Infinity deck

[plain needle]

Cards in your deck are a probability instead of a number.
You have infinite cards in your deck.
Destroying a card will have the following effects
Numerator - 1 for destroyed card
Denominator - 1 for all cards
Adding/duplicating a card will have these effects:
Numerator + 1 for added card
Denominator + 1 for all cards

Note: Cards with different seals, enhancements, editions will have their own seperate probability
Probability of each card at the start of run is 1 in 52

[hardy comet]

How does this work with chips scaling on cards with hiker?

[steady goblet]

the real question is how is this not too complex to put on the deck selection screen

you cant explain this in one sentence like plasmas effect

[plain needle]

Uhh prolly maybe the 1st line is enough?

Plasma doesnt go into similar detail like score = ((chips + mult)/2)^2

[plain needle]

Probably all cards from that specific probability get boosted

And adding enhancements / editions / seals when multiple of a similar type of card exist can be treated as numerator - 1 for previous card, 1/total probabilities for new card

[sweet lynx]

More importantly how does blue joker work with this

Its a very modded idea but I kind of like it

[plain needle]

Maybe chips = denominator

+2 would feel too good because then chips = 2 *denominator for all hands

[sweet lynx]

???

[plain needle]

A better way to put this is:

Its a normal deck, but when cards are drawn, they do not get over, you can draw them again and again

So, deck size can still change

And mathematically, the deck size = denominator

(Also is it possible to change the tag to mechanics since everyone is telling me to do it?)

[pine charm]

theres an easier way to do this

[steady goblet]

gear reaction means feels too modded

[pine charm]

cards are returned to deck after play or discard

[calm canyon]

As a loop or reshuffle?

[plain needle]

Thats slightly differe t

[clear sundial]

does this make it impossible for the deck to run out?

[spiral moth]

shuffle in presumably

[sweet lynx]

Thats a reaction that mesns it feels too modded not bad but modded

[plain needle]

Yes

[calm canyon]

So if I interpret this right, adding one Ace of Spades to my deck means that I have a 2 in 53 chance to conjure an Ace of Spades as opposed to a 1 in 52 chance?

[plain needle]

Yes

[sweet lynx]

I mean the thing the selling point is drawing the same card despite having only 1 copy

[spiral moth]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1373796694738731018 so its like this then

[plain needle]

Thats kinda the point of the deck??

[sweet lynx]

Thats what I literally said

[calm canyon]

And if I discard 5 cards, there's a (2 in 53) ^ 5 chance I draw 5 Aces of Spades?

[clear sundial]

well then what's stopping you from getting a red seal polychrome steel king to be the only card in the deck and then removing everything else, thereby duplicating that one card an infinite number of times.

[plain needle]

Yep

[calm canyon]

I get it now

[plain needle]

Nothing, and that is the point of the deck

[steady goblet]

its easier to describe this like exchanging your limited deck for a pool of cards you can draw infinite of

[plain needle]

Its more of a deckfixing helper deck, like a brother to abandoned deck

[calm canyon]

Only change I would make is preventing the numerator from going to 0, but other than that this would be a fascinating deck to try

[plain needle]

If im being honest, i could easily write it simpler, but writing it mathematically makes people confused and attracts attention to the idea

[clear sundial]

i like the idea, i think it would possibly run more balanced to have cards still leave the deck while not changing the probabilities.

even more so to just reshuffle played cards. it seemslike that has the same result with less complex math

[plain needle]

Reshuffling played cards however aint the same tho

[clear sundial]

explain?

[steady goblet]

cards drawn are reshuffled into the deck would be fine enough way to write this i think?

that way you dont remove the interesting aspect of redrawing the same card multiple times

[clear sundial]

and discarding still deckfixes

[plain needle]

You have one ace of spade in hand, no matter how much u discard, you cant get two so long as you have only one in deck, however, in my scenario, you can draw 5 ace of spades while having only one "copy"

[plain needle]

I think you mean copies of drawn cards are reshuffled into deck

[clear sundial]

i think this makes it too easy to deckfix. most of the other decls with this sort of effectiveness also have a significant drawback of some sort.

[plain needle]

Its kinda similar to normal decks, since you have like a 1 in 52^5 chance of that happening, so you still have to deckfix it upto probably a good 1 in 5 until you can draw flush fives

[spiral moth]

I honestly think the easiest way to phrase this is "Cards can be drawn multiple times"

[plain needle]

Yeah

[calm canyon]

Perfect to write on the tin, but the probability math can stay "behind the curtain", so to speak

[clear sundial]

this actually gives me a very good idea

[plain needle]

^^

[spiral moth]

I honestly want to try modding this in but it'd probably be a pain

Sounds cool (though technically a repost, it's from so long ago so)

[restive lance]

I think this deck can just be worded as "Drawn cards are copied from deck instead of being taken from deck"

[spiral moth]

then you can't deckfix because they're just copies

[restive lance]

Mmm good point

[pine charm]

make it only during blinds

[restive lance]

But then tarot cards don't work during the blind

[pine charm]

oh youre right

[restive lance]

How about "Whenever a card is drawn to your hand, add a copy to your deck until end of round"

[pine charm]

i guess

[sweet lynx]

Very close to DNA wording so might make it sound like it trigge rs hologram

[shell leaf]

what about "Drawn cards are not removed from deck"

[plain needle]

Honestly, unfortunately, this idea definitely won't get added, since it requires a lot of extra coding, and it probably doesnt stand out much from the other suggestions

[sweet lynx]

Literally none will get added

Thunk has said so

[plain needle]

Bruh then why we all struggling?💀💀

[sweet lynx]

Its fun

Also you could get it into a mod

But mostly because its fun