#POV in Prompts and Video: A Conversation

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viscid flower
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Hey there, creators! You have a goal: to make your audiences hooked to your bots. You want them to chat with your bots non-stop, to come back for more every time and never get bored. 
These days, the people who chat with AI are not newbies anymore. They have experienced many bots and impressig them with a bot won’t come so easy.  Most of them are not curious about AI anymore, they ve seen enough. Now they expect something different. Something more.
So you want them to feel that they are talking to a realistic character, a unique and memorable persona, not an AI. to escape from reality and their day to day problems and just have fun.  That’s what entertainment is all about.
And to achieve that goal, we need a rich collection of creative and artistic tools and a knowledge of how to utilize them. And one of the most important ones is the art of point of view (POV).

I ve written a couple of thousand words about POV so far and i was about to put it here, but then i thought " hey what am I doing? Writing thousands of words in the age of content explosion? ” So I decided to change my approach. Who has the time to read a ten-thousand-word article on POV! Some of you might, I know. So I might still publish it, but before that let’s make it conversation style. And beginners are also welcome to participate. share your personal experiences regarding POV

I personally think POV is overlooked in many situations. Like it’s something that just exists out there on its own, doesn’t receive the attention or care it needs, it’s supposed to work by itself. Sure, POV will flow natrually but in my experience it goes all over the place and it’s hard to control. Also, I’ve noticed POV issues in many current bots and most of the times there is no single instruction or example for the POV in their prompts, at all.

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So shells, share your thoughts about this topic. How does each POV _first person, second person, third person limited and so on, influence the vibe and feeling of a bot or video? Was there any particular moment when you noticed the importance of POV in prompt? do you know of any bot that struggle with POV?

   Let’s start a conversation and feel free to add your own questions or examples. I’m eager to hear it. And if you’re working on a bot right now, why don’t you share a sample response of your character here and let’s talk about it's POV
viscid flower
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As our first step, lets explore a couple of advanced techniques that will supercharge your creativity—not only in character bots but also in video, lyrics and image generation. I’ll save the beginner’s guide for another time, assuming most of you are already pros or have at least some experience with prompt writing.

I invite you to examine the example below, think about its Point of View , mood and its feeling. and then respond to the carefully selected questions. This way, you’ll naturally start focusing on the POV more and more. So, the next time you’re reading a text kr writing a prompt, you’ll find yourself wondering about its POV. instinctly.

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Part. 1
(... Person POV - viewpoint character: ...) 
You're in the middle of the desert, the night sky a blanket of stars that stretch on forever. The silence is broken only by the gentle whisper of the wind. As you're pondering the vastness of it all, you spot a distant glow. It's a campfire, and it's beckoning you with its warm light. You start walking towards it, the sand shifting underfoot with each step.


Part 2
(? Person POV - viewpoint character: ?)

(Meanwhile)

Max is hanging out by the fire with his friends, the night's chill chased away by the heat of the flames. Laughter fills the air as they swap stories of their wild adventures. "This is living," Max declares, his voice laced with excitement. "The open road, the stars, it's all ours."
"No doubt," Zoe agrees, her eyes alight with the same passion. "We've seen some epic stuff on this trip."
"And we've got the marks to show for it," Alex jokes, gesturing to a bandage on his arm.
Max grins. "It's all part of the adventure."
The group's energy is infectious, the fire crackling like the soundtrack to their lives. The stars above seem to dance, and for a moment, Max feels infinite, a part of something bigger.
Suddenly, Max hears a sound in the distance, a faint rustling that cuts through the night. He freezes, his smile fading. "Hey, guys, quiet down," he says, his voice low and serious. "Did you hear that? Hello? Is someone out there?" The fire crackles again, and the group looks at each other, a mix of curiosity and unease settling in.
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assess your familiarity with Point of View concepts by answering the following questions:

  1. The example scene above has two part seperated by meanwhile tag. Who is the viewpoint character in each one? Who is the protagonist in the scene?

  2. From whose perspective would a user experience the scene?

  3. What terms describe the POV of each parts? Is it first person, second person, or third person? Is the narrator omniscient or limited?

  4. Can you mention a movie scene, a song, or a novel where this technique is evidently being utilized?

  5. What is the term for this technique? Where the narrator shifts the point of view or changes the POV character to narrate a scene from multiple perspectives?

  6. Use one of your bots to create another scene with this same idea, which has two sections with different POVs. Describe the prompt you used.

dapper gulch
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POV is something I am struggling with...when writing the bot prompt itself sometimes the POV changes but I am not sure if the bot understand it correctly.
Anyway, will read through your post in detail in due time!

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Just curious, which bots are yours btw?

viscid flower
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I saw the issue mentioned in this article. The challenge arises when AI is instructed to switch the point of view (POV) after the story has already been established. However, in our current discussion, we're exploring various experimental approaches to bot creations. While the model's performance mostly lies within the realm of training and machine learning, our focus is on how creators can extract the best from the existing tools. Wich AI is one of those toola. And how to overcome the limitations of currently available models.

Experimenting with different approaches opens doors to genius and artistic creations. On the other hand, sticking to the same approach repeatedly—such as using the same POV, using a single character, or relying on a specific prompt technique over and over again—may be safe but risks the bot becoming banal and predictable. No Surprise. No innovation.

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As it mentioned before The welcome message and the body of the prompt is exactly the creator's responsibilty . When a creator claims that "the model isn't capable in maintaining pov" , it's essential to ask: Are they certain that they have written the prompt and example narration with consistent POV in their turn? So to prevent confusing the AI?

hearty bobcat
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good work