#A few voucher ideas of varying quality

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narrow turtle
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Warp Zone - Base
Blinds can be challenged in any order, all Blinds must be defeated or skipped to increase Ante

Wrong Warp - Upgraded
Non-Showdown Boss Blinds can be skipped if neither Small Blind or Big Blind are skipped

Promotion - Base
Shops have an additional Voucher for sale, only one Voucher can be redeemed per restock

Special Offer - Upgraded
Base edition Vouchers can be bought alongside their upgraded edition for $20

Treat Basket - Base
Consumables in the shop can be Negative
{~2% chance}

Bag ‘o Tricks - Upgraded
Created consumables can be Negative (X4 chance)

coarse ermine
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warp zone feels too modded and treat basket and bag of tricks is insanely op for tarot blocking

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the rest are fine i suppose

narrow turtle
regal flicker
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Still bonkers

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Negative consumables are insane because you can block out an insane amount of tarots and basically have unlimited power

coarse ermine
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or get your planets more often as well

regal flicker
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The reason it doesn't happen with perkao is because of how it picks at random making it harder to block out things the more you put in

coarse ermine
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my issue with warp zone is that tackling blinds in a different order does feel very modded as the current system of small big and boss blind is very deliberate

narrow turtle
coarse ermine
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promotion and special offer are fine tho theyre fun i guess

narrow turtle
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It was the first one I came up with by a lot so it’s more out there

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Ok so I have 2 ideas for balancing Treat Basket and Bag ‘o Tricks

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  1. Bring the odds down closer to normal negative odds but probably still a bit higher (BoT would still have the higher odds)
regal flicker
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Anyodds doesn't really work

narrow turtle
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or 2) Keep the higher negative chance but have one or both vouchers give a -1 consumable slots penalty

ebon inlet
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Probably just the base, if both had the downside you would be at 0 slots (if you don't have a crystal ball) and the only way to get tarots is if they are negative, so it's much worse than the base voucher

woven jackal
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What advantage is there even to challenging blinds out of order

regal flicker
narrow turtle
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Also if the big blind has a double tag and the small blind has a tag you want to double

narrow turtle
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also it would suck if you bought the voucher and just didn't find any negative consumables

regal flicker
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Negative consumables are better than Negative jokers

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Especially if they were at 30%

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You can block out everything but the fool, emperor and judgement and boom sift through those forever

narrow turtle
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Also I lowered the odds to 2%

regal flicker
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Not really especially if you have tarot typhoon

narrow turtle
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Honestly if you can get negative copies all but three tarots you've earned it

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It feels fair for something with that kinda commitment to be rewarding

regal flicker
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Also then if you wanna argue that its not powerful unless you have them all then its a voucher thats useless 90% of them time unless its busted

narrow turtle
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I didn't say that?

regal flicker
narrow turtle
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just that it's not as strong as negative jokers

regal flicker
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Which is kinda wrong in my opinion

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Being able to block one more tarot with crystal ball is already incredible

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Negative jokers are usually common ones that don't really help

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Or you spend a hand size

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That's less powerful than the consistent blocking of a negative consumable

narrow turtle
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Crystal ball is a tier 1 voucher tho while antimatter is tier 2 with a useless tier 1, so the game clearly values consumable slots over joker slots

regal flicker
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Joker slots and negative are different

narrow turtle
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fair

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How much value can you really get from blocking 1 tarot tho?

regal flicker
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It really does make getting deck fixing from tarot packs so much better

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Also works for planets

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And that means you only have one planet that can't be included in a pack

narrow turtle
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But if you're using your slots for blocking then you can't really use tarots in a blind

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Although I guess that's what negatives are for

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You also just don't get to use them

regal flicker
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Well yes but thats kinda negligible when you can use more tarots in the packs