#Chekhov's gun (uncommon)

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glossy plinth
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At start of blind picks a number between 1 and your max amount of hands, 4X mult when that hand is played

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lets say i had 5 hands it would pick prehaps 3 and once i play my third hand it would give that 4 Xmult for that hand (and thats it no further hands or anything)

viral yacht
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intresting intresting

lean hull
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I like it

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Wouldn’t it be funny if you had to face the amber acorn and not know what hand has the 4x?

glossy plinth
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thatd be funny

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actually should it show what hand it is

lean hull
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Well if it’s “when blind is selected”

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Then yes it would be hard to know

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If it’s “resets at end of blind” then nah it’s no issue

glossy plinth
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well it makes you want to play consitent hands

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its based of acrobat after all

glossy plinth
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small blind it might be 2nd hand, big blind 5th

glossy plinth
# glossy plinth its based of acrobat after all

where that you know when its coming and can prepare for it and play like high card to keep your best hand for the end, where as this you need to be playing good hands more often but for a bigger payout

lean hull
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What about with the needle? Would it only be hand 1?

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Oh wait

glossy plinth
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so youd get the 4x on that first hand

ashen sun
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Feels a little modded but good

glossy plinth
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really?

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well thanks for the complement

frosty monolith
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I think its a nice idea but a little broken maybe make it rare cuz this would make acrobatics look like jolly joker

glossy plinth
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acrtobat you know when exactly it will strike so you can prepare your best hand

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with this its harder to so you need to play more consistent hands and 3X vs 4X isnt a jump of rarity in my opinion

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yours is valid though

lean hull
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If it’s the first hand you better hope you have your hand ready right there

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Plus it being first could forfeit DNA value

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4x seems reasonable

sinful vortex
glossy plinth
sinful vortex
glossy plinth
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Sorry for the confusion lol

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I feel pretty good about this one all things considered

manic creek
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The 4x shouldn't be a hidden stat

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If you couldn't gain more hands I'd agree it should be, but when you get to 5+ that's asking an unreasonable amount of deck fixation

manic creek
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Otherwise, I like it alot, you cooked fr

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Could steal my job at this rate

glossy plinth
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And I mean the 4x isn't hidden

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The hand that triggers the 4x is hidden

glossy plinth
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Hmmm well then getting stuff like burglar is the problemo

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Hmmmm

manic creek
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Not even that, blue deck and the hand vouchers all become not just actively but extremely detrimental

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You're expected to have an entire additional good hand for this to work (which.. kinda pushes it into HC/Pair spam.)

glossy plinth
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Oh god what have I made

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I became what I sought to destroy

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Well i guess I leave behind the hidden element

frozen wave
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Isn't this just a better loyalty card?

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Then of course, loyalty card is probably not the best thing to balance around.

glossy plinth
echo moat
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I think this would just encourage HC and Pairs. A straight build, for instance, couldn't really rely on it. Assuming that when it triggers is secret.

glossy plinth
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But it doesnt

echo moat
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Not really, it encourages easier hands and playing lots of hands.

glossy plinth
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I want it to though

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But it doesn't encourage lots of hands

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The amount of hands doesn't matter if you hc spaming

echo moat
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how do you figure? Unless you play, on average, half of your hands, you will, on average, not benefit from this.

glossy plinth
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Oh well yeah

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I thought you meant that it encourages having lots of hands

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It encourages you to go through your hands and thats a fine thing

echo moat
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having fewer hands actually makes this more consistent.

glossy plinth
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Its the hc and pair stuff thats the problem9

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I know?

echo moat
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sorry, of course you know, I'm not trying to talk down to you.

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I apologize if I'm coming off that way

glossy plinth
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Your all good

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No im sorry

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I feel like im defending it to much lol your all good

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Well we could just have not activate on high card or pair

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Simply easy fix lol

echo moat
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that would make it a little bit too complex.

glossy plinth
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Not hammy at all

echo moat
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well, so Checkov's gun says that if you see a gun on the mantle in Act 1 it should be used by Act 3.

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is there any way we can work that into the effect?

glossy plinth
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Yeah a element in a (good*) story will go off if its been introduced

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Which is what I was going for

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You got any ideas?

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Im all ears

echo moat
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If the first discard is returned to the deck. If any of the cards from that discard are subsequently played this joker triggers for xMult? Doesn't really solve the HC problem though. It also conflicts with effects (Trading Card) that use the first discard (not necessarily a bad thing).

This is a completely different joker that simply fits the theming.

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might make the HC problem worse, because your options are severely limited by trying to build around whatever cards you happen to be able to draw from your first discard.

glossy plinth
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I mean that does sorts make me think of a more simple idea from yours

echo moat
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do tell!

glossy plinth
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Where just if a hand contains a card from first the draw give 2x mult (or what ever)

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Your was just a bit wordy

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Not a bad idea and mine is too simple now

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Also falls into the same pit falls as yours

echo moat
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how about make it explicit and narrative?

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A card is selected when the first hand is dealt. If this card is played, etc.

glossy plinth
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Wait I remember this suggestion

echo moat
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Marching Orders

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I never did implement it

glossy plinth
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I love you hijacking another suggestion to give yours a second life

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Thats amazing

echo moat
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eh, not my first choice clearly

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I just don't have good ideas.

glossy plinth
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Well hey you have other talents

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And thats great

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Also good balancer

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So good job

echo moat
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lol

glossy plinth
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I myself am a masterpiece of deception

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Getting people to think i have a good idea

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But I dint

spark hedge
blazing lance
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This breaks loyalty catd out of existence

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But its been reworked anyway

glossy plinth
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Amd it doesn't break it if which hand is hidden