x5 mult, loses x1.5 mult if played hand exceeds score requirement
(note: goes from x5, down to x3.5, then x2, then [Eaten!])
#Gloucester (Uncommon) $7
woven mist
elfin barn
If you get this with any good build it's gonna die fast.
On the other side if You're baraly making it this is just broken.
I'mma get you back for all the times you came after me.
woven mist
The point is that it stabilizes after a couple rounds
You don't take it if you're already winning, you take it when you need something extra
elfin barn
No don't get it twisted. I like the idea. It's just that I wanted an exuse to NOPE you
woven mist
nope-ing out of spite... truly one of the moves ever
elfin barn
Ha get NOPED
hollow spruce
This is not rare worthy at all
dark bane
It doesn't really matter what you score, it will expire in 5 rounds no?
Unless you can somehow align the stars to consistently score the exact base blind score
Oh I think I misunderstood
plucky leaf
I think it means if the hand would oneshot
stable oxide
Interesting way to avoid the winmore comments...
I'd make It downscale by 1.5x to make such a powerful effect a bit more punishing tho
woven mist
I'd make It downscale by 1.5x to make such a powerful effect a bit more punishin...
From 5 to 3.5, then 2, then [Eaten!], in that case
Makes sense tbh
I just wanted to try designing a rare food item (considering that, as written, this would usually level out at 3x [which matches Driver's License])
But at 1.5x loss I could see it as an uncommon
Gloucester (Uncommon) $7
stable oxide
I think the effect is free enough to have It be rare
carmine junco
This feels like an instant win if you’re doing terribly, should probably be rare and nerfed
woven mist
tbh
If there's a lot of suggestions regarding balance that push it in several different directions, then maybe the idea's just flawed
stable oxide
If there's a lot of suggestions regarding balance that push it in several differ...
or perhaps with some playtesting we can get a feel for the joker and then balancing becomes obvious
still totem
So what I see is it's not great in white stake and absolutely game saving in gold stake. And I don't like how swingy it is. I think leave it as uncommon but lower it to like 2.5 and -0.5
woven mist
Perhaps
still totem
or perhaps with some playtesting we can get a feel for the joker and then balanc...
But I do think this is the best suggestion to figure out where to put it.
carmine junco
I could see this being like a food joker where it has x mult and naturally decays, maybe even faster if you’re scoring over the requirement
still totem
I could see this being like a food joker where it has x mult and naturally decay...
I like this type of suggestion so it isn't carried all through a gold stake run.
woven mist
The idea was that it allows you to "cheese" scoring for a round or two (since gloucester is a type of cheese), and stabilizes to a normal amount
carmine junco
Maybe something like 3x mult, -0.25x mult per hand played, -0.5x if hand exceeds blind requirements
woven mist
Maybe? Would be worse than Ramen though
still totem
Ramen you're giving up a major tool to keep it up effectively.
woven mist
idk it just seems really hard to balance a decaying xmult effect
carmine junco
Ramen could theoretically be held if you don’t discard, this joker really just gives you time to try and figure something out
still totem
Honestly it feels like a similar position to Acrobat but more flexible.
woven mist
Ramen could theoretically be held if you don’t discard, this joker really just g...
In that case... it could stay an uncommon
carmine junco
Yeah, I’d say that it’s a less conditional seltzer
woven mist
Though the decaying xmult uncommon niche is already filled
still totem
So that's why I like the 2.5x start.
carmine junco
Yeah it could also be 2.5
still totem
Though the decaying xmult uncommon niche is already filled
Yeah but it's interesting to think about
carmine junco
I don’t think it’s wrong to make a second decaying x mult joker
still totem
No theres an important difference one you're giving up a resource to get. I think if this slowly decays with a larger leap if you fail x requirement is engaging
carmine junco
There’s lots of jokers that do the same thing but have different conditions
woven mist
I mean
still totem
It's a little mini game
woven mist
We already have decaying chips, decaying +mult, decaying xmult, and decaying retriggers
carmine junco
Actually here’s a bit of a curveball you can throw in
woven mist
Really the only thing missing is decaying econ lmao
carmine junco
If this joker were to expire, you could have it spawn a negative perishable joker that weakens you, which either can’t be sold or costs money to sell
Some sort of moldy joker
woven mist
If this joker were to expire, you could have it spawn a negative perishable joke...
That seems more modded territory to me tbh, but sounds interesting
carmine junco
Yeah you’d have to edit the code probably