#All face card debuffed

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wary fjord
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Okay maybe I’m dumb call me out if so
As much as I notice the importance of an impactful 3rd/up the ante I feel like all face cards debuff is somewhat a blindside
(Perhaps I’m not fully grasping that fact that I am doing gambling in a way with my results)
But besides that I know when I get a great deck engine going (which majority is face cards based to make it to ante 12+)there if physical not any way I could ever beat a all face cards debuffed
Not saying it’s all negative it’s a good challenge which is they whole point of games to me
But if it takes away the point of runs (still maybe I’m missing something) I feel it could thrive on ulitmatums
As in, if it exists past ante 5 or 6 or so that a directors cut be available at any point before

Hey maybe I’m dumb and am missing a point but idk thought I’d throw it out there

crystal herald
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as much as im sure people's first reaction to this would be to say "dont build around facecards lol" or something along those lines, i do actually really agree with you on this one. plant just being a hard counter to facecard builds, often with no counterplay just makes the game less fun and limits your options for winning consistently

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i feel like the strategy could be deepened if a way was implemented to allow facecard reliant builds to play around the plant in a way that doesnt rely on getting a boss reroll or just not playing facecards

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in certain situations, there are things you can do (for example, putting a glass on a non-face card in a photochad build), and i'd love to see that kind of decision-making and foresight be encouraged in other contexts

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cause that kind of thing makes the game and its strategy more fun

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just my 2 cents

ruby hill
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Good players know how to find an answer rather than giving up/hoping they can somehow scrounge enough points

weak talon
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chicot appears on like 1% of runs, voucher is 1 in 16 so if you go up to ante 4 its ~25% of runs, and luchardor has a 0.27% chance of being any card in the shop which is 360 cards on average to find 1. with overstock plus thats 90 rerolls so even if you are searching for luchardor 3 antes ahead you would need on average 10 rerolls per blind. there are definitely runs where the optimal strategy is to play face cards and then the plant shows up before there being any way to disable/reroll it

crystal herald
hasty gulch
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There's an image for this phenomena

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scenic crane
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Y’know, I think plant could get a slight rework so it’s less painful mainly cause it’s a boring boss

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Like maybe “only one of each face card can score” so you can score a single king, queen, and jack. It’d punish over relying on faces while not completely killing them

iron herald
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Plant should mess with other things, like econ imo

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something like Lose $1 when a Face Card is scored or something

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cause all it really does is ruin Face Card builds currently