Cursed Joker

[ember jacinth]

Rare

Gives 5x mult but all Joker are given perishing after each Bind (except itself)

[spark ore]

This is madness but significally better

[ember jacinth]

I mean madness though has an addictive multiplier but this one doesn’t.

[onyx bear]

For all purposes of an ante 8 clear, this powercreeps madness

[rare meadow]

By the time you’ve gotten madness to x10, a flat x10 is not very strong

So even if you get madness on the very first shop, you’re not going to have a 10x madness till what

[ember jacinth]

I think it’s pretty balanced, and if not than the multiplier is just too high

Which I could just change it

[rare meadow]

A flat 10x is always going to be better than madness

Better than most scaling jokers

[ember jacinth]

Yeah ok what about a x5?

[rare meadow]

Still much better than madness

Since that’s 5 antes for madness

Stronger effect with less of a downside

[edgy sinew]

10 is crazy

[ember jacinth]

I said bind so… that would be like 23 binds to ante 8

[edgy sinew]

And perishable is weaker than destroy

[ember jacinth]

I’m just thinking

[rare meadow]

Do you mean blind

[ember jacinth]

Actually what if all jokers was given perishing

[rare meadow]

With 5x? Maybe?

Probably still too strong