#Mirror Deck

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ocean heron
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All scoring happens in reverse order (right to left, jokers first), required score scales faster per ante

Notes:

  • On white and red stakes, inherits green stake scaling; on green through blue stakes, inherits purple stake scaling; and past purple stake, ante 2 base score is 1,100 and ante 8 base score is 400,000.
  • Jokers score right to left, then held-in-hand effects, then played cards. This enables, for instance, glass and steel cards to bolster additive mult from jokers. Also makes Brainstorm copying xMult the optimal scoring strat.
  • Because of the more powerful synergies enabled, the required score scales faster. This is not the same as the base score doubling as with Plasma, since the deck effect is primarily reliant upon jokers to capitalize upon its benefit.
  • The first played card still counts as the first played card, despite scoring last.
  • Yes, this fundamentally alters the core gameplay loop. So does Plasma, as well as Erratic and Anaglyph to a lesser extent.
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(edit, corrected one of the notes, base score ante 8 purple+ is actually 400k)

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Yes, this would make two decks that have to deal with 2.4m Vessel lmao

glass lotus
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the synergies here arnt as good as plamsa

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so the punishment shouldnt be as bad

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a couple jokers get slightly better

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but a couple get worse

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and some are eh

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oh wait jokers first

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hmmmm

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i cant decide

lapis berry
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Glass

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Just glass

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And steel tbh

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Wait so order would be "Cards played - held in hand - jokers" right?

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Wait

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Reverse that

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I'm an idiot

ocean heron
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Plasma also makes some jokers better and others worse

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That functionality is not unique, a lot of decks have features that make jokers more or less useful

glass lotus
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but yeah i didnt realsie it was scaling

ocean heron
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Consider that your +50 Green Joker can interact positively with steel and glass now

lapis berry
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Consider that mult cards are even worse now 🤤🤤

pliant karma
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Niche?

lapis berry
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Im not too sure if I like the idea

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But this would flip basically any Xmult effect on its head

hybrid ivy
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erm actually planets would score first if you had observatory 🤓

glass lotus
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fingers everywhere

ocean heron
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It still wouldn't affect deep Endless if that's what anyone's worried about, all xMult is commutative anyway

indigo thorn
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it’s just kinda weird tbh

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And makes steel cards specifically way better

glass lotus
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balatro weird????

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this game is very normal

lapis berry
indigo thorn
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TRUE let’s add Jimbo deck (+4 mult innately)

glass lotus
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and adding this would make it not normal

lapis berry
indigo thorn
ocean heron
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Plasma is also very not normal ClairenShrug

lapis berry
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It's just adding then averaging LOL

indigo thorn
lapis berry
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Plasma is less weird then Erratic id argue (in terms of design weirdness, not how much it bends core gameplay loop)

glass lotus
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ahhhhhh

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also better in some ways

lapis berry
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Hm.. averages..

glass lotus
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but also worse

ocean heron
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Thinking back on it, it's a bit hard to pinpoint what playstyles would suffer from the deck effects exactly

glass lotus
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lucky card builds

indigo thorn
wheat ore
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Ordering only really affects XMult, so it'd negatively affect reliance on XMult Jokers

...which is actually a lot of uncommons

glass lotus
lapis berry
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How?

indigo thorn
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High card stocks going CRAZY

glass lotus
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how?

ocean heron
lapis berry
lapis berry
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Scored ≠ played

wheat ore
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Photochad's only 8X anyway where's 16X coming from

indigo thorn
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I think it working with + mult jokers still is a mega buff to photochad

glass lotus
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idk why i was thinking it was left most scored

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im going crazy

glass lotus
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yes

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typo

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plus my sock and busckin

ocean heron
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Hm... guess it's actually pretty difficult to balance a deck where the entire gimmick is "your crazy disjointed builds actually work"

glass lotus
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it negatively affect 2 jokers only i think

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and then a couple of enchantments

marble wraith
indigo thorn
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Yeah I know it’s balanced around ante 8

marble wraith
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It's not buffing Glass/steel, it's buffing flat mult

indigo thorn
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This buffs +mult too much

marble wraith
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Which is why the score requirement is higher

indigo thorn
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Still not a fan tbh

severe owl
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NO WAY

trim fable
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I love how it shakes up the whole gameplay. Bump from me for sure.

glass lotus
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I love p4
So much

severe owl
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I hope they release p4r soon

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I wanna play it now

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!!!!

glass lotus
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Im worried about it but I am sure it'll be great

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We probably shouldn't talk about here though lol

warm osprey
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oh man, this would be an absolute nightmare to code lol

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sounds like a fun way to turn things on their head though