Heboris SDL

[frigid granite]

Ready to run
Heboris is a game developed in 2001 by Kenji Hosimoto, aka Hosiken. Many, but not all, of its behaviors bear a resemblance to Tetris The Absolute The Grand Master 2, the latest TGM series game at that point. The game was developed using YaneuraoGameScript 2000 (YGS2K), which is a scripting language and runtime environment created by Urao Yane.
[x] rg351v/p amberelec
[x] rg353p Jelos
[x] rg353v Jelos
[x] rg353m arkos
[] oga arkos
[] rg503
[] rg552
[x] x55
Controls
Player 1:

Up: Arrow up
Down: Arrow down
Left: Arrow left
Right: Arrow right
Start: Accept
Select: Back
B: pause
X: Rotate

With a numpad i guess player 2 too
Player 2:

Up: Numpad/Keypad 8
Down: Numpad/Keypad 5
Left: Numpad/Keypad 4
Right: Numpad/Keypad 6
A: Numpad/Keypad 1
B: Numpad/Keypad 2
C: Numpad/Keypad 3
D: Numpad/Keypad 0
Give up: Page up
Pause: Page down

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@cursive torrent with my keyboard works

[young path]

Works good on X55

never press A

NEVEr

😄

[young path]

I dare you

[topaz shoal]

Oh.. that's why.. lol

✓ RG351P Amberelec - works, text looks a bit rough but thats expected with this device.
✓ RG353M Arkos - works and looks fantastic!
: Buttons are whacky on both.

[frigid granite]

Forgot to add the shit for the devices,I'll add it after dinner

@young path for the license seems a case of there's no license but the internet story tells us this product has been always shared since the dawn of the times btw

We use MV or standard?

[young path]

Standard with https://github.com/nightmareci/HeborisC7EX-SDL2#definitely-not-legal-advice

[frigid granite]

Oh okay

I copy the internet story and fuck it

[potent fractal]

Also maybe add a shout out to Kenji Hoshimoto in the notes of the .md file for the wiki

[dawn escarp]

rg353p/jelos works well

[trim coral]

✓ rg351v (amberelec) runs and looks great (and also has that omnipresent-mouse-cursor-in-top-left thing, which is fine)
✓ rgb30 (jelos) runs and looks great
i switched the x and a buttons out of personal preference

[cursive torrent]

Yes! It works perfect on RG552. Even Tomoyo mode (puzzle mode) works! Previously it was little bit broken ;-). But default keys are awful 😉 I think it should be something like this: Rotate Left should be B, rotate Right A, X maybe pause, but 100% it must not be exit on any of ABXY. 😉

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR WORK!

[frigid granite]

i copied the one from cebion ahaha

[frigid granite]

just cause you seems way more experienced in tetris, can i ask you to open the gptk files and change the keyboard letters to make them work that way?

cause surely to me take 100 times the time in case

[cursive torrent]

So to change keys I need to chnage keyboard or joystick in settings?

[frigid granite]

if not, not a problem ahaha

[frigid granite]

in the game folder theres a file with gptk extension

[cursive torrent]

AH OK

[frigid granite]

if you open it with a blocconote

[cursive torrent]

OK I will try to chnage it

[frigid granite]

you have all the mapping

[cursive torrent]

ok

[frigid granite]

guess you know the keyboard button due to the use of the keyboard you said

[cursive torrent]

so input chnage in settings doesnt' work?

[frigid granite]

thx a lot btw

[frigid granite]

guess it works

[cursive torrent]

ok I will try it there

and if lock myself up I will chnage it in file

[frigid granite]

but i want to have the stock boot already okay

so i prefer the file

in the worst case you can just send me your config folder if you do it from in game

should have the changed layout and we include it

so feel free to do like you want if the in game one works

[cursive torrent]

ok. Give me some time, as I use sd card reader to change files. 😉

[frigid granite]

sure

take your time

[young path]

that were the "please remap your keys in the game afterwards" keys

😄

[frigid granite]

oh lol

well

now is time then ahahah

[cursive torrent]

I can change keys in Settings -> Input -> Game controller 1P

But I do not understand how to assign functions

for me on RG 552 - X - hold
Y -rotate left
B - Pause
A - exit

in menu and file the assign keys but not functions, like rotate left

on windows version functions are written in brackets but here just A,B,C,D

A and B should be changed to L-Rot and R-Rot instead of Exit and Pause.

Or maybe it is only on RG552?

Thats Cebion coudnt officialy ported it earlier?

thats why*

He made Y as start in old version

it was odd in menu but fine for gameplay

IMHO, I think simplified somehow menu functions keys and overwrote gameplay ones...

So actually there must be 6 keys: ABCD,GIVEUP,PAUSE. But we have only 4 and it look like the last two overwrites A and B

so GIVEUP should be somehting to hard to press like L2 ( as we never giv up 😉

and ause maybe R1

pause*

*L1 and R1

not L2

[frigid granite]

My god, how complex ahaha

I try to adapt everything to the gptk

Super thx

[gloomy rose]

hey @frigid granite , thanks a ton for doing this port. I just bought an rg351v specifically to play this

it's almost perfect but at least on my device it's got some issues with controls

i tried removing entries here and it is almost there

seems like the in-game keymapping doesn't work though, one of the buttons 'B' is always cancel no matter what

also the mouse cursor shows up, doesn't need to be there

[ember totem]

restart the device

[gloomy rose]

ok, trying that

no change

also, in 'input test', when I press B it triggers both A and B

[ember totem]

you need to change it to:

a = \"
b = \"
x = \"
y = \"

[gloomy rose]

B button still is 'return' or 'exit' even after that. while other buttons can no longer map

[ember totem]

hrmmmm

[gloomy rose]

altho now B only triggers B in the input test

kinda hard to see but this is how it was before with B triggering two buttons

this shows B exiting out of the input config

it seems like it might be hard-coded into the application or something?

[young path]

Yap

[gloomy rose]

that 'b' button is definitely one that will be needed for playing the game

oh shit wait, in game it might be working

[young path]

Probably sdl joystick detection

[gloomy rose]

B may not be exiting

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

it all works!

[young path]

Awesome

[gloomy rose]

i had been solely relying on rp2s because it has the powa to run tgm2p in fbn ra

this is exactly what i wanted

the only way it could possibly be better is if it were that 4" 640x480 screen

but it's barely any bigger

[young path]

Let's pretend I totally understood what you were saying 😛

[ember totem]

thats my job

[ember totem]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-batman-lego-batman-movie-sorry-what-are-you-talking-about-literally-have-no-idea-gif-1665269533911814844

[gloomy rose]

retroid pocket 2s has t610 chip, significantly faster than rk3326. has the horsepower necessary to run some late 90s arcade games that other devices can't play properly. rk3566 also struggles so it's not really any faster than rk3326 for my purposes.

but this heboris game is a clone of tgm2p Tetris The Grandmaster 2 Plus so I don't need to rely on that fbneo core in retroarch any more

i'm freeeeeeee

[ember totem]

i see 😄

im glad

[gloomy rose]

didja see the video of me playing above? it's soooooo good

@ember totem do you think there's a way to hide the mouse cursor without recompiling?

it's a really minor thing

part of why i wanted to get a linux device was to maybe mess with doing dev or try to do a port of my own, cross compiling aarch64 etc

[ember totem]

considering i only found out about this port about 20 minutes ago.

😄

[gloomy rose]

i actually know the person who did this decompilation, nightmareci - their repo is referenced in here

when i told them there was heboris on portmaster they assumed it was the older SDL1.2 C++ version and not their decompilation SDL2 version

[ember totem]

Excellent, well we have guides on how to compile stuff

[gloomy rose]

i actually had the rg503 awhile ago cus i wanted to try doing a port of a mono/xna game, it didn't play 60fps even though it was a relatively simple game

i think i shared the progress i had made with johnny on flame

but it's a super niche falling block game that nobody cares about

[frigid granite]

Amberelec I suppose(the only one that visualizes cursors tendentially)

Probably the cursor isn't even coded beside having maybe a skin in this case

So not impossible we delete it and you have a cursor in the same place no matter what

[gloomy rose]

got it. i wonder if the cursor's position could be set offscreen to X=640

@frigid granite thanks again for putting this together, it's soooooo awesome to not have to rely on fbneo tgm2p any more

[frigid granite]

That could be possible

[frigid granite]

Btw if available always better sdl2

Sometimes needs little changes to compile, but worth it

[gloomy rose]

seems like if any of the OS overlays come up like volume or brightness the game sometimes bugs out, requiring hard reboot

[gloomy rose]

frozen/crashed 😦

[gloomy rose]

trying on amberelec instead of arkos

[frigid granite]

in case of "sometimes" usually is a memory leak or similar

i'll check btw

[frigid granite]

also, a bit unrelated, on various ports what makes the difference is having rk3566 AND 2 gb of ram

[gloomy rose]

oh boy... playing on arkos and the application just suddenly restarted and then on restart it closed

[gloomy rose]

good to know

battery is 77% so it's not low battery

seems like a memory leak

[frigid granite]

weird, i check on my device too, but i suppose is something we didn't noticed in low power devices

[gloomy rose]

what device are you using to play?

[frigid granite]

also cause some ripoffs use less perfomant ram

rg353v

worse scenario we can do also a version based on sdl 1.2 if seems to not crash

i suppose

[gloomy rose]

i might return the rg351v

[frigid granite]

first let me check on my device, that seems weird, but could also a fix i made to compile that annoy newer updates

How much time you played before the crash?

[gloomy rose]

15 minutes, maybe a little more

two different CFW, two different sd cards, both are crashing

[frigid granite]

btw, i try compiling the 1.2 too

se you can try it

[young path]

Did it crash on Amber?

[frigid granite]

y

seems

[young path]

Then it's the game

Because I do everything on my 351v and it never crashes

[frigid granite]

could be a memory leak on low power devices?

[gloomy rose]

on arkos it froze, on amberelec it closed

i don't think the difference in power between rk3326 and rk3566 is so great, they're very similar

[young path]

25% more power but that does not relate to crash

[gloomy rose]

40nm vs 28nm process so higher clocks

[gloomy rose]

right

i'll try unofficialOS next

[young path]

Amberelec is the most stable of them all

It's not cfw fault

uOS almost has the same innards as Amberelec

Run it with gdb or something

[gloomy rose]

log.txt

[frigid granite]

about 15 mins in game for now btw

[young path]

No error there

[frigid granite]

suppose we csan try the sdl 1.2 for low power devices then (?)

[young path]

Maybe running it idle vs full at play is different

[frigid granite]

i'm playing

[young path]

Did it crash for you while being idle @gloomy rose

[gloomy rose]

i never left it idle for all that long, didn't see any freeze/crash there

when i play i'm playing really fast, idk if that would have any impact

trying again

[frigid granite]

so far no crash here

can also change options without great issues too seems

[gloomy rose]

i had to do the same modification to the controls file here

[frigid granite]

uh right

[frigid granite]

k, i try seems weird could be this

[young path]

It might be yes

[frigid granite]

i tried, but i suppose his fast match are way longer lol

while my usual is kinda long or just random if done fast

btw, as i said we can try 1.2 at this point for low power

[gloomy rose]

i don't think it's an issue of power

nor RAM

[frigid granite]

definitely not ram occupied

but are you playing atm?

cause i suppose menus and most of the game are not super asset sensitive

[gloomy rose]

yes playing

it's at 37% cpu when paused, goes to 50% while playing

got promotional chance to qualify 8th

[frigid granite]

that said, memory leak could happen also with not all ram occupied technically

so maybe could be sometimes really specific that happen only on some devices

[frigid granite]

hypothetically

btw, compiling 1.2, i pack in a few hrs probably

[gloomy rose]

crashed again

it just exits out

[young path]

Gdb and backtrack could shed some light

[young path]

Yeah these say nothing

[gloomy rose]

how do i run gdb and the app via ssh?

oh i think i know

[young path]

gdb --args ./HeborisC7EX-SDL2

(gdb) set env LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/putpathhere/libs

(gdb) run

And when it crashes bt

[gloomy rose]

this won't work?

[young path]

Sure just needs to find the correct arguments so you can test it 🙂

So gdb appname

And run

[gloomy rose]

ok i got promotional exam again

let's see if it crashes now

got the promotion, not that

ok i was watching twitch and letting the demo run and it crashed/quit out on its own

https://discord.gg/ppKC72NQ talking to nightmareci about it a bit

[gloomy rose]

I'm gonna try using amberelec prerelease from november rather than the regular release

[young path]

Still think it's a port issue 😛

[frigid granite]

upload in a min

[frigid granite]

it is

probably not a problem problem, but definitely is the port

btw, 1.2 on in a min

btw, now i compile also a newer sdl2

[gloomy rose]

no sound

[frigid granite]

i could have forgot the folder lol

let me check

beside that, crashes?

[gloomy rose]

just running the demo

[frigid granite]

updated heboris sdl2

[frigid granite]

noticed now that there are no tracks

for some reasons

[gloomy rose]

what changed?

[frigid granite]

dunno

last 2 months of commits

various bugs and some refactoring from what i can see

[frigid granite]

btw, definitely just lacks of the files

i did a comparison and litterally bgm and sound effect folder are indeed totally empty also on the repo

[gloomy rose]

oh awesome

can you move mouse offscreen also?

that sdl1.2 port is gonna take too much work to fix, doesn't have any option to quit the game

[frigid granite]

If there's a pointer code yap

[frigid granite]

?

Fix what?

Start+select not works?

Oh you mean return to menu/quit the actual match?

For the music files, guess I just need to find the original release btw

Nothing too complex

the back button just need to be set btw

i can probably include the button already set in 2 mins

start + select now works bte

there was a little typo

you give up with l1

all works now

sounds aside just cause they lacks

with enter for options too now

for accepting changes

technically now l1 is hardcoded for give up in the gptk, but you can just toggle it out and just have the enter in the file if you set a give up button on first boot

[gloomy rose]

are you gonna upload this to the portmaster repo?

I sent the rg351v back... thinking I'll maybe try an rg arc instead

[frigid granite]

yeah i suppose

time to have the reorganization of the repo complete

[gloomy rose]

what device are you testing on? if you get a chance can you just leave the new version running for a while and see if it keeps going through the demo for like 30 mins?

[frigid granite]

rg353v

that said, i can try

last time i played about that time, but i can easily do another session

[gloomy rose]

if i can't have portmaster heboris i gotta buy a vita, the person who did the sdl2 port did the vita port as well

but hopefully the issues were related to rg351v

thanks for your help

[frigid granite]

the base is the same too

there's no real changes

so could be something very specific on low power/ram use on linux arm devices

also, we can't sadly have the same accuracy on all device unlike vita for obvious reasons sometimes ahah

[gloomy rose]

i mean i ran htop from ssh and it looked to be using way under the full 1gb

maybe i'm misinterpreting tho, i never figured out VIRT RES SHR columns lol

[frigid granite]

yap, but i said could be something related to, definitely not ram occupied

[young path]

Highly doubt it was 351v specific

[frigid granite]

Definitely not 351v specific

But probably for this kind of device.
Anyway, there was the 1.2 version too to try

But it seems the rg351v has been returned lol

[gloomy rose]

thinking about getting an rg arc specifically for this heboris port

i actually bought the 2gb emmc version at release and returned it because of how awful the stock fw is

but now that there's usable cfw (I wasn't sure if there ever would be) it's tempting me

but i'm into that blue colorway with 1gb ram and concerned that i'll run into the same problem as on the 351v 😦

vita would be cool but they're well over $100 for a 2nd hand model so i'm hesitant

from the tetris re discord.. sounds like that 4" 640x480 rg arc would be the way to go...

[frigid granite]

Suppose the best way on vita would be a taito mode like

[frigid granite]

Hw side is not totally different from the actual devices, so a fork or something was definitely probable

[frigid granite]

About that, unironically playstation portal fault LoL

[gloomy rose]

well yeah but it seems/seemed like all the cfw devs are now anti-anbernic so it required a single person to fork and work on it

[frigid granite]

Like happened for all these cfw at the times

Technically they all are derivative from each other, so it was just a matter of time ahah

That said, yeah, anbernic definitely is not helping by giving the source only at black seraph for some devices lol

[frigid granite]

The guy that released cfw and similar under a paywall

[young path]

But remember this is just a conclusion you made. This is not a 351v issue unless you had a hardware defect like overheating. We would have so many reports on 351V because a ton of people use it. This is a software problem not a device problem

[gloomy rose]

oh i'm really appreciative that you guys made the port, i don't know what was the cause of it crashing on that rg351v but i bought the device specifically to play this port so if it didn't work then i don't want the device y'know

[frigid granite]

Yeah, but have you tried the 1.2?

Cause atm the only problem was that there's no audio/music cause there are no files included (but definitely something we can find and include), nothing really bad to fix.

[gloomy rose]

no i didn't. i was hype that you updated the sdl2 port with the new commits. i'll probably buy the blue rg arc and try the new version sdl2 port there.

someone's sending me a trimui smart (the 2.4" screen one), i'm hoping to compile either the sdl1.2 or sdl2 port on there lol

[frigid granite]

If it's 64 bit you don't need to compile anything hypothetically

You can technically use the ports up here, with a different boot script, but executables are fine in this sense

[gloomy rose]

yeah i'll give it a shot, it has wifi so i should be able to ssh in

[frigid granite]

Try both btw

[gloomy rose]

was able to get keys remapped, working nicely thus far

sooo good on the 4" 640x480 screen, and the dpad seems to be very good for block game. testing tgm2p in fbneo ra I got to s1.

gonna leave the demo running for a bit

[gloomy rose]

I left it running for a while and it froze =[

[gloomy rose]

install gdb with apt-get

k it's running, waiting for crash

[gloomy rose]

froze

i think it's a missing sound effect

some sound that plays rarely at the start or end of some demo in attract mode

i ctrl+c and it's still going, app is still running

[gloomy rose]

turned off all sounds and turned on debug mode, still froze during demo

[young path]

Yep, matches with the problem you had previously

It's a problem with the game

[gloomy rose]

yeah, i guess i need to set up cross compile and put in a bunch of printf stuff to determine what's causing it

it's a memory leak

RAM usage continuously increasing by 1mb

that's why it takes a while to eventually freeze

someone would need to have been running the program for quite a while to notice

if someone just played a quick game or two it would never freeze

oh boy, I ctrl+c'd the application from ssh and now (even after restarting) I have the overlay of the game on my screen

[young path]

Ugh

That doesn't sound nice lol

Especially after rebooting

[gloomy rose]

how can i get rid of this?

[young path]

@sour birch

Any idea?

[gloomy rose]

i have to like flush something somewhere

[young path]

Normally things like that happen on reboot

But I'm not familiar with the cfw

Maybe tech toy has an idea

[gloomy rose]

holy fuck

i popped in the stock sd card from anbernic

same issue on the display

it like fucked the display

man what a nightmare, all i wanted to do was play heboris

[young path]

How on earth

Are you sure it was shut down completely?

[gloomy rose]

it seems as though i somehow broke the panel

i give up

[young path]

Wait until @sour birch replies he made the cfw for it

[gloomy rose]

yeah that's what i was using, TheRA. i'm not sure what solution he could offer, the panel displays wrong even in the anbernic stock OS.

[young path]

How long did it run?

[gloomy rose]

heboris overlayed over top of the OS in that weird way? maybe 15 minutes

i've done that before with other linux devices and never had a result which damaged the panel

[gloomy rose]

welp the screen seems to have gone back to normal...

what's the best way of discovering the source of the memory leak? @frigid granite

[gloomy rose]

maybe this is an issue with the OS?

based on HTOP, mem usage is going up constantly

in every application

wtf it's even going up with no applications open

increase of 4mb over 30 seconds just sitting idle in ES

[young path]

yeah but that's still in 235 not spiking, fluctuation is normal

"normally" 😛

[gloomy rose]

I don't know if I'd characterise this as fluctuation

it's just going up non-stop

i'm running the godot donut dodo port and it's the same thing

it started at a way lower figure, it just steadily increases

when it gets close to or at 978 i assume is when the device will lock up

[young path]

In normal scenarios this won't happen because no one is going to play long enough

[gloomy rose]

1 minute later

[young path]

Not sure what causes it

[young path]

Yeah that's way too low in increase to be a problem maybethat's why no one looked at it

[ember totem]

Doesnt sound too bad

PortMaster-GUI mem leaks 😄

its just not noticible enough for anyone to complain yet

[gloomy rose]

well it makes some games unplayable, like heboris will always freeze the device after about 15 minutes

[young path]

We have almost 300 Ports not a single one crashes due to ram

well they do on 1 gb devices where the game wants over 1gb from the start

but a problem like this is the games fault

so if a memory leak is at fault for the game it needs to be fixed

[gloomy rose]

the rate of increase of memory usage in heboris is higher than others

from 629mb to 636mb in 15s, about .5mb/s

[frigid granite]

Have you tried the 1.2?

Lol

[gloomy rose]

not yet

with 300mb free, i will freeze in 600s or 10 minutes

[frigid granite]

Cause probably the 1.2 has no problem on the rg351v too

[young path]

which again leads to the game. It's open source so it can be fixed eventually

[gloomy rose]

it might be an OS issue? every application seems to display the same behavior

[ember totem]

im checking with my 351v

[young path]

well you tested on the 351v which had a completly different os than thera

[gloomy rose]

i tested two diff OS on 351v, ark and something else, i forgot which

[ember totem]

Okay, its sitting at 430mb atm, will give it a few minutes

[gloomy rose]

crashing soon

[ember totem]

526 now

in 5 minutes 😄

[gloomy rose]

oh it already crashed

[ember totem]

looks like it is a memleak in the game

[gloomy rose]

number no longer going up

[ember totem]

has the game crashed?

[gloomy rose]

the device freezes

the game is still actually running but at like 0.000000000000001fps

i can't f10 out of htop in my ssh term

requires hard reboot

so app time was 14:25

testing w/ smw port

increase of 11mb in a little over 1 minute

so approximate 10m/minute

[ember totem]

685 mb 😄

[gloomy rose]

seems like around 940mb is crash, so 940-215=725mb to go. if i'm going up 10mb/minute, i will crash in 7 minutes?

i'm curious to see if the stock anbernic os has the same property

[ember totem]

Looks like on AmberELEC on my 351v Heboris us going up about 18mb/minute

[ember totem]

We dont support Stock OS so the point is moot

[gloomy rose]

yeah i know

just to see if i can identify whether it's also occuring there

like i don't have any device which can run JELOS, but that runs mainline kernel and seems to be more minimal

so maybe it's not occuring there

i bought the rg351v to use mainline kernel on JELOS but i got a device with a v2 panel that was unsupported

[ember totem]

i mainly use arkos

[gloomy rose]

at this point it seems like playing basically anything for more than 15 or 20 minutes is going to crash this system

so sadly i think i am just going to return this device

[ember totem]

You could debug the port, see what is causing the crash

😄

[gloomy rose]

every single application has the same property

"TheRA" CFW

the screenshots i'm sharing just now are from running smw port not heboris

retroarch, ports, anything

10-20mb/min increase in RAM even while idling

i wish i had a JELOS compatible device to see if it had the same issues

smw 16 minutes 342m/978m

[young path]

Did other stuff actually crash?

Or just heboris and you'Re watching the idle memory go up in general

[frigid granite]

Also, have you tried the 1.2? LoL

[gloomy rose]

only heboris has crashd

i'm gonna wait smw out

but every single app (beyond just ports) exhibits the same behavior

[young path]

yes

but they don't crash

[ember totem]

Yes, programs use ram

[frigid granite]

They occupy ram?

[gloomy rose]

simply idling the programs use 10-20mb per minute

[ember totem]

@gloomy rose never watch PortMaster-GUI on htop 😄

[gloomy rose]

eventually i expect they will all crash/freeze the device

[young path]

but it never crashes

[gloomy rose]

well the only program i've waited for has been heboris, and that crashed

now i'm waiting on the 2nd program, smw

it's up for almost 20 minutes and gone from 180mb to 386mb

i expect when system total goes to around 940 it will freeze, like heboris

[young path]

So in real life scenario no one is going to hit that

[gloomy rose]

no one is going to play for 40 minutes?

the whole reason i wanted to buy a device which supports portmaster is to play heboris for an hour at a time

[young path]

after 40 minutes it would be in 580mb no?

[gloomy rose]

yeah maybe it'll take an hour or 80 minutes to crash

i'm not necessarily saying it's anything wrong with the ports applications themselves

as i stated several times already the behavior is also present with retroarch

and seemingly even idling in es

[young path]

Yes, we get that, but if only one program crashes no matter what behaviour it's still a problem with the game

[gloomy rose]

well only one program has been tested thus far

[young path]

No matter if other programs also rise in memory

[gloomy rose]

so to say that only one program crashes doesn't seem to be entirely accurate to me

[young path]

I've managed the amberelec cfw for 2 years now and in over 150k downloads we've not had crash reports from someone playing any smw for example

[gloomy rose]

I don't have a device to test JELOS on - it may be the case that these same applications in JELOS don't have this behavior

well this isn't amberelec

it could very well be this "TheRA" CFW

[young path]

but heboris crashed for you on 351v

[gloomy rose]

@ember totem seems to have the same issue with heboris on arkos, yes

on rg351v

[young path]

If it crashes for him ^^, maybe at 977 it'll release memory

😄

[gloomy rose]

so that's yet another interesting experiment to await the result of!

🤓

what're you at @ember totem ?

[ember totem]

well

it went flat

so

not so great

[gloomy rose]

what does 'went flat' mean?

[ember totem]

battery ran out of power

lmao

[young path]

lmao

[ember totem]

i havent charged it in a week or so

havent dont much with portmaster with work being so busy 😄

[frigid granite]

Schrodinger port

Now it is both crashed and not

[ember totem]

My bedtime soon, i will try it tomorrow. I have put it on charge

[young path]

i know the os does not crash because my device is often being on for 12 hours at a time sitting on es

[ember totem]

Oh yeah i let mine idle for hours on end, sending various builds to the device to test

[gloomy rose]

500

[ember totem]

that wont crash

RES is only at 374mb

[gloomy rose]

not any more!

it'll crash when Mem hits ~940mb

not crash but freeze

note that we started at less than 189mb

lol it closed around 850mb total usage

[young path]

that was smw?

[gloomy rose]

yes

i got bored and started playing it and after beating a level it closed, it wasn't idling at the time

[young path]

@sour birch possible slow memory leak in thera until it crashes 😄

on top of that heboris also leaks a bit more than other apps

[gloomy rose]

playing fbneo core in ra, this started under 200mb total Mem

so basically given enough time anything is going to either crash or freeze. less noticable on the 2gb "D" models.

[young path]

aka never 😛

That is basically my chrome browser

😄

[gloomy rose]

I think I'm just gonna send the arc-s back, sadly

I'll try to pick up a used v1 rg351v and figure out arm64 cross compilation

good opportunity to learn

i don't wanna spend over $100 on a used vita to play heboris

[frigid granite]

And nothing will change

I repeat to try the 1.2, that is super probable it has way less problems

Use the same version, just older libs

[frigid granite]

If you compile the same code for the same device you had... the results will be the same