Real-estate (rare)

[harsh whale]

It gives you 10 chips

You have to buy it from the shop for 25 money

Its sell value is 45 money

Its sell value drops by 10 per hand played

[dark jetty]

So it's just +$20 if you have a free joker slot and $25?

Because I don't see any reason to keep it around if it only gives +10 chips

[harsh whale]

Yes thats the point

[dark jetty]

Hermit already basically does the same thing, but it's not a rare joker and it doesn't require a consumable slot

[harsh whale]

True

[dark jetty]

It also allows you to hold onto it without the money received from it dropping automatically

[harsh whale]

Maybe ill increase the money

Both require and profit

[dark jetty]

I don't think that adjusting the numbers will make this interesting/fun

I think it needs to be reworked

Also I don't see the point of making it give +10 chips, that just seems like unnecessary bloat

[harsh whale]

Meant to show its bad

[dark jetty]

That's bad joker design, if a joker is based around money then you don't need to add in other effects

Look at Egg, Golden Joker, Satellite, any other econ joker

[thick island]

trading card

[languid pollen]

Trading card's most useful use is destroying cards not money. The $3 is like a bonus incase you have a rental joker

[dark jetty]

I disagree, both the $3 and destroying cards serve a purpose

Especially earlygame, that $3 can be enough to bump you over the interest threshold for example

[languid pollen]

Wrong reply

Plus I didn't say the $3 wasn't useful. I said it was less useful

[dark jetty]

That was more directed at them because they provided Trading Card as an example of a useless extra effect

I was disagreeing with the idea that the $3 from trading card is useless filler

[languid pollen]

Yeah. But a rental trading card isn't much worse because. Rental usually is annoying because it can take you under the interest. But with trading card money it counteracts that perfectly

[dark jetty]

Fair point

Yeah, the main allure of trading card is obviously for its deck thinning capabilities, but the money can be a helpful side bonus as well

I don't really see +10 chips as much of a helpful side bonus though

It also doesn't really make sense with the theme of the joker (it makes sense for trading card since you're "selling" the card)

[languid pollen]

Like if trading card didn't have the money it would still be really good. But I think LT thought that only destroying cards was a good effect, so they added $3 on top of that

[languid pollen]

I think because otherwise it does nothing

Like less than egg nothing

[dark jetty]

I think the reason LocalThunk added the $3 was because of theming more than anything else

[languid pollen]

It should increase if you beat the house

[languid pollen]

Fair point

[dark jetty]

As in the boss blind?

[languid pollen]

Yes

[dark jetty]

Because that's way too conditional and adds even more bloat

[languid pollen]

It was a joke but okay

[dark jetty]

Oh, sorry I missed that

My bad

[languid pollen]

Also - $10 is so bad that you should just buy and sell this

Plus this breaks a rules of balatro where
Sell value is 1/2*base cost, rounded half down

[dark jetty]

I think it would be okay as long as the "sell value is $45" is included in the description (there's already jokers that can alter sell value)

I don't think the concept works though

[dark jetty]

Like I said up here, I think it just ends up being Hermit but as a Joker

The reason something like Egg or Gift works as a concept is that you can hold onto it for a while and decide whether to cash in or keep growing it, but there isn't really any decision making here; there's no reason to hold on to the Joker because it just deteriorates in value

[languid pollen]

What happens after 5 hands then

[dark jetty]

You mean to this Joker? I'm guessing it would self-destruct but idk

[languid pollen]

-5 sell value goes hard

[dark jetty]

I think the game only supports a minimum of $1 sell value

[languid pollen]

No 0 works

[dark jetty]

Does it? Guess I'm incorrect then nevermind