#Reinforced Joker (Uncommon)

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desert sapphire
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+15 Chips per unique card discarded this round (resets at the end of round, currently +0 Chips)

this joker gives a decent amount of chips at the cost of not allowing deck fixing

pastel thorn
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the brackets/parentheses NEED to be included in the joker description in game, AND it needs to be chips.

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This is 104 mult off rip otherwise :)

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It could be +2 chips as a common- or maybe +3/+4 as an uncommon

desert sapphire
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ok its +4 chips

pastel thorn
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This idea, fundamentally, will never work for mult

desert sapphire
pastel thorn
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A max/base of 208 chips but losing it for deck fixing is fair IMO

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A bit strong given 250 chips is worth -2 handsize

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But I wouldnt complain, as deckfixing is a big part of making your joker lineup work. Especially for higher stake gameplay

cinder heron
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Just get rid of card and just state “suit and rank”

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“Card” doesn’t offer anything here

desert sapphire
pastel thorn
cinder heron
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Yeah

pastel thorn
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It needs something to indicate its each unique combination of suit/rank

desert sapphire
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for this joker, king of spades would be different from king of hearts

cinder heron
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Ah

pastel thorn
cinder heron
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Yeah I gotcha mb

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Trying to think of a better way to word it though, parentheses aren’t the best

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Unique suit and card combination?

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Dunno if I like that word though

desert sapphire
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each unique combination of suits and ranks?

cinder heron
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Maaaaybe

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Only issues balance wise is this essentially just disincentives deck fixing, you get full value immediately

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Like opposite erosion

desert sapphire
desert sapphire
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hmm

cinder heron
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Could lower the value and include enhancements or something maybe?

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Though that would still require adding cards to get minimal extra value

desert sapphire
pastel thorn
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I do think this could work as a common at +2 chips

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Or even uncommon

desert sapphire
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ig ill do common with 2 chips

pastel thorn
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Ice Cream levels of chips with a less harsh/more avoidable loss

desert sapphire
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Reinforced Joker (Common)

cinder heron
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Not a terrible idea but I’m not sure the idea would work too well if it was actually implemented

rapid quiver
cinder heron
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If you mean through modding go ahead, this one seems pretty simple

rapid quiver
pastel thorn
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So honestly if this causes problems/is too good, I see that being a low stake thing- im invested personally

cinder heron
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I think the base idea just kinda doesn’t work with what you’re going for, you’ll inherently have max value and the drawback is “be boring and do nothing to your deck”

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Maybe modify the condition to like discarding unique combinations or something

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Or at least something similar, that way you still have to actually do something

rapid quiver
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riight, card art, since none is mad atm ill use steel joker's

desert sapphire
cinder heron
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That sounds a lot more plausible imo yeah

pastel thorn
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I definitely see what you mean but thats why im so hesitant- its the kinda idea I'd want to playtest before giving full thoughts on

cinder heron
pastel thorn
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Tbf, my way of viewing an effect like this is: "I won't stop deckfixing- but maybe its not worth grabbing that random suit tarot I've found- I prefer the chips"

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Also, wild synergy is always fun

desert sapphire
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idk how this would work with wild lol

rapid quiver
pastel thorn
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Flowerpot

desert sapphire
pastel thorn
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Assume its a wild king It goes "do you have a Spade King? No? This is a Spade king. Yes? Do you have a Heart King"

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Etc rtc

desert sapphire
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so if u have a wild king then u get +20 chips?

pastel thorn
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It can be any suit, but only 1 at a time

desert sapphire
rapid quiver
rapid quiver
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oh yeah i made it btw

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forgot to post it

jade seal
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It's a really fast scaler and really easy to scale too

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Unless I'm misunderstanding the idea

desert sapphire
jade seal
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Ohh I get it now

desert sapphire
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also this joker doesnt take into count enhancements, editions, or seals

jade seal
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It's still super easy to scale even with 4 chips

desert sapphire
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true, but erosion gives +4 mult and allows deck fixing

jade seal
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Yeah at the cost of a hangman

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This gives you 4 chips per discard which is potentially 12 chips a round

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And it goes absolutely insane with Merry Andy

desert sapphire
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the chips reset at the end of the round

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made it more clear

jade seal
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more clear?! That was not there!!!

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hmm. Well even then 15 chips x 10 just from 2 discards is crazy

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And it's a commo

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n

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I have a feeling this is unbalanceable but it's a cool idea and i want to explore it more

desert sapphire
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Reinforced Joker (Uncommon)

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ig its an uncommon now

jade seal
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Sure

desert sapphire
jade seal
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150 chips early that are obtained easily

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I'm trying to format my thoughts here, one second

desert sapphire
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true, only 100 less than stuntman without the -2 handsize

jade seal
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  1. The no deckfixing tradeoff is totally fine
  2. I'd be okay if this joker cared about enhancements. That is, enhancements are no longer easily usable with this joker
jade seal
desert sapphire
jade seal
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YES that is how i wanted to phrase it. That took me way too long to say

desert sapphire
jade seal
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Though i no longer have a clue how to word that

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Yeah

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The current wording isn't great either

desert sapphire
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for now it can just be "unique card" ig

jade seal
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Oh

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That works perfectly