infinity ante

[fresh geyser]

5I2A9TS8

[drifting crow]

Tut?

[fresh geyser]

mean

?

[mighty escarp]

Maybe he means tutor

[arctic stump]

he means tutorial, since it's obviously not just first ante

like which pack is perkeo in, do you have to rolldown for blueprint, steps to get 45 hand size

[craggy plover]

First blind joke pack has the neg bp

[last wasp]

Honestly I wish I could remember the start of this better but you could do the bean glitch or you could just do perkeo and observatory things by like ante 4-5 and there's a nat negative DNA way later

[plucky frigate]

Fun seed. Should be able to take it to the end.

[plucky frigate]

Got it.
Buffoon Pack for Blueprint and then Spectral for Ankh in ante 1.
Spectral Pack for Perkeo in Ante 2. Dont forget the Voucher!
Grab the High Priestess in Ante 3 to start making Pluto cards right away.
Jumbo pack in Ante 4 for Red Seal Queen of Spades
Ante 5 Voucher for easy wins with all the Pluto cards
Grab a Showman at some point and grab blueprints.
Save money for Ante 23 Baron
Grab a mine and DNA after.
Copy Perkeo when hitting Next. Then copy DNA to make copies of Kings, then 2 copies of Mine and 3 of Baron for Naninf

[quiet scaffold]

I might be a little special and kinda failed at ante 2 :(

[somber bone]

thoroughly enjoyed this so far, will continue

[somber bone]

some notes:

• took investment tag round 1, after beating boss blind, took neg blueprint first buffoon pack, and duplicated immediately after with ankh in spectral pack
• took first temperance in the shop for duplicating with perkeo, for very fast money making early on, rerolling very aggressively (at times, down to not being able to purchase another reroll)
• survived early antes with a bull alongside the money generation
• pivoted to observatory not long after to make room for a better joker than bull
• as soon as I beat the club (first suit boss), began converting my cards to clubs wherever possible
• trimmed deck down to ~35 cards ranging from king to 9/8 for straight flushes, mostly kings for when baron arrives
• used straight flushes to take a seance and farm spectrals for an ectoplasm, was able to sell ~30 plutos for ectoplasm to luckily get copied (still had ~18 plutos), which it did (aimed to use two ectos)
• first ecto hit my mail-in rebate, second ecto hit a brainstorm
• danced around a lot with econ jokers, namely mail-in rebate and especially golden ticket to make huge value out of hands that weren't otherwise getting used
• meticulously made decisions to take every cola for an eventual voucher skip (eventually got all vouchers except planet/tarot tycoon, retcon came very late–had to deal with plant purely from observatory points, not at a really late ante though)
• dealt with many showmans and invisible jokers to copy (ideally) blueprints and brainstorms after baron/mime settled in
• also dealt with a lot of hand/discard jokers like juggler, troubadour, bean, and merry andy (great synergy with mail-in)
• encountered natural negative mime and dna, as well as delayed grat, bull, and splash (among a couple others I think, but were less notable)

all-in-all, I really really enjoyed this seed, it's the first where I've messed around with an early negative perkeo. not to mention along with a negative blueprint that can be duplicated even before the perkeo. and the natural negative mime and dna? never had that happen to me until now. thanks for sharing!

oh yeah, I tried picking up a burglar a few antes ago but my scoring still killed the boss too soon, and I still wanted my tasty mail-in rebate value, will run into another soon enough, surely..

[hoary lily]

my first ante 39 run as well

this seed is pog

[cursive musk]

Absolutely crazy seed

What’s funny is that my previous phone would’ve started stuttering at 100 celestial cards and now my current phone isn’t breaking a sweat at ante 33

[languid plume]

Still playing around with this all day at work. I’m not really good at the game but this seed definitely helps me learn how scoring works.

[drifting crow]

I can help you with information if you want.

[languid plume]

I can’t even get past ante 2 right now 😂 last night I hit e13 or something. I don’t get it 😂

[languid plume]

GODDAMNIT MIME WHERE ARE YOU?!?!?

[hoary lily]

Do you want help?

[languid plume]

I got pretty far, e21 I think. I feel like I know the right mechanics but I just don’t grasp them yet.

I play a lot of dumb moves I think 😂

[hoary lily]

I actually tried to do this seed again, but I didn't begin to skip at the right time

idk

[languid plume]

It’s a super fun seed. I almost have the beginning 10 moves memorized 😂

[hoary lily]

you should have gotten brainstorm

or at least another copying joker

[languid plume]

Temperance perkeo bull is nice. Yeah I forgot where bs was

Idk if I just spammed shop for brain or what

[hoary lily]

Oh, for better chances at this seed, play plasma

that's how I got to ante 39

[languid plume]

Interesting I’ve been playing ghost

I don’t think I’ve experienced much on plasma

[hoary lily]

plasma is tricky to understand at first, since the scoring mechanic is quite different compared to other decks, but you'll get use to it

most ante 39 runs are done with plasma

[brave pecan]

well just know
chip and mult will equal out after all actions in a hand are finished
so early game, chips will be much more valueable than other decks
and late-game, Xmult will be way better than usual
-# also the 2x blind size penalty is basically nothing lol

[mossy pollen]

can I get some instruction on how to naneinf on this seed?

[drifting crow]

Sorry i overslep mr luke..

[languid plume]

What a wild message to wake up to 😂 all good

[hoary lily]

there's two ways: go full cryptid or go full planets via observatory + serpent boss blind

[mossy pollen]

ALR

sry caps

[languid plume]

What does full cryptid mean? I eat crayons

[hoary lily]

There is a spectral card called cryptid that makes two copies of a chosen card. If you have perkeo, which this seed does have, you can make a negative copy of it in your consumable slot

Assuming you get the typical baron build and deck fixed to red seal kings, you just need to use the many copies of cryptid in your consumable slot to make loads of red seal kings in your hand

[mossy pollen]

should I start off playing high card or whatever?

[hoary lily]

At the beginning? Probably not. Upgrade the hand that will make you survive in the short term before going into high card

[mossy pollen]

alr

[languid plume]

Do I have to constantly use all the cryptids to make the hand bigger?

[hoary lily]

Spoilers: ||there is a brunt joker in one of the early antes (forgot which one), so that can be a good source of hand levels to high card when you need it||

[hoary lily]

If you're going for just a naneinf and not an ante 39 run like I did, then you just use all of the cryptids to have a big hand size

I do suggest in the beginning to take advantage of the temperance and have perkeo copy it

Loads of money right there for rerolling

[languid plume]

I need to write down what ante/round the DNA comes up lol. I remember spamming shop like 10 times for it later game

[hoary lily]

I believe it's ante 10

iirc

[languid plume]

So try to get a red seal king, and then get as many cryptids as possible. I was doing the Pluto observatory build for a while

I want to hit my first naninf so badly 😩

[tired cedar]

is there a dna after the one in ante 10

[hoary lily]

You can get cryptids while you're deck building. However, the problem is that you need to actually buy and put it in your consumable slot which a spectral pack won't allow you to. The only other way is to get spectrals to buy is either Omen Globe voucher or using Six Sense to have the chance for cryptid to pop up in your consumable.

[hoary lily]

Unfortunately not. There's only the one in ||Ante 2 and Ante 10||

[tired cedar]

k

[hoary lily]

The only other way is through invisible

[tired cedar]

no i was wondering bc i sold mine as i thought there was one later

[languid plume]

Where in ante 2? I can’t find it 😩

[hoary lily]

I think it's quite far back in the shop queue

your best bet is the one in Ante 10 because it's the first card in the shop queue

[languid plume]

Yeah I spammed tf out of it and ran out of money 😞

5I2A9TS8

Cuz I’m tired of scrolling

[somber bone]

looking back I'm pretty sure I had a bug with invisible where it would give me an extra joker slot which is what allowed me to keep farming showmans and more invisibles for copy jokers

[somber bone]

it may be due to the unfair joker slot bug that allowed me to generate insane money and reroll much further, but I did get a natural negative dna in a much later ante, though I don't remember which

[somber bone]

if you're talking about duplicating a spectral in your consumables, "buying" a spectral in the shop is not possible except in ghost deck, and omen globe only makes spectrals appear in arcana packs to be used immediately

the only way to get a cryptid and be able to copy it is either with sixth sense as you said, or with seance

and I wholehearted vouch for seance over sixth sense in this run- seance is copyable while sixth sense isn't, so that's a max of 3 spectrals per hand vs sixth's sense's 1, plus cards aren't getting destroyed

although deck building for straight flushes is quite tedious compared to stacking up on 6s, the power of using perkeo to copy death/moon/strength/hung man/fool makes it much easier than one might expect

so my deck building started with mostly red seal steel K of clubs, as well as Q J 10 9 of clubs so I could quickly get ectoplasm for more joker slots

[hoary lily]

I forgot omen only does it with arcane packs

[wary thorn]

Just snagged a Baron ante8rd22

[tired cedar]

yea theres a really deep baron in ante 8

[modest drift]

Stupid plants

[tired cedar]

at that point you should have a lot of plutos for scoring

[hoary lily]

if you had observatory, you can easily clear that

[modest drift]

My high card was level 46

[hoary lily]

Not high card, plutos

As in the planet card

If you had observatory, and a bunch of pluto plant cards in your consumable slot from perkeo, you would be able to blitz through plant like it's nothing