Deletionist+

[fickle blaze]

Beat all decks on gold stake without unlocking more than 10 jokers. (Achievement)

Thought about it for a lil bit and there are like roughly 7 forced unlocks through a playthrough and uhm I guess I wanted people to suffer.

Also this would imply a Deletionist and Delitionist++ but yeah this is a quarter baked idea sob

[fossil nebula]

Did you just tell yourself to sheet yourself

[fickle blaze]

yeah

I could see this being a super evil achievement but I also hate it myself

[frozen prawn]

Unlocking or discovering?

[fickle blaze]

Unlocking specifically

So like the tribe for example or sock and buskin

[remote stag]

i dont think an achievement which can not be achieved anymore at a certain point in the file makes sense for this game

[fickle blaze]

simply start a new file smh

[stoic birch]

why

[soft trellis]

sola...

i thought you were on our side

not one of THEM...

im gonna have to do it

[faint rock]

i mean, this could be reused as a challenge done for a video or smth

[raw crater]

if youre trying to get this then you must necessarily unlock a blueprint (win 1 run), flower pot and showman (ante 8 and 4), acrobat (play 200 hands; min 8 hands/run times 15 decks times 8 stakes = 960 hands minimum), oops (10k score req; unless you can copy burglar more than 9 times for purple stake ante 8 300k, this is impossible). even disregarding the oops which is theoretically possible you basically can only unlock 6 more jokers

[fickle blaze]

sorry the intrusive thoughts caved in

college has my mind baked

[soft trellis]

honestly thats fair

[frozen prawn]

This is fun, but I think it's better suited as a personal challenge rather than an in-game one

[faint rock]

literally what i said

[frozen prawn]

Didn't see it, sorry

[faint rock]

dw

[fickle blaze]

highkey I should attempt this myself

The question is though what do we consider deletionist and deletionist++ reqs to be

[wet spire]

Pr clear, no?

++ is doing gold stake with every Joker you DO have unlocked

[fickle blaze]

mm fair but what about just D

C is unlock everything

And the closest we could get here is min% but I think that’s harder than D+ sob

[wet spire]

Fair

[raw crater]

copying burglar 9 times just so you get 31 hands so you don't have to play any hand over 10k chips just so you don't unlock oops is insane

[fickle blaze]

Is D just making sure no one collection hits 100%

Ugh idk

That would be a default unlock

[frozen prawn]

You'd need at least 81 hands to beat the finisher blind on Plasma deck without going over 9,999, that's not happening

[raw crater]

oh wait i forgot about plasma lol

[frozen prawn]

Made a Joker tier list based on the difficulty of avoiding their unlock conditions (I'm sure I made some mistakes or bad judgements, so let me know if I should change anything)

[raw crater]

throwback you literally just need to be careful

like if you exit a run then start a new oen

[frozen prawn]

Oops yeah that's where that should have gone, why is it in difficult

I don't think any of the impossible ones need explanation

[fickle blaze]

Why’s the family difficult; all you need is one strength per run minimum and you’ll probably be fine

Apart from that, fair

Cartonancer might sting

[frozen prawn]

You can choose a tarot card you're not going to take (like Empress or High Priestess or something)

But fair, I could see the argument for that being moved up

[frozen prawn]

I suppose yeah

The thing is that you have to go out of your way to do it

Be Careful is mainly for things you could accidentally do, but if you're paying attention you'll be fine

Also, the main reason I put Invisible Joker in difficult is because it requires you to get a Negative Joker (or Antimatter I guess) on every Painted Deck run

[lofty kettle]

Why's invisible joker in difficult

Oh wait painted deck

[raw crater]

i just realized oops is technically possible because of showman so you can find multiple burglars (on your first run). i originally thought you would need blueprint but i realized i was being silly

[frozen prawn]

Assuming you have Handy and Nacho Tong/Blue Deck, you need to find 25 burglars and turn enough of them negative on every run (26 without both vouchers)