Theorist joker (rare)

[slender sparrow]

Played cards of [suit] decrease in rank, suit changes each round

(REVERSE STRENGTH JOKER)

[half cobalt]

does it count towards making hands

[sage spade]

Probably not

That’d be too good

[half cobalt]

if it doesn't it kind of just

does nothing

[lethal surge]

If one guy can delete 30 minutes of work "on acident" then you can delete 30 seconds of shower thoughts on purpose

[sage spade]

What is bro yapping about

[lethal surge]

You know you did that right

[sage spade]

I never did that

[lethal surge]

https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1398083946956456016

[sage spade]

Are you stupid?

[half cobalt]

that's a completely different person

[lethal surge]

I know that. That's why I said "if one guy can" that one guy being @graceful spire

[half cobalt]

goalpost moving is crazy

[lethal surge]

It was a reference because I thought it was funny

[ashen turret]

Yeah, it turns the cards into kings probably after scoring. (Basing it on Vampire not changing the hand type)

[half cobalt]

so would 2 kings, a jack and a queen be a 4oak

[ashen turret]

Not initially, but they become kings for the next time you play them

I think, that would be consistent

[half cobalt]

oh so they're converted

ok that would be pretty strong if it works like that

[ashen turret]

Yeah, I think it does since it does mention pareidolia breaking deck fixing

[lethal surge]

Is two 7's, two 2's and a stone that is a 2 a full house if you have vampire.

Is the closest thing I think

[half cobalt]

the hand is made before vamp activates

[ashen turret]

My problem with this, besides pareidolia breaking it, is that it has no downside? I’m not saying it needs to take money or some random thing like that, just that you have literally no reason not to take this

[slender sparrow]

Yeah rares should have downsides

[ashen turret]

Like if it turned your faces into 7s or something like that it’d be a less insta pick option, but kings are the best rank already

[slender sparrow]

Oooo wait played face cards are converted into kings for each rank of difference lose 1 dollar

So a jack to a king would be 2 dollars lost in the conversation

[half cobalt]

i mean i prefer deckfixing towards queens or jacks if i'm running face cards

[slender sparrow]

Neat

[half cobalt]

simply because you get more compatible cards with your jokers with them

but getting instant 4oak is pretty cool anyways

[ashen turret]

I kinda like jacks the most but that’s a lil off topic

[slender sparrow]

I mean hey we could switch it to jacks

If we allow like jacks more

[half cobalt]

that'd make it worse for trib

so like

there is a downside atleast

[slender sparrow]

Well i did add the money part here

I would like opinions on that

[ashen turret]

The difference between each face is negligible, changing it to jacks wouldn’t change anything tbh

[lethal surge]

But so does this joker

[ashen turret]

Tbh even with losing a bit more money, I’m not a fan of this much immediate deck fixing

[slender sparrow]

Yeah I know just jacks are cool (and also it brings kings and queens back a rank so its something that strength can't do

Hmmm thats actually something there

This really is a spit ball forum

Played cards of [suit] decrease in rank suit changes each round

[half cobalt]

yeah i thought it worked like pareidolia did

[slender sparrow]

Its still a pretty strong deck fixer so still rare

[graceful spire]

who has summoned me

[graceful spire]

also that makes deck fixing so easy

[rose locust]

this does enable 4oak in maybe 2 rounds

which is pretty crazy

[lethal surge]

Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure

[slender sparrow]

i mean if you want to have lets say like ten 2s you need to wait ten rounds. its slower than DNA and doesnt copy editions enhancements and seal (obvously) but instead makes it so your deck has less devalued cards (like random 8s)

(you also cant use the 2's untill you sell the joker unless they are of the other suits)

[half cobalt]

retriggers don't matter as much when you have +3+30 per planet

[slender sparrow]

??

i mean i guess it would sound retrigger compatible

but what are you talking about 4 of a kind scaling?

[half cobalt]

it's enough for ante 8 with multipliers

[slender sparrow]

yeah i know

4 of a kind scaleing is good (its so close to 5 of a kind honesty i dont think 5 of a kind is as good anymore(four of a kind to flush five is my prefered way now))

[half cobalt]

the difference is 5 chips

so

[rose locust]

i was replying to the first version, this one seems more fun and balanced

[slender sparrow]

yes i've stoped suggesting things and i wanted to start again and so even if i didnt have a good idea i wanted to write something (but hey now we got a good joker)

so thank you

[half cobalt]

oh

yeah this idea is cooler