Pokerface

[dusky pebble]

• Uncommon
• $5
• Straights count as every other hand type

[errant bluff]

this certainly sounds interesting

i'm just trying to think of applicable uses

straights work with all of the rare hand type jokers now?

all straights count as straight flushes for seance?

all the common if contains hand type ones would count

to do list becomes free econ

kills obelisk

spare trousers would work

this kinda fits in with pareidolia in a weird sorta way where rather than doing anything by itself it can help other jokers

and though pareidolia is often not that good, it's not really like, a problem

[finite ivy]

i haven't ☝️ or 'd yet because i have no idea what he means by it

[viscid condor]

straights count as
high card
pair
2pair
3oak
flush
full house
4oak
straight(and royal) flush
5oak
flush5
flush house

so basically all the jolly joker-like cards trigger when you play a straight

and cards like todo list always give you money

[gleaming gale]

Sounds really good

This and to do list goes pretty crazy

[left quest]

i think it could be fun
niche like pareidolia but with hand types instead

i dont usually pick up pareidolia but if i have a build that works with it then it's awesome
so i like this

[finite ivy]

ooo

i like niche synergies, pareidolia is one of my favourites lowk, i cant think of anything off the top of my head that goes with this that arent the mult and chip jokers for each hand but even if its just that thats busted already

oh wait, seance would trigger on every straight

some cardsharp synergy

[uncut minnow]

I like this more than i like pareidolia

[finite ivy]

obelisk anti-synergy but thats mid anyways

REALLY good for all the lightning looking cards like the Duo and The Tribe

and obv well, everything that synergies with straights specifically too like runner, since you'd like playing straights more now

oh four fingers and shortcut is real good with this since you'd make straights more often and be able to milk this effect

forgot to mention spare trousers synergy

[viscid condor]

yeah its so versatile to the point where it might be too good

[finite ivy]

maybe it should be rare

[south linden]

TS sounds hella neat

[south linden]

Omg Thorne again

Hi

[viscid condor]

hi!!

[dusky pebble]

Also, some other inspirations

Its pokerface cuz he has a... straight... face...

Ill kms later

And straights are really underpowered in the game so maybe this would help it fit in

[finite maple]

Make ts royal flush and its fine

Also straights are a REALLY RELIABLE STRAT WITH TONS OF JOKERS

[finite ivy]

triggering once every never

seance if it was somehow worse

[finite maple]

This is extremely powerful

Maybe straight flush or higher

[finite ivy]

i mean it has its synergies but not anything that is actually hella busted

[finite maple]

It now works with almost EVERY JOKER

INSTANT SYNERGY MACHINE

(If you have four fingers for ease of use)

[finite ivy]

"every joker" and its just the boring +mult +chips jokers if hand contains poker hand

[finite maple]

And to do list

And obilisk

Words

[finite ivy]

only synergies besides these are the duo, family, order etc, and like seance and cardsharp

[finite ivy]

wouldnt that be anti-synergy

by playing every hand, you always play whatever your most played hand is, so its constantly reset

like pareidolia and ride the bus

[finite maple]

Still tho

You use many jokers by playing a hand that is already really diverse

[finite ivy]

speaking of, pareidolia exists, has similar synergies with every joker that touches face cards, if not better synergies due to sock and buskin and whatnot, photograph which is already pretty good being even better due to using it all the time

[finite maple]

But there is far less face card jokers

Seance is pretty op with this

[finite ivy]

and i also like this because if it existed i might actually pick up the "boring +mult +chips jokers if hand contains poker hand" type jokers, which i never used once, i only got and sold once immediately for the sake of collection

so it would be nice having a joker that lets most of them be viable outside their once every blue moon when i might actually play full house or two pair

[finite maple]

I think to balance and not feed straights more, make it full house

[finite ivy]

hmm yeah that makes sense actually

because unlike the straight ass flushes, full houses can be played without four fingers and shortcut

[south linden]

Idk if rarity is enough to balance it but maybe if it was rare it'd feel more balanced?

[finite maple]

Straight ass flushes

[south linden]

Or this

[finite ivy]

cuzs straights, flushes and full houses and basically every other 5-card hand needs some more stuff, not enough content for it

[south linden]

The deal with straights for me is that it's just the least consistent hand to pull off

[finite ivy]

^^

[south linden]

Unless you have insane hand size and like

3-4 sets of straights with insane deckfixing

[south linden]

Oh neat

You have a good brain

Where was I

Oh ok

[finite ivy]

maybe i understand what cable was saying now, i often forget to take rarity into account and yeah if this was uncommon its busted, but i was kinda judging it as a rare because i gaslighted myself into thinking it was one

[south linden]

Unless you have that, Straights are the hardest to pull off consistently, even full houses are more consistent

[south linden]

This would be a great rare

Anything beneath a legendary that's still strong as fuck is easy to label as rare

[finite ivy]

imo rare needs to be split into several rarities

[south linden]

I think Rare and Epic could be neat?

Though idk how an extra rarity, and above rare at that would feel in balatro

Just fully sure Blueprint and Brainstorm would 100% be epic

[finite ivy]

because anything thats weak or boring is common, stuff thats slightly better and more unique is uncommon, things that are absurdly busted are legendary, so what ends up happening is everything between "mid" and "god tier" ends up in one rarity and thats how you end up with obelisk in the same rarity as blueprint

[south linden]

Ikr 😭

Like ik obelisk doesn't suck, a fella enlightened me that it's just boring to use but strong

[finite ivy]

where you also cant justify blueprint being legendary either because it aint that good, or obelisk being uncommon because it aint that bad

[south linden]

So I'm gonna use campfire as the new "How is ts the same rarity as blueprint?"

[south linden]

I mean

Blueprint is the best non-legendary joker hands down, but it wouldn't be too "Undeserved" if it was legendary

Legendaries are on a tier of their own (literally) though but in an alternative world were, idk, Chicot was instead blueprint, it wouldn't be all that undeserving of a rarity

Same for brainstorm

[finite ivy]

brainstorm though is slightly weaker because its harder to control and work with

[south linden]

Emphasis on "All that undeserving", cuz blueprint is still weaker (somewhat) than the 5 legendaries

[south linden]

Fax, plus positioning for Xmult jokers

Having to put an xmult joker at the very end just to copy it with brainstorm loses on some mult

While blueprint is just goated enough to ignore

[finite ivy]

if Epic was a rarity between rare and legendary, do you think chicot would get renamed and redesigned then demoted to Epic

assuming Blueprint is also in epic

[south linden]

To be fair, yeah

I never had chicot so I can't advocate for it being "The of the Soul card"

[finite ivy]

because its good

but if i got a Soul i'd rather have any of the other 4

[south linden]

BUT having it on the same rarity as Perkeo, better photograph, Canio and sustained sdaling xmult is a bit hmmm

Specially considering how rare a soul is

[south linden]

Ye that

[finite ivy]

now we need a Chicot rarity thats between epic and legendary and it only appears from the Chicot Soul Card which is the soul card but slightly more common to appear and only drops chicot, and the actual soul card no longer has chicot

[south linden]

Peak cinema

Lemme grab the list of rare jokers hold ok

On*

Ye so far I think only the copy boys would be epic

Deal with adding an epic rarity is that there's just 2-3 jokes for that rarity

[finite ivy]

@south linden

the ones with a pink dash next to them i think should be epic, the ones with a pink question mark im not sure

[south linden]

Lemme the seeth

DNA vagabond and Baron should stay rare imo

[finite ivy]

they are kinda weird since they can be both bad and incredibly busted

[south linden]

Baron is the king (hehe, king 😎) of Naninf builds but

[south linden]

Yes that

Requires tons of deckfixing

Agree with blueprint

As for wee, I didn't have a massive wee joker run yet

But I can only assume it scales like crazy with a deck built around it

[finite ivy]

me neither but i keep hearing about how busted it could be so

[south linden]

I think it could stay at rare maybe? Cuz it's like the baron but it's a scaling joker in a way

Mid-term

Invisible joker is a difficult agree

It's a better ankh in form of a joker but that's that

[finite ivy]

like vagabond would usually not trigger but if you have credit card or in debt from the tooth, 500 tarot cards
baron is dogshit 99% of the time but becomes the only viable way to breach endless and can score like crazy
and dna is a non-scoring deckfixing joker, and like every joker of that type, only good periodically

[south linden]

As for driver's license uhhh

[finite ivy]

to me its basically unconditional 3x mult

[south linden]

It's just a slightly harder to activate cavendish?

[finite ivy]

since i usually open up tarot packs, and whenever i dont find stuff that great i almost always find a couple enhancement tarots which i throw onto whatever card i have so there is barely a run where i saw this and didn't take it because its basically cavendish if it was easy to get

[south linden]

Back hold on

Horrible time to be called

[south linden]

But that's more so a Cavendish thing I don't really understand

I think it's common cuz of the conditional for it to even show up?

[finite ivy]

lowk i might demote burnt joker from epic, back to uncommon

cuz how is burnt joker a rare but astronomer an uncommon

im checking the uncommon rarity rn its lowk even worse

same rarity btw

when hanging chad is common btw

[south linden]

Back again

[south linden]

And agree with brainstorm too

[viscid condor]

i just realised

your pfp is cherie

i might be a bit stupid

[viscid condor]

i mean the uses of these jokers are different

you dont need a specific set up for throwback

you need a setup for s&b and chad

[gleaming gale]

Would playing a straight count towards the amount of other hands you've played

Cause like

Crazy supernova synergy

[fathom wharf]

one deterministically generates a free level depending on what you discard and the other one makes random planets from the shop free?

and i don't think the game needs rarity bloat

[errant bluff]

realistically the only "broken" thing with this could be seance but seance is hardly ever used compared to something like sixth sense, and this combo needs two uncommon jokers so i think it's balanced out enough

i'm surprised it got five 's without anyone saying anything though

[fathom wharf]

the biggest highlights it has is being able to combo with the xmult rares

[errant bluff]

oh def yeah

[fathom wharf]

pants isn't a consideration unless you're using it and runner together

which is a duo that already works well enough without it

[errant bluff]

you just need to actually hit those rare jokers, and the straight one is kind of already a given lol

the ever speculative pokerface

[fathom wharf]

most additive scaling jokers don't matter with this because saturn has the same stats as mars

[errant bluff]

yeah lowkey i forgot that

[fathom wharf]

it's like oops all 6s in a sense

[errant bluff]

mhm

[fathom wharf]

or a somewhat less volatile pareidolia

[fathom wharf]

actually this would be pretty incredible for runner and superpos

wait nvm i forgot the joker's description

[errant bluff]

play the straight to play a straight

[fathom wharf]

my brain really told me it was the inverse

[errant bluff]

or actually

would it do it twice since you're also playing a straight flush

or is runner worded in a different way

[errant bluff]

oh yeah when you mean "Straight count as every other hand type" would it be more like "When played hand contains a Straight it counts as every other hand type"?

just so straight flushes work with it

[fathom wharf]

i mean strushes already contain a straight

[south linden]

Yup

And my boyfriend's is Crush

[errant bluff]

yeah but there's always the wording to account for

like runner uses "contains a straight" instead of "is a straight" because technically straights and straight flushes aren't the same, so you wouldn't be able to scale it with straight flushes

[little dawn]

gg

This is crazy good, isn't it? Am i crazy?

[errant bluff]

it's useful with seance and all the rare Xmult "if hand contains hand type" jokers

other than those in specific, kinda just ehh

[little dawn]

It's not even crazy with seance

Hmm i suppose you're right

Playing a straight will also remove all your money no matter what on the ox

You also get one hand on the eye

[finite maple]

But other than 2-3 boss blinds, it’s synergy power is wild

[fathom wharf]

it has a similar amount of usecases as oops all 6s