Power Cards

[hidden stump]

A Card Enhancement.
Naturally gives +50 mult and +50 chips, but all Power Cards are always at the bottom of the deck.

[wheat cargo]

wdym, like they are always the last cards drawn

[hidden stump]

Yes

[bronze current]

This seems like a fun idea, numbers are definitely too high though

Edit: Maybe not actually

[wheat cargo]

you would need a fixed deck for this to be useful, which by then 50 mult anf 50 chips aren't helpful

[hidden stump]

Yeah I did think it was a little ambitious. I wanted to make something to do with cards that were always drawn last

[mellow whale]

not necessarly, abandoned deck

[wheat cargo]

fair but you would kinda need like merry andy or other hand/discard jokers to make this viable

[hidden stump]

Also Immolate and Hanged Man would help

[mellow whale]

oh i agree

[astral ember]

This is also lowkey kinda neat as pseudo deckfixing

[bronze current]

Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking

[mellow whale]

thats actually such a great idea

[velvet mason]

i like this a lot but probably needs tweaks

[wheat cargo]

well thats just normal deckfixing

[ember rapids]

Modded

Very missed

Modded*

[mellow whale]

The big number is the modded feeling

And thats already the big problem

[spiral kraken]

I think 50 mult is too large, 16 mult is okay 😶

[ember rapids]

• the manipulating draw order

[mellow whale]

That doesn't feel modded to me

[tight pewter]

A great deal of the mechanics in Balatro would probably be called "modded" if they weren't already in the game. Could you imagine the response a Mr. Bones suggestion would get?

[sour mortar]

anaglyph, plasma, and erratic decks would be the same

The numbers could use some tweaks but I really like the concept

Though all the major arcana (which give enhancements) are already taken up with other effects...

[bronze current]

Also, I think Blueprint and Brainstorm would get d for being too strong

[tawdry sage]

Ain't no way "you gain a built in game mechanic at the end of each boss" would feel modded

[tawdry sage]

This is agreeable tho, seems cool just would need tweaking to the upside

[sour mortar]

The point is that the eventual playstyle is significantly different from normal, since skip tags have way more value later in the run

It's the only deck to interact with tags in a meaningful way

[tawdry sage]

Well yeah- but straying from desired or current playstyle is balatros entire shtick, between bosses and the majority of rare and uncommons Jokers

[sour mortar]

Very fair

[tawdry sage]

Compared to Plasma and Erratic, as well as most modded ideas, which don't change playstyle but introduce entirely new playstyles or mechanics

I agree that Anagylph plays differently from other decks, but not different enough to constitue snth like "feeling modded" IMO

(Tho I'm the same guy who said Plasma feels more natural than erratic so 🤷‍♂️)

Katie i saw you typing

Spit it out (with love)

[drowsy cobalt]

I don’t necessarily think that’s a strong point, like I’d say mr bones would feel modded but having a couple things that are abnormal is fine. It still doesn’t change my thoughts on it, Modded ≠ bad

I could see this idea working if it was only like +20 mult and always bottom decks, no chips

Feels like a red herring argument ngl

[tawdry sage]

I'd rather lucky cards at that point tho

Especially if you can only get 1 power card per [consumable]

[drowsy cobalt]

It is also deck fixing though, and 20 consistent mult feels strong enough

Not a fan of chips and mult, just make it x mult at that point fr

[tawdry sage]

Not to say it'd be bad; but being a bottom draw would almost always go on cards you dont want to play, unlike other enhancements (which even if dont promote playing them, should go on cards you want)

Id honestly think it'd be better as a utility option, but thats a half baked thought so dont dig deep into it

[tawdry sage]

I view it more like a strawman, they want to argue "oh it wouldn't fit the theme" instead of it's validity as an idea LOL

[tawdry sage]

Would money be worth it?

Something that gives like 5-7$ on scoring but is always at the bottom of the deck?

Nvm i dont think itd be worth it

[drowsy cobalt]

True true, I was thinking that at first

[tawdry sage]

Without either over or underinflating the value

[drowsy cobalt]

Lowkey what about x mult? It could be 2x just like glass

[tawdry sage]

Hm

Honestly

Yeah

Xmult works best with high mult hands or consistent hands, so a high Xmult option that you have to dig/work for sounds fun and balanced as it MUST be your endgoal, can't rely on it randomly popping up

[drowsy cobalt]

Would make it sliiightly better than glass in endless too

[tawdry sage]

Actually, it'd be way better theoretically (for all of endless, not specifically the scoring side)

You can optimize economy options (Rebate, gold cards, gold seal, etc) without worry as long as your deck is the right size

You will never see your scoring cards before you want them

[drowsy cobalt]

This actually sounds cool

2x I like, +mult and +chips I dislike

[tawdry sage]

I agree w Katie, switch this to 2x mult and we've got a meh to decent enhancement for ante 8, and an amazing new toy for endless

[mellow whale]

2x is what would like too

but its not meh in 8 ante

its still decent+ there

[tawdry sage]

Its meh to decent depending on deck size

In some runs i never even see the bottom 12 cards in the deck

[mellow whale]

yeah but making undsirable cards go to the bottom is helpful too

[tawdry sage]

At worst it's meh since it's deck fixing thats slightly better than Tower/Stone cards

[mellow whale]

i would still say thats a good effect

[tawdry sage]

Yup, but still an overall meh affect when Death and Hanged Man exist. Plus it'd make it near impossible to get things that check for ranks fully fixed

Especially since those same "undesired cards" will NEVER be drawn unintentionally or easily again

[mellow whale]

when you get 3 arcana cards it adds a third weaker one

[drowsy cobalt]

Wait actually this is like both upsides of glass lmao

Removing cards you don’t like and scoring 2x

[mellow whale]

which is helpfull

[mellow whale]

we did great

[tawdry sage]

Also what happens at 5+ power cards in deck

[drowsy cobalt]

Just, in a different way

[tawdry sage]

I assume just random draw

[drowsy cobalt]

Yeah, I think in Spire if you have 10+ innate cards it’s random

[tawdry sage]

Hm neat

[mellow whale]

any better names

weighted cards?

[drowsy cobalt]

Lead

Tungsten

Some other metal to contrast steel maybe

[mellow whale]

lead is good

youve got first print cards so why not last print cards

[tawdry sage]

Anchor cards/j

[drowsy cobalt]

Yo mama card

[tawdry sage]

😞