Description: Hold Jokers in your tarot inventory. These jokers are debuffed whilst there, but may be swapped into your Joker inventory at any time. These Jokers are invincible to Sticker effects.
#Joker: Backpack
warm token
Do they take up slots
sterile warren
Do they take up slots
I assume they would
If this is a rare, it might honestly make sense to make the Jokers still able to trigger
Unless you have Crystal Ball or Backpack is negative, you're really only gaining 1 joker slot from this, and you have to sacrifice slots you could be putting planet/tarot cards in
fiery plover
What if it was a voucher. It would be interesting to replace tarot tycoon with an effect that is weakened by the voucher before it.
vague dew
What happens if you swap backpack into your consumable slots
Id imagine it itself would work, but not allow further backpacking
maiden light
i think this should be a voucher
rather than a joker
still works as a joker though
errant wedge
i like the idea
cedar bough
"You can put jokers into your consumable slots, jokers in your consumable slots won't trigger their effects"
that's how It works right?
errant wedge
i assume
spring galleon
so i can build up hands for obelisk?
sonic seal
so i can build up hands for obelisk?
Good point, do resets or degradation of consumable or perishable Jokers still happen?
spring galleon
Good point, do resets or degradation of consumable or perishable Jokers still ha...
oo thats a really good question
i would think no, no ice cream, pop corn or invisible
in my opinion
sonic seal
Would mega buff Hit the Road, Ride the Bus, and Obelisk, but it's balanced by not being able to use them on the winning hand, kinda.
spring galleon
Would mega buff Hit the Road, Ride the Bus, and Obelisk, but it's balanced by no...
hit the road would be better than yorick then (besides the winning hand part and using 2 joker slots)
despretly needs it though
open torrent
Merry Andy would be amazing with this
Use up all the discards, then stow it away to get your hand size back
Also if it prevents resets and such, that makes Bean one of the best synergies with this joker
sonic seal
Troubadour as well.
vague dew
Define triggering is my question
open torrent
(gaining hand size makes you draw extra cards)
vague dew
Does a Joker resetting count as triggering?
open torrent
I'd personally reword it to where they're just debuffed while in consumable slots
vague dew
I'd personally reword it to where they're just debuffed while in consumable slot...
But what about my infinite hit the road 😞
sonic seal
Could be critical with C++, just stuff anything you haven't completed in your inventory until the last hand. Unless backpacked Jokers get Gold Sealed as well?
vague dew
Discard all my jacks, put it to backpack
vague dew
Could be critical with C++, just stuff anything you haven't completed in your in...
Idk, I feel like since they aren't in your jokwr slots they shouldn't count
open torrent
I'd personally reword it to where they're just debuffed while in consumable slot...
(prevents funky baseball card shenanigans, for instance)
sonic seal
Discard all my jacks, put it to backpack
Debuffs would count in C++ though?
vague dew
Debuffs would count in C++ though?
I feel like it's more about being in the joker slot that matters
Debuffed jokers count for completion yes
But why should inactive jokers that aren't in your actual roster, is my thought
open torrent
Another use case is scaling Obelisk with a high card buffer
sonic seal
You could still scale Hit the Road, but if you win the hand while it's still active, its back to base.
open torrent
Another use case is scaling Obelisk with a high card buffer
So if you're ever forced into using high card as a discard you can just stow it away for the time
sonic seal
Same with Ride the Bus, better than a Discard, but not by much.
open torrent
You could still scale Hit the Road, but if you win the hand while it's still act...
This would actually be pretty great in a gold stake run ngl
Build up HtR while swapping out for a flat xMult
gear up to one-shot vessel
sonic seal
Is it better than Mr. Bones in that case?
sonic seal
Thinking about it, it could be really good with Madness, Hex or Ankh as well to protect something else.
Especially if backpacking backpack is allowed.
ruby coral
What if it was a voucher. It would be interesting to replace tarot tycoon with a...
Replace omen glove instead
sand radish
Perkeo + Blueprint
sand radish
(I know that Perkeo specifies a consumable, but it's implemented to copy any card in the consumables, not just consumables type cards.)
warm token
(I know that Perkeo specifies a consumable, but it's implemented to copy any car...
bro i came here to say this
but if perkeo does work then. copy the blueprint use that one to copy two blueprints and, so and so on.
until you have like 20-50 N.blueprints, then copy some ohter shit
warm token
VEIR Would have a video like: "getting NANEINF with 1 steel card" and then he gets like 1000 blueprints
sand radish
Step 1: collections -> press 3 on Blueprint and Perkeo to spawn them in as Jokers, put Blueprint on the left
Step 2: use the console to run eval G.consumeables.cards[1] = copy_card(G.jokers.cards[1])
Step 3: beat the blind, go to the shop, exit shop
Step 4: observe you now have 2 new negative blueprints in your consumables.
supple vector
does combining this with perkeo create a negative joker printer?
errant wedge
does combining this with perkeo create a negative joker printer?
I think everyone upvoted this under the implication that it doesn't
sand radish
Right, it would be insane if this behavior were allowed, given that it's exponential. Just any implementation would need to also patch Perkeo.
fossil vault
I rephrased
sand radish
Description: Hold Jokers in your tarot inventory. These jokers are debuffed whil...
What are "sticker effects"? If you finish the run with Jokers in your consumables they don't get a sticker?
fickle violet
It probably means perishable won’t decay when it’s held
sand radish
Ah, no perishable, no rental. Gotcha
warm token
What about eternal
sonic seal
Should probably just leave them at debuffed or specify perishable or rental, because selling out Eternals would probably be too op?
warm token
Plus this breaks knifes edge.
(it could just be banned)
cedar bough
Stickers still take effect on debuffed jokers, idk what the confusion is abt
clear karma
this would have a lot of applications
upbeat delta
Would this let perkeo duplicate jokers if they're in your consumable slots?
sand radish
Would this let perkeo duplicate jokers if they're in your consumable slots?
I brought this up previously. The answer is "Yes, if Perkeo's code isn't modified. So anyone who is implementing this joker needs to modify Perkeo as well."
upbeat delta
oh mb, didn't see that sorry
fickle violet
Doesn’t Perkeo only say it copies consumables, and jokers are not consumables
sand radish
It says it only copies consumables. It actually copies any card.
It's just that normally only consumables make it to that area.
fickle violet
I’d assume if this was added it’d be updated to fit the description