Plasma or plasma joker, maybe rare

[gilded glacier]

If you beat a blind with extra chips the leftover chips add on to your score next blind
Resets after boss blind

Any thoughts

I'm not good at pixel art so I cannot show you what it might look like

But feel free to sketch any of your thoughts and show me

[ocean perch]

It should have a cap

[gilded glacier]

Wdym

It resets after ante

[ocean perch]

I dont get that part

[echo plume]

Any excess after beating a boss blind doesn’t carry over I believe

[teal lantern]

problem with this is that if you are relying on this, you might be screwed on the small blind of every ante because usually they are bigger (or just slightly smaller) than the boss of the previous ante

[gilded glacier]

Yes

Because if I carried over forever it would be over powered

[raw wave]

This sounds fun with loyalty card

[gilded glacier]

That's so it isn't too powerful

[gilded glacier]

Exactly

[teal lantern]

i get that but it also makes it not desireable

[gilded glacier]

It is because if you have a strong build it rewards you with extra chips

[gilded glacier]

If you think it isn't super desirable would you change it to uncommon

[plain valley]

I kinda dislike this general idea of carryover between rounds, feels really weird but also winmore

[gilded glacier]

Winmore?

Wdym

[plain valley]

Like even if it could be balanced, I wouldn’t like it

[plain valley]

If you’re barely scraping by this does nothing. If you’re winning by a ton then it snowballs into winning more, which is generally bad design

[gilded glacier]

Ig it is quite different to the games current mechanics

[gilded glacier]

Maybe the chips cap at half req chip amount but no reset

Idk

[onyx dust]

Glass cards,
Food jokers,
Perishables,
Builds based on inconsistent poker hands,
the fact that blinds scale within an ante,
Bloodstone,
Ancient Joker,
Balatro being a deckbuilder(you draw better cards sometimes),
Boss blinds(sometimes they counter the player)
Loyalty card

Winmore is so overused as a term.

1. Blind scores scale over time, you would need to perfectly match the rate at which they scale to always be "just getting by" by the same amount. In early antes, it is the trend to be quite far ahead of the score for a while, just a single +mult joker will do it. Realistically, your score proportional to the required score goes up and down all the time, you lose at pain points where your current build needs changes in order to meet the increasing blind scaling or especially in high stakes when temporary boosters run out.
2. Even discarding the matter that the factor by which you overshoot the blind score fluctuates significantly over a run, even your "score" significantly changes between hands. Balatro is a deckbuilder with chance based cards and a saturation of "catch-up" mechanics that provide temporary boosts to scoring. Although just playing high card or pair might have fairly consistent scoring, many builds like straight, flush(AJ/bloodstone), and of a kind require luck of the draw to reach peak effectiveness and can brick. You can also largely inflate your score with early +mult, glass cards and perishables.

I think that joker concepts like this are actually healthy for the game. Calling it winmore ignores the wide variety of builds that suffer from inconistency, and peaks of challenge such as boss blinds and build pivoting. As prior mentioned too, even in consistent times, balatro provides many means meant for only temporary gain that this joker would synergize with and sustain.

[teal lantern]

see the problem with this joker is that it is unlike the food jokers which are meant to be perishable

this is meant to be a stable in your run

[onyx dust]

Did you read the whole thing

[teal lantern]

yes, you kinda cut me off but its ok

[onyx dust]

The entire point is that this helps inconsistent builds to prevent them from bricking.

It's like a more permanent but niche Mr. Bones

[teal lantern]

i agree with the idea of having inconsistent jokers in which they can be helpful but the underlying problem with this is that it resets every ante

[onyx dust]

Not even inconsistent jokers, but inconsistent hands

[teal lantern]

if this joker is barely allowing you to win on the boss blind, then you are likely to not survive the next ante

[onyx dust]

I am talking about builds that can "brick", ie you get that right hand or enhancement and it shoots to the moon, but you don't pull it and you are going nowhere

[teal lantern]

i get you can get extra score in jokers, but something would need to change between antes in shop(which yes is likely) but if you are getting this while barely struggling, then it wouldn't be useful

[teal lantern]

then that would be relying on this joker (which if it is the small blind, you are going to lose)

[onyx dust]

But you are significantly less likely to brick

[onyx dust]

My point with boss blinds is so much the score they require but rather, the issue of them countering you build.

[teal lantern]

1/3 chance to just brick isn't a really good interpolation of a joker (if you are heavily relying on it)

[teal lantern]

this would be good if you are pre-emtively looking at the boss blinds (which is common) but if you get this on the shop after the big blind, it is useless

if you barely beat the small blind, this card would do nothing in the big blind

you would have to be knowning that your build is going to fail and prepare for that failure when using this joker (which isn't a bad idea but like you said its just a glorified Mr. Bones)

[onyx dust]

I think this really does have a place in the game though. Like any joker, it isn't going to help every situation, but it great to see a joker based on increasing consistency.

[onyx dust]

The boss blind factor is more of a bonus than a primary function

[dreamy mantle]

what happens if the overshoot one-shots the next blind?

[onyx dust]

That depends on when it triggers I guess

[elder shore]

Carryover the excess???

Its fairly plainly worded "when you win, all chips above the goal transfer to next blind"

.-.

[dreamy mantle]

Yeah

But what if that transfer beats that blind too

Does the blind get skipped?

Do you just cash out instantly?

[elder shore]

You select blind and then win

The chips aren't "scored" until you're in blind reasonably (id imagine this Joker triggers at the start of round along with the 8 cards being dealt.)

[teal lantern]

glorified Mr. bones that needs an extra blind of prepwork

[dreamy mantle]

but it's reusable

[elder shore]

And can contribute to a run that isnt already losing

[elder shore]

...or be on later antes where the scaling doesn't matter as much and Wall/Vessel do!

Oo or bosses that impact your ability to consistently score (suits, faces, blocking multiple of the same hand)

This is pr useful

[dreamy mantle]

It could also have skip synergy where if your overshoot one-shots you might skip the big blind to save the scoring for the boss

[onyx dust]

My main argument has also been that it helps for 5 card hand based builds that brick if you draw badly

[dreamy mantle]

Yeah

[gilded glacier]

If you are entirely relying on this joker you are play the game wrong

[gilded glacier]

No it scores after all other joker alowwing you to get more value from mail in rebate ect

It also helps with boss blinds that would kill the run

[gilded glacier]

You could make an effort to get close to chip req and then play a high scoring hand

[teal lantern]

Yea I wouldn't rely on Mr. Bones in my setups either

[plain valley]

Mr Bones does this better though if it’s meant to just help vs bosses

[river tendon]

Double holographic Mr. Bones and a merry Andy can beat anything. Except ante like 260 but that's besides the point

[onyx dust]

If you read earlier in the chat, the effect for bosses is more of a bonus than a primary effect. The primary effect of this joker is ensuring consistency, bosses are only a branch of that purpose. Unlike, Mr. Bones, this is a dedicated joker that you can place in your build for the specific niche of inconsistent scoring.

Inconsistent scoring derives from many places, such as reliance on hand type, luck based effects, temporary boosters and luck of the draw regarding playing cards.

Mr. Bones is a one time savior, this is an enabler for inconsistent builds

[river tendon]

With this you get past ante 39

So Mr. Bones is the goat

[plain valley]

I mean, I’d rather have a standard 2x or an actual scoring joker if I need more consistency

[echo plume]

But if the consistency is in drawing the hand, 2x won’t help

[plain valley]

Idk I don’t see the vision

[onyx dust]

Say I have a level 10 straight and the order, the difference between pulling a straight and not pulling a straight is much more than 2×. Especially in builds based on on score effects, things can be really hit or miss, for example, I pull my leveled flush with ancient joker, reaching well beyond what I need or I brick and pull an unleveled high card, my best score being hundreds of times greater than my bad score. This joker enables riskier builds, where you can't always get what you need.

[river tendon]

Why straight with the order I thought that was for flushes

[plain valley]

Order = straight, tribe = flush

[river tendon]

I makes sense. Because straight are in order but I thought it was flush

But order is 3x not 2x

Tribe is 2x

[teal lantern]

we lost the plot 😔

[teal lantern]

and if you dont draw your hand, is the extra score going to allow you to win? i think it would just make you score like 180k/220k or something useless

[river tendon]

What plot

This is not a movie

[gilded glacier]

If you get really luck with luck y cards and you get triple what you need you will beat next unless maybe wall or violet vesel

[gilded glacier]

It's because they know there wrong

Rndname9 has a good point

[gilded glacier]

@leaden lantern

[leaden lantern]

i have been summoned

[leaden lantern]

i like this idea

could be a rare

i will now take my leave

[gilded glacier]

Shut the fuck up

[gilded glacier]

Because you're fucking blind

[plain valley]

Dog chill tf out

I wasn’t even talking to you on that first message

[gilded glacier]

Dumb fuck

[pastel nimbus]

erm

[stray oracle]

your idea isnt that amazing darling

im not gonna say why i dont like it because its probably already been said

[gilded glacier]

This is why I hate discord

[stray oracle]

then stop using it

[gilded glacier]

Full of neeks

[stray oracle]

the fuck is a neel

neek

[gilded glacier]

You ruin good games like balatro

[stray oracle]

...? i havent done anything to balatro though?

[gilded glacier]

You infect the fandom

[stray oracle]

dude

whats your problem

you dont even know me

well, barely

"i dont like your idea"
"loser. fuck you. i cant look at this game the same again"

[gilded glacier]

You're a fat ass grown man who lives in your grandmas basement

[stray oracle]

bold assumption

im actually a nearly dangerously underweight grown man who is struggling to take proper care of myself in university

because of what might be depression

[gilded glacier]

Also you can't be a boy and a girl at the same time btw

[stray oracle]

i am not

im a boy

but bigender is a real identity

[gilded glacier]

Why are you ' so fluffy '

Grown ass man btw

[stray oracle]

why is that relevant to this suggestion at all

or balatro

[stray oracle]

problem?

grown ass man btw having issues woth me just being myself

[gilded glacier]

Behave like one

[stray oracle]

i'll do what make sme happy thanks

[gilded glacier]

Fucking hell

[stray oracle]

i still dont see how anything about me is relevant to balatro

if you dont like the community, you can leave
if uou dont like discord, you can leave

if you dont like me, just block me

[lone kiln]

the idea of score carryover doesnt work since if youre getting it consistently you dont need it at all

about the actual suggestion

[lone kiln]

and this is discord.... acting like a jerk about something that doesnt hurt you is just being a jerk. it isnt justified

[gilded glacier]

Ye not all jokers work in all situations mate

Otherwise they would be to powerful

[stray oracle]

when it works you dont need it and when you need it it doesnt work

or something

[lone kiln]

the effect fundamentally doesnt work for anything tho

if you can score enough excess to get the bonus you can score enough to beat the next rounds

[stray oracle]

idk it could be helpful for inconsistent stuff like vloodstone or loyalty card

[lone kiln]

id rather bloodstone be good on its own than just have more joker dependencies

[stray oracle]

fair

[lone kiln]

and id argue loyalty card does this jokers angle of effect better

you can waste hand intentionally before a boss blind that troubles you for a quick 4x

its not a great joker but its effect is not unusable. at worst its a pseudo luchadore

[stray oracle]

fair fair

[elder shore]

This just makes good runs stronger and bad runs are unaffected

You need to be in a position of "already winning but need more scoring for the next blinds" and atp you either would win all the following blinds regularly, or this helps you for the next 2-3 blinds/1 ante, then immediately drops off as you need more scoring

Idea is cool, but its not great in terms of functionality

[dreamy mantle]

it's okay for inconsistent builds