Pro Config bot template with prefill and UJB | Includes regenerate and rewrite button [Kirbish34]

[thorn lake]

Hello everyone, my name is Kirbish I am a bot creator in myshell, currently focusing on making and updating pro config bots.

I made a tutorial about how to use a prefill and UJB in your pro config bots, but it's been quite a while, and the tutorial has been outdated for quite some time (Here it is: https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1239663250233233439)

So in this post, I will give you a json code, a bot template for NSFW bot creation. The code includes a working jailbreak (prefill, ujb, main prompt, post (nsfw) prompt ). As well as regenerate and rewrite buttons for ease of use (All thanks to @midnight fable | Please check his bots here: https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1206907500524478524)

The tutorial won't go to explain prefill and ujb works, you can learn more about it here: https://discord.com/channels/1122227993805336617/1239663250233233439 | Additionally, I don't want to make this post that long, so let's get this over with

So, in the template file, there are basically only two things you have to put in, the prompt for the bot, and the intro message for the bot.

It's really clearly shown in the file where to put each. So make sure to replace the placeholder "(Intro message)" and "(Character prompt)"

You have to put the intro message in two places, one for rendering it out, and one for including it in the memory.

The JB works well, both in SFW scenarios (I think), and in NSFW scenarios (trust me, i've tested. if you are getting filtered, you probably did something wrong )

Anyways, good luck, if you have any questions or problems make sure to let me know.

Proof of the JB working | (Warning: NSFW, possible semi non-con, kind of cringe ): https://app.myshell.ai/share/UZJ3aa

(I also included a simple darkness bot, to see how little you have to change and how easy it is)

[nova tusk]

Good, you post it when I am adding the rewrite function

[craggy jewel]

wow this looks fairly promising and can help new creators to onboard themselves

[alpine aspen]

Update: This surprisingly works for GPT 4, GPT 4o is still off limits though.

[midnight fable]

Really a great work, one of the must-see guide for all claude NSFW users

[nova tusk]

@alpine aspen @thorn lake seems the JB not work now lol

[thorn lake]

I think jb's don't work since yesterday

[alpine aspen]

Lemme test

[nova tusk]

all dead

[alpine aspen]

You think this is a web issue.

[alpine aspen]

It still works for me.

I cleared the memory.

@nova tusk Maybe report this as a bug, if its inconsistent then its not with Claude.

[nova tusk]

I cannot

[alpine aspen]

Wtf

Try clearing your memory.

[nova tusk]

I notice it because someone report to me that my bot not work.
I heard from MOD that many people JB fail too

[alpine aspen]

If that doesn't work then ask the Devs

Its inconsistent. So that means that the Website is the issue.

[thorn lake]

Two people dm'd me about it yesterday and i saw people talk about it i general

[weary kayak]

Since yesterday, another user and I have been reporting, but it has been ignored. Probably, when specifying context in the memory, it is not being loaded.

[nova tusk]

related to memory loading?

[weary kayak]

Probably so, my assistants can't remember things from a little while ago. lol
It seems that all RP creators who are simulating prefill by inserting it into memory are affected.

[weary kayak]

When you spoke, it went very smoothly, really thank you.

[alpine aspen]

I see

Well I'm using actual prefill as opposed to doing a prefill injection via the memory.

[thorn lake]

i think he meant the same thing

[native trout]

I have a question. In case you have the prompt in a external page (knowledge base) is there any way to use it instead of writing the prompt here?

[thorn lake]

i don't think so... sorry, i don't really know much about knowledge base in proconfig

[native trout]

how such a powerful feature has been overlooked when adding the pro-config... it's pure loss

[thorn lake]

could you describe what specifically do you want to do? just use a prompt you have written in an external page as a prompt for the LLM?

[native trout]

When I started creating bots, I realized that the textfield (maybe 2.000 characters? 1.500?) were not enough. So I used the feature "Knowledge base" as prompt to generate personality, skills, traits, etc.

[thorn lake]

well, the prompts in proconfig aren't limited like they were in classic mode though

[nova tusk]

No, recently (maybe these few days) there is a limitation...

[thorn lake]

what do you mean

[nova tusk]

When calling out Claude, there is now a token limit for system prompt. If it exceeds the limit, an error will occur.

[nova tusk]

just knew it recently

However, when using tasks in proconfig, the upper limit for the system prompt is considerably higher than in classic mode. I only encounter this problem with certain episodes that have many character settings.

[thorn lake]

holy moly, how big was the system prompt for it to give an error??

[nova tusk]

need to count...wait

should be around 5000 tokens
3000 words

[native trout]

That's why I use knowledge base... 😅

[nova tusk]

I got the same report from the users of my bot🥹

[weary kayak]

If this is the overall problem, then it will be so. It has improved a bit in the past few days, but I'm still forgetful, and the details are vague. The Sonnet 3.5 before this uproar was almost perfect, I miss him.

[nova tusk]

btw, for the jailbreak fail issue. From my observations, this appears to be an issue involving random accounts X random bots. Some users experience jailbreak failures when using certain bots, but not when using others. Conversely, some bots only exhibit jailbreak failures with certain users, while working fine for others.

I asked one of my bot's users, who was experiencing this issue, to create a new account and use my bot again. The jailbreak failure problem did not recur on the new account...

[thorn lake]

a user dm'd me and also created a new account, and they said it didn't work on either

[nova tusk]

then, he can consider to create more and more new account

[normal radish]

Hey sir, ive been use your bot template, and its amazing, i mean, can you create for the new Claude V3.5 Sonnet (new) version? bcause when i only change the widget id, sometimes the chat back to start, to the first respond. Thanks,

[normal radish]

And i also have this issue too 🧐🧐

[nova tusk]

everything should be the same instead of the widget id.

not understand what mean the chat back to start.

[thorn lake]

What do you mean "chat go back to start"?

[normal radish]

Like error, something like the bot showing the prompt on the chat, or the chat back again to the first massage. When i see the config, its little bit different between Claude V3.5 sonnet and sonnet (new).

[thorn lake]

Are you sure all you changed was the widget id? Can you send me an example of the error?

[normal radish]

something like this

[normal radish]

Yes, and also adding (new) on the widget name, sonnet like ( sonnet (new)), and when i change the widget id to v3.5 sonnet (not the (new)), its normal again, nothing wrong.

[thorn lake]

Looks like something is wrong with the memory or system prompt, can you send the code here or in the dm's?

Won't be able to help yet, but I'll check out when I am free

[normal radish]

what code?

[thorn lake]

The whole proconfig code

[normal radish]

the whole config prompt?

[thorn lake]

Yes

[normal radish]

but i cant copied, how to copied?

[thorn lake]

Are you on pc?

[normal radish]

Mobile phone.

[thorn lake]

No clue... Idk how people even try to do anything with proconfig on a phone

[normal radish]

I just copy your template and add my prompt on it then paste on the pro config

[thorn lake]

Idk how to help you then, I tried changing the widget id in my bots and it worked fine

[normal radish]

i will try it again then, thanks for your time btw.

[normal radish]

Oh right, should i change the widget name too? I mean, is it correct like this?

[thorn lake]

No need, just need to change the widget id

[normal radish]

thanks

[nova tusk]

I'm just curious, how long is your system prompt?

[alpine aspen]

I think its because you're using the Widget name

I'm using the Widget ID.

[normal radish]

system prompt? means?

[normal radish]

im using that too, you can see it at the pic, or should i delete the model id?

[normal radish]

I mean the template looks different between Sonnet v3.5 and the New Sonnet.

[nova tusk]

system prompt mean system_prompt

if system_prompt is too long, similar thing will happen

[lucid salmon]

erfan8k_ has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[nova tusk]

Long time no see.
I would like to ask, have you ever experienced that the system prompt is too long, causing prefill to become unstable?

[thorn lake]

What do you mean by unstable exactly?

[nova tusk]

randomly happen. But more frequent with the long system prompt (my observation).
The first one is questionable. But the second and third one seems the AI cannot read the prefill

[thorn lake]

Weird, i never had these problems. I know that ai forgets what is happening if the memory is too long, and it's been a bug for a long time for me, but never something like that

[nova tusk]

may i know the token amount of your prompt? somehow some of my prompt can reach almost 5000 token

[thorn lake]

I'm sick and can't really do that right now, but i don't think the system prompts are ever over 3000 tokens for me.

[nova tusk]

OKay, thank you for your reply

[alpine aspen]

Has anyone noticed Opus is tripping? Somehow it's beginning to repeat words like Sonnet 3.5 now and is somehow less creative it is it just me?

@nova tusk I would like a second opinion.

[nova tusk]

unfortunately , I do not have experience with Opus.
repeat words means using the same phrase or same words for multi response?

[alpine aspen]

Multi response

I don't know if I'm doing something wrong I'm trying a new configuration changing my Top P to 0.98, Temp to 0.8, Freq Penalty to 0.3 and Presence to 0.4.

I tried raising the latter two. Did the same for temp to 0.85 and Top P back to 1.

For example it repeats "The leather straps of her armor dug into her flesh as she continued to twist in.."

[nova tusk]

did not make a comparison between diff configuration, but my freq penalty and presence penalty are always 2

[alpine aspen]

Do you usually adjust Top P?

[nova tusk]

seldom adjust the config topP is 0.8 and temp 1

I see 3.5 usually repeat the words for the similar action...so I force AI to move on and make progress

[nova tusk]

somehow thinking, Red errors have appeared frequently recently. Could it be related to the frequent failure of my prefill?

[alpine aspen]

You think there's something wrong with Opus its only taking 10 seconds to send text plus is really repetitive?