#black deck

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rugged crown
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I was thinking that a fun buff to the black deck would be to increase the chance of negative jokers to appear in the shop. I like the idea that the black deck is hard to get going but pops off hard once you fill out all the joker slots, and so I think making more negitive jokers appear would add to the feeling of having more joker slots and capping higher, as well as make it slightly easier early game, so you dont have to worry about commiting as hard to a joker with a debuff on it/you dont want early because it doesnt take up a joker slot.

strong fossil
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well more negatives might actually nerf black deck

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negatives are very costly and in a deck where econ early is that bad you wouldnt want to buy jokers for a fortune

rugged crown
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Wait negitive jokers cost more?

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I dont really know the price of all the cards

brave nimbus
rugged crown
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Oh wow

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Okay my bad

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I just kinda like the idea of increasing the cap harder

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and thought negitives were a good way to do that

rancid thistle
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maybe a secondary effect would be that negatives are also cheaper

brave nimbus
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In my opinion, the black deck should simply give -1 hand after 4 ante (maybe lower). Best simple buff

rancid thistle
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maybe adding like +2 or +3 instead of +5

rugged crown
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Like to me the identity of the black deck IS that its hard to get off the ground, but pops off HARD

brave nimbus
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I like the idea of increasing the negative chance, because Hone doesn't do it.

rugged crown
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I want to lean into that by somehow finding a way to increase the scale of the pop off, while slightly touching up the ability to get the run going

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I really liked negitive as a way to do that, because A) More joker slots increases the pop off, which is what the black deck wants
B) Negitive jokers arent as much as a commitment as a normal joker, so in the beginning of the run, when your just trying to buy jokers to keep yourself afloat, you can afford to buy some permenant joker or a joker you wouldn't normally want because it doesnt eat into your total joker slots

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But yeah them costing more money kinda sucks

brave nimbus
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Your idea gave me an interesting idea. Black deck: Negative cards appear 2X more often. Starts with Ectoplasm (And also permament rework Ectoplasm effect with -1 hand)

rugged crown
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Reminder as to what ectoplasam does?

brave nimbus
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Add Negative to a random Joker, -1 hand size

rugged crown
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Ooooh

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I like it

calm fossil
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hand size decrease scales per ectoplasm used this run

near gulch
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start with a jumbo buffoon pack or something idk

remote nacelle
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ngl 2x isnt all that much negatives are rly rare qwq

brave nimbus
remote nacelle
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qwq