mint heron
A mod that adds extra effects on top of your Jokers. By default, a Joker can have 2 maximum extra effects. Sometimes, you will find a Joker with an extra effect, and its strength (Potency) is also determined randomly.
Download link: https://github.com/bepisfever/stacked
tiny fractal
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FIRST
topaz bay
she stacked on my joker til i
mint heron
sob
mint heron
no 😭
tiny fractal
potency <3
mint heron
i will consider adding limbus status effects one day...
hushed timber
my joker is impotent
trail flame
peak
hollow radish
nice
topaz bay
i will consider adding limbus status effects one day...
Suddenly, One Day
tiny fractal
imagio
mint heron
extra effects in question:
timid vigil
Bepis shenanigans is finally here
mint heron
sob
forgot to account for the fact that the effects spawn in collection menus too, my bad
will be fixing in a moment
-# shouldnt crash or affect anything gameplay-wise though
devout fable
It's very good idea you can add a lot of content to it
hollow radish
Testing it rn
devout fable
How's it?
hollow radish
haven't found one yet 😅
devout fable
If it be my luck 20% is 0.001%
mint heron
lmao
tiny fractal
yeah i think ill
make a voucher type of thing
thac stacked crossmod coming Soon™
(possibly Later Today™)
hollow radish
Idk if I'm unlucky or what but I haven't seen one yet in 6 antes
mint heron
what
actually?
thats super odd
you can try adding a print in where the mod adds an effect to jokers to see if its actually not a bug
hollow radish
Yea sure
mint heron
i dont think anyone has been hit with that yet, so might be a mod conflict (or you are genuinely that unlucky 😭)
devout fable
I think you should increase chance
autumn vortex
if i can figure out how this works it would be cool to add grab bag crossmod like "Joker will Shatter in 5 rounds" on eligible jokers
mint heron
if i can figure out how this works it would be cool to add grab bag crossmod lik...
its not hard at all, trust :3
hollow radish
Amazing run still
devout fable
lmao
mint heron
sob
hasty venture
Amazing run still
Hmm something’s wrong here and I can’t put my finger on it
mint heron
teto!
hollow radish
you can try adding a print in where the mod adds an effect to jokers to see if i...
What's the line?
devout fable
How many effects did you add
mint heron
the second argument is this thing
mint heron
How many effects did you add
uhh
tiny fractal
its not hard at all, trust :3
the proble mwould be "on eligible jokers" i think
mint heron
only 9 rn
mint heron
the proble mwould be "on eligible jokers" i think
theres in_pool function
tiny fractal
does that get the card tho
mint heron
yes
tiny fractal
o
mint heron
tiny fractal
bepis do you think i can read
mint heron
Don't worry adding is my work
mhm
hollow radish
Ok I had 4 shop slots and rerolled a lot and no print in
tiny fractal
weird cuz it works for me and i have a million mods
hollow radish
I'll try in set_ability just to be sure
mint heron
seems like a mod conflict, then
which is weird
i did try my best to avoid mod conflicts as much as possible
hollow radish
The self.area check always give out nil
tiny fractal
oh the update
hollow radish
Yea
tiny fractal
yeah cards aren't
created with an area
hollow radish
There's no shop area
hollow radish
Other people might be in the first version
tiny fractal
it works for me because i literally didnt have the update
mint heron
wait what update
hollow radish
1.0.1
tiny fractal
THE ONLY ONE
hollow radish
The one that added the area check lol
mint heron
huh
tiny fractal
funny enough though i think i can trigger it
mint heron
h u h
tiny fractal
if that's the failing part
mint heron
how do i check for when the card is in the collection then
hm
didnt know thats specific to balala updates
hollow radish
Prob a dumb idea but check if G.your_collection exists?
tiny fractal
you literally updated the mod
mint heron
WAIT YOU MEANT STACKED VERSION
hollow radish
??
mint heron
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BALATRO/SMODS VERSION
hollow radish
Bepis we might kill you
mint heron
sob
tiny fractal
WHY WOULD WE BE TALKINGA BOUT BUYING PANTS AT THE SOUP STORE
mint heron
IDK 😭
hollow radish
Pants are tastier if they come from the soup store
hollow radish
Damn
tiny fractal
problem: G.your_collection still exists after being closed
mint heron
mm so sometihng like this?
yeah i was actually concerned that might happen
:remove() doesnt set the cardarea to nil
so it still exists when the cardarea is removed
ghh
is there something to tell if the cardarea is removed??
boreal junco
WHY WOULD WE BE TALKINGA BOUT BUYING PANTS AT THE SOUP STORE
I usually get my pants at the soup store
mint heron
is there *something* to tell if the cardarea is removed??
is it removed from G.I.CARDAREA
when the cardarea is removed
hm
hollow radish
problem: G.your_collection still exists after being closed
Ah fuck
boreal junco
Hi
mint heron
worth a shot, lemme check
tiny fractal
fuck yeah placeholder joker can still trigger it because it just does set_ability on itself in-place lmao
hollow radish
Cheating
tiny fractal
imagine rolling placeholder joker and getting a legendary
tiny fractal
and then you realize the two legendaries it can hit both require OTHER placeholder jokers to be good
anyway this is stacked chat uhhhh stack my jokers
mint heron
its, not using index though
so i cant just refer to G.I.CARDAREA.your_collection
;3
tiny fractal
yes its a numerical table
hasty venture
Wanna see my cat?
hollow radish
Finally
hasty venture
tiny fractal
local dont = false
for k,v in ipairs(G.I.CARDAREA) do
if v.config.collection then dont = true end
end
if dont then DONT end```oooh cute
hasty venture
He’s old
hasty venture
Hehe
tiny fractal
you can also probably break the loop if you find a dont
tiny fractal
i dont believe you
mint heron
sob
tiny fractal
show me (on my computer (from github))
hollow radish
Come to my house and show me
mint heron
sure one sec
sorry im busy, i will tell https://github.com/bepisfever/stacked/releases/tag/V1.0.2 to go to your place instead
download him and let him in your house (computer)
-# i forgot to update version in .json again but whatever
mint heron
lmao
hollow radish
The score I get when all effects are just Spades gives +/XMult
Love my 2 and fake vampires
mint heron
sob
oh yeah i do have some effects i want to add
bleh
the first one is basically destruction prevention but resets the tability table too
so food jokers can be used again
mint heron
bro i just selected my partner : |
hopefully not related to stacked somehow
devout fable
hopefully not related to stacked somehow
im sorry it is
devout fable
idk
mint heron
can you show me the code in aikoshen
devout fable
me too
mint heron
-# what do you mean, you have the file
mint heron
yeah no i dont think my mod should do anything with that
you should send that to aiko though
mint heron
god damn it
mint heron
i just got into shop and this showed
show me the code of that file, i suspect something is doing stuff with my ui code
mint heron
...i dont do anything with that, though
timid vigil
Is this lovely/dump ?
Or regular source code
Because from the path I assume the 2nd
devout fable
regular source
devout fable
chance? nah
ocean owl
oh hey this mod looks cool
coral cargo
actual fire mod
ocean owl
is there any way to change effects once they're on jokers (increase strength, replenish uses, etc)
mint heron
is there any way to change effects once they're on jokers (increase strength, re...
yes, they use calculate
use the same contexts as jokers
so just do stuff with them idk
ocean owl
i mean like in game
mint heron
like, interacting with the effects with outside sources?
ocean owl
kind of
mint heron
effects are stored in card.ability.hsr_extra_effects <- this is a table
ocean owl
like a card that adds 20% of strength to a random effect on a joker (max of 100%)
mint heron
oh, yeah you can definitely do that
just pick a random child (what is this called in lua, in luau its called child) in card.ability.hsr_extra_effects
ocean owl
ill try messing with it later
mint heron
food jokers self destruction WORK now
will be pushed next update alongside new effects
pure frigate
what do percentages mean
mint heron
what do percentages mean
basically, effects have a range of stats they can have
for instance, Joker gives +(x) Hands, x can be 1, 2 or 3
the higher the percentage is, the higher value you got from the pool
0% is the lowest, 100% is the highest (obviousl)
ocean owl
https://gyazo.com/c371a3c35219e3f2ceac7e8e55b30640
btw are the passive effects that have uses just removed when they're done? it seems like they are from the video
cinder drum
egg's on my face for even suggesting a balance change but passive hand increases should be lowered lmfao, getting +3 hands is a lot for a joker
ocean owl
btw are the passive effects that have uses just removed when they're done? it se...
i might cut down my plans from 3 to 1 card then
cant exactly replenish uses if those uses can't be replenished in the first place due to not existing
mint heron
egg's on my face for even suggesting a balance change but passive hand increases...
definitely
im reducing it to +2 next update
ocean owl
Anvil: adds 20% strength to a random Effect (max of 100%)
mint heron
im actually working on an effect pretty similar to that
:3
randomly gives an effect 1%-5% potency at end of round
actually, we should decide on a collective term for this
should it be potency or strength
🤔
ocean owl
potency invites double entendre
tiny fractal
also the potency doesnt even work like i thought it would its just...? a cosmetic number?
ocean owl
also the potency doesnt even work like i thought it would its just...? a cosmeti...
so changing it rn will do nothing anyway?
mint heron
also the potency doesnt even work like i thought it would its just...? a cosmeti...
i kinda thought people would prefer having it optional
mint heron
so changing it rn will do nothing anyway?
you can def change both the potency and the effect
one sec
ocean owl
is the effect tied to the potency, is the potency tied to the effect, or are they independent values currently?
mint heron
they are independent
ocean owl
so yeah changing a value ingame doesnt really do anything to the other value
mint heron
mm just realized my approach is a bit flawed, i was kinda thinking you can use the percentage to increase values of the effect by that amount but then theres some effects that dont want that to happen
hm
might change how potency works to be more connected to the effect then
ocean owl
does the calculate function not reference the current potency at all
mint heron
its ability_table.ability.perfect i think
ocean owl
so is the intended effect for each effect that it has a "100%" value that it then runs through a "multiply by current potency/round if needed" kind of gate and then gives the effect?
mint heron
this is how it would be constructed in a bit
. no wait, maybe it should be the other way around
tiny fractal
i think
list a min and max value and then the potency is the difference
just let that scale between those two points, and have <0% potency go below the min (or >100% potency above the max) at the same rate
mint heron
true
tiny fractal
you also would need a function for updating values of stuff that is on_apply
mint heron
mm i was able to whip up with this, but the thing is: you cant really update the value tied to the potency since:
so im thinking about maybe having all variables attached to the potency stored in a table inside ability?
like this idk, if we agree on this then i can just make a function to increase/decrease the effect's potency and change the values too
dunno whats more annoying, that or this
autumn vortex
would be cool to have an effect that adds an edition after a certain number of hands/rounds
tiny fractal
dunno whats more annoying, that or this
i always like this option more
mint heron
mhm i see
mint heron
would be cool to have an effect that adds an edition after a certain number of h...
good idea
now heres what i can do with update_values:
mmm
i will experiment with the first one and see if its laggy or not
gotta reformat all of the effects first, bleh
who knew managing an api mod is this annoying :3
boreal junco
yes
mint heron
intersetingcting
tiny fractal
tbf eval is all you need
tiny fractal
use eval to call the function(s) watch calls 
mint heron
https://gyazo.com/87038c9a39100503a9bc531178dfaf33 @tiny fractal i got it working me think
boreal junco
man it seem like someone should be using hsl instead of rgb
boreal junco
theres a util to convert
it lets you make a dynamic colour that doesn't become poop brown in the middle easier
boreal junco
can't find it maybe I am imagining things
mint heron
oof
boreal junco
but there is this https://love2d.org/wiki/HSL_color
tiny fractal
https://gyazo.com/87038c9a39100503a9bc531178dfaf33 <@182956788579041280> i got i...
fuck yeah
mint heron
fuck yeah
stacked is updated
"3
:3
download from main branch for the new format code and stuff
mint heron
new effect
ocean owl
how would i poll for an eligible joker in this situation
i mean in terms of jokers that have non-100%'d effects for Anvil
mint heron
this is what i did
thats for the uh effect part, you want a G.jokers.cards loop outside too i assume
ocean owl
isnt that just for the same joker that its on though
mint heron
mhm, but you can do the same for a random joker too, right
teal prairie
local joker_pool = {}
for i,v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.ability.hsr_extra_effects then
for _,vv in ipairs(v.ability.hsr_extra_effects) do
if vv.ability and vv.ability.perfect and vv.ability.perfect < 100 then
joker_pool[#joker_pool+1] = v
break
end
end
end
end
local random_joker = pseudorandom_element(joker_pool, pseudoseed("idk"))
that should give you a random joker that has an effect whose potency is below 100
then you just need to get a random eligible, <100 potency effect from the random joker :3
ocean owl
then you just need to get a random eligible, <100 potency effect from the random...
which i can just copy from jb11 yeah?
mint heron
mhm
ocean owl
i should just be able to replace the random from jb11 with random_joker, yeah?
mint heron
change this to random_joker
ocean owl
wait huh
ocean owl
```lua
local joker_pool = {}
for i,v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.ability...
youve underlined the pool thing thats equivalently here i think
mint heron
```lua
local joker_pool = {}
for i,v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.ability...
no, this one is for eligible jokers pool
mint heron
change this to `random_joker`
this one is for eligible effects pool of the randomly chosen joker
ocean owl
lemme work backwards from where i am rn then
alr so do i change "pool" in the then to random_joker?
mint heron
wat
ocean owl
if i ~= ability_index and v.ability and v.ability.perfect then pool[#pool+1] = v end
mint heron
no, pool is just a table to contain the eligble effects, its not the joker
-# and also, remove i ~= ability_index
mint heron
local joker_pool = {}
for i,v in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if v.ability.hsr_extra_effects then
for _,vv in ipairs(v.ability.hsr_extra_effects) do
if vv.ability and vv.ability.perfect and vv.ability.perfect < 100 then
joker_pool[#joker_pool+1] = v
break
end
end
end
end
local random_joker = pseudorandom_element(joker_pool, pseudoseed("idk"))
if random_joker then
local effect_pool = {}
for _,v in ipairs(random_joker.ability.hsr_extra_effects) do
if v.ability and v.ability.perfect and v.ability.perfect < 100 then effect_pool[#effect_pool+1] = v end
end
local random_effect = pseudorandom_element(effect_pool, pseudoseed("lmao"))
if random_effect then
random_effect.ability.perfect = math.min(random_effect.ability.perfect + 10, 100)
end
end
that should be all
ocean owl
i forgot to set can_use
would this work
seems to work
ill send a video after i get the sillier part of this to work
mint heron
you can totally get .ability.perfect above 100 btw
it doesnt break anything, everything scales properly even above 100 :3
ocean owl
i know but thats an intended limitation of Anvil
if you wanna change it after i pr it you can
ocean owl
wow how useful, during testing i got a four fingers with a certain passive ill show in a sec
anyway it works now so ill pr it in a bit
and pr'd
mint heron
looking forward to it :3
ocean owl
lets hope the pr doesnt introduce any errors
upper rivet
this mod is stacked ngl
tough viper
for some reason localizing the mod in the standard way causes an extra blank line prepended in the desc box
high moat
idk if you know already but i think the retrigger effect causes a crash
tiny fractal
balatro goes
mint heron
for some reason localizing the mod in the standard way causes an extra blank lin...
oh, yeah, localization is unfinished (only finished on my end rn, i will push it later)
mint heron
idk if you know already but i think the retrigger effect causes a crash
might be fixed next version
i think i know whats wrong now
also new effect
:3
mint heron
epic
tiny fractal
stacked
mint heron
download from main branch for extremely cool mod icon btw
mint heron
next update to-do list:
- even more fun, unique effects
- custom skill background color
- vouchers (thanks flote :3)
- ?
oh yeah, vouchers
tiny fractal
whats the voucher plan
mint heron
6 vouchers, 3 of them are basically tier 2 vouchers, increase effect slots, increase chance to spawn effects naturally and increase max potency cap i think
-# basically stuff that people would probably expect stacked to have
plain bison
absolute balatro
ocean owl
next update to-do list:
\- even more fun, unique effects
\- custom skill backgro...
is someone else doing the voucher art
mint heron
flote is doing it
ocean owl
alr
hollow delta
I don’t mind someone with more skill doing it, I can’t draw for the life of me
mint heron
:(
mint heron
aw, its fine
hollow delta
Art is always up for grabs, in my eyes, whos ever looks the best wins
mint heron
can you slide em in my dms though, i will probably whip up some art based on them
hollow delta
sure 1s
mint heron
my art isnt too good either but i think id rather not trouble people with my work too much :p
hollow delta
WAIT, THIS WAS THE ICON? WAIT, I THINK I CAN DRAW IT
@mint heron You never seemed to put the icon in the newst branch
hollow delta
theres only the anvil
hollow delta
thats why i did blacksmithing 😭
mint heron
im terribly sorry.
hollow delta
its alright lol, we make mistakes
hollow delta
pov refreshing the pagel like a madman until it updates
mint heron
it already did if it says "aiko the goat"
it says 5 hours ago because i published the changes but didnt push
hollow delta
why does it still say 5 hours ago then
mint heron
;3
hollow delta
i might be able to do the vouchers then
mint heron
nice, looking forward to it :3
hollow delta
both tiers, correct?
mint heron
mhm
hollow delta
okay just checking :3
mint heron
this should prepare me for adding the extra effect slots voucher tmr :3
we are stacking it
cinder drum
can't wait to stack stack stack stack stack stack
upper rivet
stack my stack
cinder drum
is there gonna be a spectral or something along those lines that allows you to merge joker passive/attack effects together to get even more potency
tough viper
played couple runs with it last night it's genuinely fun
tough viper
a reminder, the 'left' and 'right' from joker_buff14 is hardcoded. maybe make them be able to be localized
tough viper
the prevent from destroy effect gave the game a no log crash upon triggered by Plantain mod's plantain joker
rebooted then retried. fixed itself. classic.
mint heron
a reminder, the 'left' and 'right' from `joker_buff14` is hardcoded. maybe make ...
mhm, i will do that
mint heron
ocean owl
nice
mint heron
tiny fractal
destruction prevention effects can apply when a card is left in a booster pack
mint heron
destruction prevention effects can apply when a card is left in a booster pack
blegh
hm
do you happen to know what cardarea has the booster pack cards :3
tiny fractal
nope :3
mint heron
3:
cinder drum
actually this reminds me
What if you could get effects on vouchers
like the effects come with the vouchers
mint heron
elaborate
tiny fractal
cinder drum
elaborate
each voucher sometimes come with an effect just like jokers do
thats what I mean
mint heron
the idea of Stacked is to have even the normally bad jokers be given effects that could make them worthwhile to pick up, this opens up more varieties to your run where not just the main effect of the jokers, but their extra effects matter too
vouchers arent the same, you can buy all of them, unlike jokers with a limited amount you can carry
that just seems more like a direct buff to vouchers, which is technically what stacked does to jokers too but not the exact thing im going for
hollow delta
Honestly can’t wait for cross mod compatibility of this mod
mint heron
-# its already there, wdym...
upper rivet
my mod will have one in its next update probably
tiny fractal
gestures at the sign
hollow delta
i cant read
mint heron
Stacked (V1.0.3)
hollow delta
wow version names, we are truly in a new age
mint heron
true...
mint heron
reorganized the mod's files
mint heron
the first passive without potency
hollow delta
hey look ma, my name!
hasty venture
the first passive without potency
Actually would be op w modded jokers
cinder drum
got this crash log trying to use a buffoon tag or whatever its called
spring field
Idk if this is intentional or not, but the effect that allows a Joker to copy the Joker to the right but decreases its Mult/Chips gain seems to also decrease Mult/Chips of the joker itself
hasty venture
mint heron
mod development continues after 2 days
plain bison
exciting
mint heron
hollow delta
horray
mint heron
next update
cinder drum
if you can, make the passives that prevent card destruction or whatever not be a decimal point like I'm not understanding wtf 7.09 cards could even constitute
even if it just rounds to the nearest number
mint heron
thats a fair one, fixing next update
plain bison
if you can, make the passives that prevent card destruction or whatever not be a...
bepis will take a 9% sized bite out of your card
mint heron
# It is preferred that you download directly from main branch!
https://github.co...
@velvet quest can u pin this rq :3 thankk
mint heron
hollow delta
I feel like this one isnt too obvious, for Fast Pacing, does it retrigger once every hand for that round or what? also the higher potenicy makes the once in X rounds more rounds and im not sure if that should be the case
oh nvm, i just cant read
also found a 42.9%
hasty venture
also found a 42.9%
why is faceless joker a boykis- WHY ARE BOTH OF THEM BOY KISSER
hollow delta
looks at pfp, looks at ur message
hasty venture
I ain't judging just asking
visual pagoda
peak mod
mint heron
mod seems to have a bit of conflict with entropy rn, um
visual pagoda
mod seems to have a bit of conflict with entropy rn, um
lyric mirage
hey i think comedy degree has the wrong sprite
i downloaded from main like 10 minutes ago
it doesn't have the tier 2 voucher tab
also hi it's me again
mint heron
marie!
lyric mirage
whats the effect
10% increased effect potency
mint heron
yeah thats the correct sprite
lyric mirage
is it not a tier 2 voucher
mint heron
the right one is
lyric mirage
well then why does it not have the tier 2 voucher tab
mint heron
3: that exists??
lyric mirage
yes you
used it on the other tier 2 vouchers
what do you mean you didn't know about it
mint heron
what the
lyric mirage
3: that exists??
look at the voucher tab on the other tier 2
hollow delta
Whats your opinion on Sticker Exclusive Effects?
like an effect that can only appear on a joker with that sticker
cinder drum
wanted to let you know just whenever you see this that the newest version of stacked sometimes doesn't show any effects under extra effects
it used to only happen if a joker was created but now it sometimes happens in booster packs
mint heron
im like, half sure thats a mod conflict but idk
cinder drum
ah maybe but just wanted to let you know for future updates
it primarily is a toss-up if it happens at all
cuz sometimes it will work as intended
mint heron
currently im aware that it happens with entropy
it might be because of conflicts in hooks/patches (basically, stuff that alters the behavior of vanilla functions so that we can get our stuff working)
3:
though what im most confused about is that entropy doesnt seem to have, anything that should affect stacked in particular so i havent been able to get to the root of this bug yet
mint heron
tiny fractal
stacked
mint heron
it can be potentially very broken, thats why its locked behind a soul-rarity consumable :p
mint heron
it checks the context
lyric mirage
uhhh
what if I have a joker that resets a value during context.before and does nothing else in that context
mint heron
lyric mirage
would it be able to make a useless timing effect in context.before for that joker
if hypothetically that were the case
mint heron
yeah, since i dont think theres a good way to check for "useless" effects 🤔
lyric mirage
you could make it so a joker can opt out of specific timings
that would require other people to support it but it would solve the problem by manual verification
mint heron
mm
lyric mirage
(also if you haven't already you should make the consumable not work/not be spent if no valid timings are available that sounds like an issue it could have)
mint heron
(how do i even do that sob)
i dont think i can check if a joker does anything in context.joker_main, for instance
some jokers do stuff that dont need return
mint heron
yeah exactly lol
lyric mirage
red seal steel kings got a new supporter
tbf, it is a legendary that gives very strong xmult
which happens to support the most broken vanilla strategy
mint heron
theres also one that triggers context.joker_main for each card in hand, though it does have a 12 rounds duration at 100% potency
lyric mirage
i'm not a huge fan of the duration based effects tbh
mint heron
yeah fair
lyric mirage
it feels like it should be more like degrading potency
than the effect just turns off
mint heron
im not a fan of that too lol, but i dont think i can even have that effect without that kind of restriction
lyric mirage
i don't remember the exact effects but also i think the
turns +mult into xmult one
is bugged
mint heron
jokers with context.joker_main tend to have much higher xmult compared to jokers that give xmult per (x) card, so if they got this passive they are gonna be busted as hell
mint heron
turns +mult into xmult one
im p sure i fixed it in v1.0.5
lyric mirage
okay
mint heron
it was an issue with how i used modify_calculate
lyric mirage
yeah some things were just giving xmult for no reason
mint heron
oh thats
new
what i fixed is that sometimes the +mult -> xmult can kinda trigger more than once
because i directly changed the calculate's return table while also iterating it
which can cause it to go back to +mult and redo the check
lyric mirage
i don't recall exactly what happened but after i got a joker with the transformation thing some of my jokers started giving xmult for no reason
even if they didn't return anything previously
mint heron
odd
mint heron
oh, might be because i didnt add a v ~= 0 check
3:
hopefully both should be fixed in the latest main branch
idk
lyric mirage
yes hopefully
how could I create a timing based effect
if I wanted to make a new timing for a specific thing
mint heron
:3
mint heron
.
oh fuck
yeah thanks lmao
i really shouldve used Stacked.extra_effect from the beginning 3:
i dont like manually adding into the table
mint heron
I don't understand this
this effect in particular is "end of round effects trigger on hand played"
so im checking whenever context.before and context.main_eval is run, and return end_of_round context in there
lyric mirage
what if I wanted to make a timing effect that makes extra card effects trigger on every card
when my jokers detect cards scored by splash
mint heron
mmm
lyric mirage
they always go through the same 1 function when they make the checks
but the contexts are not uniform
mint heron
im pretty sure you can go through every jokers, check card.ability.hsr_extra_effects, grab the key and pass it into ExtraEffects[key].calculate to run the calculate and use that one SMODS function to run the return of that
but the main problem is the context though, this is kinda a force_trigger situation lol
lyric mirage
is there not a way I can hardcode it
mint heron
not really, cryptid had to manually add force_trigger effects for all of the vanilla jokers after all
lyric mirage
this isn't a thing that other mods do afaik
I would be surprised if there was another mod that made effects which activate on cards scored by splash
mint heron
I would be surprised if there was another mod that made effects which activate o...
oh, this one should be possible i think? but i dont think theres any check for whenever splash is scoring a card though 🤔 if its just a specific effect that capitalizes on splash's scoring then you can add a custom context to the effect's calculate, then make it so the context only ever goes through during that specific scenario
lyric mirage
not really, cryptid had to manually add force_trigger effects for *all* of the v...
but couldn't I do something along the lines of
lyric mirage
oh, this one should be possible i think? but i dont think theres any check for w...
well I check it with the same function every time whenever I do an extra card effect
is that not how this works
mint heron
oh, this one should be possible i think? but i dont think theres any check for w...
id assume its something like this
mint heron
you can just have about any context in the effect's calculate, you got jokers that can detect cards scored by splash already right?
just pass {on_splash_scoring = true} in the context argument of effects' calculate and it should work
lyric mirage
i don't think that would work
the joker would return this after it has already performed the check which would render it pointless
lyric mirage
velvet quest
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
if card_is_splashed(context.other_card) == true then
return {
mult = card.ability.extra.mult,
card = card
}
end
end
end
soaked joker
card_is_splashed(card) returns true if it was scored by splash and false if it wasn't
unless I can send a context from the... function?
lyric mirage
and then have the function receive another context which tells it to flag true
mint heron
lemme give u an example of what i meant
lyric mirage
wait but if the function returns a context then the function ends
so that doesn't work
mint heron
calculate = function(self, card, context)
if context.individual and context.cardarea == G.play then
if card_is_splashed(context.other_card) == true then
for _,joker in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if joker.ability.hsr_extra_effects then
for i,v in ipairs(joker.ability.hsr_extra_effects) do
if v.key and ExtraEffects[v.key] and ExtraEffects[v.key].calculate and type(ExtraEffects[v.key].calculate) == "function" then
local ret = ExtraEffects[v.key].calculate(joker, {on_splash_scoring = true}, v, i)
if ret then
SMODS.calculate_effect(ret, joker)
end
end
end
end
end
return {
mult = card.ability.extra.mult,
card = card
}
end
end
end
this is how i would do it
lyric mirage
oh god
yeah i don't understand how or why this would work
the card has already decided that it is checking an extra scored card before the other code happens and that means the output won't change
mint heron
the card has already decided that it is checking an extra scored card before the...
🤔 i dont think im following, what do you mean by "the output wont change"
lyric mirage
if card_is_splashed(context.other_card) == true then
this line of code has already passed and decided that context.other_card is an extra scored card which triggers the rest of the effect
if you were to manually change the outcome after every single instance of this
it would have to be hardcoded into every single joker
this effect should make the outcome of card_is_splashed always return true if it is present
I would be able to code that into the function itself by adding an argument to card_is_splashed and making it return true if the joker has the effect
the thing I don't get is how I would make these jokers able to accept that effect (without having to hardcode two loops and two if statements into every joker that could use it)
mint heron
this is what you want to do right
lyric mirage
i'm so confused
mint heron
whats confusing tho
- the joker checks for whether the card is scored by splash (which can be affected by other effects)
- if it is, trigger effects with the new on_splash_scoring context
lyric mirage
that would require me to change the code of every joker that does that
can't I just do something like this inside the function that checks it
function card_is_splashed(card, joker)
---i know this statement wouldn't actually make the check properly but it's an example
if joker.has_extra_card_stacked_effect then
return true
end
--- rest of function down here i cut it off so it's smaller
this would work for everything without requiring me to change anything other than adding an extra argument to card_is_splashed
the problem is how I flag these jokers as being able to obtain the effect that triggers this
mint heron
im also pretty sure you can just do this too
lyric mirage
well that would make a stacked effect that makes extra scored cards do something
that's not a bad idea actually
I want to make a timing effect that overrides the extra scored card check
it doesn't have to do anything in its own code I can just hardcode the functinality into my check function
but it needs to know somehow which jokers do that
that's the step that I don't get
mint heron
I want to make a timing effect that overrides the extra scored card check
can i have some more context on the "overrides the extra scored card check" part 🤔 i think i have an idea but i gotta be sure first
lyric mirage
can't I just do something like this inside the function that checks it
```lua
fu...
this
this code is inside the check function
the joker would send itself along with the card being checked in card_is_splashed(card, context.other_card for example
so the function can check if the joker has the stacked effect which makes it always return true
mint heron
oh i see, you can just add a flag to the effect in which case
function card_is_splashed(card, joker)
---i know this statement wouldn't actually make the check properly but it's an example
for _,j in ipairs(G.jokers.cards) do
if j.ability.hsr_extra_effects then
for i,v in pairs(j.ability.hsr_extra_effects) do
if v.key and ExtraEffects[v.key] and ExtraEffects[v.key].always_splash then return true end
end
end
end
--- rest of function down here i cut it off so it's smaller
then just add this here
if you only want the override to be specific to one joker, then run through only that one specific joker instead of every jokers
lyric mirage
I think I misunderstood how timing effects work
mint heron
yeah your thing isnt really what timing effects do
lyric mirage
i thought it would be to where like, a joker could only have a <x context> happesn on <y> if it had x context in the first place
mint heron
what timing effects do is essentially rerunning the joker's calculate with a new set of context on a specific timing
i dont think what you are doing is anything related to that, though
lyric mirage
yeah it doesn't seem like it
is there any rarity system for this
this is a very powerful effect in the context of my mod
so i wouldnt want it to be too common
hollow delta
Can timing spawn naturally?
mint heron
Can timing spawn naturally?
no
mint heron
cinder drum
I think with those kinda effects they should have unique text colors
like some rainbow lookin thing or smth cuz that effect is very powerful and should be paid special attention to
mint heron
thats true
cinder drum
are you gonna add more effects like that or just that one
lyric mirage
i'll add one if i can figure it out
i'm looking into it
doesn't seem so bad but i'm not quite sure yet
lyric mirage
who is bro running from
lyric mirage
2 other things during this run
2.5. what the hell does the "Blueprint?" effect mean
it reads like
"copy ability of joker to the left, but the copied effect gives X0.4 less mult"
but is it actually
"copy ability of joker to the left, but this joker gives X0.4 less mult"
mint heron
1. anvil crashed on use towards the end of a very good run
no clue about this one, what was the craah
mint heron
2. the "when joker destroyed, add 2 random attack effects to other jokers" effec...
if all of your jokers have max effect slots then it wont work
mint heron
it reads like
"copy ability of joker to the left, but the copied effect gives X0...
its the joker :3
lyric mirage
no clue about this one, what was the craah
it was on line 35 in consumables.lua iirc? checking log
lyric mirage
if all of your jokers have max effect slots then it wont work
I had at least two splashes and 1 philosophical joker and 2 waterfall loop without max effect slots
[SMODS stacked "code/consumables.lua"]:35: attempt to index local 'random' (a nil value)
i had used anvil 2 times previously in the run and it worked
the final time it just decided not to?
mint heron
ocean owl
seems like it crashed around those two, but like?
the sole random here should be the nil check
lyric mirage
hey i don't think this is supposed to be a decimal?
cinder drum
think they said they'd fix it soon
tiny fractal
stacked is so stacked
long raptor
unsure if this is intentional but effects related to destruction consider selling as destroying
lyric mirage
this also causes jokers with "destruction doesn't happen 2 times" to not be spent when you fuse them with fusionjokers
although that is because they are actually destroyed and not because they are "sold"
long raptor
that ones funny since it basically triples sell value lol
its not considered for things like temperance but you get 3x the money from it
magic glade
well this is just
what's the point of this 
tiny fractal
it can be upgraded later with the anvil spectral card....
lyric mirage
it can be upgraded later with the anvil spectral card....
the anvil spectral and its timely crash inspired the creation of this guy
but also I am not doing allat just for anvil to have a random chance to not hit the right joker anyway
cinder drum
the anvil spectral and its timely crash inspired the creation of this guy
"we're out of anvils"
mint heron
sob
im not surprised that you think thats the case honestly
autumn might be using stacked more than me at this point 😭
plain bison
autumn might be using stacked more than me at this point 😭
The chef stays in the kitchen
Keep cooking king
(yes this is random bs)
mint heron
it does go lowkey hard ngl
lyric mirage
this effect feels a little bit powerful
yknow just a tad strong
oh my god i just got another joker with that effect
mint heron
oh damn yeah you are right
thats more busted than i thought
maybe i should have it decrease at the end of round too lol
lyric mirage
mint heron
jesus christ
lyric mirage
maybe i should have it decrease at the end of round too lol
either make it increase after defeating blinds/end of round, or give it a sell value cap at say, 5X the joker's base value
mint heron
ice was right, me and making the game much easier is just peak duo
lyric mirage
selling jokers is a very easy condition to meet
i mean have you seen zombie joker in SDM_0's
that shit busted as hell
mint heron
true...
-# i havent lol
but my idea was like its related to the economy, you sell shit a lot and the price also goes up
stuff like that
lyric mirage
the only thing that could stop me is if i get that sell value bug
that resets the sell value
mint heron
it does that when Card:set_cost() is run
for some reason it resets card.sell_value
shrug
lyric mirage
i already got that bug once on the splash
mint heron
i gotta fix that in the next hot fix
i think i gotta add to card.ability.extra_value instead lol
lyric mirage
eehehee
long raptor
maybe the inflation effect couldve been flat value instead of multiplicative
so like add (however many)% of sell value of sold jokers to this joker
empty cedar
either make it increase after defeating blinds/end of round, or give it a sell v...
option 3, make it increase additively
gets the sell value on creation and increases by +some% of that
lyric mirage
baron and mime showed up
in an abandoned deck run...
so i heard you like sell effects
lyric mirage
my mod has become cryptid
tis the risk of percentile based money gain
mint heron
help
long raptor
cool
mint heron
probably later but i gotta finish my online class first
lyric mirage
ive got the ultimate synergy here
tiny fractal
this effect feels a little bit powerful
this should have smth like hermit or temperance and have a max gain
cinder drum
did anyone ever figure out what was causing the extra effects hook to not show up under a card
like this stuff
long raptor
did you press shift+x
cinder drum
attempted to yes
cinder drum
wanted to let you know just whenever you see this that the newest version of sta...
I already did report this as an issue but i wasn't sure if there was any progress made on figuring out the cause
tiny fractal
its some kind of mod conflict, used to happen with entropy and no longer does
cinder drum
does it? I literally have the most recent commit
hollow delta
Does Recycling reset Perishable?
long raptor
crash on a FuA joker (though if this was bc of the joker's effect i wouldnt be surprised
long raptor
i think it was just a joker that wouldve been buggy with being triggered (pomni joker from lucky rabbit)
coarse bluff
does anvil have a condition to make it useable? as in is there any reason that upon having it (or it and a joker idk) selected that it would not allow you to use it?
mint heron
does anvil have a condition to make it useable? as in is there any reason that u...
if the joker doesnt have an effect/only effects with no potency, or already max potency cap
coarse bluff
i think anvil is potentially busted then, as i can not get it to work at all even if every joker i have has an effect with potency that isnt maxxed. i tried disabling every mod other than anvil and debugplus and it still wouldnt work so idk
austere tendon
also reporting anvil is still bugged
long raptor
follow up attacks Do Not
blissful dome
also found a 42.9%
is this a mod that changes jokers to boykisser
mint heron
lemme fix this rq
hollow delta
is this a mod that changes jokers to boykisser
yes
mint heron
oh yeah i see the issue for the follow up one
help
while im on it lemme rebalance inflation
https://github.com/bepisfever/stacked/releases/tag/V1.0.6b maybe thats all
cinder drum
I'll admit I'm salty but there should be a config to turn of cursed abilities
cinder drum
also hope you can find a fix for the weird "stacked effects not showing up sometimes on jokers" bug
lyric mirage
@mint heron can you make it so jokers that get saved from destruction by stacked effects turn off their card.getting_sliced if they had it
ceremonial dagger won't trigger again on those cards after it triggers the death save once
among other getting_sliced related calculations being permanently disabled on that joker
lyric mirage
i dont mean to ping twice but
the wider reach timing effect seems to be bugged?
I might be stupid
is it for every joker or just the joker it's on
hollow delta
gimmie
i like completely forgot, here.
https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1353142248367329391
blissful dome
i like completely forgot, here.
https://discord.com/channels/111638902717678796...
thanks
kind sinew
This looks very interesting I have to try it
kind sinew
I just try and amazing mod, but how come some Jokers have abilities and others don't
lyric mirage
I just try and amazing mod, but how come some Jokers have abilities and others d...
it's random
not guaranteed to have stacked abilities
kind sinew
it's random
Oh I didn't know how it worked, I also so there some cross mod additions to it too
kind sinew
I recently found this easily crashes when pair with a few mods, like Gemstone or Paperback
terse oasis
Is there config for this mod?
