Hoarder (rare)

[pseudo sandal]

+1 pack in shop
+1 consumable slots
-1 discard
-# a joker focused around helping to enable better deck fixing. Non BP compatible

[keen bronze]

This has a bit too many good effects… and without any downside

most of the uncommon jokers that passively give you more discards or hands have some kind of downside

[spare pawn]

thats kind of insane

like way too good

[quaint light]

There dropping like flies

[pseudo sandal]

True, I think I’ll get rid of the extra hand

It’s never a direct benefit to your score however

So I mean for a rare I think it’s fairly balanced, especially on higher stakes

[spare pawn]

every effect here could be an individual joker and id still get it apart from the consumable slot

its nkt balanced at all

[pseudo sandal]

Do you take juggler in your runs

[spare pawn]

yes

[pseudo sandal]

Yeah

That’s a common

[spare pawn]

rarity doesnt dictate power directly

this is also just 3 effects not even trying to be related

[pseudo sandal]

I mean that’s literally the theme of it 😭 😭 😭

It’s a Swiss Army knife

Something that does everything for some reason

Though I kept in mind to not explicitly make it buff scoring amidst that

[spare pawn]

its still too strong

3 solid to ok effects at once is op

[old bloom]

I made a Swiss Army Knife joker as a sheet suggestion once

[spare pawn]

also directly outdoing juggler is dumb. i will stand that onyx agate shouldnt just be stronger than another joker without a caveat

[pseudo sandal]

I mean if it’d make you happy I could slap on a -1 discard but idk

There’s the whole thing of opportunity cost

[keen bronze]

Eh, I argue the issue is that taking this joker is very obviously a given since it has no downside. Kinda not a clever idea for a joker compared to what we currently have in the game.

Why would anyone take juggler if you can get your hands on this

[spare pawn]

multiple effects at once which are wholly unrelated if fitting the swiss army knife is kinda something the game doesnt do

[keen bronze]

That’s the issue I have

[pseudo sandal]

Fair

The latter two effects were what I mainly wanted to play with

[keen bronze]

I think the effects like +1 consumable slot could realistically be its own joker

A common obviously

Yeah ik simple idea but like… it makes sense

[pseudo sandal]

Hoarder (rare)

[pseudo sandal]

Kept just these two now

[keen bronze]

This is a lot better

[delicate crater]

Perhaps make it -1 hand instead of 1 discard so it isn't blue stake trauma all over again. It also, sort of helps balance it, you get better shops, but you lose econ and scoring potential for it.

[pseudo sandal]

I mean -1 hand is like usually more punishing than -1 discard (cough black deck) except in a few specific scenarios and current gold stake meta shows -1 discard, while bad, is workable

Post rework it should be okay I think

Also thematically -1 discard makes more sense