Reversed Tarot Cards

[earnest patrol]

They could add to the game the possibility of buying or getting such cards in the. Store or packs, but these would have effects based on their normal counterparts.

Reversed Fool: creates a reversed copy of the last tarot card (in case you played an reversed tarot card, it would create a normal copy, but not planet cards)

Reversed Magician: Select one Lucky Card. Add +1 to all chances. (1 in 5 becomes 2 in 5 etc) (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed High Priestess: Create a Planet Card of the last played Poker Hand. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Empress: Select one Mult Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Holographic. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Empereor: Destroy a tarot card and spawn a random spectral card

Reversed Hierophant: Select one Bonus Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Foil. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Lovers: Select one Wild Card in your hand, will create a copy of it. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Chariot: Select one Steel Card in your hand, will add a random Seal to it. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Justice: Select one Glass Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Polychrome. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Hermit: you will lose half of your money (max. 20), and make 1 item from the shop free per 10 money lost by this effect (including Vouchers)

Reversed Wheel of Fortune: 1/4 of turning a Joker of your choice into another random Joker of the same rarity. 1/10 of giving Negative to that Joker (idea by Player1)

Reversed Strength: Reduces the category of two cards of your choice by 1

Reversed Hanged Man: Create 2 random cards in your hand (with possibilities of Enhancements, Editions and Seals, this would synergize with the Illusion Voucher) (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Death: Turns a random card from your hand into any card (with possibilities of Enhancements, Editions and Seals, this would synergize with the Illusion Voucher) (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Temperance: Raises the sell value of all currently held Jokers and Consumables by 2. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Devil: Select one Gold Card, destroy it to gain 20$. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Tower: Select one Stone Card, double its Chip value. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed Star: Diamond cards in your hand will turn into other suit of your choice

Reverse Moon: Club cards in your hand will turn into other suit of your choice

Reversed Sun: The heart cards in your hand will turn into other suit of your choice

Reversed Judgment: Select a Joker. Destroys that Joker and has a 1 in 10 chance to make a random Joker Negative. (idea by Hofnarr)

Reversed World: The spade cards in your hand will turn into other suit of your choice

[warm nexus]

I think this has potential, but I would suggest a few changes, above all, that they only appear once you used the original one:

Reversed Magician: Select one Lucky Card. Add +1 to all chances. (1 in 5 becomes 2 in 5 etc)

Reversed High Priestess: Create a Planet Card of the last played Poker Hand.

Reversed Empress: Select one Mult Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Holographic.

Reversed Hierophant: Select one Bonus Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Foil.

Reversed Lovers: Select one Wild Card, will create a copy of it.

Reversed Chariot: Select one Steel Card, will add a random Seal to it

Reversed Justice: Select one Glass Card, it loses the Enhancement but becomes Polychrome.

Reversed Hermit: you will lose half of your money (max. 20), but 2 random items in the store will be free.
(I think it should also apply to the voucher)

Reversed Death: Turns a random card into a different card (with possibilities of Enhancements, Editions and Seals, this would synergize with the Illusion Voucher)

Reversed Temperance: Raises the sell value of all currently held Jokers and Consumables by 1.

Reversed Devil: Select one Gold Card, destroy it to gain 20$.

Reversed Tower: Select one Stone Card, double its Chip value.

Reversed Judgment: Select a Joker. Destroys that Joker and has a 1 in 10 chance to make a random Joker Negative.

[umbral apex]

With reversed wheel of fortune chicot is finally useful

[umbral bronze]

great concept (do you play tboi??) but the cards effects are odd

all of the "X cards in your hand will turn into random X" feels kinda counter intuitive once you remember you are the one that made them like that in the first place, and
death/hanged man/trading card/dna kinda work in deck maintaining anyways

reverse wof would only be really useful for like obelisk or chicot

you could make them rarer and more powerful versions of tarots like:

Reverses Devil: Chosen card becomes a gold card and gets a gold seal

or you could make the "turn X into random" not random and have it snowball so you can quickly organize your deck like:

Reversed Devil: Golden cards in your hand will lose the upgrade, becoming steel cards instead
(maybe not steel as midas mask would be op, but you get the idea)
(suits not included)

or you could make them further upgrade to their tarot counterparts like:

Reversed Devil: Golden cards in your hand will get +$1 when held in hand at end of round
or
Reversed Sun: Jokers that specify in heart cards trigger again for this card!
(limit of like 3 or smth idk)

something between spectral and tarot

r. death is really cool
r. tower could give stone cards mult?
r. judgement could be buffed, but is also good as is
I can't see a use case for r. hermit except if youre already poor
r. hanged man could choose the cards randomly from your deck, or the cards that you have the most of from your deck
r. fool is cool
r. high priestess needs a buff
r. emperor is cool
I feel like r. lovers suit the card, so maybe that ones fine
r. temperance could be cool with a buff

idk tho just my opinion, i think adding a layer of additional complexity for v1.1 could be cool.
could also be an easter egg to tboi if instead of "reversed <tarot>" it was names "<tarot>?"

[earnest patrol]

Yep, or well, I played it when I still had a PC, although it is also a reference to the fact that in the Tarot the cards can be used face up or Reversed. And well, the idea came to me instantly as I write it, but I'm glad that you suggest changes to the effects of Reversed Tarot cards

Below I update the idea with your suggestions (and give credit to all of you for the ideas)

[earnest patrol]

That's it, I've already put several of your suggested ideas in the comment, giving you credit for it

[warm nexus]

eyy, thanks

[earnest patrol]

You're Welcome :3

[worldly gull]

This is how the server should be

[earnest patrol]

Thx :3

[worldly gull]

See exactly my point

[earnest patrol]

If anyone else has suggestions for the effects of the reversed cards, you can tell me here to modify the suggestion (and give you credits for the ideas)

[worldly gull]

@earnest patrol escape this hell while your soul is good. Don't ever go to the sheet or you will be doomed to an eternity of suffering and pain

AKA you're really nice

I know this sounds weird so you should go over this with @warm nexus

But steel could only give red or blue because the others are bad with steel. But they can still work, just less

I thought maybe hermit could be changed because losing up to $20 for two free things is almost never worth. But I don't have a better idea so just keep it.

Why doesn't R.wheel have a 1 in 4 or maybe 1 in 8 chance for a negative joker. Seems really strong but also makes sense

Remember: before you do anything ask someone more experienced than me like @warm nexus

Thank you for reading my absolute shit show of an opinion

[worldly gull]

Ayo

[warm nexus]

I appreciate the shout!

I proposed a "random seal to a steel card" because otherwise it would be too powerful, like one of the spectral cards.

But 1/8 to turn a joker of your choice negative sounds good, yeah!

and the R.hermit is true, however, it's worth if you spend down a little. you gotta work for it being worth a little.
but it should be able to hit vouchers, now that I think about it.

what do you think @earnest patrol ?

[earnest patrol]

The vouchers with R. Hermit could be a bit OP in a normal run, but in an advanced run or with greater stakes it could come in quite well

[warm nexus]

I mean that's what makes it a great card. Any Hermit is a free voucher if you already have 10$ anyways

[earnest patrol]

Let's do this instead, how about making 1 item in the shop free for every 10 gold reduced by the effect? And that item can be a Voucher, a pack or anything in the Shop, but no the restock, that will maintain their cost (depending if you have or not the restock vouchers)

[warm nexus]

I'm not here to argue. You do as you choose

[dusk nexus]

How are y'all this nice. I aspire to be like you guys

[dusk nexus]

A poyo!!!

[earnest patrol]

Poyo~ :3

[dusk nexus]

What

[warm nexus]

Poyo :3

[dusk nexus]

Poyo :3

[hoary iris]

An isaac reference I like it

[earnest patrol]

webo

[earnest patrol]

Partly yes, but also because of how the Tarot works, since they mean one thing at one side, but another thing at reverse

[hoary iris]

Interesante

[earnest patrol]

En efecto, mi estimado

[worldly gull]

Bro @ornate zenith remove that reaction Bru. What are you confused about

[ornate zenith]

Days ago btw

[worldly gull]

And I saw it now

[ornate zenith]

I don't remember why I put it there but it's probably important

[worldly gull]

Bru

[hoary iris]

Better late than never

[worldly gull]

Better late than later.

[hoary iris]

Uuuhh yeh

[timid sundial]

I made this shitty reversed fool but omg I need reversed tarots so bad

[warm nexus]

huh?
I am genuinely confused.
Why would reverse tarot cards need their own graphics? Just flip the original ones upside down, that's the whole reason why "reverse tarot cards" are a thing

[delicate niche]

Can I see more reversed tarots you made

[timid sundial]

there's nothing

[timid sundial]

idk I thought it would be cool

[fathom harness]

I mean that a good idea for a mod but most of those cards make something spectral pack already do I am mixed with this Idea

[warm nexus]

some people, when using tarot cards for divination or something, interpret a card differently, when it is drawn upside down. So the whole point is that it's the same card but just upside down.
I mean, if you want to design tarot cards, just make new designs completely.
But if you want them to be "reversed", you just flip them like so:

[timid sundial]

no shit

🤯

[fathom harness]

Revese the pixel value like negative card

Maybe ?

[timid sundial]

perkeo

🤔🤔

[warm nexus]

now that's a unique and interesting idea

[timid sundial]

I think they could get their own edition, but that would make them not compatible with perkeo that's why I thought about the different sprites

also cuz it's fun making cards

[warm nexus]

but I guess it gets in the way of how perkeo can actually create negative tarot cards

[fathom harness]

Something like that

[timid sundial]

🤔

smart

[fathom harness]

Because the negative have just value changed

There there is the color too

[timid sundial]

I really thought negative had inverse colors

[fathom harness]

No but it weird

jimbo look like that in real negatives

[timid sundial]

ooh

[warm nexus]

I guess you could also mirror them, to make it more distinct

[fathom harness]

Yeah it kind of work better

[umbral bronze]

just realized reverse fool could make copies of reverse tarot cards and spectral cards (soul and black hole excluded, of course)