Creates a random Spectral card when Blind is defeated.
(Can only appear once Mr. Bones has prevented death.)
What do you all think?
#Necromancer (Uncommon)
rare talon
fallow quiver
Ooh this is interesting
I can't tell if it's balanced or not but I like the concept a lot
rare talon
More experienced Jimbo Fan Club members could probably tell if this is balanced.
fallow quiver
Yeah exactly
fallow quiver
Yeah, I mean you have to get a specific Uncommon and another specific Uncommon
pallid cosmos
Exactly
rare talon
I thought of this as being the Uncommon equivalent of the 
/Cavendish relationship.
I like it a lot.
pallid cosmos
I mean the other spectral makers have a cost
And intentionally losing q blind is sorta a neat cost
And the name works very well
As it is just better cardomancer
Its a play on that
But also the undead like with Mr bones
dusty forum
Should be rare tbh
That breaks the /Cavendish but uncommon point
lean jackal
Also, Cavendish is common with a really good effect and it works fine. The fact that you need to get another joker and kill it before you are able to get this joker balances its powerful effect out.
dusty forum
What does 
mean
pallid cosmos
What does <:grabber:1185774067647783046> mean
High five
dusty forum
But high is 1 card
violet matrix
Without the Bones clause this is incredibly OP and with the bones clause this is near impossible to get.
Its a great concept but I don't think that it would work in the game
dusty forum
Without the Bones clause this is incredibly OP and with the bones clause this is...
Yes but, it's between a rare and a legendary. Mr. Bones never appears so yes small chance for greatness. But unlike a legendary or even Cavendish, you can control it much more, of course you can't control that you get Mr. Bones. But once you get it you can control when you want to destroy it. So impossible but possible.
But you do have to get 2 Mr. Bones in 1 run
And you can't get multiple bones. Unless you have showmen
violet matrix
But you do have to get 2 Mr. Bones in 1 run
Why 2?
pallid cosmos
yeah why 2
dusty forum
Because of it works like Cavendish you have to spawn bones kill it, and then get another one
Because then this would spawn instead
At least 2
violet matrix
Yes but, it's between a rare and a legendary. Mr. Bones never appears so yes sma...
I feel like, unless the joker is legendary, a joker should be relatively easy to find. Cavendish works because its with two commons. The chance of finding two uncommons is way lower
dusty forum
What are the chances of common VS uncommon
violet matrix
What are the chances of common VS uncommon
I I think its something like 80% for commons and 15% for uncommons
And theres more uncommons than commons
violet matrix
Yea
dusty forum
That half of the rare chance
violet matrix
I I think its something like 80% for commons and 15% for uncommons
25%
0,390625%
Thats the probability of a specific uncommon joker spawning
rare talon
Is it worth it for two or three free spectral card per ante?
dusty forum
So a really bad chance
rare talon
Well, sure, but again. Free spectral cards for the rest of the run once you have it.
All you have to do is strategically lose a blind.
rare talon
If it's something useful like Trance, Talisman, Aura, Cryptid, etc, good. If not, well, then, hey, free money from selling it.
No matter how you look at it, getting this joker is still worth it.
dusty forum
My math was right. I'm an idiot
dusty forum
If it's something useful like Trance, Talisman, Aura, Cryptid, etc, good. If not...
So this is better than a legendary
Than 2 legendaries
rare talon
I mean, the only real problem is in getting it.
rare talon
I didn't want Necromancer to be legendary, though. I mean, unless I change the theming to like
Vecna or something (Vecna being an iconic D&D villain)
I just don't see it as being legendary.
It would also be the only legendary that
- Appears in the shop naturally
- Can't be gained from using the Soul card
And that just doesn't make any sense to me.
dusty forum
Good idea but the chance is too low
dusty forum
I didn't want Necromancer to be legendary, though. I mean, unless I change the t...
But I didn't say it should be a legendary, I said it was half the chance of a legendary. You said it was worth it. I said so it's equal or better than 2 legendaries
Well I said better
But equal works
@violet matrix are you asleep
rare talon
But I didn't say it should be a legendary, I said it was half the chance of a le...
There are other jokers like that, though. I mean, take Cavendish. Unconditional x3 mult. Slap on a 
or two, and you've got more Xmult than you know what to do with. Even without , Cavendish is still as good as a legendary.
dusty forum
A legendary that gives 3x is really bad
That's a rare
Like literally driver's license
rare talon
I mean, I didn't want something that would just be Mr. Bones but it doesn't self-destruct, you know? And we don't have a spectral card printer like this yet.
violet matrix
<@780847372041191445> are you asleep
Nah
Necromancer is too weak to be a legendary but too powerful to be a normal joker
rare talon
So where does that put it, then?
dusty forum
Cavendish is a 1.7% chance
silent lagoon
So a really bad chance
Proposition: Mr. Bones is Uncommon, Necromancer is Common
dusty forum
That breaks the /Cavendish but uncommon point
silent lagoon
That feels pretty limiting though
You could just have this be a Rare Joker. This feels like a Rare
urban hollow
Cavendish and Cartomancer if they had a kid
violet wigeon
Cavendish and Cartomancer if they had a kid
And just like real life. It's dummy rare
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