Rather than immediately rerolling the boss, it instead allows you to reroll a boss for free similarly to Director’s Cut. You’d be able to hoard a Boss Reroll tag until you really need it then
#Boss Reroll tag rework
light mica
true carbon
Would you just click the tag to use?
I assume it only would work during the blind selection screen.
light mica
I think it’d be the same button that director’s cut has, it holds onto the tag in your inventory until you use it
ember crater
absolutely
placid goblet
would it still count as your director's cut reroll
light mica
Hell naw
radiant bloom
if you have DC and Boss Tag i'd want two buttons to decide what to spend
radiant bloom
I'd just like the option (even though 99% of the time, spending the tag is a better choice)
true carbon
I'm not sure why it's 99% and not 100%
radiant bloom
There could be some niche synergy with smth like Vagabond
light mica
Ehhhh sure? Seems kinda complicated for an option you’d nearly never do
balmy leaf
This would also make Double Tagging Reroll Tags actually worth it
runic ridge
This would also make Double Tagging Reroll Tags actually worth it
You know that if you track your boss blinds, you might see that EVERY available boss kills you, and then you want to reroll until the pool refreshes(and maybe a little more if you're unlucky enough for a early reapeted boss)
scenic sinew
as much as I'd like it because it makes the game easier overall I think it doesn't fit the game. This would be the only tag people would always go for, compared to the other tags that are more of a niche thing and not generally good.
It would also make all other options to disable or reroll the boss blind (as well as other tags) way more insignificant.
light mica
Is having a reason to skip necessarily a bad thing though? It feels wrong that everyone ignores skips entirely (besides investment ante 1/2) and the occasional rare skip at the end of runs
I don’t see how this makes other tags insignificant, at least more than they currently are now. There’s still the same number of tags, you just so happen to want to actually take one now - it’s not some mutually exclusive thing where you can only skip once a run
scenic sinew
the skip as it is now has its own niche of being a clutch way out.
your change would make this skip something people would rarely pass up on.
it just makes it drastically more useful compared to the other tags. and that's unfair from a balance standpoint. it doesn't feel vanilla unless you change how every other tag works
true carbon
I've implemented this in my mod, but I'm still hunting down a few bugs.
true carbon
This should be done. If you find a bug that I missed can you let me know? https://github.com/OmnipotentEntity/DiscordVanilla
true carbon
scenic sinew
If you go that far, might as well make all other tags be used not automatically but manually as well.
true carbon
This isn't a small patch despite how it might look. This actually took quite a bit of work to implement.
Moreover, there are some tags that would be far too overpowered to manually apply. Negative for instance. Boss Tag becomes the best tag with this, sure, but I actually think it's not an automatic take. You're given 2 blinds between bosses because it allows you to plan and generate counterplay, and you almost never need to actually hunt for a Luch or something, and skipping is still a big deal.
I implemented this specifically because Katie suggested another joker that generates random tags, and if it generated a boss tag on a large blind then you'd be left at the mercy of RNG with 0 opportunities for counterplay. And I also wanted to add that joker.
true carbon
However, now that I have the scaffolding in place, further conversions should be much easier.
So if there are specific tags that should be able to be held, (useful but not game breaking) let me know. 🙂
true carbon
Honestly, I think the voucher disappearing behavior in shops should just be fixed.
Voucher Tag gives you an additional voucher in the shop that lasts until the end of the ante should be a sufficient buff.
light mica
This isn't a small patch despite how it might look. This actually took quite a b...
Yeah I agree, I for sure wouldn’t take this in the first 4 antes at least. It might be nice to hold onto once your build is set, but it’s far from an insta take
elfin bridge
Voucher Tag gives you an additional voucher in the shop that lasts until the end...
Id make it 3 rounds opposed to the ante.. that means 1 or 3 rounds. You either skip BB and see it shop 1 of ante, or skip SB and have this last 1 shop, which IMO isn't much of a buff
true carbon
Skip BB, you have the entire next ante.
elfin bridge
Skip BB, you have the entire next ante.
I was in the middle of correcting myself LOL
true carbon
well, again, the idea behind this patch is there's a joker suggestion that gives you tags during blinds, that I wanted to implement, so this would also buff that: https://discord.com/channels/1116389027176787968/1395588416892305518
and end of the ante is when the other vouchers go away, so it makes sense
elfin bridge
My point is that it's a bad buff thats largely situational