Which game card could be added to the game ?

[tender halo]

I though of Uno, magics, 1000 bornes maybe

Cards that give different bonus

[lapis lance]

Uno's definitely trademarked

[tender halo]

Can just use different colors

[supple fog]

the issue is that tarots spectrals and planets are all given abilities that you cant generally repeat in a new hypothetical consumable type

[tender halo]

I think uno +2, +4, change colors are interesting

[supple fog]

jokers based on games are fine but more consumable types feels too modded

[supple fog]

and uno copyrighted

also a color changer would be too similar to sigil and the tarot suit changers

[chrome egret]

Not mechanics

But calling the those yea

[tender halo]

That's why I thought of happy families but nobody want to give me a chance

[supple fog]

because you suggested we have a whole new set of slots for it

seperate for consumables

the game is based on poker i feel adding features based on games youd never see in a casino wouldnt work

[tender halo]

Yeah a happy families slot and you get some at the start and you can try to get the whole family for super bonus

[supple fog]

go fish as a high card joker would be funny now that i think about it

playing a high card doesnt score but draws an extra card over the limit or something

as a sort of insurance for bigger hands

[supple fog]

the game has enough slots since consumables and jokers are enough

[tender halo]

What about happy families but as jokers ?? Need the whole family to activate

[supple fog]

thats another nope

for a different reason

[supple fog]

#1432017533757685861 message

[tender halo]

Let's go back on 1000 bornes then

[supple fog]

this explains the issue with jokers that require other jokers to do anything

in a pretty good way

[tender halo]

Exodia jokers seems awesome

[supple fog]

yeah but wouldnt work at all as that explanation i linked explains

[tender halo]

We could give each part a little bonus that increase the more parts you have

1 part +2x, 2 parts +4x, 3 parts +8x, 4 parts +16x, 5 parts +64x

[prisma void]

That's the same issue

Synergies like those can't be in the game because you are supposed to discover those synergies yourself, and not have them handed to you

[tender halo]

We could maybe add debuffs

[supple fog]

this idea doesnt work

synergies should be a coincidental combination of two seperate effects

the game isnt designed to have jokers whose synergies are hard coded

[tender halo]

What's best synergie

[supple fog]

photochad is a good example since the effects arent explicitly coded together but work well together and could be pieced as a combo by any player

[fallow grove]

the only reason why ppl know its good is because of the internet. You;d need alot of testing to figure out photochad is good on its own without yt or reddit etc.

[supple fog]

both effects are first card effects

you could come across it in a run and say "wait does that work?"

[tender halo]

I can't win with the blue cards I'm so bad

[fallow grove]

dusk acrobat is good then

cuz they both last round

[supple fog]

i dont think its a terrible expectation to expect a player playing a roguelike for the first time to experiment with combos

not as much as you seem to imply that you cant find combos on your own

[tender halo]

I got red chip with red cards but I'm not sure how I manage to get it

[supple fog]

the reason this doesnt work is because this isnt experimentation. its the game giving a joker which tells you directly how to maximize its power

also write an effect text that isnt too much for a vanilla joker to describe this

you cant

[tender halo]

So we go back to separate happy families slot ?

[supple fog]

the happy families idea just doesnt work outside of a modded concept

thats all

[tender halo]

What can we add then

[supple fog]

jokers based on card games i suppose

for now try and play some more to understand the game a lil bit more

itll help you

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if youre struggling