#Potential Perkeo + Observatory naneinf? (8 Perkeos)

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thick depot
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  • I found a Plasma deck seed with at least 8 Perkeos (via invisible joker) and Observatory, all fairly early
  • I found it casually and wasted an ectoplasm by mistake in my run so only got 7 Perkeos
  • Got to ante 32 anyway (3.822e172), could this be a naneinf seed?
  • Seed: TPJ9GPB1 (Plasma deck)
  • (Oh, and I don't have 'Hit the road' or 'Seeing double' unlocked)

The wiki calls the Perkeo + Observatory naneinf "theoretical", implying a seed hasn't been discovered. It says you would need 7 perkeos in round one - well, here is 8 perkeos kinda early, and I haven't even scouted it at all.

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Current route:

  • You need a double tag by Ante 10 - you'll see 2+ diet colas before then.
  • Early on, I used Business Card, Trading Card, Juggler & To the Moon with face-card full houses for money and score. From Ante 5 the negative planets will carry. Use a few Earth cards for scoring to reach that point.
  • 🎟️ Reroll Surplus: Ante 1
  • 👤 Trading card & Business Card: Ante 2 shop
  • 👤 Perkeo: open the 1st Arcana pack in Ante 2, then buy Heiroglyph in shop 3. On the second visit to Ante 2, he's in the first Arcana pack.
  • 🪐 1st Arcana pack in Ante 2 has Emperor -> Priestess -> Pluto for cloning
  • 👤 Foil photograph for score: 2nd ante 2 shop (buffoon pack)
  • 🎟️ Telescope: Ante 3
  • 🎟️ Overstock: Ante 4
  • 👤 Invisible Joker 1: 15th in Ante 4 shop
  • 🎟️ Observatory: Ante 5
  • 🔮 Ectoplasm: Ante 5 Spectral pack
  • 👤 Invisible Joker 2: 72nd in Ante 5 shop
  • 🎟️ Blank: Ante 7 ish
  • 👤 Invisible Joker 3: 67th in Ante 7 shop
  • 👤 Blueprint: 52nd in Ante 8 shop
  • 👤 Brainstorm: 1st in Ante 9 shop
  • 🔮 Ectoplasm: Ante 10, 2nd skip tag Spectral pack (use double tag from diet cola)
  • 👤 Invisible Joker 4: 49th in Ante 11 shop
    I'll keep scouting. Let me know any other finds and I'll add them here.

Ideas:

  • Ante 7 has Sixth Sense 97th in shop, which gives Ectoplasm 4th in ante 9 or 1st in ante 10
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narrow schooner
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i don’t have any contribution to this thread but please ping me once you figure out whether naneinf is possible thru this method

split inlet
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where did you even get first perkeo? looking at the seed in blueprint i see the perkeo as an arcana pack scip drop ante 2, and no other possible perkeo

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(this is with your unlocks checked btw)

split inlet
thick depot
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Well, I'm pretty sure the other perkeos were all from invis joker, maybe one was ankhed

split inlet
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the first perkeo is unobtainable as far as i can see

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and the invisible jokers are pretty low for a count as well

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lots of them but most are deep rare tags and only 3 of them are actually obtainable in the shop

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did you post the wrong seed?

thick depot
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Oh, hm. I'm not sure. One thing that might be relevant is that I started this run in May (in case the version changed). And in the other chat Lokey said "ah heiro after a few in ante 2, then next round 2 arcana pack will have", but I don't quite follow what that means.

split inlet
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oh

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they bought the heiroglyph voucher

thick depot
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Yeah. I assume that changes the shops but I don't know how it works.

split inlet
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it essentially will put you back into "hey this is where an arcana pack should be but this arcana pack has the next 3 possible cards instead of the ones you saw" meaning "hey heres a fkn perkeo"

thick depot
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Ahh, I see. So you open an arcana before heiroglyph, and then open the same one in the same ante next time around. I'll try it.

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Got it, thanks. Added the details to the post.

violet flame
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do you know where all the invis are? i noticed u said there is one ante 4 but do you know when the others are

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also how do u roll to get invis without sacrificing all ur score am i stupid

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oh a crafty shows up

thick depot
thick depot
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Just wanted to update the thread to say that I've done more scouting and added my current route to the main post. Currently have 5 Perkeos (2 negative), Blueprint, and Brainstorm on Ante 11.

thick depot
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I have a spreadsheet to do the maths on this... and it looks like this route is still a potential naneinf - barely. It's close. Might be able to reach 800+ planet cards by Ante 38, which is around the amount needed, depending on any other scoring. Still need to work out a couple of things though.

sacred parcel
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Can anyone help me

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I can’t get perkeo

thick depot
# sacred parcel I can’t get perkeo

You'll need to open the arcana pack in Ante 2, then buy the Heiroglyph voucher before the end of Ante 2. You'll return to Ante 2, and Perkeo will be in the first Arcana pack there.

sacred parcel
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When I do it I don’t get a second arcana pack

thick depot
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Interesting. Perhaps you need to buy the voucher on a specific round? I think I bought it in the last Ante 2 shop.

sacred parcel
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K

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Thx

thick depot
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Let me know if it worked and I'll update the route info.

sacred parcel
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Ok

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Is it in the first ante 2 shop or later

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It worked

thick depot
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Nice! Thanks, I'll add the info.

sacred parcel
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🔥

sacred parcel
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What should i sell to get invisible to hit

thick depot
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I haven't tested that, unfortunately. I just sold everything else.

sacred parcel
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Do you know how invisible just work or no

thick depot
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Nope, I'm new to all this.

sacred parcel
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👍

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Thanks

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How do you win the ante 4 boss then

thick depot
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  • I had been removing low cards every round with trading card
  • I levelled up full house a number of times. Earth appears in the Ante 3 shop + in a lot of celestial packs in Ante 3 & 4
sacred parcel
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Ok

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I’ve been doing flushes

thick depot
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You'll need a decent amount of money so discard to try to find full houses with face cards. You can also buy juggler in Ante 2 to help.

sacred parcel
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You can do it with flushes too

thick depot
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I feel like you can probably earn more with business card, since you can more easily make full houses containing 3-5 face cards. Could be wrong though.

sacred parcel
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True

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Your way is def better bc if you go flushes you don’t have the money to get ante 5 invisible

thick depot
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Yeah I think I was at $100+ by Ante 5

sacred parcel
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I still can’t roll far enough for the invisible

thick depot
stone quarry
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when you get a joker it's added to a list. things that select a joker like invis or ecto or something, a random number is generated off some list and that translates to which joker will be chosen. that list can be manipulated a little, but it's annoying and prob not worth. but a copy joker is def preferred compared to another perkeo 🙂

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if naninf is the goal, pretty much 860odd planets are needed if no other way of scoring present

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(red seal glass of some 5 card hand adds about e6 score, planet levels...level 100 of a good hand like flush 5 would add mabe e5. so could replace ~30 planets this way)

misty totem
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Cannot get past ante 4 with this😅

stone quarry
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red seal poly + 3x dusk = 25 planets. constellation x10 = 5ish planets. I missed a few planets but it's gonna poop out around here. don't think there was the option for another ecto. I missed maybe 10 more earth, but I don't think this goes the distance

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(it was e229, my kingdom for a justice lol)

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I did screw up, I sold showman when I didn't have to. so maybe could have had another copy joker, that's another 5 hits on poly/glass.

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and there's 2 neg rares you could potentially block out. I didn't check to see how deep bean was in ante 8 though. that'd probably do it

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218 deep. could probably reach that, you have BP so that's 10 hands...30 hand size is enough ecto if you can find burglar

narrow schooner
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exciting

misty totem
stone quarry
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def want mods for observatory shenanigans, waiting 5 minutes for a hand to score is pain.

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I don't like that there isn't a great early game $ builder I can see (ticket, but you don't have the deckfix and copy jokers to abuse that)

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and because money accomplishes almost anything in balatro. I didn't check to see how fast you can collect all the tarot cards, that's usually something you want to do for seed abuse theory crafting

narrow schooner
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can you do emperor cheesing

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maybe there’s some sequence of tarots you can calculate that gets you infinite money

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actually

stone quarry
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it's years of playing. think there's a mod that simulates it

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dr spectred routed doing it in like 8 rounds? patch changes might not affect that seed, old vid

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best I've done is between ante 12 and 14, but had a way better $ start than this seed

narrow schooner
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my idea was infinite money = enough invisibles early

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8 rounds is definitely fast enough

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but idk what you could do on this seed specifically

stone quarry
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wish you were on a better seed

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2 early invis isn't bad, but I'd rather have copy jokers and break the game that way

narrow schooner
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basically if you get 2 ecto + infinite money + perkeo on black deck you’re golden

stone quarry
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plasma = half as many planets as other decks

narrow schooner
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mainly because i never use plasma

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so then you need 3 ecto

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which reduces ur hand size to 2?

stone quarry
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you get 1 hand size voucher. lose 6 hand size

narrow schooner
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yeah

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or just don’t get all the perkeo at the same time

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this could technically work

stone quarry
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all perkeo is pretty, but copy jokers are better. negatives aren't great but they're useable, maybe some blocking gets you better ones

narrow schooner
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what i was thinking is have 7 perkeo online by ante 5

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and have observatory by then

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and use the 8th slot for bootstraps

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but if the seed has negative bootstraps that’s even better

stone quarry
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really needs to make 100 planets more than I did to beat ante 34

narrow schooner
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i know 7 perkeo at the beginning gets enough

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so 8 by ante 5 is almost enough

stone quarry
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no, you lose heiro immediately just getting perkeo

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really need rounds with a bunch of perkeo

narrow schooner
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wdym

stone quarry
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you need 870ish for naninf. a few less to hit ante 39 where you lose. so you have 40 antes you play (the two go back vouchers) of 3 rounds each, 120 rounds. dunno how early 7 perkeo is enough

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like 870/7 = 124 rounds, too many

narrow schooner
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you need 109 rounds with 8 perk

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that leaves you with 15 rounds to set it up

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so we have two options:
nat negative perkeo + 2 ecto + infinite money + any nat negative +mult jimbo in the shop
perkeo + 3 ecto + infinite money + any nat negative +mult jimbo in the shop
...all by the end of ante 5

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this seed probably exists

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how long would you have to spend farming money? maybe an hour?

stone quarry
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about 30 rerolls per round sees a copy joker every ante. that's like $500/round

narrow schooner
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thats too slow

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i was thinking grab showman and get em all on the same round

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or across two rounds

stone quarry
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that gets expensive fast. say you can get $500/minute so like $30k

narrow schooner
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if we do it in two rounds it takes $16000 by my calculations

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and lets say we're farming with temperance and getting $50/emperor

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that's 32 minutes, if we can go through an emperor every 6 seconds

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so not too bad

stone quarry
narrow schooner
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i might do that after i get some mods to help me with managing 800 planets