#Shrink ray - rare

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fossil smelt
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“Add negative to random consumable at the end of the round”

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Can be copied by blueprint

This could allow observatory to provide better value than 2,25/3,37xmult and I see it as primary function
Secondly if you decide to hold a specific consumable for a round you could block it from appearing in the shop
It would also allow to hold death and other tarot cards for a specific card you’re looking for when you run out of discards/hands
The other thing is storing spectral cards for when you need them (ecto, seals)

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It could activate after blue seals

abstract sierra
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if an idea's only reason to exist is a tier 2 voucher

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it's not a very interesting idea

fossil smelt
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That’s why I listed so many other functions

abstract sierra
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even still they're pretty specific

fossil smelt
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There exists a seance in this game

abstract sierra
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and it's one of the worst cards in the game

echo tree
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I like this

fossil smelt
echo tree
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I can’t really think of any problems

abstract sierra
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most of them are associated with endless which isn't really a consideration for balance

echo tree
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Nice vagabond and cardomancer

fossil smelt
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IF you block every bad tarot

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Then you will generate only good ones

abstract sierra
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ig i completely overlooked tarot blocking

echo tree
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Exactly

abstract sierra
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that'd be a good usecase

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though

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it would make tarot looping easy to abuse with it

fossil smelt
abstract sierra
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it would

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but even getting like 5 would improve the odds a lot

fossil smelt
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That’s 5 rounds of having a joker that doesn’t help with scoring or money

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It’s like getting a perkeo

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It isn’t automatically good

abstract sierra
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it does help with money by making it more likely for you to get hermit, temperance and deckfixing tarots

autumn stump
glacial blade
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Which tbh is why I don’t like it because it completely bricks game balance

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Me when infinite loop of emperor, fool, and temperance/hermit

sweet marten
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Yeah this is one where it seems ass and then you think about it

kind oracle
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Well it's more like it sucks 90% of the time but if it doesn't suck it's overpowered.

fossil smelt
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Now that i think about it this joker could be rare

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Shrink ray - rare

coral whale
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If you fo its busted

kind oracle
# coral whale If you dont know how to use it it is garbage

Well, not necessarily, even if you know how to use it, it still takes time and money to really reap its rewards. In a standard ante 8 run I would probably just prefer an X mult that I can use right away over such an investment. It's just that if you do have the time and resources to finish setup, it's busted.

heady narwhal
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imo it’s not really a strong point to compare x mult to a value generator, they serve two entirely different purposes

coral whale
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With every single round your removing one lesser tarot from the selection

heady narwhal
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Yeah it’s really strong

royal phoenix
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I like it, personally. Perkeo being the only source of negative consumables always felt a bit weird to me.

thorn shadow
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Idk this could be a legendary and still feel good tbh

scarlet marlin
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This is a genuinely great joker concept, and would fit in well with how Balatro feels.

scarlet marlin
glacial blade
coral whale
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Making it dominate the tarot system is i think not that fun

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Again this allows many many more seeds to have infinite money systems

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And the way this joker works it makes it easy to switch out what the emperor is producing

thorn shadow
# glacial blade worse perkeo tbh

i disagree tbh, outside of going naneinf w perkeo i think that blocking every tarot/planet is better
but either way being a "worse perkeo tbh" is still a pretty good joker

sweet marten
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Powerful

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Not good

scarlet marlin
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good is subjective