Ive made this point before, in a post along with many other issues, but i isolate this one in specific because of just how much it breaks realism and gameplay in thease areas. Right now, ironworking is limited to north and sahelian africa, along with the eastern swahili states and zimbabwe. Nigeria, in fact i believe any state in west africa, besides the muslim ruled ones, they lack feudalism, and ergo ironworking. This is just plain wrong historicly. The peoples of west africa were some of the best blacksmiths and ironworkers of antiquity. And, with the migration of the bantu from southeast nigeria, ironworking would spread across most of the remainder of africa. The game should model this, all of what ive said here. By the start date of EU5, every single organised state on the map of africa should have ironworking. You dont even need to change the faudalism->ironworking problem, just have them start out with ironworking, the rest of that part of the tech tree can stay locked! It is that simple.
#Expand ironworking in africa OR completely debase ironworking from feudalism
shell jolt
shell jolt
Id also maybe even give an iron production bonus regional inovation for west and bantu africa, considering how few iron RGOs some regions have, and how much bog iron smelters just suck.
dawn sandal
Can you put down some sources for reference, the pdx like that
shell jolt
Can you put down some sources for reference, the pdx like that
The map of ironworking of the world map?
cold prairie
I think that this is a good idea you shouldn’t need to give historical credence for this, the game will never be 100% historically accurate it needs to be fun
dawn sandal
The map of ironworking of the world map?
If you got a map that would be epic.
I'm just curious
cold prairie
I think that this is a good idea you shouldn’t need to give historical credence ...
Like it’s not fun to have your overlord give you to another nation as a subject but that’s not fun
shell jolt
I think that this is a good idea you shouldn’t need to give historical credence ...
How is this fun?
cold prairie
How is this fun?
It’s not that’s the point but it’s historically accurate for nations to do that, currently a lot of Africa is downright unplayable/slogish and unfun
shell jolt
True!
Ha, but i use this game as a sort of alternate history generator, i dont care about if im winning or all that, id like that realism.
I dont understand that half measure. To have some realism, but just as long as its fun? No, thats stupid to me. You can just give up any(?) notion of realism in that case, like civilsation or stellaris. It is all or nothing, for me at least.
shell jolt
If you got a map that would be epic.
the green is feudalism+legalism, the yellow is just feudalism, and black is no institutions. all of africa (besides maybe a few pockets in southern africa) should have feudalism, or should i say ironworking.
dawn sandal
It’s not that’s the point but it’s historically accurate for nations to do that,...
We aren't really here for the fun, but historiography.
nova sonnet
We aren't really here for the fun, but historiography.
i dont think the game has a current purpose as of yet
or, direction more accurately
you say historiography and i show you the blobhemia and entirely french lowlands, golden horde stable till 1800s
dawn sandal
you say historiography and i show you the blobhemia and entirely french lowlands...
Like every pdx product, it is in pre release for six or so years
This is why we are here rn
nova sonnet
Like every pdx product, it is in pre release for six or so years
the humble demo in question:
really shouldve been a demo
shell jolt
Like every pdx product, it is in pre release for six or so years
And by the time the game is done theyll release the trailer for EU6