#Unwritten Rules

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marble ether
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A lot of suggestions don't follow one or more of these rules that are very hard to find so I thought I would write them down for people.

(1) Common themes

  • (1.1) Secret hands could be made by combining different patterns within a 5 card hand
  • (1.2) Finisher boss blinds are based off of card suits for different versions of poker
  • (1.3) Legendary jokers are based off of real jokers

(2) local thunk said he would not

  • (2.1) include ideas that mention other jokers (ex. a joker that gains mult when used with another specific joker)
  • (2.2) include ideas that are in specific groups (ex. food jokers: seltzer, popcorn, are not specifically grouped in the game but by the community)
  • (2.3) include joker specific hands
  • (2.4) make negative playing cards
  • (2.5) increase card selection limit
  • (2.6) include xChips (it is quite literally the same as xMult)
  • (2.7) no Exodia (jokers that serve no purpose but to be combined with others to make 1 strong joker)
  • (2.8) no joker that swaps chips and mult
  • (2.9) no multiranks (cards that count as multiple ranks)

(3) Guidlines for making jokers

  • (3.1) Jokers should have a theme.
  • (3.2) Jokers should have one effect.
  • (3.3) Jokers with powerful effects should be conditional.
  • (3.4) Jokers should generally "fit in" with other Jokers.
  • (3.5) Jokers shouldn’t always be the ‘right choice’ on an average run.
  • (3.6) Joker descriptions should be short, ideally 3 lines of text or less.
  • (3.7) Joker descriptions should be simple.
  • (3.8) Jokers should synergize with general keywords/stats, NOT specific Jokers.
  • (3.9) Jokers should work in tandem with existing keywords/stats/mechanics, not introduce new ones entirely.
  • (3.10) Visually, Jokers should all contain the word ‘Joker’ in the art. (art is not necessary to include, please do not use ai)

Refer to rules 4 and 5 (#1405413818443632682 message)

if anyone has anything else to say, then please tell me

fickle arrow
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Add that there won’t be a joker that swaps chips and mult either

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He said that before in chill/thunk chat before it was removed

fierce forge
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its the me suggestion

stiff hound
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Finisher boss blinds are based off of card suits for different versions of poker

true but i would say diffrent versions of cards and not just poker

waxen ocean
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Here's some joker guidelines taken from a reddit post by LocalThunk (shortened for brevity, more details in the post itself):

  1. Jokers should have a theme.
  2. Jokers should have one effect.
  3. Jokers with powerful effects should be conditional.
  4. Jokers should generally "fit in" with other Jokers.
  5. Jokers shouldn’t always be the ‘right choice’ on an average run.
  6. Joker descriptions should be short, ideally 3 lines of text or less.
  7. Joker descriptions should be simple.
  8. Jokers should synergize with general keywords/stats, NOT specific Jokers.
  9. Jokers should work in tandem with existing keywords/stats/mechanics, not introduce new ones entirely.
  10. Visually, Jokers should all contain the word ‘Joker’ in the art.
marble ether
fierce forge
marble ether
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smeared and certificate are two that stand out

waxen ocean
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I guess Smeared Joker doesn't explicitly say Joker but you can still read it mostly

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Also it'd probably be good to post what each of the reactions mean so new people stop using again as an upvote

narrow path
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Multiranks/wildranks are also banned

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Also, I think it's impossible to made new secret poker hand that follows all rules gros_michel

willow bramble
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yeah thats becase thunk already added all of them (which is good!)

marble ether
tiny pollen
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Maybe add no new Tarot cards cause they are based of the original tarot cards?

willow bramble
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Well the minor arcana would work probably

thin yoke
marble ether
thin yoke
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Perf

upper rover
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also boss blinds are from the phoenician alphabet and based off of the letters meaning (sort of)

willow bramble
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except The Flint

narrow path
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I think it would be fine to use Scandinavian runes for new boss blinds

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Like it was with flint

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Or som silly letter like ꙮ

marble ether
runic jungle
tropic bone
willow bramble
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(4) Additions that are not Jokers

  • (4.1) All the Major Arcana are used, so new Tarot Cards should not be added.
  • (4.2) Vouchers must have two tiers. The second tier is only available once the first tier is purchased.
  • (4.3) Boss Blinds should punish a specific run or playstyle. (e.g. The Water punishes reliance on discards, and The Plant punishes reliance on face cards.)
  • (4.4) All possible secret hands already exist.
  • (4.5) New Boss Blind art should be based on runes, per The Flint.
  • (4.6) Entirely new mechanics, well designed or not, generally feel modded.
    (5) Etiquette
  • (5.1) ☝️ is an upvote, and nope is a downvote. again is disputed and should not be used. See https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1396662064717627603 for a full list of emoji meanings.
  • (5.2) If you upvote your own suggestion, you should also downvote it.
  • (5.3) Don't use AI. A suggestion with an AI sprite is much worse than a suggestion with no sprite at all, and the moderators have explicitly stated AI content is not tolerated.
  • (5.4) Try to keep discussion under a post related to the suggestion.
  • (5.5) Don't bump a post more than once.
  • (5.6) If you edit a post, clarify what the original post was, so people can follow the conversation.
tropic bone
fickle arrow
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(6.1) 🐀 All users must give $20 to the rats in order to bump a post

tropic bone
fickle pond
willow bramble
tropic bone
wide crow
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Can we add in challenges with extra requirements to win. For example the one about "trigger to do list twice each round".

willow bramble
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theyre cool though i think its fine

wide crow
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It just doesn't feel very vanilla

vagrant dirge
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I have a doubt

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The ⚙️ (feels moded) is something good or bad?

fickle arrow
fickle pond
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“Exceeding the score limit” or “if score catches on fire” shouldn’t really be a thing included in jokers

tropic bone
wide crow
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Yeah winmore

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Actually unless it's a reset trigger

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Maybe a joker that gains +mult per hand until your score catches fire and then resets, that's an acceptable implementation ig

wispy belfry
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I vote for banning bumping with no new conversation at all

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Like I’ve seen some posts with 10 messages of conversation then just bumping

fickle arrow
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Everyone should get one single bump

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Cause sometimes stuff is missed, but also I don’t wanna see the same post bumped daily for no reason

wispy belfry
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Exactly

willow bramble
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alr i'm gonna add (5.5) Don't bump a post more than once.

crystal saffron
willow bramble
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People use it as an upvote

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Since it's the default react

crystal saffron
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There's not one, not two, but FOUR other buttons you could use as upvotes what kind of buffoon does that

fierce forge
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☝️, 👍, (gold_seal for great suggestions), and what

crystal saffron
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☝️ :yep: 🔥 gold_seal

fierce forge
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well no one else has yep afaik

crystal saffron
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It's from another server huh

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Interesting

fierce forge
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its from my personal emoji dump

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featuring staples such as muchotexto and sheet

tropic bone
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Can we have this pinned. Or at least pin mathman in this thread

willow bramble
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I think just adding a link to the additions in the top post is decent enough

steep forum
willow bramble
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alright

marble ether
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i cant lie i didn't know you could do that

tropic bone
marble ether
tropic bone
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You don't know what I'm talking about, do you.

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You have absolutely no idea. And it's kinda funny

marble ether
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Makes no sense in the first place

tropic bone
wispy belfry
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What is he on about

marble ether
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thats what im saying

wispy belfry
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He often just goes on random tap sessions nobody understands

uncut delta
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Oh I didn’t know I could do that
“You can”
Well I know that now, thats how I did that
“So you did know you could do it”
What?
“You don’t understand what I’m saying and it’s funny”

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What is bro yapping abt

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(4.25) You should explain what the tier two does, and how to unlock it. The unlock method should be relevant in some way to the ability of the tier one

fickle pond
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This shadow p guy is kinda weird

fickle pond
uncut delta
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Woah thats hard

fickle pond
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Lower the number?

uncut delta
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Maybe make it 150?

steep forum
fickle pond
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150

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Eh

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Either

steep forum
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You’d unlock it in due time

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By the time you’re gold staking you’ve got 250

fickle pond
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I don’t see why a voucher for booster packs wouldn’t make sense in vanilla so

uncut delta
steep forum
fickle pond
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I have something in mind

steep forum
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A good amount of players get C+ before C for example lmfao

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So this wouldn’t be so bad

fickle pond
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Just as a hidden thing
Would it make sense for arcana packs to appear more often if you have tarot merchant/tycoon

uncut delta
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I think so but joker packs are really useful

fickle pond
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Sometimes they’re just bait

uncut delta
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True

fickle pond
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Learned the hard way not to skip for buffoon packs

steep forum
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Makes your run much more one dimensional at that point as it removes some flexibility in what you see since both are affected

tropic bone
uncut delta
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Ah, bullying a minor who is also a minority, sure looks good on your resume

tropic bone
uncut delta
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Twins ❤️

tropic bone
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Sorry mate didn't really want to, but a friend said I should

uncut delta
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It’s ok lol

tropic bone
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I don't understand why you guys think I'm mean. I'm way more in person

uncut delta
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All I’ve seen you do is just insult people

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Also no-one here called you mean

wispy belfry
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I don’t know why you guys think I’m mean I’m way more in person

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You are not tuff

fierce forge
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i blocked that one a while ago

drowsy mist
wispy belfry
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How he thinks he is

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fierce forge
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annoying af and acts schizo most of the time

wispy belfry
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True

uncut delta
wispy belfry
tropic bone
uncut delta
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Why do you keep saying shit then saying you meant the opposite

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Sam sparks ass

tropic bone
uncut delta
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Australia coded

tropic bone
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I'm just following advise

wispy belfry
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Bad advice

tropic bone
tropic bone
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How to turn tables?

uncut delta
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What tables and how have they turned

marble ether
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wtf is happening?

tropic bone
uncut delta
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No you weren’t???

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Ok well you added a question mark

tropic bone
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I forgot the question mark, I'm sorry

uncut delta
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And now it is not only grammatical incorrect and irrelevant, it just doesnt make ANY sense

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Why are you asking this and why are you forwarding my earlier message

tropic bone
uncut delta
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I don’t think you know what that phrase means

tropic bone
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That the roles have flipped

uncut delta
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Yeah

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So

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If you know why are you asking me if this is a how the turn tables moment

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Also how have the roles flipped 💀

tropic bone
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Because I need to know if this is bullying.

uncut delta
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Why are you asking the potential bully if this is bullying

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And how would this be bullying 💀

tropic bone
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And before someone says it, even though nobody will. I'm too tired to care, I'll try tomorrow

uncut delta
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All I’ve done is say you’re annoying

tropic bone
uncut delta
tropic bone
uncut delta
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WHAT IS BRO ON ABOUT 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 💯 💯 🥶 🥶

uncut delta
tropic bone
tropic bone
uncut delta
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Oh we know

tropic bone
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I knew too

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Just not in that way

uncut delta
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It’s 10.50am and i havent slept yet

tropic bone
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Imma need some sleep. 3.5 hours of zombies really might have infected me in real life

tropic bone
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At this point sleeping isn't an option

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Now I feel really bad

wispy belfry
tropic bone
wispy belfry
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yes

tropic bone
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Like chat gpt

wispy belfry
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thats the only explanation

tropic bone
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I hate chat gpt. If I wanna be misinformed, it will be by the people

wispy belfry
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thats what a clanker would say

tropic bone
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Then unplug me

woven urchin
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can we get a mod to pin the rules so I don’t have to scroll up all the time

tropic bone
woven urchin
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ah big brain

tropic bone
wispy belfry
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A very bad one at that

tropic bone
uncut delta
waxen ocean
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Help, what's going on and why does everybody hate this guy now

fierce forge
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i mean most of us have hated them for a while now

waxen ocean
fierce forge
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serial ragebaiter, nothing useful to add, often annoying, goes on long rambles about nothing, said some questionable things, etc.

fickle pond
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also his suggestion in flavor text kinda sucked

fierce forge
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also we need more people with access to yep

waxen ocean
fierce forge
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its a shame they never add good emojis

waxen ocean
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Yeah, like why do we have emojis like jokers_deli and dusk but things like Yep! haven't been added

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When would I EVER need a jokers_deli emoji

uncut delta
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When someone asks what a joker deli would look like

fickle pond
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jimbologne

wispy belfry
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Don’t hate on jokers_deli

drowsy mist
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Also Cavendish is just the best joker

fickle pond
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I’m bored outta my mind can anyone share like the shittiest ideas they’ve seen suggested on here outside of the sheet suggestions

fickle arrow
marble ether
glass shadow
wide crow
willow bramble
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Can we add a 3.11 for "Jokers' base sell prices are half their buy prices" or something

waxen ocean
wide crow
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Are there enough suggestions that come with buying price for it to matter

marble ether
tender field
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What's with the yep?

fierce forge
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its an emoji that i have but apparently no one else does 😭

uncut delta
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I dont have nitro

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And im not in that server

tropic bone
inland roost
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“unwritten rules”
look inside
the rules are written

fierce forge
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its my personal dumpster

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no one besides me is in it

uncut delta
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So sad

inland roost
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thats cool

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mine has 2 members tho. me and my alt

uncut delta
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I use mine for random bots

waxen ocean
inland roost
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woaw

fierce forge
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i have four

inland roost
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goddam

wispy belfry
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I vote to add a no flame effect rule

uncut delta
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Wdym

fierce forge
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YES

uncut delta
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No flame effect rule?

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The flame effect is when you get enough chips to beat the round in one hand yeah?

wispy belfry
uncut delta
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Oh

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Yeah ok

woven urchin
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is there a rule about removing stickers? like eternal, perishable, and rental

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I think there should be if there isn’t already

toxic sorrel
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the wonderful feeling of reading this and going “wait I’ve done every single thing people here are saying not to do and more”

willow bramble
tropic bone
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Wait, has anyone thought about, since enhancements comes for tarots, and the major all tarot are taken. Can't there be no more enhancements, I mean spectral or standard packs could have them. But that's also kinda out of place.

Am I making sense here?

wispy belfry
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Should there be an unwritten rules violation emoji?

fierce forge
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yea

uncut delta
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can it be 🫃

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I love 🫃

hardy folio
hardy folio
fickle arrow
tropic bone
foggy rose
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also the flunt is made up so were not above made up tarots for the gane

tropic bone
foggy rose
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yes last i remember its not a real letter

tropic bone
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It's a rune though

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Or something like that

foggy rose
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if something is a great idea i dont localthunk is above adding it under a fitting original name and everything

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but idk what enhancments would still cover new ground

tropic bone
fickle arrow
tropic bone
fickle arrow
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Probably a new thread each maybe? Or there could be a mega thread where people suggest their own ideas for it

willow bramble
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I think megathreads should only be used if the ideas rely on each other

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You wouldn't add just like. one reversed tarot

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But a group of themed jokers need not stay grouped

crystal saffron
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Do We have "no jokers that spawn with editions"

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There's a pile of always negatives and they're not great

fierce forge
crude idol
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1984

wise shell
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okay, i never intended to ever post here, but i felt the need to add a new section 6 related to challenge design :

(6.1) When proposing a challenge, please include at least the following :

  • starting conditions
  • explicit ban list (jokers/consumables/card packs/vouchers/skip tags/boss blinds) ; any item not on the list will be assumed to be encounterable in the run
  • rules and restrictions, if any
  • starting deck (optional if you use a vanilla 52-card deck)
    (6.2) Challenges are done on white stake only.
    (6.3) Challenges are meant to be completed on ante 8. Not before, not after ; just like any other Balatro run.
    (6.4) Challenges should allow room for multiple strategies.
    (6.5) Simply starting with theme related jokers is not a challenge ; please add some rules to make it an actual one
    (6.6) There are already a billion suggestions for a boss rush challenge ; please don't add to the pile

feedback appreciated, because i sure have forgotten things

weak quiver
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so its not made up

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i find it interesting that both tboi and balatro have tarot cards, runes and planets (planetarium) as classes of things

fickle pond
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What could we use the_plant for

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For threads related to the suggestions channel itself or?

tropic bone
willow bramble
wise shell
woven urchin
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how do I get to the first message

glass shadow
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This should work

inland roost
crude idol
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I hate rules

inland roost
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true…

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regardless of this channel’s existence, the shitty suggestions that this thread attempts to prevent will appear

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no rules will stop me from submitting winmore joker

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no matter what you’ll keep telling people when and why their suggestion is bad

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basically this thread usless Sobbing_dotgg_femz

stiff hound
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it is nice to have somethinf to refer to though

inland roost
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i suppose

fierce forge
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cant teach someone who doesnt wanna learn

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(cough)

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BASQUIAT

wispy belfry
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I have an idea for the unwritten rules violation

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🦧

tropic bone
tropic bone
# fierce forge # *BASQUIAT*

I looked at the suggestion and realized. no matter how bad I think I am, there's always worse people. Also what a crashout

toxic sorrel
tropic bone
toxic sorrel
tropic bone
toxic sorrel
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this guy’s ideas are deader than yorick

uncut delta
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I love getting +100 mult from a 2 because of hiker and hanging chad

toxic sorrel
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i love when “but it lets you naneinf easier” is a reason that people will pull out of their ass and it’s not even accurate

uncut delta
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I mean technically +1 chip does

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I think

toxic sorrel
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it does, just so inconsequentially it might as well not

uncut delta
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yea

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so like

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you can say "but it lets you naneinf easier" for anything

toxic sorrel
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"this joker is always negative and gives +1 chip! it lets you naneinf easier!"

uncut delta
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There's a joker in cryptid that costs -12 dollars, but it's always eternal and it gives +6 chips or something

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so basically it gives you 12 dollars but removes a joker slot

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I guess if you have really high mult six chips could do something...

toxic sorrel
uncut delta
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yeah

toxic sorrel
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and then there's a big cube that gives x6

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and costs what the cube gives you

uncut delta
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my favourite mod is cryptidposting, which adds all shitpost suggestions from the cryptid discord server

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so it's just super overpowered/underpowered shit suggestions

fierce forge
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he posted it

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like

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9 times

uncut delta
toxic sorrel
uncut delta
fickle arrow
wispy belfry
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🧔🏻‍♀️

hardy folio
tropic bone
fickle pond
tropic bone
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Wait. Guys am I cooked for beefing with a [redacted]

tropic bone
coral bluff
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add no basquiat joker

stiff hound
fierce forge
tropic bone
drowsy mist
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Guys [redacted] is a [redacted]

hardy folio
fickle pond
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What if

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What if 🍫 equaks “doesn’t feel vanilla enough”

coral bluff
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don't we have ⚙️ for that

hardy folio
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yeah

outer echo
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Can we add a rule that bans the use of brainrot, ive seen 2 “67” posts like bro😭😭

fierce forge
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its a shame no one would follow it

tropic bone
willow bramble
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we were already going to

tropic bone
steep forum
inland roost
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the written unwritten rules

wispy belfry
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Post full suggestions

tropic bone
fickle pond
snow barn
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Suggestion Commandments

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Rule 18: m

wispy belfry
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I really think there should be a rule about posting full suggestions

uncut delta
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But thats peak

wispy belfry
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It is

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But it’s just annoying

inland roost
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new rule renames “unwritten rules” to written rules because the rules are very clearly written

tropic bone
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if we wright all the rules twice, it can be call rewrighted rules

crude idol
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wright

tropic bone
steep forum
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Phoenix Wright

uncut delta
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Apollo justice

tropic bone
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What is happening

uncut delta
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We’re bullying you teehee

tropic bone
uncut delta
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Because Sola said phoenix wright after you said wright

tropic bone
wispy belfry
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Destroying cards is good

fierce forge
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destroying cards is absolutely not a downside

drowsy mist
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Unless like it only destroys cards in final hand of round or something where it only destroys your cards you need to win

drowsy mist
tropic bone
hardy folio
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Where we say things that aren't said

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There is no way for a new suggester to know that thunk said x

wispy belfry
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Possibly stupid rule but don’t crowd legendary joker suggestions with information about the person

tropic bone
drowsy mist
wispy belfry
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I feel like it could also be a limit on how much text you can put

waxen ocean
waxen ocean
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Also, it might be better if you put that info in a separate message underneath the suggestion, so it's clear what part is suggestion itself and what part is flavor

waxen ocean
wispy belfry
willow bramble
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i don't think explaining yourself is bad

waxen ocean
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Yeah, like for example, the whole "mucho texto" joke is for when the suggestion itself is complicated enough that it takes paragraphs to explain how it works

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There's no problem with elaborating deeply on things like balance, as long as it isn't necessary in order to understand what the suggestion is

stiff hound
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Please don't punish me I just wanna write about my design process for my jokers

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Please I didn't know it would kill them

tropic bone
waxen ocean
steep forum
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Do people dislike reading so much

wispy belfry
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Yes

steep forum
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I don’t know what else to say

tropic bone
willow bramble
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since harambe died

tropic bone
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i graphed it

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willow bramble
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why up from 16

tropic bone
willow bramble
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there we go

tropic bone
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i somehow forgot 2012.

image.png
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do you play battle cats?

outer echo
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👍

tropic bone
outer echo
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Like, venus

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I kinda got there in 1 month and stopped playing after sonic collab

tropic bone
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do you know why tf zapy has the warp ability

outer echo
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???

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Idk what zapy is

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One piece

tropic bone
tropic bone
outer echo
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Havent seen it

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Maybe a few planets behind venus

tropic bone
outer echo
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Then idk i guess

tropic bone
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and like 8 others

outer echo
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Oh then not there yet

hardy folio
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think long text is sometimes the only way to get a productive discussion going

fickle arrow
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Mucho texto is only for joker descriptions, but if you’re adding actual discussion/analysis then that’s no problem

fierce forge
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  • no fun allowed
willow bramble
fickle arrow
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Well new mechanics on jokers is against thunk’s guidelines so yeah it’d feel modded

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fierce forge
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written rule

willow bramble
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I don't just mean on Jokers though

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I mean suggesting something along the lines of blind skipping + tags and hand levels

fierce forge
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YES

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"jackpot machine" 💔 💔 💔

tropic bone
steep forum
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Can we add don’t make 9/11 jokers to the rules list

fierce forge
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isnt that already a rule

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written rule

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rule 5 violation

inland roost
toxic sorrel
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and it totally was not just a rocket that self destructs

steep forum
toxic sorrel
inland roost
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i think 9/11 jokes are unfunny simply because they’re overdone

hardy folio
toxic sorrel
snow barn
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there are 5 unwritten rules of jokers: 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. you can fill them out yourself

inland roost
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ni

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no*

somber roost
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how am i supposed to find the rules

willow bramble
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on mobile: tap the top right of your screen
on 'puter: click the up arrow button

somber roost
wispy belfry
steep forum
hardy folio
inland roost