobi, Cybergoth, Mad Biker, Combat Maniac, Pacifist, Raverunner, Combat DJ, Cleanup Crew, Chemtech, Hopper Pilot, Red Ant, Anti-Cheat, Drone Operator, Zero Chill, Convict, Legacy, Retro, Loyalty items, event items

Can someone from the team please clarify:

– What is still truly exclusive?
– What’s not?
– And going forward, can players trust these terms?

This needs clarity — the sooner the better.

Some proofs:
Current subscription terms: https://gameoffthegrid.com/otg-pro-subscription-terms/

Convict item decoded: txn 0x3416b3774c8b98082f99ccafea527ea0309d0386c771ce1ecf40068dd866e144
Legacy/retro item decoded: txn 0x52e0218c5cd63342929db3e877731998ef00df45345182f257ec7f836129ec6b
txn 0xf94c0afb96520831dfda9ac1045b9579df2dab1d194a45a984b6060aefc6012d

rigid swallow
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To go back on community expectations formed by promises, is to betray the community

orchid parcel
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Yes this is something that needs addressed. The radio silence regrading this is very very concerning.

rigid swallow
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lemme just pop that first

gusty tree
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👍

rigid swallow
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Adding a date for when they told us to expect any explanation

willow vigil
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The Promised Exclusivity (The Change of the battle pass terms)

tender prairie
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It doesnt make sense to me from the game dev perspective either, must be some kind of psychological opp or test of the community

wintry hemlock
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Yes, an attention test. Just like with the music for Combat DJ. After switching to Mainnet, it is no longer decoded from hex.

obsidian kraken
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its really getting out of hand

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Literally no point of grinding battle pass. THe only valuable thing seems to be coming from otg pro. Do they want a game where people just login monthly to receive otg pro items and they not gonna play?

willow vigil
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Subscribers should have notified about this change, it's beyond the significant level

**It's like **

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Limited Ferrari produced again
Nike "never again" sneakers re-released
Vaulted Fortnite skins return
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CS:GO Howl re-added to drops

obsidian kraken
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Literally exclusivity of some skins is what made csgo special

grave edge
willow vigil
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In my opinion, the best solution would be to leave already released items untouched and apply the new terms only to future releases

wintry hemlock
obsidian kraken
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I think a couple months ago i dropped enforcer m4 from hex and was like what the hell

wintry hemlock
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not exc

obsidian kraken
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I thought i have a bit special item

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I really want to know the reason of this change actually

wintry hemlock
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Maybe items that don't have a yellow square and the word “Exclusive” will expire in 90 days. Then it would be fair. Some items don't expire, while others do.

obsidian kraken
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Or you are proposing this "ribbon"

willow vigil
obsidian kraken
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I mean i get that steam and console players could not get all items cuz copy of the game didnt exist for those platforms but rerelasing those items seems stupid imo

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Even fortnite had platform exclusive skins. They didnt bring back old items as they stated they not gonna come back

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Very weird to me

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So probably now we have another months of speculating:

  • most of people gonna sell their items cuz with current "exclusivity" its gonna drop value in time
  • some people gonna buy those item from those; counting on reverting changes and making items valuable again
    Who's gonna win?
jovial kindle
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This game has very poor organization. I don't understand why the team commits to deadlines — I’ve never seen them meet even one. Not even Vlad, who talks the most, ever follows through with anything. Everything ends up getting delayed, or they make changes on their own without notifying anyone, which is the worst part. We haven’t received any response on this issue, and it’s been over a week now. Same with the VASP license — it was supposed to be finalized months ago, and now we have no news at all.

idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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Or u saying it was in battle pass and since beginning in hexes at the same time?

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If thats true then its wild. Some items from bp were meant to be exclusive, some are not. Now all of them. WTF

idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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Thats messed up

idle crescent
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I'm thinking the community would be cool if they kept the ones before the revised version of the policy exclusive

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Which would mean all sets before March 2025

obsidian kraken
idle crescent
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But convict wasn't meant to be given when they did it so it will be released on other platforms now will it go to epic again I'm not sure

obsidian kraken
idle crescent
hazy loom
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Yeah if they go through with these changes they've been making, they'd be doing amazing at absolutely destroying the Web3 side of the community

obsidian kraken
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I just think we dont need this whole web3 stuff at all. Just give everyone all content and thats all. Isnt that the point of those changes?

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Eveything worthless soon so..

hazy loom
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they've already killed the competitive side, and are also not doing good at keeping casual players because casuals keep going against sweats (ranked would fix this). It looks like it's time for the Web3 side now.

obsidian kraken
idle crescent
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The statement about convict came like last October November not too long after it released so in my opinion of course the pc community assumed convict was exclusive to them only but hey it it's what it is hell most people on opensea selling items for little to nothing unless it's pioneers gear or gold ltd iems so I don't see the bit fuss overall

hazy loom
obsidian kraken
idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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So it had to be some hidden info i guess. I need .onion link for announcments

idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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So it was public discussion many times without serious and public answer for couple months

obsidian kraken
vast pendant
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Making such changes silently without any announcment and also breaking what was once promised is extremely dissappointing and breaks trust with the community.

idle crescent
# obsidian kraken So it was public discussion many times without serious and public answer for cou...

There are a couple of things that will be re release because it was given before hand convicts, OpenSea, neo Tokyo to name a couple so it’s they game am I agreeing with it nah but I feel the move hurt the market for a lot of players that put a lot in to they inventory and to pass em out in hexes is wild but as long as drop rates stay ridiculously low I think that will handle its self shouldn’t be there but the damage is done and I don’t see them retracting it

obsidian kraken
idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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Im not into opensea and neotokyo. Is it the same case as zippermouth mask and convict set?

idle crescent
obsidian kraken
idle crescent
obsidian kraken
umbral nexus
idle crescent
obsidian kraken
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I mean last time i saw gunzilla team answer to community was when one guy sold tacoma pioneer for "pennies" and cried on twitter for 2 days

umbral nexus
obsidian kraken
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Why we even write feedback if we have to "let it go"?

idle crescent
umbral nexus
obsidian kraken
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Our messages dont have power here and nobody cares, in Twitter they can go out the bubble

umbral nexus
idle crescent
# umbral nexus Bro Gunzilla has this wierd take it or leave it approach

I get what I get play when I can and leave the rest of it alone it’s a game like any other with a few different elements that certain players are attracted to it not dead players are not being cheated it’s a early access build so take it for what it’s worth if anything I’m sure you should be able to re coupe the initial investment so if it’s not for you I’m sure you’ll figure it out 🤷🏿‍♂️not you directly but I think you know where I’m coming from fam

umbral nexus
# idle crescent I get what I get play when I can and leave the rest of it alone it’s a game like...

I get it. I get the game is early access. I will never be able to re coupe the time i put in. Transparency is important and there isn't much atm. Lucky u can still play...we lost a server so now its take +/-200 ping or leave it. People want answers instead get an update with more promises and a paragraph long disclaimer dedicated to the token...take that or leave it. Playerbase is too small for a 'take it or leave it' approach.

idle crescent
umbral nexus
idle crescent
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And can’t you all kyc?

umbral nexus
real sedge
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They need a “Retired” Tag on skins/weapons that’s guaranteed to be done reprinting. That would literally solve it all.

rigid swallow
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YESSS

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PLAYER1 ON A ROLL

eager coral
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This “exclusivity” means absolutely nothing in the current form, so it’s perplexing why was it promised in the first place.

Also, how come a single Retro/Legacy would be reintroduced when they were “unfortunate byproduct” / “we would ideally remove them entirely”. They were first to be locked down, now coming back o.O

rigid swallow
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Lol, Cazaris saying he would prefer to remove them from game, was one of the earlier convos, like a year old, theres been at least 3 different convos since then that all point to a reskin to maintain its heritage in OTG as the first ever weapons on Teardrop

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but lets just ignore them and remember the outdated one huh?

eager coral
rigid swallow
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agreed

hard onyx
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They do say they reserve the right to make any changes since the game is still in beta and may change once the game is fully released. Sadly, that’s all any company has got to say to go back on their word

obsidian kraken
rigid swallow
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is that this applies to Prankster and Pioneer, they were #1 and #2 of Battlepasses/content pack

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per policy

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Its getting cherry picked what goes in hexes and what dosent

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just leave Retro/Legacy out of hexes as it was said multiple times and from my side all is good

fair lagoon
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This whole thing is a kick in the balls to the community that spent so much time and effort collecting exclusive BP items under the impression that they weren’t coming back. Not once did they clearly state that they are coming back in hexes and the exclusive tag in the BP doesn’t translate to whatever this is.

‘Exclusive’ should mean only available in BP (or secondary mp), just like every single person in the community thought it did.

Solution: only introduce BP items into the hex pool that don’t have an exclusive tag. Or like what P1 said, use a retired tag as a guarantee that the item isn’t coming back.

Way too many question marks around this economy and item supplies which is stopping the whole ecosystem from flourishing..

Do better Gunzilla 🙏

lilac epoch
lilac epoch
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Thought these was only closed beta wtf

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Is this why we see a influx of them for sale

rigid swallow
# lilac epoch Wait so now u can get retro and legacy from. Hexes as of now? Wow

we are waiting for reply from team because some inactive accts opened uncommon ones, so if they used the old leftover pioneer hexes it couldve been possible, but we just wanna make sure they didnt add them to hexes since we have a plethora of archives in which by various team members it is said to us that they were limited

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and removed from hexes

lilac epoch
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They say lots of things are limited or exclusive n later change it with no announcements they deff need to work on comunication with comunity

rigid swallow
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Its like a returning Pioneer player that never decoded his Pioneer in the 'Hexes' tab, so inherently it is not an issue, very very few ppl have just a few old hexes left

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and so some decodes is not a biggie

lilac epoch
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Could be old hexes ya good point

rigid swallow
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but a wide scale dilution attack against the communities investments by means of adding Legacy/Retros into hexes is beyond the scope of a 'game for gamers' and 'gamers that own their own assets' type of game ~ OTG

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goes against every principle this game stands for

lilac epoch
eager coral
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doubt it's old hexes as the behaviour of old hexes when new items come around is you can drop new items rigth away from accumulated hexes
so once those were removed from the 'loot table' they should have been truly gone (while e.g. new limbs were added and are obtainable from prehistoric hexes as well)

hexes seem to be fungible in this regard (unlike NFT)
no IDs / serial numbers, dates, provenance, special functionality

rigid swallow
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so in other words the community wants answers

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or silent fixes

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potatoe, potato

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really dont understand if they are doing this, what their strategy is, do you believe this will inspire the community? is this showing gratitude to your earliest of supporters, or are you casting them outside forgetting they helped get the game to where it is today? does this inspire trust and confidence in the team?

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quit playin games and leave the OG in the OG section

orchid parcel
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Any response yet?

fallow kernel
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Only silence

hazy loom
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their specialty

obsidian kraken
rigid swallow
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so far so good

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ive been monitoring onchain, in OTG we trust

obsidian kraken
past lake
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Dunno man, 3100 $GUN seemed cheap-ish?
Had to grab it
Especially if Pranskter is not returning through hexes

rigid swallow
vast pendant
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bump

obsidian kraken
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Bump

tacit siren
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improved comunication they say .. lol ... thats not some crazy intern with lots of random tweets but communicating important changes like this

covert sky
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Bump

patent kayak
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Bump

wintry hemlock
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😮

covert sky
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bump

jaunty ingot
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How can I pin Vlad ? <@&1136952136824016896> @vlad

peak kite
jaunty ingot
peak kite
jaunty ingot
willow vigil
rare prawn
umbral nexus
idle crescent
loud cosmos
# umbral nexus i really bit my tongue today

“undervalued”

  • barely noticeable increase to gunz earnings with Pro

  • my “exclusive” content is popping up in hexes, killing the value of my entire inventory

  • Console players can’t get out of testnet w/no indication of when we will, if at all

  • premium side of the BP continues to be inundated with reskins/pallet swaps of existing content and cosmetics.

Hardly undervalued. If anything I see no incentive to keep it now. Some dude making $5000 on opensea from one of the rarest guns in the game doesn’t negate that.

onyx copper
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crazy. its just crazy how devs from the mission and passion - moved to greed and fav AIM ASSIST

DISGUSTING

vale swan
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Day by day i got discouraged to play this game unfortunately 🤨

onyx copper
vale swan
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I wasnt even an shooter fan before, i liked the game concept, web3, and the thing that they listened the community, i get the big meta/gameplay changes but when you farm hours for exclusive items, just to find out they’re not exclusive its not right at all

obsidian kraken
hazy loom
umbral nexus
prisma mauve
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This pretty much much sums it up 😆

umbral nexus
timid adder
# peak kite Waiting on specifics from team. But as always we are committed to our community...

Committed to the community ? Everything you guys have done has been in opposite of what the community wants. . . You yourself stated exclusives are exclusives never to be returned. This is crypto people investing money you don’t go against terms or information you give the people. If you decide to change this, you’d first update the terms and notify the people then do it on future bp not the past bps. This seems very insider trading, shady n scammy and I never like to use the s word but not sure there’s another word I can use. To put in your tos about exclusives and to reassure people in the discord that exclusives won’t return for months, then overnight completely change that, you tell me what that is ?

peak kite
timid adder
umbral nexus
vale swan
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It will be democratic for every big change like this, we will get a poll to vote... like we got the forms after an update... yesterday i bought a player zero jetpack from opensea, with real $$, im not gonna be very happy if that item will suddenly drop from purple omni... PS: i get that you can't do a poll for every major change, but just for those who will impact players, the game can be changed as the management wants...

peak kite
vale swan
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If the gunzilla its really "Committed to the community", let's dont be mad at each other and let's find some solutions together 🫡

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Some transparency would help a lot(drop rates, what a hex could drop), i saw a lot of ppl lately with questions as where the avatar picture drop(only omni or customisation too), just an excel where it says what you can get from every hex in game.

obsidian kraken
simple nest
patent kayak
upper halo
# peak kite Totally with you on that. No player zero gear will drop again. We should have s...

You should consider publishing some sort of guide for rare items, if not you, pay youtubers to do it. There are just too many epic items, and buyers on opensea who haven't played the game or are latecomers but want to invest, won't do so based only on prices. The only thing they know is that the pioneer set is rare, and its items are already up the roof, so they find no motivation to buy the token and buy over appreciated pioneer items (based on the rest, prankster is -95% or more)
There's a significant discrepancy between mainnet and opensea prices because of this, and mainnet is catching up to opensea when it should be the other way around. Once the rest of the economy moves up, pioneer sets can continue to appreciate. This is also a way to thank the community, as most of us aren't pioneers but arrived shortly after.

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And it is understood of course that you will stop making exclusive items unexclusive, or the whole economy slumps.

tacit siren
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improved comunication they say .. lol

lilac epoch
peak kite
peak kite
onyx copper
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and u telling me then u not fall in to GREED.

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this is my FAV 😄

onyx copper