#Hoyo jokers - a genshin and hsr inspired content mod

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fleet mango
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A mod that adds some jokers based on genshin/hsr characters decided purely by whatever I can think of as neat ideas. They're designed to feel mostly in-line with vanilla content, while still doing my best to represent the characters' kits in some way.

It's still in development, by which I mean I add jokers whenever I feel like it with no real idea of what a "full release" would look like. (Also the game randomly decides whether it wants to crash after no changes to a joker's code so I'm trying to fix that as I play with it more).

Currently includes:

  • 9 Common Jokers
  • 12 Uncommon Jokers
  • 8 Rare Jokers
  • 3 Legendary Jokers

If you have any ideas for character-effect combinations feel free to share.

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Hoyo jokers - a genshin and hsr inspired content mod

languid bane
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So this are not reskin there actual new Jokers?

fleet mango
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yes they have new effects

languid bane
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Hell yay!! Time to download this

languid bane
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Dude excellent mod, didn't crash and the joker were 10/10

fleet mango
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Oh wow thanks. Also glad that most of the crashes seem to be gone

languid bane
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Ya and you have some great ideas with Jokers I hope to see more of your mods

fleet mango
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These are some of the ideas I have to maybe make next

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as for other mods, rn I only have a semi-finished texture pack and a mod with 3 random jokers I haven't posted anywhere

fleet mango
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Update: added 3 new jokers (Chevreuse, Mualani and Cerydra), and changed the former Venti card to be Jahoda instead because it fits the kit better imo (also I removed the 2 per round limit). I'll see if I re-use the venti sprite for somethign else later.
https://github.com/Odd-owl/GI-HSR-jokers

GitHub

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languid bane
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Oh new updates I got try it

wild basin
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Uhm
When I used Chevreuse Joker, my game got crashed
Btw I love your mod so much

fleet mango
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Oh that’s not supposed to happen.
Do you have a screenshot of the crash message? And/or what your setup and hand were? I can look into it later today.

wild basin
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Uhm... I forgot to take a screenshot

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Sorry about that

fleet mango
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oh I already found it, it was a really simple thing and I have no idea why it was even like that in the first place.

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you can either redownload the whole thing, or manually just remove
'and (to_big(card.ability.extra.mult) > to_big(0))'
on line 635 of the Main.lua file if you don't want to replace everything again

wild basin
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Okay

wild basin
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My tier list (just my opinion)

fleet mango
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ah I assume you found venti's card in the image file. That is because I originally had him with the effect of what Jahoda currently does, just because I felt like the effect fit her kit pretty well, so Venti is in purgatory for a bit until he gets a new effect. He might get "On the first hand of the round, convert all played/scoring card to the suit of the first card" which I've had in mind and could fit basically any anemo character

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Other than that, I think Escoffier and Tribbie are really good personally.
Tribbie is just a better chips generator than any of the common hand jokers, and the fact that she can just give +125 consistently as soon as you pick her up just makes her really good earlygame.
Escoffier I found could also scale pretty well if you focus on her 2 suits enough. Though that run was an earlier version where she could also gain +1 by just playing a single card, so maybe that nerf hit a little hard. I still think she can be a good source of scaling +mult though

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Nilou I'd like to think has good potential, but most of the times I've encountered her I just decided to skip because the requirements are just pretty hard to work with. idk if just buffing the scaling would do anything, or that she needs something different to change

fleet mango
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From the highest ranking ones, I'd agree Durin is a little too strong and probably will be nerfed to $3 and 2.5X mult, or $2 and keep it 3X. currently he just does 2 different things that would both be pretty good on their own already.

Furina can be really insane, but the way she currently is with high initial cost, -$2 per hand, and the slow initial scaling, I've had situations where I couldn't sustain the econ and had to drop her, which is where I'd like to have her a a joker that can pay off really well, but can be dangerous to pick up unprepared.

Hyacine is also really good, but it's hard to finetune her numbers with how she works, and with an average amount of econ I don't think her per-round payoff is so high that it badly needs a nerf (Also I have a bit of bias so I'm not entirely against Hyacine being a strong card)

fleet mango
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Do you have any balance/rework suggestions and/or new card ideas that could be interesting?

wild basin
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For me, just keep Durin's effect and slightly buff Escoffier like changing from +1/+2/+2/+3 Mult to +2/+3/+4/+5 Mult

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And you are right, preparing something like Neuvillette is essential for Furina

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For Hyacine, if you have Liquidation Voucher and Blueprint/ Brainstorm, just buy $1 tarots or planets then sell them

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The more Blueprint/ Brainstorm you have, the more money you will earn

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I forgot to take a screenshot that I had Negative Hyacine and 3 Blueprints

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Btw I love your mod so much

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Keep going~

fleet mango
fleet mango
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I should have time for more during christmas break, as long as I can think of enough new effects.

wild basin
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Cool

fleet mango
wild basin
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Oh

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Please no

fleet mango
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A lot of econ jokers are made incompatible, though Hyacine isn’t an end of round effect so logically it should be able to work.

wild basin
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Also it will be great if you make new boss blind like Flame Reaver, Lygus, Dottore II,... and add Occurrences/ Curios from Divergent Universe

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Phainon and Columbina should be Legendary Jokers ig

fleet mango
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I was considering artifact sets already.
Some occurrences or curios could probably work really well as consumables too

wild basin
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:0

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Ruan Mei I gains $2000 dream

fleet mango
wild basin
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I think you can make Phainon like All Jokers give x2 Mult?

fleet mango
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Just like Baseball card but for everything?

wild basin
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Maybe...

fleet mango
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wait isn’t that exactly what Waluigi does in the Cryptid mod?

fleet mango
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Yeah

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Never heard of it?

wild basin
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No...

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I only know Paperback mod

fleet mango
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It’s like the biggest, most well-known mod that adds a ton of jokers, decks, effects that are intentionally really broken

hushed creek
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zzz content when?

wild basin
fleet mango
hushed creek
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fair enough

fleet mango
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What if I only add a soul hounds joker.
On the first hand/discard, destroy all cards of the most common suit in that hand.

fleet mango
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Like a less extreme version of madness, he could work similarly to cipher where it only activates if he’s in the first joker slot.

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Just not sure in what way his scoring should increase. Could be like a flat X2 increase, or combine it with your idea where every debuffed joker would give a separate X2 mult. Probaly depends on whether I can figure out the code for triggering an effect off of a debuffed joker “triggering”

wild basin
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That's great

fleet mango
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With the right numbers it could even work as a legendary, I’m just personally reluctant to make legendary jokers because I feel like it makes them so rare you won’t get to play with them that often.

wild basin
wild basin
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Hmm
How about make Aventurine that sell him to get Negative Oops! All 6s Joker?

fleet mango
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hm could work

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though it feels a little weird to have a joker whose sole purpose is to give a different joker

fleet mango
fleet mango
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also Columbina

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might be a little too strong through but I can rearrange the levels

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logically it should just be the most played hand on normal blinds, all hands on boss blind, but I wanted it to encourage different hand types a bit more, so the bonus being 3 times as high as the other hands is a bit counterproductive

wild basin
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It would be great if you use Phainon's sticker to make a legendary card

fleet mango
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Phainon's sticker?

wild basin
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Uhm

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Just like other legendary jokers having their animation...
My english is kinda bad

fleet mango
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oh just like having a little phainon face like the other legendaries

wild basin
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Yes

fleet mango
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I could, but I kinda liked the idea of having these legendaries just be full art cards without the joker text or border, especially since the other cards already don't follow quite the same style as basegame

wild basin
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Sad

wild basin
fleet mango
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ok current version is every hand on small and big blind, only the most played hand on boss blind, and she is blueprintable.

wild basin
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So creepy but fine lol

fleet mango
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evil furina be like: "don't strike a pose..."

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but yeah the negative and polychrome filters were not made for these sprites

hushed creek
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Evil Furina just drowns you for striking a pose /joke

wild basin
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Add Sparxie as Legendary Joker lol

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Destroy the leftmost joker then add a random Negative Rare Joker

fleet mango
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that's pretty funny

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what if it's just Aha THEMself and it destroys a random joker

wild basin
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Tha's rng lol

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But fine

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So the next update has 5 jokers ig

fleet mango
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Though I could maybe make it a random non-negative joker so it won’t cancel out its own effect after a while

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It’s just a little insane if you could get a random common as fodder in exchange for unlimited negatives and still have room for other jokers of your choice

fleet mango
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Also a friend wanted me to add sucrose but I didn’t have anything distinctive from the other anemos I could think of, so she’s replacing kazuha for now.

wild basin
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Oh

hushed creek
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okay but when do we get Zhao?~

fleet mango
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I don’t even know what she does 😭

hushed creek
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fleet mango
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New update is out.
Added 3 legendary jokers, a Hu Tao, an Aventurine, new Venti, and there's some balance changes and fixes.
(Also it's on Nexus now for anyone who cares)

wild basin
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Sad but funny

wild basin
fleet mango
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Yeah I ended up making it a bit more complicated with the wording because it kind of had an issue its power level was almost completely static throughout the whole game.
Like without negatives it would give X12 on round 1 and X12 on round 48

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And it’s possible to still scale through scoring off of pure planet scaling and enhanced cards, which was was the idea, having your other joker slots be econ or utility jokers to help you long-term. But for a legendary it felt pretty bad it was so hard to properly scale with.

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Now assuming you have 5 jokers at all times, it’s X2 on Ante 1, the original X12 on Ante 6, and X16 on Ante 8

wild basin
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Should make a deck that start with Aha Joker

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Also this should be Sparxie because uhh... making an aeon is kinda strange ig

fleet mango
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I could put an Aha challenge, that might feel a little more fitting than an entire deck for the purpose of giving one joker.

fleet mango
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I could think of a different Sparxie effect, maybe something with sinking a ton of “skill points”.

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Like uhh, needing to waste hands (SP) to stack her, so something like gain X0.5 mult for every high card played this round.

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Or to make it more like wasting them, maybe X0.75 for every hand/discard with only one card.

wild basin
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Hmm

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I agree

wild basin
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How about gains x0.5 mult for each card discarded and resets after beating boss blind

fleet mango
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That would scale kind of insanely fast wouldn’t it? 3 discards of 5 cards per blind and you’re at X22.5 on the final hand.

wild basin
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Or just x0.25 Mult?

fleet mango
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I kinda liked the tradeoff of having to "waste" your resources to stack it faster, also makes it feel more like you're dumping a bunch of SP into one big attack

red egret
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is there a place to link a crash report for this mod?

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I'm just using a deck skin mod plus this and it breaks ;n;

fleet mango
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Do you have a screenshot of the crash screen?
And do both of the mods work separately if you disable the other one? There’s basically nothing that it does related to skins so I wouldn’t know where there could be a conflict.

red egret
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without the other mod

fleet mango
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oh huh, I thought I had fixed all instances of this issue, and I've played with the Durin card many times since doing so, I'll go have a look at it

red egret
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nilou causes the same thing btw

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I can try to get an error report

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great mod btw... you've inspired my partner and I to think of other jokers we'd add if we were smart enough to mod XD

fleet mango
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hm trying it out myself I don't get the error, even though the faulty "to_big" function is still there.
I'll try to just remove it everywhere and see if it still just works fine without it.

fleet mango
red egret
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I have one for space narwhal as a legendary, but I don't know how easy it'd be to code.

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basically it puts a blue seal on a card (kinda like executive seal so it spawns it in out of nowhere) but now playing a blue seal would give a negative planet of that hand played

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not sure if that's codable or not but I thought it played into the whole theming around blackholes (the spectral card that levels all hands)

fleet mango
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uh I think that should be doable

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as long as there's a variable to check for a card's current seal (which is almost certainly possible) then it can work

red egret
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that'd be really awesome!

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and ummm... we might be making a google doc if you want it in the future xD

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here's ideas we had, feel free to tweak numbers and such as we only basically understand balance

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btw she specifically said she's glad Jahoda was included in the mod^ ^

fleet mango
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alright all the crashes caused by this same error should be fixed now

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(also I may have included a new joker that I was working on locally and I committed together with the fixes so W new content update I guess)

red egret
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nice! is it on nexus? or here somewhere?

fleet mango
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oh I didn't push the update to nexus that's right

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it's either on github or the balatro mod manager

red egret
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gotcha thank you!

fleet mango
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if you can confirm that the new version actually fixes the crashes and doesn't cause a new one, then I'll go update the nexus one as well

red egret
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maybe pin the github here btw

fleet mango
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it's at the top of the thread

red egret
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I just mean pin the message of the link lol

fleet mango
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and there should be a jump to top button in discord, which is basically a pin

red egret
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fair

fleet mango
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I also can't actually pin messages myself so that's also a factor

red egret
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Nilou works!

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ty!

fleet mango
# red egret

also by the way, looks like your sucrose has some crazy synergy with my own sucrose

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we also had basically the same concept so you know it's good

red egret
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can't react to the message cause discord rules lol. nice!

fleet mango
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I have 2 versions of Sparxie and idk which I prefer. The second one incorporates an extra apsect of her kit, but it makes the card a lot less simple and the wording becomes a lot more wordy (and I still don't think this wording is great because 4 per round limit should only apply to the hand/discard effect and not the increased Mult gain, which currently it doesn't specify)

wild basin
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You can make Qingque for the second one

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These 2 versions sounds interesting

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So... make the first one for Sparxie and the second for Qingque

half kraken
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It seems on my side of things, the atlas for the Jokers page is a bit wonky right now...

fleet mango
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if you turn on pixel smoothing it'll fix it for now

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(and it will overall make the sprites look better for this mod because they don't have normal pixel size)

fleet mango
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Ok I found a weird inconsistency that the 2x version is 1 pixel off on the dimensions, which makes the half-sized version weird as well

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But that part that doesn’t make sense is that the 2x spritesheet is normal, even though it should suffer from the same issue

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Fixing it would suck too, but I’ll have a better look at it when I’m back from work

fleet mango
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@half kraken ok I still don't entirely understand what exactly went wrong because the way the error looked doesn't make sense, but I think I fixed it. You can either manually replace the assets/1x/joker.png file with this one or redownload the whole mod

fleet mango
# wild basin You can make Qingque for the second one

Maybe I could, but this implementation is very specifically tuned to how Sparxie's skill works so it fits her better I think, I'm just unsure whether it's a bit too complicated of a description.
QQ could probably have a similar concept but work a bit differently, since she doesn't really scale linearly with the amount of SP used, or regenerate any back.

fleet mango
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This is probably the most clear and concise I can make it

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also considering to remove the 4 per round limit and instead just make it so only 1 Sparxie can give the +1 hand/discard at a time

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but then I'd need to make the 1 in 4 like a fixed 25% chance so you can go infinite with 2 oops all sixes

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Balancing and preventing game breaks really is a lot more difficult when you need to account for multiple copies of the same joker

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Phainon was also a nightmare to debug for having mutiple at once

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(Ignore the fact that you can currently still go infinite if you have 5 copies of Yanfei)

half kraken
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if I had a nickel for every Character Joker based on a character voiced by Lizzie Freeman that can go infinite, I'd have three nickels.

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(The third is Pomni from Lucky Rabbit, by the way)

fleet mango
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I guessed Pomni was one of them but I kinda forgot she voices Sparkle too

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oh you are still limited by the amount of cards in your deck actually

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but that's still an obscene amount of hands to play

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especially with Sparkle where the entire point is to only use 1 card at a time

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that's just the part where I have to ask myself "Is it really that big of a deal if people can do crazy things in specific rare setups playing modded balatro?"

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with 5 duplicate blueprints and a burglar you already get more than 20 hands in a round which is more than enough to play the entire deck in most cases so it's not that insane

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that being said Sparxie with 2 oops all sixes just having infinite hands is a little too much for too little effort

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I just have to choose between oops all sixes synergy or a higher potential cap and less words in the description

fleet mango
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Probably just going to keep it at this. You can't increase the odds to 100%, and I shouldn't need to add the "one Sparxie per hand" clause in the description because you can only restore something once logically anyway.
It's still possible to go really far if you have a lot of copies, but having 4+ Sparkles is a lot harder than 2 sixes, and it will never be fully 100% consistent so i think it's fine

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It's a sad loss for Oops all sixes nation (me), but there already are 2 new chance jokers and I can probably make some thing for it with QQ instead

fleet mango
# red egret

The exact conditions in the spreadsheet seemed a little strong to get a legendary for playing a four of a kind, but I liked the idea of Albedo being able to synthesise a soul, so I ended up with this. (the [ ] and [X] signs are checkmarks for what you're played so far)

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Keeping the ability to make normal judgements would nice too, but I'm not sure what trigger exactly would make sense

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a judgement for potentially every hand played might be a lot

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maybe if you've played at least one by the end of the round, it creates a judgement

fleet mango
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@red egret do you still have the full version of that excel sheet with ideas somewhere? I might have some time to do more soon but my own notes are running a little low.

fleet mango
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thanks!

wild basin
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My tierlist (just my opinion)

wild basin
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Some suggestions:
Jing Yuan Joker (I want to sleep)
x3 Mult if poker hand is a straight or higher, x2 Mult if poker hand is 3 of kind or lower (Maximum is x10 Mult and resets every round)

Ashveil Joker (The Finale of A Lie)
After playing a poker hand, x1.5 Mult for each Joker is triggered

Yao Guang Joker (Beyond Weal and Woe)
All Tarots cards and Celestial Packs are free
-1 consumable slot

Hysilens Joker (All for Ave Imperator)
Every 4th scored hand, +50 chips if the 4th scoring card is 10 or lower,
+20 Mult if the 4th scoring card is Jack or higher

Anaxa Joker (HAHAHAHAHA)
Retrigger all cards that having seal

Evernight Joker (Somebody Once Told Me)
This joker +3 Mult for each 7 is played

fleet mango
# wild basin Some suggestions: Jing Yuan Joker (I want to sleep) x3 Mult if poker hand is a s...

Hm I like the idea with Jing Yuan, exact implementation could vary but that's a decent way to get lightning lord stacks.
Yao Guang seems pretty cool as a counterpart to astronomer.
Anaxa is not as closely linked to his kit, but I do like Anaxa and retrigger jokers so I like it.
Also for Evernight I've had a concept for months already to have something with spawning a Evey card and being able to sell or destroy it for scoring, but I've been stuck on the implementation the entire time.

wild basin
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Sad

wild basin
# wild basin Some suggestions: Jing Yuan Joker (I want to sleep) x3 Mult if poker hand is a s...

Mydei (Throne of Bones)
If the scroing hand does’t reach the blind’s score, this joker gains +10 Mult and resets after defeating boss blind

Jade (Vow of the Deep)
X5 Mult when dicards only 8 cards

Topaz (Turn a Profit!)
1 in 4 chance double money that you received

Boothill (Dust Devil)
x3 Mult when scroing but X2 blind’s score requirement

Sparkle (Parallax Truth)
Steel card is gold card and gold card is steel card

Sampo (Big Surprise)
After defeating boss blind, gains 2 The Fool

supple trout
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im having trouble with the dependencies

fleet mango
fleet mango
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Ok I took a look at the issue based on the message you sent in the help channel earlier.

The dependency listing is something you could fix locally, but I also just pushed a new update that fixes this issue, and also includes some new content updates I've been sitting on for a while and never published:

  • Sparxie has been updated to her new mechanics and got a name change to an actual voiceline she has
  • Venti got buffed to include non-scoring cards
  • Added cards for Albedo, Freminet, and Iansan. Based on some ideas from Recital's spreadsheet when I had time to work on stuff a few weeks ago.
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Also small apologies for the lack of updates lately, I want to add more things but I haven't found many great opportunities between vacation, school project that I'm procrastinating, and playing silksong or keeping up with gachas when I do give myself some free time.

wild basin
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Sad...

wild basin
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Hope some of my ideas will be in your mod

fleet mango
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Your Yao Guang idea is on the list with probably the exact implementation (assuming you meant arcana packs).
Jing Yuan and Anaxagoras I also like the idea of so I'll play around with numbers and specifics to see what's fun.
Boothill's duel thing also seems cool, Increasing both score and blind requirement at the same seems a little counterproductive though since that just means a X1.5 boost basically, but I'm thinking it could be X4 or X5 mult, but you use 2 hands and discards per play so it's like a glass cannon build.
Sampo is also a relatively simple idea that makes sense and would be good.

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I was also thinking of an idea for the first boss blind being Dottore. It could be that if one hand scores more than e.g. 75% of the requirement he could either set your money to 0 or straight up revert your score back because of his mechanic where he can heal back high single instances of damage in the weekly boss.

supple trout
fleet mango
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yes, I saw your help message from earlier. I didn't know smods had an update that made that dependency listing not work anymore, but I just fixed that so you should be able to update it via BMM for the fix alongside the bit of extra content

supple trout
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oh thank you, i love genshin and know one thing or 2 of starrail so im excited to see the mod ^^

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be me
instal the mod
skip first blind on the first run with the mod to get an mega arcane pack
it has a legendary joker
its columbina
lmao

fleet mango
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well that's convenient

supple trout
wild basin
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:0

fleet mango
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I really need to add a Sandrone card that synergizes with having a lot of different hand levels for the Yuri synergy

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but I don't want to make one before knowing even anything about her kit or having a splash art available

supple trout
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im back, i had to lunch

supple trout
supple trout
fleet mango
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Hmm interesting, so kind of like a synergy by complementing each other through affecting different parts of your scaling

supple trout
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yup

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also just finish that run

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17 levels on each hand lmao

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also i just turn one of the sones cards kachina gave me into glass and well, something is off...

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in the deck is a the same next to it since i use death later but its funny on the part of chosing

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nevermind, i select small bind and the hand come like this, i know is a 9 of spades but the texture is blank

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aaaand i broke the funny card, so sad

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I42R6B64
here is the seed btw, just lost

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also i have a broken idea for hutao, insted of 1.75xmult on the last 2 hands, she could scale on each hand, like she starts with 1xmult, the next hand the mult increases a bit, how does this sound?

supple trout
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and maybe nerf neuvilet to take 15$ insted of 14$

fleet mango
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supple trout
supple trout
fleet mango
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I'm pretty sure cards from marble joker can be given a different enhancement and it will reveal the random regular card it is.

supple trout
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okay, if i came up with ideas for a character i comet here on this tread right?

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im gona take this as an yes, just want to make sure im not oversteping with those sugestions

supple trout
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oh i came up with some strange interaction
on the hook boss blind if kachina make a stone card there is a chance that the hook take it before scoring, the card will appear face down, it dont count on the total of the hand played

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oh its worst...

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this bug soft lock my run, i cant play any hand and the stone card facing down dont leave the screen

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i was on ante 7 🙁

fleet mango
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Oh that’s not good

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I already had a bad feeling about needing to edit the contents of a hand in the middle of the scoring phase and it looks like it wasn’t misplaced.

supple trout
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its okay, just doing my part, reporting any issue i come across ^^

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do you want any other detail about this one? the run is still active here

fleet mango
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I think I know enough to be able to replicate the issue, since they’re pretty special edge cases I just didn’t test for.
It’s just a matter of finding what part of the code actually causes it and finding a fix, which just takes some dev time I’m not sure when I’ll have that.

cinder dome
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Just got here from a post on Instagram about this mod, where can I see the list of all Joker abilities of this mod?

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I have never touched mods in my entire life but I'm interested to look at these

fleet mango
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uhh I don't really have a list of all of them, all the descriptions are in the code file but that's hard to read through, and you can view them all in the joker catalog but that requires installing and running it

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I've wanted to make a page about this mode on the balatro mod wiki though, so I could try looking into that sometime as my next objective, I should have some time in the next week or so

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also out of curiosity, could you link the Instagram post you found this from? I'd like to see it

fleet mango
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oh neat

cinder dome
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Maybe some day next weekS I'll try to learn how to install and play mods ✌🏻

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Yeayeyaea

fleet mango
cinder dome
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"oh this just looks like a weird but slightly better golden joker cause why would this steal 14$....

OHHHHH Furina synergy because THEY DO WORK TOGETHER IN GENSHIN COMBAT"

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how could I forget it

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these two were like the last two main characters I used before I soft quit Genshin lol

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my knowledge of Genshin kit is limited to what, 4.3?

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I've thought of Nahida

||Applies the property (suit and number) of the first played card in scoring to the rest of the scoring cards. Since her gimmick is a chain reaction, or something like that||

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oooooh thats pretty strong for a common

my idea for Hu Tao before seeing this and after seeing the Instagram post is|| x0.2 Mult for every 1$ under 25$ after I saw the Furina gold mechanics, and now that i think about it, it's also because she's well known to be Zhongli's personal wallet as a meme lol||