Opening Gambit

[mortal gale]

Rare joker
Lose all discards upon entering blind
Draw 4 cards to hand for every discard lost

This joker doesn’t affect handsize but just allows you draw more to start

[lethal wharf]

Burglar+

[mortal gale]

I don’t think this does the same thing as burglar

Your compensated with options instead of hands

[lethal wharf]

Lemme rephrase

It's a better Burglar

[mortal gale]

Is it

[lethal wharf]

Oh god yeah

[mortal gale]

oh ok

[lilac silo]

Not really

[mortal gale]

can I get an explanation

[late perch]

ok so like

burglar

hand

5 card

this

3 card

Nailed it.

[lethal wharf]

Yeah but hand size

[thorny bramble]

isn't it +3 handsize that's only effective for the first hand

or +6 actually

[mortal gale]

+9 when blue stake gets reworked

[thorny bramble]

probably isn't helpful enough outside of baron or midas

[weak raptor]

This is interesting

[weak raptor]

No, it gives you a much larger chance of getting your stuff you want to play

[thorny bramble]

you draw 1-2 less cards for each discard though

[mortal gale]

Should I make it 5

Or 4

[thorny bramble]

4 is probably a lot

this is one of those things where you can't tell hoe powerful it is

[round star]

Its just like the serpent If you spend your all discards 1 card at a time

[gleaming spruce]

yea which makes it bad for bigger hands

i probably only take this if i have a ton of gold and im already winning

[spice hound]

this concept just doesn't have legs. and that's okay, they can't all be winners. back to the kitchen

[drifting knot]

Keep in mind that if this gives +6, you don't draw after your first hand played since you'll be above max cards still

This is hard to apply outside of "Held in Hand"

[round star]

I know this is optimal for small hands, but i dont see how this is bad for big hands

Doesnt having more cards available make it easier for you to play big hands? Or atleast Guide you towards them?

[spice hound]

it's good if you just wanna play one big hand and win the round

[round star]

So its good for big hands, and better for small hands - and everyone still agrees its a bad idea?

[gleaming spruce]

you see less cards so its less likely to draw a big hand

like your 4oak rank

[round star]

a specific big hand, yes. any big hand, no
what i mean is, at the start/ middle of a run your deck isnt trimmed for a single hand, but at that time any big hand works usually

for ante 8 beating i believe it would be enough
but theres the gambit drawback of course, making it flavorful and interesting

im just frustrated its become the norm here to simply not think about a suggestion before saying it "has no legs" the same way you expect the AP to have thought about every singe nitpick possible

[weak raptor]

yup!

mm

well, it depends

nah

it should draw 4-5 cards to hand per discard lost

then i like it

[quaint plaza]

This seems insanely op for high card runs

[mortal gale]

Buffed it yeah

[gleaming spruce]

its better to just discard for the cards you want

cause with hc you can always discard 5 so how does this help

[quaint plaza]

Lock in twin

See the vision

[gleaming spruce]

if u talking high score you gotta lock in

[quaint plaza]

A minimum of 8 additional cards to your hand, sounds pretty strong to me

Now imagine all of those are steel cards

[thorny bramble]

it's also harder to get large hands if you can't use your hands to dig

[drifting knot]

One bad draw can basically completely screw you