-nan score

[trim lodge]

sooo idk how this happened, but during a naneinf, my scoring got weirdly bugged (to be specific, cards that should score later on started scoring all of the sudden) and at the end i got -nan.

I cant find any info online, so i guess is really, really strange.

The only mods i was using were Saturn and Handy (thats why there are too many consumable slots: its a Saturn bug) so i dont believe that the bug is their fault, but idk

The seed is 5NYBUL23, idk if theres something i forgot to say, let me know if thats the case

[cloud trellis]

Its probably a steamodded issue, but Ill wait for Animate to confirm since they know way more than me on that topic

[wise ledge]

Pretty sure -nan is just a steamodded specific issue, but many people say that it happens when you massively overshoot 2^1024. Funnily enough, I haven’t gone out of my way to test this out unmodded since perkeo is the main way to do this.

I’ve never seen -nan on a vanilla run but that could be because so few people get runs to naneinf in vanilla, not because modding makes it easier, it just feels like most people who go for naneinf play with a few qol mods.

[cloud trellis]

I mean I can get a really high score with glitches if you want

And taking out my steamodded mods

But my guess its just steamodded being steamodded

[wise ledge]

Yeah, steamodded is likely the cause, not any mod in particular

[cloud trellis]

I mean I can test it while taking the whole steamodded folder out

I worded that wrong lol

[wise ledge]

Yeah, I also just realised that I could just do a seeded run for testing.

I was deterred simply because using Brainstorm would stop the test from doing anything meaningful

[cloud trellis]

I mean with bugs I dont even need a seeded run

[wise ledge]

Then if you’re willing to do it completely vanilla, I’ll see if I can find those ‘other requirements’ for -nan

I’m fairly certain people have repeated that your mult needs to be larger than 2^1024 for this to happen

[cloud trellis]

I mean not complete vanilla, I have a frame by frame mod that doesnt use steamodded

[wise ledge]

Yeah, that should be fine

[cloud trellis]

Ye

[wise ledge]

Even if that was to cause some unexpected issue, it would be very unlikely for it to be the same issues as steamodded

[cloud trellis]

Yeah

[cloud trellis]

Got ante 0 triboulet

Nice

[wise ledge]

[cloud trellis]

I softlocked myself…

Woops

I cant babysit and do this lol

[wise ledge]

[cloud trellis]

Ok I have a run I just need juggle tag to appear and a mime

If not, Im cooked

[cloud trellis]

I got mim

Now just need juggle

Well I got bp

This game hates me, still no juggle

[cloud trellis]

Ive gotten 2 blackholes before a juggle tag when I needed it

Welp I shouldve rerolled for serpent

Died ante 17… time to try again

[cloud trellis]

Alright it may have taken a while because I had to do suas without mr bones for 5k$, but I have a run going

With red seal steel kings this time

Oh and they all have 1000 extra chip value because of hiker and 3 bps

[cloud trellis]

This is taking foreverrr

I got juggle but misclicked once and now I cant find one

Oh its the psychic

Im cooked

Attempt 3 time!

[trim lodge]

Insane build

[trim lodge]

Good luck!

[cloud trellis]

Frame perfect bugs make this so easy to do, its actually crazy how much Im throwing 💀

[wise ledge]

It seems that you need to get better at Balatro, try putting more hours into the grind, that should help

[cloud trellis]

I just need to be more patient

[wise ledge]

I feel that, I had a great legendaryless naneinf run going, found like 6 colas when I didn't need to have all slots filled, then ripped the juggle tag at ante 17, forgot that the scoring req is too low

[wise ledge]

also this wouldn't allow for ccd would it?

[cloud trellis]

You can do it but softlock yourself

[wise ledge]

damn

that's a shame

[cloud trellis]

Ive even gotten a pack in my deck

Im scoring in the billions from just hiker extra value 🙂

[wise ledge]

I assume that's from getting the shop overlay to appear mid round

[cloud trellis]

Kind of?

I mean you cant do that cause game just crashes no matter what

But you can get a cashout in a round, and packs, and blind selects

You can also do a method without frame perfects and a different bug, just its harder to setup

[wise ledge]

uh, not related to anything currently being discussed but I just had the debuff overlay break

[cloud trellis]

Im assuming I shouldnt ask if you have steamodded on

[wise ledge]

vanilla

no steamodded

[cloud trellis]

Makes sense

Did you mess with your settings or was it just like that?

[wise ledge]

and on reloading the save, it persists

i think it was because I opened the deck view too early, or perhaps on the right (or wrong) frame

[cloud trellis]

Weird

Maybe

Anyways heres my run rn

[wise ledge]

that's awesome, just make the deck better instead of the cards

[cloud trellis]

Yep

Now lets hope juggle tag appears once this is done

[wise ledge]

for the record, dragging one of the debuffed cards reapplied the X

[cloud trellis]

Woah thats weird

This is taking forever… I shouldnt have played 15 hands at once

Ok it ended thank goodness

Im not holding the cards on the right side of the screen, my decks just that tall and partly invisible

JUGGLE TAG!
poggies

[wise ledge]

[cloud trellis]

Probably only need like 100 handsize for naneinf?

[cloud trellis]

61 almost did it

[wise ledge]

any update on this?

[cloud trellis]

Misclicked a few times

good thing I created saves

[trim lodge]

Soo any conclusions?

[wise ledge]

Absolutely everything I know about naneinf, and all posts I’ve seen with -nan indicate that it is a steamodded issue.

I can’t really confirm anything beyond that. It likely is caused by having such a high mult value that game freaks out more than usual, but that this is also caused by how steamodded changes the how the game works.

[cloud trellis]

I mean if it doesnt matter if its seeded I can get like, 100 ankh ectoplasms and do like tribe seltzer a billion times on a card

[wise ledge]

it shouldn't matter, the math (or lack of) isn't changed by seeded runs to my knowledge

I guess if you can just massively overshoot it in vanilla, that'd help show that it is indeed a steamodded issue

[cloud trellis]

Ok sweet

Ill do that in a bit since it collides with a different project Im doing

[blazing flume]

so is there some way I can get this run to keep going or am i just cooked

I know im a little late to the party

Im assumign trying to disable steammodded will just brick the run

[cloud trellis]

Yeah itll brick the run

kinda jsut cooked

[nova schooner]

almost EVERY time i try scoring naneinf without using plasma deck/sleeve it goes -nan and i do not know why

and its when i tried doing my first naneinf