Broken Hands

[upper herald]

For every Joker, -1 Hand Size.

[exotic flame]

This is just annoying. Not saying it's bad, but it's kinda bad

[slender harbor]

Nah it’s bad, it’d force pair/hc builds

[prisma basin]

I had a similar idea but it was with hands rather than hand size:
Start with 6 hands, -1 hand per Joker held

[exotic flame]

Jokerless? But with six hands and worse shop

[prisma basin]

Not every challenge worsening Jokers needs to be compared to Jokerless

It's okay for some challenges to be easier or harder than others imo (as long as they're still interesting in their own right)

[exotic flame]

Sorry. I just hear it so much, and I'm like, typcast and non-perishable are also easier. But yeah I agree

[slender harbor]

“Jokerless but easier” should exclusively be used for challenges that remove jokers but add some other thing, so it’d literally be Jokerless but easier

Example of that: no jokers in shop, start with riff raff
Bad example of that: only commons appear in shops

[exotic flame]

I'll won't be using this. But thanks for letting me know (:

[fiery thistle]

everything is jokerless

gold stake? that’s just jokerless with a few buffs

[vale drum]

What if it's all Mr Bones though, definitely not asking to see if I'm justified in the claim on an older post

[slender harbor]

Ehhh I think so? Main thing is that jokerless also increases tarot and planet odds effectively, but like, it’s just Mr bones that’s just jokerless but easier