I think that kings and jacks should count as odd numbers (since they are usually counted as 13 and 11 respectively) and queens should be counted as even numbers(usually 12) I don't think they should score more chips, but counting them as even/odd cards would make jokers like Even Steven and Odd Todd much more convenient. Small change but I think it would be nice.
#Face Cards
fringe trail
eternal wraith
I'm not sure I agree personally
I mean, by that logic, an Ace is considered 14 internally, so that would make it both odd and even
Although you don't have to go with game logic in this case
Even with that though, I think it's more intuitive and balanced how it is now
regal heron
“Since they are usually counted as 13 and 11 respectively”
I wanna know where you’re getting this from.
I’ve never played a card game where the jack is counted as 11
eternal wraith
Yeah, if the face cards have a value I think they're usually considered 10 (that's how many chips they have after all)
fringe trail
I’ve never played a card game where the jack is counted as 11
Really? That's how it is in like every card game I've played
mighty zenith
In value they're 10
In actual poker its pr variable
Since 3oak King beats 3oak Queen implying a ranking difference
azure axle
I’ve never played a card game where the jack is counted as 11
any game with straights p much
fringe trail
Yea
azure axle
JQK are rank 11 12 and 13 even if they arent numbered cards
internally in balatro it's the same, i.e. misprint easter egg
eternal wraith
internally in balatro it's the same, i.e. misprint easter egg
Yeah, but Aces are considered 14, so by that logic they should be even as well
It doesn't make sense for them to be even and odd
azure axle
Yeah, but Aces are considered 14, so by that logic they should be even as well
they are rank 14, but number 1
also I agree
face cards already have a quality similar to odd and evenness, which is the qualifier we are using to refer to them
face cardiness is equivalent
compare scary face to odd Todd, or smiley to even Steven
eternal wraith
Rank =/= value
King has a higher rank than Queen, but both have the same value (10)
azure axle
you could imagine a pareidolia equivalent Joker that makes all cards odds, or evens
face ~ odd ~ even
eternal wraith
you could imagine a pareidolia equivalent Joker that makes all cards odds, or ev...
That would make no sense since Odd Todd and Even Steven are the only Jokers that involve odd/even cards
azure axle
I feel like you're not understanding what I'm saying
eternal wraith
Probably, sorry
azure axle
I think attributing the "face" quality to face cards is already what they have, it wouldn't make sense for them to be both face cards and odd or even
without a specific effect creating that
fringe trail
Ooh that makes sense
eternal wraith
I don't think that's really relevant, like if the 2 had a person on it then it would be considered even and a face card I think
regal heron
JQK are rank 11 12 and 13 even if they arent numbered cards
I still think it is not usual for anyone to think of jacks being ‘11s’, I know they are one better than 10s in poker terms, but like… idk my mind just can’t associate jacks as 11s I guess
azure axle
I don't think that's really relevant, like if the 2 had a person on it then it w...
they are rank 11
they are not number 11
Ace is rank 14, but numbers 1 and "Ace"
granted there is some ambiguity in the game over the word rank
specifically for odd Todd, even Steven, and raised fist
raised fist would imply all of the face cards are rank 10
so they would all be even
eternal wraith
Odd Todd and Even Steven do list the cards they affect, so at least there's that