#Observatory Stuff

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unborn vapor
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observatory is kinda bad and i want it to be better without jumping to entire reworks so just 2 ideas for suggestions:

  1. nebula deck loses the -1 consumable slot
    the boost in getting telescope for free is generally not worth the lost consumable slot in most situations, but it's also counterproductive to observatory for pretty obvious reasons

  2. any sort of jokers that can make consumables negative
    observatory sucks cause it uses up consumable slots, and it's also why perkeo is the only reasonable use case for observatory. could honestly just be 1 or 2 jokers that have anything to do with planets and consumable space without specifically being for observatory. while a little scuffed, there's already an example of this with hologram and magic trick with a joker voucher synergy

might think up joker ideas that align with it below this or in another suggestion but these are just my 2 main ideas

wicked phoenix
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Observatory is a reasonably free x2.25 if you don't need scaling or deck fixing, in other words, it's a wonderful way to get over the finish line in ante 8 runs, especially if you hit Violet Vessel.

It's a niche thing, but that doesn't mean it sucks, just that it's not always applicable to every run.

The fact Perkeo Observatory is broken is fun, but it's not what the voucher should be in normal play

steel roost
green ginkgo
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and planet packs only help set up a fool for that

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youd need to find one naturally in shop and one in a fool or 2 fools

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so yes it is terrible as a voucher especially as a tier 2

wicked phoenix
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Blue seal

steel roost
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yeah if you can get a ton of blue seals via certificate, observatory might be viable ig

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but that's for endless

green ginkgo
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also by getting it from blue seals youre no longer getting value from blue seals

wicked phoenix
# steel roost yeah if you can get a ton of blue seals via certificate, observatory might be vi...

You don't need a ton of blue seals, just the ability to draw them, you can get one and copy it with death, etc. You're not guaranteed to get blue seals of course, but if you get one early enough from a standard pack or a spectral pack you can copy it a few times, maybe make it gold or steel or something. Then you just need to be able to draw it at the end of a blind in ante 8.

Again, I'm not saying observatory is good, it's a niche option for scoring to get you past the violet vessel if you need the extra x2.25 to make it across the finish line. It's an additional option if you get unlucky with shop rolls and don't have good enough econ to roll deep enough to make shop luck not matter.

@green ginkgo It doesn't matter that you're not scaling from the planet cards because it's ante 8, and your hand scaling should be smaller than the extra x1.5 mult per card.

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Like, it's nice to have an extra scoring option without upending your build, especially because sometimes you can't (eternals, etc). "Observatory is the weakest T2 voucher" is a take I can understand, but I feel like on average "Illusion" is probably worse; however, "Observatory has no reason to exist" and "there is no reasonable use case for Observatory" are simply untrue.

opaque kernel
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observatory isnt like amazing and it doesnt really show up that often but like its fine